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Compatibility Mods :: Steam on Windows 7/8/8.1, in 2025! (WORKS) :: Author Dimitris Balafoutis

2025-09-01T13:54:35+00:00

HOW TO GET STEAM WORKING ON Windows 7/8/8.1

-Install the latest version of Steam.
-Let Steam Update.
-Add to its desktop shortcut's target "-no-cef-sandbox"
-Delete tier0_s.dll and tier0_s64.dll from Steam's directory (C:\Program Files(x86)\Steam)
-Let it update again.
-DONE!!! Steam should prompt you to login now and should work normally like in Windows 10/11.

Compatibility Mods :: Prism Launcher 8.3 on Windows 7 [Updated] :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-09-02T00:47:47+00:00

Prism 9.4 for Windows 7/8/8.1, with anti-piracy stuff removed too: Setup | Portable

Research Network :: Program that back or forward ports functionality between Windows versions :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-08-11T13:24:55+00:00

Another thing, on Windows 8+ with OldNewExplorer, on the details pane, there's a connected via USB x.x text for USB drives. I would like to have this in 7 and earlier.

Also using 7 instead of 8.1 for a while, I'm really missing dragging and dropping to explorer breadcrumbs.

I also forgot to mention, but the go up button for Vista/7. (This is implemented already by the Classic Explorer part of Classic/Open Shell, so I have been able to use it and I forgot to mention it here)

General Software & Hardware :: Wi-Fi and Bluetooth cards for Vista/XP x64? :: Reply by Peacock

2025-08-14T14:04:19+00:00

Any newer Wi-Fi PCI-E for Windows 7?
And are there any Wi-Fi 7 cards that can run in windows 7?

General Software & Hardware :: Wi-Fi and Bluetooth cards for Vista/XP x64? :: Reply by Peacock

2025-08-15T14:22:00+00:00

Peacock wrote: ↑14 Aug 2025, 14:04 Any newer Wi-Fi PCI-E for Windows 7?
And are there any Wi-Fi 7 cards that can run in windows 7?

So far Wi-Fi 7 is said to be windows 11 only, sadly.
But also is there any Wi-Fi 6/6e (802.11ax) that works in windows 7?

Browsers :: uBlockOrigin Lists :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-17T14:55:20+00:00

BadBlock
BadBlock is a collection of comprehensive blocklists covering a variety of different services, applications, & platforms with the goal of blocking, as the name suggests, stuff that is bad.
BadBlock is NOT a compilation of other blocklists from various sources. You should NOT rely on BadBlock as your only blocklist.
https://codeberg.org/celenity/BadBlock

Browsers :: uBlockOrigin Lists :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-08-17T17:46:38+00:00

Do you know if there are blocklists covering large scripts that hang on occasion?
My video streaming (Comcast/Xfinity) will encounter one of those at least once a day.
Have to click randomly on a "dead" page until a "hung script" dialog pops up asking to reload the page.

Browsers :: uBlockOrigin Lists :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-18T00:03:37+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑17 Aug 2025, 17:46 until a "hung script" dialog pops up asking to reload the page.

That only happens to me on some occasions when I keep the Network tab of the Developer Tools (Ctrl+Shift+E) open when loading some sites.
Not sure if it's because of the blocking lists or the Network tab being overloaded.

Browsers :: uBlockOrigin Lists :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-08-18T17:13:12+00:00

I did the below blocks in uBlock and so far have not had a hung script.
Strictly "guessing" and one of the loaded scripts was just over NINE HUNDRED MEGABYTES.
Everything is working WITHOUT these scripts, so "fingers crossed".

||analytics.xcal.tv/comcast/v3/player$xhr,domain=www.xfinity.com
||collector.pabs.comcast.com/stream/prod/*$xhr,domain=www.xfinity.com
||www.gstatic.com/eureka/clank/*/cast_sender.js^$document
||www.gstatic.com/cast/sdk/libs/sender/1.0/cast_framework.js^$document
||www.gstatic.com/cv/js/sender/v1/cast_sender.js?loadCastFramework=1^$document
||www.xfinity.com/xsfC6x9Cr/eqy85C3WZ/dynly/2MyI/1XaSNDzb9hQ2fDOE/Z0xzNEUp/amE3IB5/tLWcB^$document
||xtvapi.cloudtv.comcast.net/inhome-restrictions/*$xhr,domain=www.xfinity.com
||xtvapi.cloudtv.comcast.net/tve/stream/linear/heartbeat/*$xhr,domain=www.xfinity.com
||assets.adobedtm.com^$document
||cdn.cookielaw.org^$document
||geolocation.onetrust.com^$document
||static.cimcontent.net^$document

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-19T12:42:14+00:00

Firefox 115.27 ESR released:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.27.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.27.0/releasenotes/

Maybe the last one ? We should know soon.

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

2025-09-06T13:16:44+00:00

Good news:

Firefox ESR 115 will continue to receive security updates on Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 until March 2026.

https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2025/09/04/firefox-esr-115-support-for-windows-7-8-and-8-1-and-old-mac-os-versions-extended-until-march-2026/

Mobile Devices :: Community Projects to improve Symbian 3rd-5th edition usability :: Author Nokiamies

2025-08-24T14:30:10+00:00

There has been some projects in recent years that improve usability of Symbian 3rd-5th edition for everyday purposes. I got one E90 which I use as PDA while on road if I need check email or other and do not wish carry or dig up my IBM Thinkpad. You can have TLS 1.2 support with nnproject TLS 1.2 patch. Patch also bundles Nokia official SHA2 certificate support meant for Symbian Belle, so under S60 3rd you no longer have to manually copy files over for it. TLS 1.2 is god for accessing websites requiring SSL and also for connecting email server using IMAP or POP. Email is one of few things where I think encryption is important as you are transferring credentials.

There is also updated Putty with up to date ciphers from nnproject. It permits connecting into SSH hosts. I like use it for port forwarding. It is bit unstable and may quit randomly but it is better than nothing.

Mobile Devices :: Community Projects to improve Symbian 3rd-5th edition usability :: Reply by TSNH

2025-08-31T17:15:33+00:00

Which email client do you use? The builtin one?

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Author The-10-Pen

2025-08-11T10:28:47+00:00

I'm curious of everyone else's PERFORMANCE.
Win11 has become a very tough nut to crack (compared to XP, 7, and 10).
So far, this is where I'm at (just after startup, base OS, no additional apps installed).
Up time is misleading as it was "hibernating" over night.

Observations - "Normal" install had over 140 processes running, roughly the same memory, but idled along at between 4% and 12%!
Goal - at IDLE setup should be 0% to 1%, no higher, and RAM in my Win10 at idle is only 0.5 GB to 0.7 GB.

Oddity - One of my experiments had Win11 at 1.6 GB to 1.8 GB RAM, but process count was in the 80s.
Had process count all the way down to 54 to 56 but RAM actually increased to 2.9 to 3.1 instead of decreasing.

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Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-08-14T12:57:55+00:00

I've kind of accidentally stumbled into a "Eureka Moment".
I've been focusing on getting all drivers to be recognized in Device Manager.

EUREKA !!!
Linux doesn't have drivers for all of these devices !!!

I'm getting MUCH better performance metrics by INTENTIONALLY *not* loading some of the drivers that Device Manager is asking for.
Maybe I should have known that, lol, but now it's kind of clear as to just "why" some Linux platforms outperform some Windows platforms.
I still maintain that a PROPERLY TWEAKED config of Windows is capable of a LOT more than that can be done from Linux.
But I'm young and still learning, lol.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by TSNH

2025-08-15T16:36:05+00:00

Linux has drivers, but they are mostly part of the kernel so you don't see them,
often however they are maintained by Linux developers, not companies who make hardware

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-08-15T21:02:03+00:00

My two largest drivers are display/graphics drivers.
I'd expect them to be large and I need them in order to use an external bigscreen.

Third largest, and very close to being second largest, is a driver specifically called "AMD AI Neural Processing Unit".
This one had a significant affect on idle RAM and CPU utilization.

I axed it and also axed "HP Support Assist", "HP Power State Notification", "AMD Crash Defender", "AMD Noise Suppression", "AMD Security Accelerator", two "AMD Windows Driver Framework" 'sensors', and two "AMD Power" 'services' and everything seems to be working MUCH FASTER than "with" these drivers.

I haven't ran any real "benchmarks", I'm going by OS-only nothing-installed idle RAM, CPU, threads, handles, and processes.
This is how I always did Win10 2016 but 2016 isn't working on this HP Envy x360 AMD Ryzen 5 laptop.
I am having good success with Win10 21H2 - which is a bit of a godsend that everything is working and I won't have to run Win11.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-09-02T20:30:02+00:00

I start at about 1,8 GB RAM consumption after login on fresh boot on Win11 23H2, about 130 processes. RAM could be lower, but that's including some software I added to startup, AIMP, Alcohol 120%, KeePass, DxWnd, some background stuff; OpenShell, 7+ Taskbar Tweaker, ExplorerPatcher, T-Clock Redux and QTTabBar are all loaded into Explorer, the latter pulls in .NET Framework as well. Link Shell Extension is another shell extension, then there's also TortoiseGit.

1,8 GB tends to climb up to about 2,1 GB on subsequent logins.

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: AM4 boards Windows 7 compatibility list :: Reply by zzxx

2025-09-01T19:02:10+00:00

R9 5950X works with an ASRock X470 Taichi on Windows 7 x64. BIOS is updated to P10.41. I don't have any other AM4 processors to test with, so I can only confirm that this one works. No missing drivers. Sleep works, but one of my monitors disconnect after waking up. I have yet to see if an EDID emulator solves this. Otherwise, everything generally functions to expectations; I have been using this system daily for a little while without any major issues.

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Planning to make a legacy Windows 7 Build... any recommendations? :: Author Dimitris Balafoutis

2025-09-02T08:09:18+00:00

I'm thinking of making a full Windows 7 Build with parts from 2009-2012. Any recommendations?

-x64 capable Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Extreme,1st gen i7/i9, midrange Xeon or AM3/AM3+ FX CPU
-A compatible motherboard supporting SATA, Floppy Disk Drives, and PCI/PCIe
-Gigabyte GTX 650 1GB OC or other GTX/Radeon R9 Card
-a good CRT Monitor from the 2000's (the games i play look btter and are optimized for CRTs )
-1TB HDD/500GB SSD
-RS232/LPT PCI card
-USB/Firewire hub card(s)
-any card reader that supports SDXC and/or MS Pro Duo
-Blu-Ray Drive (any working one will prob do )
-external (LPT/USB) Zip Drive, maybe an internal one if i have space
-Windows 7 Enterprise x64 (i use it on my thinkpad, its as feature rich but lighter than Ultimate )

Before you go to reply "what about the case" i dont fucking know, ill use whichever i find. i need 4 5'25 inch drive bays and 2-4 3'5 inch ones

Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: NVIDIA driver patcher (up to 475.14 ig) :: Author kast_winvistauser

2025-08-08T18:46:01+00:00

Im gonna to share patcher (it was already leaked but still) that is from win32 patreon
0. Tested will latest EK, but u need ntoskrnl from may 2021
https://mega.nz/file/voZjSZyL#E2_9tyZlEPV8jDIL1QPzEbDujbw2NW2Po8ycwneFL8E
After u made everything ready u need to download these
https://mega.nz/file/W4h0SBiT#cWDiDTTvnLNeKWadIzohzsI4MgJoWiO08V2gph2d-e8
https://mega.nz/file/qwRgxaJK#UmCmGUA6yvNsj6jolJiVz27Zjnyz_qZGn3FGQr-7-gI
1. From winload_ci_patcher.zip u need to launch "setup.cmd" with admin permissions
2. Download NVIDIA driver installer (i had used 472.12, but u can use other one), repack it on any folder
3. Patch nv_dispi.inf: change all NTamd64.6.1 to NTamd64.6.0, then save file
4. Install driver with "Have disk", but dont reboot
5. From nvidia_driver_patcher_vista.zip run "elevate.cmd" with admin permissions
6. Reboot
7. From nvidia_driver_patcher_vista.zip run "nvidia_patcher.cmd" with admin permissions
8. Reboot
After to do all steps, driver should works
P.S. maybe u dont need to make 2 reboots by running nvidia_patcher.cmd before rebooting, didnt tested

Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: NVIDIA driver patcher (up to 475.14 ig) :: Reply by TSNH

2025-08-10T12:43:13+00:00

If this needs original ntoskrnl from may2021, then how does it even work with extended kernel?

At best win7+ programs that use extended kernel functions in ntoskrnl won't work and at worst also others because other extended kernel dlls like kernel32 or ntdll could need extended functions in ntoskrnl (idk if they do but they very well may).

is it possible to use this 2021 ntoskrnl version the same way as ntoskrn8 is used ie. having a different name and setting it by editing files with CFF explorer?

OFFTOPIC:
The funny thing is, I came across this leak before even knowing this thing existed.
There was no announcement on MSFN or Legacydev boards and even discussion about this breakthrough at all

Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: NVIDIA driver patcher (up to 475.14 ig) :: Reply by chobocoda

2025-08-11T13:27:27+00:00

Can confirm that it works perfectly on my install (no Extended Kernel as per instructions), using RTX 3060 with 474.44 drivers. I'd recommend supporting win32 on Patreon, despite this leak, because of how amazing their work is anyways. =)

Unfortunately, Vulkan does not work (and of course, no DX12) so I can't really showcase any proper RTX software. But, 3D acceleration works and Aero works beautifully. And of course, 4K @ 240Hz.

Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: NVIDIA driver patcher (up to 475.14 ig) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-08-11T17:09:42+00:00

Nuthin' but a "G" Thang

Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: NVIDIA driver patcher (up to 475.14 ig) :: Reply by TSNH

2025-08-14T14:21:55+00:00

I reached out to win32 on patreon and he said that the extended kernel ntoskrnl.exe is not actually needed for anything except those old modified NVIDIA drivers so it's all good

Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: NVIDIA driver patcher (up to 475.14 ig) :: Reply by TSNH

2025-08-15T12:31:21+00:00

chobocoda wrote: ↑11 Aug 2025, 13:27 Can confirm that it works

Is NVIDIA control panel working for you?

Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: NVIDIA driver patcher (up to 475.14 ig) :: Reply by chobocoda

2025-08-16T06:29:29+00:00

TSNH wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 12:31
Is NVIDIA control panel working for you?

No. I was unable to install it through the normal NVIDIA setup program (came up with “unknown” errors), and had to manually install it through Device Manager. That being said, using older driver versions may work better in this regard, but I haven’t experimented with that yet.

Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: NVIDIA driver patcher (up to 475.14 ig) :: Reply by TSNH

2025-08-16T10:45:22+00:00

chobocoda wrote: ↑16 Aug 2025, 06:29
TSNH wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 12:31
Is NVIDIA control panel working for you?
No. I was unable to install it through the normal NVIDIA setup program (came up with “unknown” errors), and had to manually install it through Device Manager. That being said, using older driver versions may work better in this regard, but I haven’t experimented with that yet.

I was experimenting with installing older drivers through setup and 474.30 on top with device manager. To install older drivers you need to add your RTX30 series gpu to an old inf (can be done easier with NVCleaninstall)

I wasn't able to launch setups of versions 417.35 and newer, an older one I had lying around was 391.35 (this one hangs on boot) so I went for 385.12 next (and than installed 474.30 with the patcher on top),

And with this setup I got NVIDIA container service and control panel working however nvidia contol panel only displays one completely irrelevant option about laptop power saving and none of the good stuff

Windows XP & Server 2003 :: Windows Vista snipping tool and Inkball on Windows XP :: Author Nokiamies

2025-08-22T22:21:50+00:00

I did not find any topics about this so though might as well write one.

It is possible to run certain Vista applications under XP using Alky for Applications http://www.alkyforapplications.net/

There is little to no documentation what you need to do to get it working so here is how:

For Prerequisites you need to install Windows Journal Viewer 1.5 which you may download from http://nokiamies.net/files/sw/journal.exe

Install Alky. During install it asks for vista install media and key. I recommend giving it as some programs wont work without valid licence. Key only need to be valid, not whitelisted. For sources folder you do not need whole install, just pidgenx.dll and pkeyconfig.xrm-ms from Windows Vista install media. After this install you need reboot system.

After that you need to get Vista files. If you do not have Vista installed but got either 32bit Home Premium or Ultimate install media you can open install.wim with 7-zip and browse around folders. You should find inkball on program files\microsoft games\inkball folder.
For snipping tool you need one from Windows Vista Beta 2 as one from RTM will fail with error message even after patching. It is located on system32\snippingtool.exe.

You will also need copy over MUI resources. Depending on your language it is short version of it. For example American English is EN-US and Finnish is FI-FI. MUI resource is named .exe.mui. Place it on language specific folder along with executable.
Next right click and select patch and run.

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Now the program should run just fine. Make sure you keep manifest file along with executable. This is not working for all executable as some will rely on dependencies not available on XP.

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Windows 9x and older :: Using Intel Application Accelerator under Windows 98SE/ME for LBA48 support on i8xx chipset :: Author Nokiamies

2025-08-17T19:07:13+00:00

Hello everybody

Here is my experience with Intel Application Accelerator under Windows 9x. It is Intel utility originally meant to enable DMA transfers, but latest 2.3 build also enables software level LBA48 support under supported Intel Chipsets. It is very useful if you got some OEM machine like some Compaq presarios that cannot boot from external controller card or you do not wish to buy controller card. First of all make sure your motherboard chipset supports it. Following chipset are supported according to Readme:

1. The system must contain the following Intel products:

* Intel(R) Pentium(R) III or Pentium(R) 4 processor
* Intel(R) 82801AA, 82801AB, 82801BA or 82801DB
controller

even if motherboard does not support LBA48 and is restricted to 137gb barrier IAA allows use of larger hard drives.

If you got i810 or other chipset without hardware LBA48 support I highly recommending partitioning hard drive normally under Windows 9x boot disk using Fdisk so bootable space is below 137gb barrier. After you have installed 98SE or Windows ME. You should install IAA 2.3. Here is copy of it installer which is bit tricky to find these days. After this DO NOT extend your boot partition beyond 137gb barrier as in case of Windows hosing up and needing use boot disk it may result data corruption. Create second partition for remaining space.

Here you can see screenshot of IAA recognizing 320gb WD IDE hard drive with full capacity under Windows Millenium Edition running on i810 chipset

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Windows Betas :: Programs working under Windows Codename Whistler 2267 :: Author Nokiamies

2025-08-24T13:51:41+00:00

I have been messing with Windows Codename Whislter Build 2267 and been trying get it for 9x level program wise which i consider usable for most of my daily tasks and entertainment use. Why I like that build is since it got watercolor theme. Now running programs with it you will likely crash one or two errors. First one is this:

binding.jpg

if picture does not show error says "Windows was not able to process the application binding information. Please refer to your System Event Log for further information". This error cause is simple. Going from Whistler into XP final application manifest format has changed. Now many programs got one for XP and they will fail with that error. Workaround for the problem is simple luckily. All you need to do is create file called .exe.manifest into folder and add following with notepad:

For example if program is Retrozilla.exe you need create file called retrozilla.exe.manifest. Next problem you may encounter when launching program with watercolor theme on is this:

crash.jpg

If you can launch program without crash when watercolor theme is off it is caused by program calling uxtheme.dll which lacks some calls which Windows XP has. Workaround for this is find which file calls for it and using hex-editor change name inside file to uxthemm.dll. If you just erase it you may corrupt program.

Now here is list of programs I tested so far. Please note that I am using real hardware (Compaq Presario 5112EA, Celeron 850mhz, 256mb ram, Nvidia TNT Vanta 16mb, SB Live!) so I do not have juice to test most heavy programs. Best HW for Whislter is one that is supported under Windows 2000 RTM.

Retrozilla 2.3: Requires manifest file for retrozilla.exe and also rename mention of uxtheme.dll inside components\gkgfxwin.dll using hexeditor. Works well for browsing around internet and writing emails using IMAP.

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Pidgin 2.6.6: Requires manifest file and also legacy GTK runtime v2.6.10. Using one for 2000/XP will result crash. Good client for XMPP under legacy system.

Putty 0.83: Requires manifest file but runs fine after that. Best SSH client for Windows period.

Winamp 2.95: installs and works OOBE. Good for playing MP3 files, you know that thing people used to do before it was fashionable to use streaming services. I still listen my music from local MP3 files.

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Irfanview 3.35: installs and works OOBE. Best image viewer for older systems. Includes lot of features.

Flash Player 8 standalone: Works oobe. Good for viewing flash files locally

TCPMP MOD: Requires manifest file. Good and lightweight video player for playing back videos.

tcpmp.jpg

If you gotten any other program run under Whistler, please post it below along with possible tweaks

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Windows Betas :: Programs working under Windows Codename Whistler 2267 :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-08-24T15:15:00+00:00

Nokiamies wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 13:51 I still listen my music from local MP3 files.

Me too!
That's the ONLY thing I listen to in the car!
OEM radio has a USB input and I swap between eight flash drives I keep in the car.
I *NEVER* have to listen to radio COMMERCIALS!

I've been doing that for about a decade now.
Ever since mom and dad retired to just over 300 miles (almost 500 kilometers) away and half that distance has nothing available but COUNTRY MUSIC.

I hate hate hate HATE HATE HATE country music !!!

Windows Betas :: Programs working under Windows Codename Whistler 2267 :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-24T20:21:16+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 15:15 nothing available but COUNTRY MUSIC.

LOL I pity you!

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 15:15 I hate hate hate HATE HATE HATE country music !!!

So do I!

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by TSNH

2025-09-02T10:24:00+00:00

UCyborg wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025, 19:34 The spreadsheet uses bit manipulation functions unknown to Excel 2007. Like, bruh, it's 2025, upgrade that old shit. Things like that are just waste of everyone's time.

This means that the docx file created by a newer Office version was not compatible with the docx standard which was defined with 2007.

If Microsoft wants to make a new standard they by definition should create a new one like docy, this however is probably unnecessary as it hasn't changed so much since

So an ideal solution would be to include something like a polyfill in the new format file to allow it to run under Office 2007 or at the very least provide a warning to the user that this particular feature in not supported on this version of Office and may not work correctly.

You can't expect casual people to differentiate one docx file from another (often they don't even know which version of Office hey have). Microsoft has traditionally been very good about backwards compatibility and introducing incompatibilities like this one will likely put them (or your team in this case in a bad light)

Backwards compatibility has been one of the key advantages and one of the main success reasons of Windows vs Linux, cause only tech-savvy people can keep up with which new version they should be running to stay compatible with some docx.
And there are even some who deliberately don't

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-19T12:45:21+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025, 15:26 So current 140 and 141 will likely just be a basic upgrade with no other major changes.

Hope it will be the same for v142 because we never saw R3dfox v141 (yet ?)

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-08-19T22:46:58+00:00

Yeah, I just haven't been feeling it. I'd have to migrate to another repo because Mozilla made a new Firefox repo on GitHub. I don't know when I will get around to it.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-08-19T23:58:31+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 22:46 Yeah, I just haven't been feeling it. I'd have to migrate to another repo because Mozilla made a new Firefox repo on GitHub. I don't know when I will get around to it.

Is that the same for ESR K4Sum1? No pressure; I'm just curious.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

2025-08-20T00:47:29+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 23:58
K4sum1 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 22:46 Yeah, I just haven't been feeling it. I'd have to migrate to another repo because Mozilla made a new Firefox repo on GitHub. I don't know when I will get around to it.
Is that the same for ESR K4Sum1?

If you're referring to the change of repos, I'm afraid it is:

https://github.com/mozilla-firefox/firefox/tree/esr140

(previously hosted on https://hg-edge.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr140/ ?)

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Mozilla-uses-Microsoft-GitHub-as-the-official-home-for-Firefox-source-code-10384645.html

https://devclass.com/2025/05/14/mozilla-quietly-makes-microsofts-github-the-authoritative-home-for-firefox-code/

GitHub, of course, is owned by Microsoft ...

Probably related, several other Firefox-specific resources also recently changed URLs, e.g.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/140.2.0/releasenotes/ =>

https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/140.2.0/releasenotes/

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-08-20T22:48:17+00:00

Hope all is well; k4.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by PantelicGR

2025-08-25T16:26:49+00:00

Greetings.
The new repo of r3dfox is:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox-new

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-25T21:32:37+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 22:46 Yeah, I just haven't been feeling it.
I don't know when I will get around to it.

Just do things. Believe me it's the best way for feeling better.
Doing round circles just leads you to do more round circles and again etc etc... Vicious circle.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-08-25T23:45:08+00:00

PantelicGR wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025, 16:26 Greetings.
The new repo of r3dfox is:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox-new

No downloadable assets though yet, is that correct, or am I missing it? I can totally ignore the old page, correct?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by PantelicGR

2025-08-26T17:36:51+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025, 23:45 No downloadable assets though yet, is that correct, or am I missing it?

Yes, it's just a new repo with no downloadable releases yet.

JodyThornton wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025, 23:45 I can totally ignore the old page, correct?

I don't know about that. I'm following both new and old r3dfox repo just to be sure to notice the new changes and releases.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-08-26T20:16:49+00:00

PantelicGR wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 17:36
JodyThornton wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025, 23:45 I can totally ignore the old page, correct?
I don't know about that. I'm following both new and old r3dfox repo just to be sure to notice the new changes and releases.

Same here. Trying to be patient

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-08-27T10:32:32+00:00

PantelicGR wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025, 17:36
JodyThornton wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025, 23:45 I can totally ignore the old page, correct?
I don't know about that. I'm following both new and old r3dfox repo just to be sure to notice the new changes and releases.

Well that's interesting. The old page must be gone, because the new page now just switches to the old URL.

The only thing is, all of the open issues will now be gone ... lol

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by PantelicGR

2025-08-27T16:04:43+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 10:32 Well that's interesting. The old page must be gone, because the new page now just switches to the old URL.
The only thing is, all of the open issues will now be gone ... lol

The new repo's URL has changed to:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox

And the old repo's URL has changed to:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox-old

So, nothing is lost for now.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

2025-08-27T16:26:10+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 10:32 The old page must be gone, because the new page now just switches to the old URL.

It was announced and explained by the maintainer some 5 days ago, in a low-visibility GitHub comment :

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox-old/issues/317#issuecomment-3215950463

JodyThornton wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025, 10:32 The only thing is, all of the open issues will now be gone...

Yes, if the r3dfox-old repo is to be archived, all open/closed issues in its tracker will become inactive, with no way to comment/edit anymore ... I agree with you that this shouldn't happen...

The ideal solution would be for @K4sum1 to extract the redfox-old repo issue tracker as it currently stands prior to archiving the repo and then insert/merge it with the (new) redfox repo issue tracker; that way, the old tracker will be preserved in the newly created repo...
GitHub provides semi-automated ways for issue tracker extraction and re-introduction to a new repo (by the same owner), but don't ask me about those details ...

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9720718/how-do-i-move-an-issue-on-github-to-another-repo

https://docs.github.com/en/issues/tracking-your-work-with-issues/administering-issues/transferring-an-issue-to-another-repository

https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/9695

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-08-28T13:09:32+00:00

I'm only transferring critical or still relevant issues to the new repo. I'm leaving a lot of the older issues in place in the old repo.

I'm probably not going to fully archive the old repo for a while. I still have for example half done ESR 115 FTP support in the old repo and I don't feel like making a new branch for it and converting everything yet.

New repo is going to be used for new releases from now on.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-28T22:58:30+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025, 13:09 New repo is going to be used for new releases from now on.

R3dfox v141.0.3 is out:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v141.0.3

And also R3dfox v140.2.0 ESR:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v140.2.0

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-08-28T23:20:08+00:00

Oh Yaaaaa! (Cue the Kool Aid Guy!)
Thanks so much K4Sum1

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-29T14:55:24+00:00

I can confirm this bug with R3dfox 141.0.3:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/37

about:confignew is working fine though.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-08-29T15:07:35+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025, 14:55 I can confirm this bug with R3dfox 141.0.3:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/37

about:confignew is working fine though.

What exactly is about:confignew? (as opposed to about:config, I mean)

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-29T16:33:02+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025, 15:07 What exactly is about:confignew? (as opposed to about:config, I mean)

In R3dfox about:config is like the old legacy about:config of Firefox (before v69 I think, maybe v52) showing status and type while about:confignew is the current 'modern' about:config of Firefox.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-08-29T17:31:29+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025, 16:33In R3dfox about:config is like the old legacy about:config of Firefox (before v69 I think, maybe v52) showing status and type while about:confignew is the current 'modern' about:config of Firefox.

Does it matter which one I use to modify prefs?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-29T19:42:24+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025, 17:31 Does it matter which one I use to modify prefs?

Not at all. You can check it yourself by comparing the values in each layout.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-29T22:16:27+00:00

The taskbar bug is back in v141.0.3
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6857#p6857
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6901#p6901

It's working fine in v140.0.4.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-30T09:04:25+00:00

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/38 wrote: I also disabled the screenshot tool because why does the browser need a screenshot tool? You can just screenshot the browser with an external program or the classic print screen key.

The print screen key only captures the visible part, not the entire page.
The built-in tool allows to capture the whole page and also to easily define the part of the page to be saved with some kind of automated selection. It's easy to use and a really handful tool.

Why should I have to use an external tool while the built-in one has everything we need ?
Not to mention all of the tools I've tried have problems to capture the entire page on some sites.
Please restore back this useful feature.

EDIT: I've found a workaround.
First copy the screenshots@mozilla.org.xpi extension from an older version of R3dfox (last one to have it is v137.0.2) or from Firefox to the \r3dfox\core\browser\features folder. Create this destination folder if it doesn't exist yet.
Then in about:config set screenshots.browser.component.enabled to true.
You may need to restart R3dfox.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-30T13:52:16+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025, 14:55 I can confirm this bug with R3dfox 141.0.3:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/37

about:confignew is working fine though.

Fixed in the hotfix version:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v141.0.3-hotfix

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

2025-08-30T21:03:08+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑30 Aug 2025, 09:04 EDIT: I've found a workaround.
First copy the screenshots@mozilla.org.xpi extension from an older version of R3dfox (last one to have it is v137.0.2) or from Firefox to the \r3dfox\core\browser\features folder. Create this destination folder if it doesn't exist yet.
Then in about:config set screenshots.browser.component.enabled to true.
You may need to restart R3dfox.

Greetings and thanks ; I'm still on r3dfox-v140.0.4-win32 portable (on Vista SP2 32-bit), where the native screenshot tool still works fine ; however, it doesn't have a ".\browser\features" directory with the screenshots@mozilla.org.xpi file inside it; so, how is it that v140.0.4 has a working screenshot tool?
Are you sure that just toggling screenshots.browser.component.enabled to true (and restarting the browser) isn't enough in the case of v141.0.x ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-31T09:16:46+00:00

GoodConscience wrote: ↑30 Aug 2025, 21:03 Are you sure that just toggling screenshots.browser.component.enabled to true (and restarting the browser) isn't enough in the case of v141.0.x ?

Looks like you're right, the screenshot feature seems to be now built-in into the browser core and enabling screenshots.browser.component.enabled should be enough.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-09-05T23:39:31+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025, 22:16 The taskbar bug is back in v141.0.3
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6857#p6857
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6901#p6901

It's working fine in v140.0.4.

Annoyance is still there in v142.0.1

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-09-06T00:38:01+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 23:39
Duke wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025, 22:16 The taskbar bug is back in v141.0.3
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6857#p6857
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6901#p6901

It's working fine in v140.0.4.
Annoyance is still there in v142.0.1

https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/issues/78

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-09-06T08:48:17+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 00:38
Duke wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 23:39
Duke wrote: ↑29 Aug 2025, 22:16 The taskbar bug is back in v141.0.3
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6857#p6857
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6901#p6901

It's working fine in v140.0.4.
Annoyance is still there in v142.0.1
https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/issues/78

I see. But I thought you were able to fix it after v137.0.2 ?
Working fine in v136.0.4
Not working in v137.0.2
Working fine in v138.0.5.

If it can help, this workaround is still valid:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6884#p6884

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

2025-09-06T16:09:40+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑30 Aug 2025, 09:04 Please restore back this useful feature.

... The native screenshot tool has been re-enabled by default starting with r3dfox-v142.0.1:

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v142.0.1

r3dfox specific changes on top of the previous v141.0.3 build:

Re-enabled translations and screenshot browser components.

Thanks

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-08-08T22:49:58+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250809-3219d2d-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250809-3219d2d-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250809-3219d2d-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250809-d849524bd-uxp-48ebf49357-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2714 - Implement the Visual Viewport API (a036cfeb69)
- Issue #2714 - Enable the Visual Viewport API by default. (1ffa7569e9)
- Issue #2835 - Follow-up: Guard against import rules with no attached style sheet (2026586ce1)
- Issue #2838 - Use `ToIndex` in `TypedArray` CTORs (c07ea665ea)
- Issue #2838 - Update tests (fcc58bfbba)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- [Basilisk] [Pale-Moon] [SSUAO] update youtube's SSUAO (5a01efea53)
- layout: CascadeSheet: check aSheet is non-null before use. (a2da19760e)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-08-08T22:50:04+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250809-40a79c75-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250809-40a79c75-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250809-id-656ea98-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250809-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-48ebf49357-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-08-08T22:50:08+00:00

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-08-22T23:02:00+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250823-3219d2d-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250823-3219d2d-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250823-3219d2d-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250823-d849524bd-uxp-e5ea29554a-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2837 - Implement `prefers-reduced-motion` media query. (df3b213459)
- Issue #1899 - Remove MDN docs tooltip and link code from devtools. (842cc60707)
- Issue #1843 - Clean up WindowsVersion.h (7af71cb345)
- Issue #2847 - Extend `-moz-os-version` media query with win11. (723180132d)
- Issue #2258 - Part 1: Support XCTO:nosniff when navigating. (e56e5d6cb1)
- Issue #2258 - Part 2: Move XCTO:nosniff check into sniffers. (cca20ae131)
- Issue #2258 - Part 3: Allow sniffing with XCTO:nosniff + empty MIME type. (707c3e3fa8)
- Issue #2258 - Part 4: Clean up unused pointers. (bd734f795c)
- Bug 1875345 - Report 24 instead of 32 as the colorDepth (and pixelDepth) on Linux (assuming 8 of 32 bits are for the alpha channel). (e3de626c1f)
- Issue #2850 - Alias `:focus-visible` to `:-moz-focusring` (6d47d819fa)
- [gfx] Guard against possible race via gfxFontEntry::GetFontTable. (7cadc57d49)
- [js] Error-check pthread calls (425f38ff84)
- [NSS] Avoid leak in pkcs12 decoder. (fe21538da4)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- nss: update certdata and bump ckbi version to 2.80
- Bug 1974511 - Add SwissSign 2022 Roots to NSS r=jschanck
- Bug 1972391 - Add TrustAsia Dedicated Roots to NSS r=jschanck
- Bug 1961848 - Remove expired Baltimore CyberTrust Root r=jschanck
- Bug 1978677 - remove expired explicitly distrusted DigiNotar lookalike root r=nss-reviewers,jschanck (f5307ea861)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-08-22T23:02:06+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250823-40a79c75-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250823-40a79c75-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250823-id-656ea98-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250823-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-e5ea29554a-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-08-22T23:02:12+00:00

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250823-69d606e5d-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250823-69d606e5d-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- ported from UXP: Issue #2837 - Implement `prefers-reduced-motion` media query. (df3b2134) (796fbddde)
- ported from UXP: Issue #1899 - Remove MDN docs tooltip and link code from devtools. (842cc607) (748599a3f)
- ported from UXP: Issue #1843 - Clean up WindowsVersion.h (7af71cb3) (513b16251)
- import from UXP: Issue #2847 - Extend `-moz-os-version` media query with win11. (72318013) (721e8343a)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2258 - Part 1: Support XCTO:nosniff when navigating. (e56e5d6c) (7c405cfe3)
- import from UXP: Issue #2258 - Part 2: Move XCTO:nosniff check into sniffers. (cca20ae1) (fb7674759)
- import from UXP: Issue #2258 - Part 3: Allow sniffing with XCTO:nosniff + empty MIME type. (707c3e3f) (d1fd2e3b3)
- import from UXP: Issue #2258 - Part 4: Clean up unused pointers. (bd734f79) (a3d299d64)
- import from UXP: Bug 1875345 - Report 24 instead of 32 as the colorDepth (and pixelDepth) on Linux (assuming 8 of 32 bits are for the alpha channel). (e3de626c) (780aa8768)
- import from UXP: Issue #2850 - Alias `:focus-visible` to `:-moz-focusring` (6d47d819) (98b67440c)
- nss: update certdata and bump ckbi version to 2.80
- Bug 1974511 - Add SwissSign 2022 Roots to NSS r=jschanck
- Bug 1972391 - Add TrustAsia Dedicated Roots to NSS r=jschanck
- Bug 1961848 - Remove expired Baltimore CyberTrust Root r=jschanck
- Bug 1978677 - remove expired explicitly distrusted DigiNotar lookalike root r=nss-reviewers,jschanck (9815f4533)
- import from UXP: [gfx] Guard against possible race via gfxFontEntry::GetFontTable. (7cadc57d) (5748e6157)
- import from UXP: [js] Error-check pthread calls (425f38ff) (2bf79a7ff)
- import from UXP: [NSS] Avoid leak in pkcs12 decoder. (fe21538d) (69d606e5d)

Community ISOs :: Windows 7 Updated v5 :: Reply by Peacock

2025-08-14T15:02:19+00:00

For debloat info on windows 7, there was askwoody:
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/which-window-7-updates-should-never-be-installed/
there used to be lists like this back then:
https://www.askwoody.com/2016/a-new-list-of-minimal-updates-for-windows-7/
i can't really find the rest of then now.

Also will there be a ESU Version?

Community ISOs :: Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by TSNH

2025-08-10T11:17:27+00:00

Which NVMe are you going to integrate?, because I've had little to no success with all I tried and I don't know of any actually good one

I've tried George King's and Chinese that came in a pack with USB3 drivers, but they didn't work sadly

My hardware is pretty new - 12th gen Intel

Community ISOs :: Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-08-10T23:29:41+00:00

I've found this driver to work for me. It's the Windows 7 driver in the NVMe update but made to work on Vista. It works stock even.

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Community ISOs :: Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by TSNH

2025-08-14T13:05:17+00:00

What is your hardware? I tried on vmware for now and it didn't work

Community ISOs :: Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-08-14T13:17:53+00:00

VMware NVMe does not work at all before 10 (or maybe 8). It will cause Windows to just not boot if it recognizes the NVMe drive.

Community ISOs :: Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by TSNH

2025-08-15T08:45:12+00:00

I installed Vista on a VM with SATA connection, added second disk connected as NVME, installed this driver to the nvme controller (it didn't work yet), than plugged in Vista VM's virtual drive and a physical nvme drive to a Linux VM, than dd Vista virtual drive to physical drive.

Surprisingly Vista managed to seamlessly recognize that it's suddenly on an NVME drive and it works perfectly as a boot drive now!

Do you happen to know if this driver supports HMB (using RAM as cache for dram-less SSDs)? normally I check that with HWinfo but this time it doesn't see any disks plugged in with this driver.

Community ISOs :: Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by TSNH

2025-08-16T11:05:45+00:00

From what I've read HMB is supported since Windows 10 Redstone1, so if that's Windows 7 driver it can't have it.
So it's better to buy SSDs with DRAM if you are planning to use Vista, but it's not important as long as those DRAM-less SSDs are not your system drive.
For reference On windows 7 and up HMB is supported by the Phison driver

Community Projects :: BunnyPad - The Notepad for All :: Reply by garrystraityt

2025-08-08T23:06:09+00:00

Okay, all, it's been a while BUT:

Current planned changes for v11:

Code: Select all

V11 Changelog:
- Fixed imports, QtCore isn't completely imported now
- Changed startup time from 16s to 5-6s when running from source
- Added error handling and clearer usage prompt in find dialog (ErrorTek)
- Replaced some easter eggs
- Fix GPU name detection
- Fix resolution detection
- Begin rewrite of Update method
- Began linting
- Remove redundant initializations

--- June 5th, 2025 ---
- Update Build Number
- Log File Name has been made simpler
- v11 uses INFO level as opposed to DEBUG
- Easter Egg changes
- More robust charmap
- Update functionality has been updated with better error handling and platform support
- Better code organization
- macOS doesn't use native toolbar
- Improved UI styling and functions

--- August 8th, 2025 ---
- Full code refactor for stability and maintainability while keeping single‑file architecture
- Strengthened cross‑platform support (Windows, macOS, Linux) for:
  * OS detection, CPU/GPU info, screen resolution  
  * File open/save dialogs, executable launching
- Added robust exception handling and user‑friendly error messages across all I/O and subprocess calls
- Consolidated constants for paths, icons, & version — easier to update and maintain
- Character Map optimized to default to Basic Latin block with option to switch ranges
- Menus/Toolbar/Actions made fully consistent and more responsive
- Improved Update Checker & Downloader:
  * Better GitHub API handling
  * Threaded progress updates
  * Works properly across platforms
- Improved About/Credits dialogs with clearer layout code
- Removed redundant/repeated logic and unused imports
- Minor PEP8 / formatting cleanups
- More resilient stylesheet loading with file existence check

While this list is incomplete, it gives a good idea about the changes users can expect.
Also, there have been issues with a missing DLL when running the PyQt5 variant under Windows 7. Dropping the missing dll into system32 fixes the issue, as does using dotexe1337's VxKex fork (without version spoofing). We will fix this issue in Version 11, which is when we also will attempt adding Windows Vista support.

Community Projects :: UXP based browsers :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-08-20T23:01:55+00:00

The web still is cooperating with Hydra and Lun3r other than a few sites that no longer load ... mostly still having fun and also looking forward to the next updates.

Community Projects :: UXP based browsers :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-09-02T20:01:23+00:00

Since I only use a handful of sites, the bells and whistles employed on number of sites mostly don't affect me, but I had to give up using Google Drive on UXP, it's just not usable anymore. Can't open folders, upload files, context menus are broken and don't get populated with all options...

Site Announcements and Guidelines :: Username change request thread :: Author K4sum1

2025-08-09T20:58:00+00:00

Since there's no way to change username without admin involvement, I've created this thread so you can request a username change. Just reply with the new username you want, and if it's available, it will be given to you.

If you'd rather not make a public post here, you can message me instead.

Site Announcements and Guidelines :: Username change request thread :: Reply by garrystraityt

2025-08-09T20:59:49+00:00

If K4sum1 is unavailable for whatever reason, those seeking to change their usernames without having it public could also PM me. I will also be the one keeping track of username changes to make sure they're not changed too often (for anti-spam reasons)

Site Announcements and Guidelines :: Issues with certain email providers not receiving emails from Eclipse :: Reply by Dimitris Balafoutis

2025-09-01T13:43:52+00:00

AOL.com user here. the email came after 1-2 days.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-08-20T22:46:45+00:00

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-08-20T22:51:31+00:00

X Files

General Chat :: Post your favorite cars/car brands. :: Reply by Nokiamies

2025-08-24T15:05:31+00:00

SAAB, specially the original 900. I am rattling around with one of those. It got made in Uusikaupunki factory in Finland with 120hp B201 engine which is best one Saab ever made.

It is automatic model (Borg Warner 37 3 speed) though since my condition makes it hard to operate clutch. Still it is pretty nice and no big problems despite over 400 000km on odometer. It is not all joy though. I need replace CV joint since it is making nasty sound and earlier it had power steering pump replaced after it began to leak. Consider how weather here goes from -40c to +40c over 400 000km for over 30 years old car without any major overhaul is impressive. My secret is taking care of maintenance in time. Change oil yearly and make sure you never let it run dry, during winter use engine block heater and do not push car until it has heated up.

As for engine oil any oil as long as it is right viscosity and either synthetic or mineral based if got old enough engine that cant keep synthetic one inside. I never cared about big brand oils. Biggest different for car shop in house synthetic oil brand and something like Valvoline Maxlife is additive package. Valvoline includes some chemicals like seal revival, but if you do not need those cheap one is same stuff.

SAAB is at it element during cold winter here. It got automatic seat heating which has been stock feature since 1970s on every Saab. You sit on seat and it heats it up. Also it got very good heater, when there is -40c outside having heater halfway makes car feel like sauna despite only having T-Shirt on . It is also very stable car to drive around on icy roads.

Bird wrote: ↑14 Nov 2023, 18:35 However on the Autobahn, 120 km/h at 4.000 RPM wasn't too efficent.

I am pretty sure cars with small engines were not made german autobahn in mind. Here on motorway you can only got 120km/h inside ring 3 (capital area) and elsewhere is 100km/h or 80km/h max during summer and during winter 80km/h or less. Same with railroad. 140km/h speed limit for most parts until you reach main track where locos can do 220km/h. Well most of sleeping coaches are limited to 165km/h anyway so it is not really not crucial here.

General Chat :: Eclipse.cx | Jokes General Thread :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-08-20T22:56:32+00:00

General Chat :: Eclipse.cx | Jokes General Thread :: Reply by Nokiamies

2025-08-24T16:19:46+00:00

microsoft pillows.jpg

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General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Nokiamies

2025-08-24T14:11:04+00:00

Hello,
you may remember me from MSFN (Was Mr.Scienceman2000 before). If anyone ever wondered what happened to me I got hurt pretty badly and been trying recover then broke down again and loop goes on . I am still kicking though and try get all out from life I can. These days I give in more times for things I love like music, driving around and working with legacy hardware. If accident taught me one thing it is that enjoy now don't wait to enjoy later as later may never come. Even though I never will be on shape I was before I believe it is worth it to keep going as long as you are breathing. To quote Cave Johnson from portal 2:

"When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons!"

I will be hopping around this and MSFN depending on mood, though I do prefer this forum since it runs great under Retrozilla under Windows 9x and Power Macintosh G4.

I intend to bring my cynical atti...I mean knowledge for this forum too . It is quite nice forum and I am happy to see how younger people are interested in older technology in this board.

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Duke

2025-08-24T20:24:38+00:00

Hi Nokiamies, welcome to Eclipse Community

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-08-24T22:20:38+00:00

Nokiamies wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025, 14:11Hello,
you may remember me from MSFN (Was Mr.Scienceman2000 before).

I'm sorry you got hurt and I"m glad you're recovering. Glad to have you here at eclipse and I (of course) remember you very well and you once joked in the cafe about not getting coffee in a timely matter lol.

Sadly I can no longer log in to MSFN anymore because they changed the log in form screen name to email and I haven't the slightest idea of what email I used when I joined in 2018 so I'm locked out. Looks very quiet from when we were active there in comparison; though.

Anyways ... wishing you well on your recovery and I hope better days are ahead.

Sal

PS: Glad you used the same avatar

EDIT: Just noticed a typo - sorry.

General Chat :: Browser compatiblity discussion :: Reply by Nokiamies

2025-08-25T17:47:07+00:00

since everyone else like browse forums with fancy high end smartphones i though i might too. Nokia e90 communicator with latest firmware built in browser works with js off. i hope attachments works too. Aero is little buggy but classic works great. I am using pda screen under keypad to write since qwerty. Also ssl works with nnproject tls 1.2 patch for s60 3rd

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General Chat :: MSFN Is Still Missing (3/26/24) :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-08-26T23:43:07+00:00

Down right now. Reported also on the TPX Foum

General Chat :: MSFN Is Still Missing (3/26/24) :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-08-27T07:48:52+00:00

And we're back up as of 3:47 am EDT

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-08-15T12:05:13+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑04 Jul 2025, 00:07 Oh, so that's why I have no irl friends, I don't have the money for it.

But you have the money to pay for the hosting of this website.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-08-15T12:13:39+00:00

You overestimate the cost to host a website.
In this day and age, you can host for LESS THAN $2 (USD) per month.
With the caveat that you already have an extra computer lying around (which I would say that MOST of us on this forum have at least two).
And are already paying an ISP (which you wouldn't be reading this if you are not).

But sure, let's call it $20 per month or so for "higher quality" web sites.

I have ran a server in the past but it was just for family.
It really didn't "cost" me anything!
But in my case, I had to update the family about every 3wks that the IP Address changed - not that costly to resolve but didn't look into it.

What "creams my corn" is when web site "owners" think they should rake in TENS OF THOUSANDS in "donations" to host a web site that barely breaks a thousand for an entire year !!!

If you don't believe me, I encourage you to see for yourself. Find some random web site seeking "donations" to fund hosting expenses then ask to "see their books". THEY WILL NOT REVEAL THEIR COSTS !!!

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by Possum98

2025-08-15T16:21:31+00:00

while some of this i agree with i 100% do not agree with suicide being the answer to everything! you will never be happy in life by throwing it away! your life is precious and killing yourself over thinking nobody likes you is a terrible reason to not live anymore death is not the fix to the worlds problems and thinking nothing will change is not going to help anything just take it from me i was that way myself at one point and im now on an alot better path then i was 3 years ago please don"t make death a priority!

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-08-15T21:48:45+00:00

@The-10-Pen
True, I know the K4sum1's remark was meant as a joke. Still, I hear modern web isn't exactly friendly to small players, with scrapers/bots etc. And censorship laws being cooked at some places...

I didn't deal with servers much in general, but back then I figured there are services that let you create hostname, so you don't have to deal with IPs.
---
Where do people find time/energy for friends anyway? Besides other issues, I don't feel like dealing with people beyond what my job forces me to. Though I guess consequentially, that way one's only interactions with people are forced, pointless and meaningless.

Speaking of which, I tried a bit of programming at workplace recently. Not really employed as developer there, just wasn't much usual work. I got access to code repo and they accepted the smaller changes, the bigger ones are on hold for now (testing etc.), though looking good.

But honestly, it's not something I want to be doing every day either. I kinda wish I could go somewhere else, but there's nowhere to go, would take a lot of luck for things to not be worse someplace else. It's just getting old...

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-08-20T22:40:34+00:00

UCyborg wrote: ↑15 Aug 2025, 21:48
Where do people find time/energy for friends anyway? Besides other issues, I don't feel like dealing with people beyond what my job forces me to. Though I guess consequentially, that way one's only interactions with people are forced, pointless and meaningless.

Hi, UCyborg; I hope you're doing well. Sorry I know I've been quiet as of late but I've been in a dark place mentally and I decided a break from the forum was needed and I feel a bit better now.

What I'm doing is removing friendship off the table now and trying to give more focus to the acquaintances I run into that are friendly to me and try to appreciate that much. I tend to keep to myself nowadays anyway and enjoy my plants and movies and music. I don't think I could handle friendship now anyway in this condition.

Anyways ... I do hope you are ok and I didn't forget about you.

TTYL

Sal

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-08-21T00:26:17+00:00

To be honest, I *prefer* solitude!
I have to pretend to be a "team player" at work at times but my job role is actually quite independent of others.
Just do my thing, hit deadlines, trudge along.

I've witnessed so many odd things over the years that I don't really have much "faith" in people - ESPECIALLY WOMEN !!! !!! !!!

Friend of mine once went through a divorce, SHE had a restraining order on him, but SHE would INVITE (via text, court-supplied "exhibit A") him to the house she got in the divorce to fix whatever. And she'd have the neighbor call the cops for him being on the property in violation of restraining order.

'nother friend was FIRED because his EX kept showing up at his place of employment and kept inciting drama in the parking lot.

Yet another friend, also divorced, was also INVITED (text, "exhibit A") and the ex's son was hiding and attacked him. Ex and son planned it!

Still another friend stood up from a table at a crowded restaurant and bumped into a waitress running around and not watching where she was going. Witnessed by several. The two fell to the ground but neither was hurt. HE went to HELP her up and SHE accused him of "touching her boob" in the process of helping her up. NO WITNESSES BACKED UP HER CLAIM. But SHE ran him through HELL AND BACK in courtroom drama for over a YEAR before the case eventually was dropped.

Sure, MEN are quite often TRASH also. BUT SO ARE WOMEN !!!

Anywhoo... Not to be a buzzkill, lol.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-08-30T23:26:47+00:00

No worries about being a buzzkill, ha

Yeah, I think it best to find solace in the solitude and appreciate the little contact I have with the public. I don't socialize anymore for multiple reasons actually ... one being I'd rather avoid egotistical people and self-centered people out there. I stay in the house a lot. I really wish I could say things will get better but my therapist says it has to get worse before it can get better and I can barely keep up now in this rat race. Society reminds me every day that it best to keep to myself and give little to other strangers. Also I fear people and some times I don't feel safe anymore being alone without my support workers.

I don't know.........

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by RedBeam

2025-08-31T03:13:56+00:00

(For Eclipse Community) hello everyone i won"t be staying long just wanted to get on and say that Ive left the forums its not because anyone did anything wrong or anything but because i"ve moved on to other things in life besides windows preservation and claiming life is pointless im young and still have everything ahead of me i don"t want to spend it complaining about how some person did something else or someone else did wrong to someone the point is im retiring from all forums effective immediately and will be gone from eclipse in the future the world is an amazing place created for all of us we should not be using it for grudges against past actions -RedBeam

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-08-31T19:22:58+00:00

RedBeam wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 03:13...im retiring from all forums effective immediately...

So good to hear from you, RedBeam; always is. Yes you are young but mature and thank you for your posting. I just wanted to say I do hope you might continue with your games forums, at least.

Take er easy...

Sal

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-09-02T20:12:04+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑30 Aug 2025, 23:26 I don't know.........

This sums it up for me in general...