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Research Network :: Porting modern versions of QT to Windows XP :: Reply by Darth Agnon

no_email@example.com (Darth Agnon) — Sun, 11 Oct 2026 14:04:11 +0000

I was doing some research for Qt 5 and 6 on Win XP, and found the following projects:

- https://github.com/R-YaTian/Qt5.6.3WinXP
- https://github.com/cxxzhang/qt6_5_for_xp

Research Network :: Porting modern versions of QT to Windows XP :: Reply by K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Sun, 11 Oct 2026 14:35:53 +0000

So I appear to have fucked up the QT on XP thing in the beginning and I need to like redo it and remake it and then I should have it working, I think. I might just avoid QT6 and recompile shit as QT5 since I have to rebuild it all anyways.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Tue, 06 Oct 2026 19:44:05 +0000

Pale Moon has been rather crashy in recent months. But they haven't given up and someone figured out and fixed the garbage collector, no more freezes due to it getting stuck.

Also wonder what to make of this.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Wed, 07 Oct 2026 13:48:43 +0000

UCyborg wrote: 06 Oct 2026, 19:44 Also wonder what to make of this.

Impressive !!!
That tells me that the Basilisk developer is working on something that is *NOT* UXP.
And, if I had to guess, does *NOT* target the XP Crowd.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 08 Oct 2026 14:39:26 +0000

UCyborg wrote: 06 Oct 2026, 19:44 Also wonder what to make of this.

Have you been able to uncover anything more from his "tease" screencap?
Like days away from a "reveal"? Or months away?

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sat, 10 Oct 2026 12:10:32 +0000

No, people there are kinda weird and I'm apprehensive / reluctant when it comes to posting / asking certain things. The UI does look Australis, running on something that's not Windows (he's not a Windows guy). And the developer announced stop of development for undetermined amount of time.

So yeah, who knows.

I wanted to try his multi-process Basilisk, it mostly just prevents one tab from slowing the rest down, but apparently only works on Linux. I tried building it on Windows, but it crashes with some weird error about not being to load some resource and no one cared to look into it.

And not being into programming, didn't feel like digging into it.

I probably wouldn't be able to cope with C++ anyway. Even C#, which is somewhat humane, I get sick of and can't look at at some point.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Sun, 11 Oct 2026 14:34:40 +0000

I may give it a try eventually™ in Lun3r and Hydra.

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 18:32:49 +0000

Firefox 115.41.0 ESR has been released:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.41.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.41.0/releasenotes/

Many security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/security/advisories/mfsa2026-91/

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 07:12:21 +0000

Firefox 115.42.0 ESR is available:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.42.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.42.0/releasenotes/

Many security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2026-98/

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 20:03:33 +0000

Firefox 115.43.0 ESR is out:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.43.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.43.0/releasenotes/

Security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2026-107/

Windows 9x and older :: How do you back up WinMe/9x? :: Author Darth Agnon

no_email@example.com (Darth Agnon) — Sat, 10 Oct 2026 18:30:00 +0000

I recently got down my mum's old WinME Dell Inspiron 8000 to polish, and decided I'd better back it up, in case the HDD flaked out. It has always been a flakey machine, and has stayed with us across 3 countries, me and my 2 brothers, my mum's degree, etc.

Most machines I just do a data backup with FreeFileSync and leave the OS and driver installers separate. But this old machine, I want to get everything with a disk image. Then I found out that DOS-based Windows doesn't have the Volume Shadow Copy Service and can't be imaged, without booting from a floppy disk into DOS. That's a royal pain and I have no floppies to sacrifice, nor do I trust this as a regular backup solution. I need to be able to image the computer/clone the HDD while it's On, in Windows.

Has anyone else had issues with this? What do you use to backup your old WinME/9x computers? Am I missing something obvious?

Windows 9x and older :: How do you back up WinMe/9x? :: Reply by teknixstuff

no_email@example.com (teknixstuff) — Sat, 10 Oct 2026 20:10:12 +0000

On Windows 95 and 98, it is a trivial matter: Start -> Shut down... -> Restart in MS-DOS mode.
On Windows ME, you must install a patch to restore this ability. Such a patch can be installed from within Windows, without needing a DOS floppy, so do not worry about that.
If your machine has a CD-ROM drive, you can also trivially turn any MS-DOS floppy image into a bootable ISO ready to burn to a CD, if you would prefer that route.
Once you have such ability, you should use either PowerQuest Drive Image or Norton Ghost, the best version of which for 9x I am still looking into.
Update: This is apparently not the best way to go about it these days. I'm looking into other methods - I suggest you wait a minute.

Windows 9x and older :: How do you back up WinMe/9x? :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sun, 11 Oct 2026 18:30:13 +0000

Maybe this can help for making a DOS bootable USB stick:
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/discussions/windows11/how-to-make-a-dos-bootable-flash-drive/4093205

Windows 9x and older :: How do you back up WinMe/9x? :: Reply by Darth Agnon

no_email@example.com (Darth Agnon) — Tue, 13 Oct 2026 22:34:11 +0000

Someone recommended me Acronis TrueImage, which allegedly has some sort of driver that functions in place of Volume Shadow Copy Services. I haven't tested that yet, though. I installed Norton Ghost, which was a bit unclear on if it could make a bootable CD (and I couldn't find a copy of MS DOS, as it comes with PC DOS).

I'd be very interested in that WinME patch to restore DOS booting abilities.

Windows 9x and older :: How do you back up WinMe/9x? :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Tue, 13 Oct 2026 23:24:03 +0000

Darth Agnon wrote: 13 Oct 2026, 22:34 I'd be very interested in that WinME patch to restore DOS booting abilities.

I've found this:
https://www.infania.net/misc/RealDOSME/
https://github.com/gpdm/TPC-WinMe-DOSMODE

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Suspicious r3dfox startup :: Author andrixnet

no_email@example.com (andrixnet) — Fri, 09 Oct 2026 05:53:35 +0000

r3dfox v128.14.1esr 32bit built for XP

r3dfox configured with homepage set to blank, network = no proxy, DNS over HTTPS turned off, otherwise stock condition (no additional extensions or themes, besides the stock ublock origin).

Upon startup, it attempts to connect to an IP from the 34.64.0.0/10 range (Google) using UDP port 443.
I block the connection, then it tries to connect to an IP from 172.64.0.0/13 range (Cloudflare) using UDP port 443.
Then goes back to Google and keeps trying from 142.250.0.0/15 range, same protocol and port.

What is this activity and why, given the above configuration?

To me it looks like DNS related, not honoring the DNS over HTTPS = off, because it starts again trying these connection with each new page I visit.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Suspicious r3dfox startup :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 09 Oct 2026 11:15:23 +0000

All Firefox (Official and Forks) do that.
It's background telemetry crap.
The *only* (and I really do mean *ONLY*, I've tried HUNDREDS) that does *NOT* do this was IceCat.
But it seems to no longer be developed.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Suspicious r3dfox startup :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Fri, 09 Oct 2026 21:07:21 +0000

I'm not using this build of R3dfox but does it still happen if you set DNS over HTTPS to max protection using Quad9 ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 12:54:08 +0000

Duke wrote: 06 Sep 2026, 00:51 Anyway, if R3dfox v155 is taking some time to be built maybe we could have meanwhile a R3dfox v140.15 ESR ?

It's not that r3dfox 155 is taking some time, it's more I'm just busy with other stuff and not going to be working on anything past potential 153 ESR for now. At least until e3k catches up with the modern versions. I'll probably do 153 ESR, and release versions branded with both r3dfox and r3dfox ESR branding to keep both up to date with security stuffs. I will be doing 140.15 ESR soon, but also a 128 ESR for XP too.

PantelicGR wrote: 12 Sep 2026, 13:37 Greetings.
The r3dfox repo on GitHub has been archived for security reasons for 24 hours and it's up again along with the Eclipse Community Forum.

Can you explain what happened?
Should we take some security measures as well?

No, you don't need to do anything. I pretty much only did that since some big events had gone down off platform, and I was tired and wanted to sleep and so I just felt better locking the forum and GitHub page so it couldn't be spammed by attackers or anything while I was asleep. It did work, however I was still too stressed out to be able to sleep that much.

Also I'm not sure if there was something to quote for this but I realized I should probably mention it. I'll be reenabling webrtc for the new 153 builds, which is also another reason I wanted to have both branded builds for it.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 18:35:22 +0000

K4sum1 wrote: 15 Sep 2026, 12:54 I will be doing 140.15 ESR soon

I'll be reenabling webrtc for the new 153 builds

Firefox v140.16 ESR and Firefox v156 have been released today!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Thu, 17 Sep 2026 18:40:41 +0000

Question about r3dfox v153.3.0-multi:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v153.3.0-multi

Is the R3dfox v153.3.0 ESR build made from Firefox v153.3.0 ESR code ? :
https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/153.3.0/releasenotes/

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Thu, 17 Sep 2026 21:06:06 +0000

Yes, the browser versioned 153.3.0 is based off of 153.3.0.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sun, 04 Oct 2026 09:40:38 +0000

I have the same issue as described in this report:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/272

It's working fine with Firefox 115.42 ESR:

ZoomEarth-Firefox115ESR.png

But not with R3dfox 153.3:

ZoomEarth-R3dfox153.png

Also notice that the commands box is broken with R3dfox.

The workarounds from the report don't work for me.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by andrixnet

no_email@example.com (andrixnet) — Mon, 05 Oct 2026 16:41:31 +0000

R3Dfox-ESR-140.11.0 on Win7 I found it to cause resource exhaution after some usage.
By that I mean "windows resources" - the ability of the OS to draw widgets.
This happens after using the browser for a while like 15-30min with 10+ tabs. or even less if using JS intensive pages like FB.
Closing the browser recovered the situation.

Interestingly enough, Firefox-ESR-115.40 update (recent) had a similar issue causing 100% RAM usage after a while and stopped loading new URLs then stopped responding.

See on multiple computers.

Today I updated to R3DFox-ESR-140.14.0 (portable, overwriting files except profile).
After over an hour of similar browsing things seem to be stable so far.

Thanks.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by andrixnet

no_email@example.com (andrixnet) — Mon, 05 Oct 2026 16:46:35 +0000

Also very grateful for the recent XP build of r3dfox-128.

Cheers.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by andrixnet

no_email@example.com (andrixnet) — Tue, 06 Oct 2026 19:06:30 +0000

Any chance the XP build can get Firefox account support?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sun, 11 Oct 2026 18:39:29 +0000

Looks like Mozilla is now making a Firefox release every 2 weeks, like...Chrome :
https://whattrainisitnow.com/calendar/
https://whattrainisitnow.com/release/?version=esr

Next versions 158 and 153.5 ESR to be released on Tuesday.

So I hope the R3dfox team can cope with that and doesn't spend too much time for very few people who are still using XP

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

no_email@example.com (JodyThornton) — Sun, 11 Oct 2026 22:02:10 +0000

Duke wrote: 11 Oct 2026, 18:39 Looks like Mozilla is now making a Firefox release every 2 weeks, like...Chrome :
https://whattrainisitnow.com/calendar/
https://whattrainisitnow.com/release/?version=esr

Next versions 158 and 153.5 ESR to be released on Tuesday.

So I hope the R3dfox team can cope with that and doesn't spend too much time for very few people who are still using XP

I wish there were more of you to speak like I do on the e3k and r3dFox Github pages. I get tomatoes thrown at me, but I STILL maintain that e3k had a great working version of Firefox ESR 140x that worked with Windows 7 and 8. But no ... he had to go cater to the XP crowd.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 05:52:22 +0000

JodyThornton wrote: 11 Oct 2026, 22:02 I wish there were more of you to speak like I do on the e3k and r3dFox Github pages. I get tomatoes thrown at me, but I STILL maintain that e3k had a great working version of Firefox ESR 140x that worked with Windows 7 and 8. But no ... he had to go cater to the XP crowd.

I don't have a Github account, I had problems creating one that's why I talk about bugs and other problems here on this forum.
Better tomatoes than stones though! But yes, I don't get this XP madness.
That said, v140 ESR is EOL now. So is v128 which is not working anymore on some pages. The reason why I point out that Firefox releases cycle is faster than before now.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by teknixstuff

no_email@example.com (teknixstuff) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 09:33:13 +0000

There's a lot of new development on XP at the moment - new drivers, new custom ISOs, new tooling for it, etc. So, XP is rather becoming more of a focus for a lot of the legacy development community.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 14:01:29 +0000

It's actually kind of fun to watch. Strictly from the sidelines, as I ***wasted*** far too many years running XP.

We have several communities where their entire, and I really do mean their ***ENTIRE*** focus is XP but on brand-d@mn-new hardware.
Sub-forums for everything from Android to Linux to 10 and 11, but the XP on brand-d@mn-new hardware are the ONLY active threads.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 14:03:44 +0000

ps - regarding "I don't get this XP madness"...

It's kind of easy, and it really is as simple as this - Those that don't know their history are condemned to repeat it.

ie, Windows 98 went through this same d@mn "focus" for DECADES. Now the next generation is doing the same d@mn thing with XP.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by teknixstuff

no_email@example.com (teknixstuff) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 17:56:46 +0000

There is potentially more reasoning to this, though. We have source code for XP now, and XP is built on the much more stable NT, rather than 9x. Yet, it predates Vista's complications of componentization, MUI, CBS, TrustedInstaller, WDDM, etc. Plus, far less effort is required to port to XP than was to port to 9x. It is quite a different matter, and there may be a lot to gain from it.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 19:20:39 +0000

I'm not "yet" convinced.
I've been watching a lot of this going on in other forums.
One of them even provided an .iso and I installed that on hardware that is less than a year and a half old.
So far, I'm *not* impressed. Doesn't mean that I won't be at some point in time.
But keep in mind that I'm also not comparing these XP Mutant Ninja Builds on 1yr old hardware to "10 or 11" on the same 1yr old hardware.

I do things like DPC Latency checks and "debloats" and that type of stuff with my Win10 and my point is basically this -
It is FAR easier to debloat the crusty edges out of Win10 and obtain a truly efficient "screaming" machine...
Than it is to "hexify" XP and obtain the same level of "scream"...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by teknixstuff

no_email@example.com (teknixstuff) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 20:00:50 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: 12 Oct 2026, 19:20 One of them even provided an .iso and I installed that on hardware that is less than a year and a half old.

Funnily enough, I'm working on one such ISO.

The-10-Pen wrote: 12 Oct 2026, 19:20 But keep in mind that I'm also not comparing these XP Mutant Ninja Builds on 1yr old hardware to "10 or 11" on the same 1yr old hardware.

Makes sense - if you're trying to just compare OSes, you'd need to be comparing them on the same hardware.

The-10-Pen wrote: 12 Oct 2026, 19:20 I do things like DPC Latency checks and "debloats" and that type of stuff with my Win10 and my point is basically this -
It is FAR easier to debloat the crusty edges out of Win10 and obtain a truly efficient "screaming" machine...
Than it is to "hexify" XP and obtain the same level of "scream"...

Performance is different for every different workload and hardware - and not everyone cares that much about performance anyway, as an interface that you prefer can be a major time saver too.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 21:16:59 +0000

idk XP is like fun. I do like try to get it running on modern hardware for the fun of it. However like for older machines where I need to test random stuffs on, I may have like a multiboot of XP, 7, and maybe one or two other operating systems. If I need XP, it would be cool to have a good browser there too, which is also why I try to keep all the programs I use as close to XP compatibility as I can. For even older machines that's also why I do Lun3r and eMail and co.

The-10-Pen wrote: 12 Oct 2026, 19:20 I do things like DPC Latency checks and "debloats" and that type of stuff with my Win10

https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?t=654

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 22:53:57 +0000

teknixstuff wrote: 12 Oct 2026, 20:00 and not everyone cares that much about performance anyway

EVERYBODY that I know cares a GREAT DEAL about performance.
Some even to the point of "throwing away" a perfectly AWESOME computer because it is "three years old".

My Ungoogled Chromium running on Win10 LTSC 21H2 has some tweaks, but it is "my" FRAME OF REFERENCE for anything browser-related.

I argue this differently than others.
Some (and they would have to provide their own proof) claim that e3k's browsers are "slower" today compared to 6 months ago BECAUSE of XP.
I have never tested this theory. Nor have I seen proof provided that basically says e3k is going downhill ever since including XP.
Again, I have not tested (and nor will I - personally, I would prefer that e3k abandoned XP ***AND*** 7 and focused on zero-AI and zero-telemetry forks).

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 12 Oct 2026 22:52:16 +0000

As far as I can tell, e3k's browsers, both Chromium and Firefox, work ***BEST*** in Win7 !!!
Not by that much over Win10.

And additionallly, e3k's browsers, both Chromium and Firefox, work ***WORST*** in XP !!!

Now then, what does the HISTORY of e3k's Win7 performance say?
Does a version 6 months ago work even better than my Ungoogled v144 ???

BUT...
If a version 6 months ago is IDENTICAL, *relatively speaking* (different version simply due to Upstream will vary), than WHO CARES if the developer started to include XP support. Since NO EVIDENCE has been provided to demonstrate that it would be "faster" if the developer did NOT take the XP route.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Tue, 13 Oct 2026 11:23:30 +0000

teknixstuff wrote: 12 Oct 2026, 09:33 There's a lot of new development on XP at the moment - new drivers, new custom ISOs, new tooling for it, etc. So, XP is rather becoming more of a focus for a lot of the legacy development community.

I'm not saying it's not interesting nor exciting. But since the beginning R3dfox was made for Vista+.
As of today, R3dfox is already 2 versions behind Firefox. I'm sure there are more Windows 7-8-10-11 people using R3dfox than XP ones. Because yes, I know people who prefer to use R3dfox than Firefox on Windows 10 and 11.

So all these 7-11 people are let down because of very few XP users and an intellectual challenge ?
Bah! Your choice.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

no_email@example.com (JodyThornton) — Tue, 13 Oct 2026 15:12:37 +0000

Duke wrote: 12 Oct 2026, 05:52 That said, v140 ESR is EOL now. So is v128 which is not working anymore on some pages. The reason why I point out that Firefox releases cycle is faster than before now.

Yet I would have been REALLY happy to get updates to v140x ESR (and even use that until the end of the year). The 153 ESR version seems hard to configure with a title bar and tabs under the address bar like this.

Firefox - Windows 8.jpg

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

no_email@example.com (GoodConscience) — Tue, 13 Oct 2026 13:47:57 +0000

JodyThornton wrote: 13 Oct 2026, 12:19
r3dfox ESR 128

... Impossible to access and view here ; redirects to a "login.live.com" webpage instead :

https://login.live.com/login.srf?wa=wsignin1%2E0&rpsnv=206&ct=1791898608&rver=7%2E5%2E2146%2E0&wp=MBI%5FSSL&wreply=https%3A%2F%2Fonedrive%2Elive%2Ecom%2F%5Fforms%2Fdefault%2Easpx%3Fapr%3D1&lc=1032&id=250206&guests=1&wsucxt=1&cobrandid=11bd8083%2D87e0%2D41b5%2Dbb78%2D0bc43c8a8e8a&aadredir=1

Don't actually have a MS (/Google/Apple) account myself ...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

no_email@example.com (GoodConscience) — Tue, 13 Oct 2026 14:02:23 +0000

Duke wrote: 12 Oct 2026, 05:52
I don't have a Github account, I had problems creating one

What problems? Have you re-tried recently?

https://github.com/signup

They only want a valid e-mail address, a password and username (perhaps one of your privacy settings or a content blocker is messing with the new account submission?); existing Google/Apple accounts may be used as alternatives...

My own GH account was created many years before MS acquired it ...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

no_email@example.com (GoodConscience) — Tue, 13 Oct 2026 14:50:18 +0000

Duke wrote: 13 Oct 2026, 11:23
But since the beginning R3dfox was made for Vista+.

Not true per se (I have Vista SP2 x86 here, so I know firsthand ) ; initially, the browser would only target Win7 SP1 x64 ; the first build that promised Vista SP2 support WITHOUT VistaExtendedKernel was Beta v126.0.2v:

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox-old/releases/tag/v126.0.2v

Then came:

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox-old/releases/tag/v115.13.0esr

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox-old/releases/tag/v115.13.0esr-stable

And the very first "release" channel build with native Vista (SP2) support (even for x86 - but without sandbox there) was:

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox-old/releases/tag/v128.0.2

Changes on top of the previous 128.0 build:
Windows Vista support!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

no_email@example.com (JodyThornton) — Tue, 13 Oct 2026 15:14:23 +0000

GoodConscience wrote: 13 Oct 2026, 13:47 ... Impossible to access and view here ; redirects to a "login.live.com" webpage instead :

Usually sharing makes it work on most other forums. Anyway I uploaded a direct attachment.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 18 Sep 2026 23:39:12 +0000

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260919-3219d2d-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260919-3219d2d-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260919-3219d2d-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260919-d849524bd-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260919-d849524bd-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260919-d849524bd-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260919-d849524bd-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260919-d849524bd-uxp-3d26c4217e-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2473 - Follow-up: Pref the `:has()` selector. (d5afaa0087)
- Improve typing performance on complex pages (c7116a2130)
- Issue #3176 - Reduce :has() restyle and selector matching overhead (97cfa81c08)
- Issue #3176 - Avoid :has() restyles for unrelated attribute changes (6c9c05b958)
- Issue #3029 - Add detection of VP9 hardware decoding support in about:support (1451d3a758)
- Issue #3029 - Add option to hardware decode VP9 with non-MFT DXVA2 (d08d51f223)
- Issue #3029 - Rename WMFVP9MFTManager to WMFVP9DXVA2Manager (636ac51d3e)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes since my last build:
- Revert "Revert "Issue #2473 - implement :has() CSS pseudo class"" (e1cbadcad3)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 18 Sep 2026 23:40:43 +0000

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260919-40a79c75-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260919-40a79c75-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260919-id-656ea98-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260919-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-3d26c4217e-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 18 Sep 2026 23:43:14 +0000

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20260919-ba87d1c01-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20260919-ba87d1c01-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- Revert "Revert "ported from UXP: Issue #2473 - implement :has() CSS pseudo class (aed631e5)"" (18bfccef9)
- import from UXP: Issue #2473 - Follow-up: Pref the `:has()` selector. (d5afaa00) (f63becae1)
- import from UXP: Improve typing performance on complex pages (c7116a21) (2e485a577)
- import from UXP: Issue #3176 - Reduce :has() restyle and selector matching overhead (97cfa81c) (4b4c9e256)
- import from UXP: Issue #3176 - Avoid :has() restyles for unrelated attribute changes (6c9c05b9) (71e92ef3d)
- ported from UXP: Issue #3029 - Add detection of VP9 hardware decoding support in about:support (1451d3a7) (8478bf83c)
- ported from UXP: Issue #3029 - Add option to hardware decode VP9 with non-MFT DXVA2 (d08d51f2) (493b54df7)
- ported from UXP: Issue #3029 - Rename WMFVP9MFTManager to WMFVP9DXVA2Manager (636ac51d) (ba87d1c01)

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 25 Sep 2026 22:46:24 +0000

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260926-3219d2d-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260926-3219d2d-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260926-3219d2d-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260926-d849524bd-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260926-d849524bd-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260926-d849524bd-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260926-d849524bd-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260926-d849524bd-uxp-6dc084ab65-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2275 - Make the existing native AArch64 Baseline JIT usable (5d34744788)
- No Issue - Fix out-of-range float to int32 conversions (cefd11e3fb)
- Issue #3176 - Fix excessive :has() restyles when typing (df262e818d)
- [a11y] Uncache subtree of hidden accessible when it is coalesced. (583472f9af)
- [network] NTLM should always prompt for credentials if the host is not in trusted-uris. (92544b1a5d)
- [DOM] Bail on unexpected structural errors. (3f100d37a1)
- [widget] Hold a reference to nsDataObj in callbacks. (43e89bdce9)
- [embedding] Fix ChromeTooltipListener. (90fc7a7dae)
- Bug 2058417 - Use the normalized format consistently in DataTransfer::SetDataAtInternal. (e0004700cf)
- Bug 2058069 - Compare formats before adopting a managed surface in Image9. (66f59023ed)
- [js] Fix issues in WeakRef `deref()` leading to crashes. (bab5b5149a)
- libvpx: Enable -mmmx conditionally for MMX source file. (783ba814eb)
- [DOM] Fix XSLT children processing. (d699ba40da)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 25 Sep 2026 22:47:45 +0000

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260926-40a79c75-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260926-40a79c75-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260926-id-656ea98-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260926-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-6dc084ab65-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 25 Sep 2026 22:48:50 +0000

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20260926-c60fa6f70-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20260926-c60fa6f70-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- ported from UXP: Issue #2275 - Make the existing native AArch64 Baseline JIT usable (5d347447) (035a745a3)
- import from UXP: No Issue - Fix out-of-range float to int32 conversions (cefd11e3) (919b9d323)
- import from UXP: Issue #3176 - Fix excessive :has() restyles when typing (df262e81) (bf7d3f4dc)
- import from UXP: [a11y] Uncache subtree of hidden accessible when it is coalesced. (583472f9) (dbb1b94a6)
- import from UXP: [network] NTLM should always prompt for credentials if the host is not in trusted-uris. (92544b1a) (9c21a47b5)
- import from UXP: [DOM] Bail on unexpected structural errors. (3f100d37) (6dccddb09)
- import from UXP: [widget] Hold a reference to nsDataObj in callbacks. (43e89bdc) (d8dd247ad)
- import from UXP: Bug 2058417 - Use the normalized format consistently in DataTransfer::SetDataAtInternal. (e0004700) (6148dbadd)
- import from UXP: Bug 2058069 - Compare formats before adopting a managed surface in Image9. (66f59023) (4a3550cb2)
- import from UXP: [js] Fix issues in WeakRef `deref()` leading to crashes. (bab5b514) (4c0f83c7f)
- import from UXP: libvpx: Enable -mmmx conditionally for MMX source file. (783ba814) (71ec09cb2)
- import from UXP: [DOM] Fix XSLT children processing. (d699ba40) (c60fa6f70)

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Sat, 03 Oct 2026 00:36:48 +0000

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20261003-3219d2d-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20261003-3219d2d-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20261003-3219d2d-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20261003-d849524bd-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20261003-d849524bd-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20261003-d849524bd-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20261003-d849524bd-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20261003-d849524bd-uxp-256ea9fc2f-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #3188 - Use strnlen() everywhere except Mac OS X < 10.7 (d644dfa630)
- Issue #3192 - Add null check on group_ for `isSingleton()` (09357e62bd)
- No issue - Add sanity check to `JSScript::traceChildren` (2616a9db20)
- Modernize MIME header parsing module. (ba8d4e64c6)
- Backport an upstream libvpx VP8 fix (9829b57690)
- Bug 2068346 - Unwrap a copy in GetJSValFromKeyPathString. (640a812294)
- [network] Prevent NTLM login attempt with empty credentials. (f4eed7379d)
- [DOM] Don't leak elements with animated classes. (11ac4d3368)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Sat, 03 Oct 2026 00:36:52 +0000

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20261003-40a79c75-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20261003-40a79c75-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20261003-id-656ea98-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20261003-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-256ea9fc2f-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Sat, 03 Oct 2026 00:36:56 +0000

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20261003-1e2f4f3bc-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20261003-1e2f4f3bc-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- import from UXP: Issue #3188 - Use strnlen() everywhere except Mac OS X < 10.7 (d644dfa6) (e8560ab4d)
- import from UXP: Issue #3192 - Add null check on group_ for `isSingleton()` (09357e62) (55c62e714)
- import from UXP: No issue - Add sanity check to `JSScript::traceChildren` (2616a9db) (48f571572)
- ported from UXP: Modernize MIME header parsing module. (ba8d4e64) (f50c518b9)
- import from UXP: Backport an upstream libvpx VP8 fix (9829b576) (d3869365f)
- import from UXP: Bug 2068346 - Unwrap a copy in GetJSValFromKeyPathString. (640a8122 (8620b3cf3)
- import from UXP: [network] Prevent NTLM login attempt with empty credentials. (f4eed737) (8e01df636)
- import from UXP: [DOM] Don't leak elements with animated classes. (11ac4d33) (1e2f4f3bc)

Community Projects :: Lun3r/Hydra UXP build guide (+ eMail/Lun3r Navigator) :: Reply by K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Fri, 09 Oct 2026 18:04:47 +0000

I don't feel like editing the post right now, so I'll leave a few notes.

Now each mozconfig compiles to it's own specific directory, so you can build all of them and not need to clobber any.

IA-32 is now as simple as just using the IA-32 mozconfig. No fiddling required.

eMail patch instead of being a different branch now is a patch that can be applied with git apply 0001-platform.patch

If you want to go back to compiling UXP after applying said patch, run git apply --reverse 0001-platform.patch and then git clean -d -x -f and you will be able to build UXP again.

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 12:50:06 +0000

So MSFN is down again.
Owner keeps citing "bot attacks" and basically catering to the userbase to NOT use anything like Cloudflare.
I can't help but kind of laugh, to be honest, because sites like https://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/ is *NEVER* down and does not use Cloudflare.
Kind of just sit back and watch, lol.

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 13:04:36 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: 15 Sep 2026, 12:50 Owner keeps citing "bot attacks" and basically catering to the userbase to NOT use anything like Cloudflare.

> Doesn't use Cloudflare because it's annoying and breaks with older browsers.

> Upgrades Invision and co which breaks older browsers.

atp you just might as well.

The-10-Pen wrote: 15 Sep 2026, 12:50 I can't help but kind of laugh, to be honest, because sites like https://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/ is *NEVER* down and does not use Cloudflare.
Kind of just sit back and watch, lol.

From my looking into it, it's a much simpler setup.

For forums, the entire web UI and stuff is PHP and every request requires querying a MySQL database, each page is dynamically generated by the server and sent to the user on each request. This doesn't require that much processing power to do, but multiply this across hundreds or thousands of requests at the same time, and the server's CPU can get pegged and things can break down.

Going to a post on the rt1 blog gives an url ending in .html, and when blocking javascript, you still get the full post. So the software that rt1 uses for his blog takes advantage of the simpler nature of blog content and just generates a static html file server side which then the user's browser requests and the server simply just sends. This is far simpler than having to dynamically generate a forum page on each request. This is also why the Eclipse main site always loads nice and fast while the forum is completely down and gives a 502 and whatever. Even pinned at or near 100% sending basic html and css is nothing.

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 13:15:48 +0000

Split this post from previous because this is a hypothesis of sorts and I'm not sure how exactly it works nor do I really have the will or patience to dig into it.

I also assume the forum sequentially generates every page without sharing much info before or after. If the server is backed up and your request takes too long for the server to get to, I assume it just drops it and gives you a 502 error. If it were to generate multiple pages at a time, I don't think you would get a 502, it would still load but even slower. Except I feel like the hammering of the CPU would be worse, and things could break down even harder and it could completely crash idk.

phpBB, used for this forum, Eclipse Community, shows the time it takes to generate the page you see at the bottom. You can hover over it for more detail too. eBoard2, when it was hosted gave even more verbose info too. When the server is being hammered, if the page eventually loads for you, you may notice the time isn't that much different from when the server is not under such stress. I believe this supports my previous hypothesis of sequential generation since if it took you like 15 seconds to get the page, but the time at the bottom to generate the page is more like 1 second, well what else could that mean?

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 22:33:03 +0000

https://github.com/8Protons/POWBlock

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 22:58:09 +0000

Looks promising.

BUT... the tiny flaw I see is the line about "Your Rules. Your Logic. Your Stack. Your Traffic."
I could be wrong, but I think that the forum owner is battling two choices, 1) [which I think he should do!] use Cloudflare, let Cloudflare do all of the logic and rules and log-learning and updating and self-adjusting, or 2) take it upon himself to monitor logs, adjust rules, apply manual updates, etc.

I really think, and it may just be my view of things, but I really think that the owner wants NOTHING (aka, "very little") to do with #2 and would rather the server crashes *CONVINCE* the "haters" that the server MUST USE CLOUDFLARE.

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Tue, 15 Sep 2026 23:19:45 +0000

ps - I should point out that Cloudflare's FREE VERSION offers bot protection !!!
Sitting behind Cloudflare doesn't cost a d@ng penny!
The problem (as I see it) is that MOB MENTALITY RULES - the MOB has spoken, the MOB does not want Cloudflare.
So the owner (to me at least) seems "ok" with the server crashing.
ie, (in my view) enough server crash downtime and that MOB will *change their mind*.

Memorial :: Looking for a copy of the KB831899 update for Server 2003/XP x64 :: Author K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Sun, 04 Oct 2026 07:40:24 +0000

If you have this update, please give.

Memorial :: Looking for a copy of the KB831899 update for Server 2003/XP x64 :: Reply by K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Sun, 04 Oct 2026 07:45:14 +0000

Also semi-related, would like to know if anyone has or can recover this pdf file.
http://vm1.duckdns.org/Public/Nvidia-XP-x64-Issue/Nvidia.pdf
https://hardforum.com/threads/x64-sp2-driver-is-mismanaging-system-ptes.1170070/#post-1043948478

I'd like to know what these official Nvidia details were.

Memorial :: Looking for a copy of the KB831899 update for Server 2003/XP x64 :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sun, 04 Oct 2026 13:57:06 +0000

K4sum1 wrote: 04 Oct 2026, 07:40 If you have this update, please give.

I haven't found it in my archives. I guess because I don't have much stuff from XP x64 and Server 2003 as I've never used them.
But maybe it's included in this build published in 2024 ? :
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=6905

Or here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=27668

According to this page the problematic file is Classpnp.sys and the patched version is 5.2.3790.113:
https://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/index.php?title=Microsoft_KB_Archive/831899

Memorial :: Looking for a copy of the KB831899 update for Server 2003/XP x64 :: Reply by K4sum1

no_email@example.com (K4sum1) — Sun, 04 Oct 2026 15:29:01 +0000

Ah with your link I realize this update is ancient, before SP2. The newest SP2 classpnp.sys is far later than 5.2.3790.113, so this is just not applicable to it.

Was chasing a potential lead for an issue, and ig that closes this one.