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Tonny52 wrote: 07 May 2021, 23:31 Yes, I did sell the AMD card for insane profit. I feel guilty about making $600 from a card I bought for $370.

My main problem is that I don't know what to do when I start wanting to upgrade my PC. I am basically using the last well-supported generation of Intel (Z390+ is a little harder to work with) and same with GPU. While the 30 series supports 7, it does not support 8. AMD stopped supporting 8 in 2017.

A more notable problem is mentally, I have been using 10 for almost 6 years now. I wish I stayed on 7 back then so it would be easier to move, but I upgraded basically the day 10 came out. Haven't used 7 or 8.x for more than a day since then. It's mentally hard to also deal with how I can forget im on Windows 10 but occasionally have the bugs and stuff that remind me. When I'm on 7 and 8.1, I constantly see people saying "get off of those!" and flooded with a bunch of "not supported" and any information about 7 is on a forum from 10 years ago, so most of the answers are outdated. When I find more modern forums about it, most of the comments say to get off of 7 and to "move on".
I don't feel guilty that I made $950 off of my 5700XT, let the rich fucks throw their pocket change at you.

If you want to upgrade your PC, you should probably max out at Ryzen 5000 and a 1080 Ti, or maybe one of AMD's newer cards. I'll probably do that, unless big.little doesn't make Windows 7 shit itself. Modern Nvidia cards and drivers are kinda shit for older games, even AMD fares better in that regard.

If you need any help moving to 7 or 8.x, just ask me or anyone here, they'll happily help you. If anyone on this forum pushes 10, I'll just straight up ban them. Those fuckers are too far gone, especially if they seek entertainment on a small forum like this. Also, plenty of 10+ year old answers are still relevant today, because Windows 7 is a 10+ year old OS.
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So I installed that custom Windows 8.0 iso I found on the forums and it seems to run very well. It has more modern features that I like and still gives off the Windows 7 vibes. Ive been planning to go to Ryzen 5000 someday and to upgrade to a 1080 Ti, so it's nice for those to be good options still.

I still don't understand why people enjoy Win10 so much.

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MassClaw wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 06:54
Audi9801 wrote: 28 Mar 2021, 07:50 OneDrive always leaked memory and overloaded the CPU to 80-100%, had to kill it off each startup.
Onedrive is one of 10's most notorious flaws, i wish they just drop the thing and go on with their lives. Just make the pain stop, the last thing people want is another app that's embedded deep into the system.
The same can be said for the Windows 10 help app.
Whats the point?
Nobody uses it and nobody WILL ever use it.
And the worst part is that you cant uninstall it.

Like wtf microsoft, you shitheads
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R3n wrote: 08 May 2021, 04:47
Tonny52 wrote: 07 May 2021, 23:31 Yes, I did sell the AMD card for insane profit. I feel guilty about making $600 from a card I bought for $370.

My main problem is that I don't know what to do when I start wanting to upgrade my PC. I am basically using the last well-supported generation of Intel (Z390+ is a little harder to work with) and same with GPU. While the 30 series supports 7, it does not support 8. AMD stopped supporting 8 in 2017.

A more notable problem is mentally, I have been using 10 for almost 6 years now. I wish I stayed on 7 back then so it would be easier to move, but I upgraded basically the day 10 came out. Haven't used 7 or 8.x for more than a day since then. It's mentally hard to also deal with how I can forget im on Windows 10 but occasionally have the bugs and stuff that remind me. When I'm on 7 and 8.1, I constantly see people saying "get off of those!" and flooded with a bunch of "not supported" and any information about 7 is on a forum from 10 years ago, so most of the answers are outdated. When I find more modern forums about it, most of the comments say to get off of 7 and to "move on".
I don't feel guilty that I made $950 off of my 5700XT, let the rich fucks throw their pocket change at you.

If you want to upgrade your PC, you should probably max out at Ryzen 5000 and a 1080 Ti, or maybe one of AMD's newer cards. I'll probably do that, unless big.little doesn't make Windows 7 shit itself. Modern Nvidia cards and drivers are kinda shit for older games, even AMD fares better in that regard.

If you need any help moving to 7 or 8.x, just ask me or anyone here, they'll happily help you. If anyone on this forum pushes 10, I'll just straight up ban them. Those fuckers are too far gone, especially if they seek entertainment on a small forum like this. Also, plenty of 10+ year old answers are still relevant today, because Windows 7 is a 10+ year old OS.
It's crazy. It felt like yesterday to me that Nvidia was the legacy go to when I was purchasing my GTX 950. Now not only are they sipping the Windows 10 kool-aid, their RTX platform/drivers takes a massive dump over older games. Basically, to enjoy RTX, you need to be rock'n Pisdows 10 and very, very recently released AAA games. Fuck that shit. God AMD is spotty too, but they truly are better now (in the RTX era).

I don't see myself upgrading past my 970 for a good while to come. I don't play many modern AAA, mostly lack of interest from the current offerings. But when enough do catch my eye again, I'll probably need a Series S. I'm not installing 10 to play games, nor will I hose my install with radioactive drivers. The only semi-usable sku of 10 (LTSC) is barred from playing many games too, so nice =DDDDD
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I'm going to try out that fully-updated W7 iso now. I may not be able to use aero transparency (which i like!) but I will try it. Mentally my issue is that almost everyone i know uses 10, so my gut wants me to be in the same boat as them, but mentally I don't want to.

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Tonny52 wrote: 08 May 2021, 17:17 I may not be able to use aero transparency
Why?
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Tonny52 wrote: 08 May 2021, 17:17 Mentally my issue is that almost everyone i know uses 10, so my gut wants me to be in the same boat as them, but mentally I don't want to.
don't let that stupid feel hold you back i'd say. go wild

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Tonny52 wrote: 08 May 2021, 17:17 I'm going to try out that fully-updated W7 iso now. I may not be able to use aero transparency (which i like!) but I will try it. Mentally my issue is that almost everyone i know uses 10, so my gut wants me to be in the same boat as them, but mentally I don't want to.
Go for it dude, you wont regret anything.
Dont let those assholes mock you just because you use 7.
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Win10-Hater wrote: 19 Jan 2021, 08:47 Hello all! First time posting here!
This forum topic is the place for you to share your experience with Windows 10 and the hardware config you used it on, or in other words: rant about Windows 10.

BTW, I used Windows 10 Home with updates enabled until last-to-last year (November 2019). It was used on a Dell Inspiron 15 3567 laptop with an i3-6006u, 4GB DDR4-2400 MHz RAM and a 1TB Toshiba 5400rpm HDD (soon upgrading to 8GB RAM and some 240GB SSD). It was horrible!! Luckily, I was able to install Windows 7 later, which was much, much better than Win10. Now I have Win8.1, which is better still, on that laptop.
That's good news beside my main computer host is running Windows 10 LTSB 2016 Version 1607 that didn't have a lot of bloatware.

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R3n wrote: 09 May 2021, 08:10
Tonny52 wrote: 08 May 2021, 17:17 I may not be able to use aero transparency
Why?
Discord likes to lag the system like crazy even though all monitors are the same refresh rate, does not matter what PC i use or what driver I use. Happens to me all the time. I have to turn aero transparency off or use Basic to get around it, or use 8.1+.

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Tonny52 wrote: 07 May 2021, 18:17
docR wrote: 07 May 2021, 18:05 Moving back may be easier than you think. What are your computer's specs?
I have a couple of PCs. Heres a list:

Laptop
Dell Inspiron 5579: i5-8250U, 16GB DDR4, UHD 620, 500GB SATA SSD. This can run 7 but the touchpad is horrible on it. better off on 8.x on this one. This one is currently on Win10 2004. Era 2017/2018.

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Dell PowerEdge R720: 2x E5-2620, 64GB DDR3 ECC, no GPU, 120GB SATA SSD, 2x 1TB HDD. Dell says this supports 2003 as a guest in a VM, 2008 Rx, 2012 Rx and 2016. Currently its on Server 2019. Era 2012/2013.

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Dell Precision T1700 SFF: E3-1246 v3, 16GB DDR3 ECC, HD P4600, 60GB SATA SSD. This one has a Win7 Pro COA on it, and dell says it supports Win7, 8, 8.1, and 10. Currently its on Server 2019. Era 2013/2014.

The problem is I have been using 10 for so long that mentally I am tied to it. I hate it, but every time I try to leave I end up gravitating back. 8.1 doesn't really feel this way, its mainly Windows 7 that does. Win7 has aero lag on my PC for no reason at all, too. Even after setting registry keys, still lag.
Dell Inspiron 15 5579 might handle 8.1 well, PowerEdge would work best with Server 2008R1/R2, though 2012 R1 would also be fine. Don't use Server Core if a CLI intimidates you.
Precision will work absolutely fine with 7-8.1.
Just don't use Win10 or Server 2016/2019.
Huge fan of Windows Vista, 7, 8.x, XP, 2K, ME and Linux, especially Zorin Linux, Ubuntu, elementaryOS and Mint.
I hate Windows 10. I am the last person one could ever convince to downgrade to Windows 10.

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Tonny52 wrote: 10 May 2021, 01:13
R3n wrote: 09 May 2021, 08:10
Tonny52 wrote: 08 May 2021, 17:17 I may not be able to use aero transparency
Why?
Discord likes to lag the system like crazy even though all monitors are the same refresh rate, does not matter what PC i use or what driver I use. Happens to me all the time. I have to turn aero transparency off or use Basic to get around it, or use 8.1+.
Well, you could try out Ripcord, or use Discord in the browser.
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So recently I have been looking to upgrade and get a whole new PC or a new GPU. Since the market is a disaster right now it seems like my options are most likely to either wait a while or get a prebuilt. I would be turning my old desktop into a server (probably have it run some version of server). My issue is, does 7 or 8.x run on the 10xxx or 11xxx Intel CPUs, and I think it runs on the 30 series nvidia as well.

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Tonny52 wrote: 10 May 2021, 13:50 So recently I have been looking to upgrade and get a whole new PC or a new GPU. Since the market is a disaster right now it seems like my options are most likely to either wait a while or get a prebuilt. I would be turning my old desktop into a server (probably have it run some version of server). My issue is, does 7 or 8.x run on the 10xxx or 11xxx Intel CPUs, and I think it runs on the 30 series nvidia as well.
You're probably better off going Ryzen, but it should still work with those modern Intel chips.

Also, I'm curious to see if the Aero bug happens with one of your secondary systems (The Ivy Bridge i5) with the same Windows 7 install (From your main PC, if/when you install it) and 1050 Ti GPU.
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I actually tried that on one of my Xeon machines, still had the same issue. It has to do with something of how Discord uses DWM. I wonder if Discord is trying to limit Aero FPS to improve its own FPS.

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Just wanting to consider my options. What are basically the best alternatives to 10? Id assume like 7, 8.x, Linux?

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Unfortunately, that heavily depends on what you want out of an OS that is similar to 10. What aspects do you consider in your choices?

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Responsiveness, compatibility, stability. Features I am fine losing. I mainly want the first three.

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Tonny52 wrote: 12 May 2021, 03:57 Responsiveness, compatibility, stability. Features I am fine losing. I mainly want the first three.
yup, those are exactly the reasons why i personally dont use 10
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Tonny52 wrote: 12 May 2021, 03:57 Responsiveness, compatibility, stability. Features I am fine losing. I mainly want the first three.
Linux wins in stability, but it it's kinda ehh for the others. Responsiveness depends on the desktop environment, so it depends. Compatibility is alright if you properly setup Wine/Proton, but there's always some games and programs that don't work, and the setup can be a hassle. You could also use a Windows VM with a physical GPU using VFIO, but that depends on the hardware, requires two GPUs, and some games still don't play well with it.

Windows 8.1 and 7 are about equal in compatibility. Where 8.1 wins, 7 also has it's own gains, and you can mod most 8.x only shit to work on 7, and 7 only shit to work on 8.x.

In my own testing, when it comes to stability, it's 8.0, then 7, then 8.1. They're all pretty good, but 8.0 has been the best for me.

In responsiveness, I can't really tell much of a difference when running without animations. Each sometimes has slowdowns, but each feel fast most of the time.
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R3n wrote: 12 May 2021, 15:53
Tonny52 wrote: 12 May 2021, 03:57 Responsiveness, compatibility, stability. Features I am fine losing. I mainly want the first three.
Linux wins in stability, but it it's kinda ehh for the others. Responsiveness depends on the desktop environment, so it depends. Compatibility is alright if you properly setup Wine/Proton, but there's always some games and programs that don't work, and the setup can be a hassle. You could also use a Windows VM with a physical GPU using VFIO, but that depends on the hardware, requires two GPUs, and some games still don't play well with it.

Windows 8.1 and 7 are about equal in compatibility. Where 8.1 wins, 7 also has it's own gains, and you can mod most 8.x only shit to work on 7, and 7 only shit to work on 8.x.

In my own testing, when it comes to stability, it's 8.0, then 7, then 8.1. They're all pretty good, but 8.0 has been the best for me.

In responsiveness, I can't really tell much of a difference when running without animations. Each sometimes has slowdowns, but each feel fast most of the time.
So one thing I am wondering is that as of now 7 is still supported well as far as applications go. But as far as the future goes, we should be losing Electron and Chrome sometime in 2022, with security updates in 2024 (POSReady) and hardware too. I don't expect nvidia & AMD to support 7 on the 7000 series and the 4000 series, so I am not sure. I don't want to stick back with ancient hardware even if it is powerful, it isnt as energy effiecent.

I'm not sure. I like 7 because it checks all the boxes except for the longevity one, something that can sit there for years to come, without losing app support n such. Win10 for me is mainly annoying. I've talked with some friends who were Win7+XP fanboys their entire life, and they mentioned that they have accepted Windows 10 because Win7 is losing many compatibility support n such over the years and they have to accept the change and move on with life. I hate 10, but I don't know if moving things back to 7 is a good option.

I love 7, but its easier for those who have used it since its release date to say that it is still usable.

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Tonny52 wrote: 13 May 2021, 01:46
R3n wrote: 12 May 2021, 15:53
Tonny52 wrote: 12 May 2021, 03:57 Responsiveness, compatibility, stability. Features I am fine losing. I mainly want the first three.
Linux wins in stability, but it it's kinda ehh for the others. Responsiveness depends on the desktop environment, so it depends. Compatibility is alright if you properly setup Wine/Proton, but there's always some games and programs that don't work, and the setup can be a hassle. You could also use a Windows VM with a physical GPU using VFIO, but that depends on the hardware, requires two GPUs, and some games still don't play well with it.

Windows 8.1 and 7 are about equal in compatibility. Where 8.1 wins, 7 also has it's own gains, and you can mod most 8.x only shit to work on 7, and 7 only shit to work on 8.x.

In my own testing, when it comes to stability, it's 8.0, then 7, then 8.1. They're all pretty good, but 8.0 has been the best for me.

In responsiveness, I can't really tell much of a difference when running without animations. Each sometimes has slowdowns, but each feel fast most of the time.
So one thing I am wondering is that as of now 7 is still supported well as far as applications go. But as far as the future goes, we should be losing Electron and Chrome sometime in 2022, with security updates in 2024 (POSReady) and hardware too. I don't expect nvidia & AMD to support 7 on the 7000 series and the 4000 series, so I am not sure. I don't want to stick back with ancient hardware even if it is powerful, it isnt as energy effiecent.

I'm not sure. I like 7 because it checks all the boxes except for the longevity one, something that can sit there for years to come, without losing app support n such. Win10 for me is mainly annoying. I've talked with some friends who were Win7+XP fanboys their entire life, and they mentioned that they have accepted Windows 10 because Win7 is losing many compatibility support n such over the years and they have to accept the change and move on with life. I hate 10, but I don't know if moving things back to 7 is a good option.

I love 7, but its easier for those who have used it since its release date to say that it is still usable.
If you boost 7's marketshare, developers will support it for longer. 7000 and 4000 series could work on 7 if we show them that 7 is still a decent platform.
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R3n wrote: 13 May 2021, 02:00
Tonny52 wrote: 13 May 2021, 01:46
R3n wrote: 12 May 2021, 15:53

Linux wins in stability, but it it's kinda ehh for the others. Responsiveness depends on the desktop environment, so it depends. Compatibility is alright if you properly setup Wine/Proton, but there's always some games and programs that don't work, and the setup can be a hassle. You could also use a Windows VM with a physical GPU using VFIO, but that depends on the hardware, requires two GPUs, and some games still don't play well with it.

Windows 8.1 and 7 are about equal in compatibility. Where 8.1 wins, 7 also has it's own gains, and you can mod most 8.x only shit to work on 7, and 7 only shit to work on 8.x.

In my own testing, when it comes to stability, it's 8.0, then 7, then 8.1. They're all pretty good, but 8.0 has been the best for me.

In responsiveness, I can't really tell much of a difference when running without animations. Each sometimes has slowdowns, but each feel fast most of the time.
So one thing I am wondering is that as of now 7 is still supported well as far as applications go. But as far as the future goes, we should be losing Electron and Chrome sometime in 2022, with security updates in 2024 (POSReady) and hardware too. I don't expect nvidia & AMD to support 7 on the 7000 series and the 4000 series, so I am not sure. I don't want to stick back with ancient hardware even if it is powerful, it isnt as energy effiecent.

I'm not sure. I like 7 because it checks all the boxes except for the longevity one, something that can sit there for years to come, without losing app support n such. Win10 for me is mainly annoying. I've talked with some friends who were Win7+XP fanboys their entire life, and they mentioned that they have accepted Windows 10 because Win7 is losing many compatibility support n such over the years and they have to accept the change and move on with life. I hate 10, but I don't know if moving things back to 7 is a good option.

I love 7, but its easier for those who have used it since its release date to say that it is still usable.
If you boost 7's marketshare, developers will support it for longer. 7000 and 4000 series could work on 7 if we show them that 7 is still a decent platform.
7 is definitely still a decent platform, but I don't know how 1-100 people switching to 7 would be enough to change the marketshare, when w7 stil lruns on a few hundred million PCs. Most of them being workplaces, but a majority still being normal consumers.

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I doubt developers will bother looking up the statistics; even if hypothetically say some do, you have to have like a thousand for an at least noticable impact which won't realistically happen at any circumstances no matter how much faith you put in it.
Tonny52 wrote: 12 May 2021, 03:57 Responsiveness, compatibility, stability. Features I am fine losing. I mainly want the first three.
Windows 7 would be your stop for easy compatibility in the meantime, 8.1 if you want a light system and linux if you lean on stability more; but it really depends on you mostly, as i doubt this will convince you on making a decision by itself.

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Tonny52 wrote: 13 May 2021, 02:25
R3n wrote: 13 May 2021, 02:00
Tonny52 wrote: 13 May 2021, 01:46

So one thing I am wondering is that as of now 7 is still supported well as far as applications go. But as far as the future goes, we should be losing Electron and Chrome sometime in 2022, with security updates in 2024 (POSReady) and hardware too. I don't expect nvidia & AMD to support 7 on the 7000 series and the 4000 series, so I am not sure. I don't want to stick back with ancient hardware even if it is powerful, it isnt as energy effiecent.

I'm not sure. I like 7 because it checks all the boxes except for the longevity one, something that can sit there for years to come, without losing app support n such. Win10 for me is mainly annoying. I've talked with some friends who were Win7+XP fanboys their entire life, and they mentioned that they have accepted Windows 10 because Win7 is losing many compatibility support n such over the years and they have to accept the change and move on with life. I hate 10, but I don't know if moving things back to 7 is a good option.

I love 7, but its easier for those who have used it since its release date to say that it is still usable.
If you boost 7's marketshare, developers will support it for longer. 7000 and 4000 series could work on 7 if we show them that 7 is still a decent platform.
7 is definitely still a decent platform, but I don't know how 1-100 people switching to 7 would be enough to change the marketshare, when w7 stil lruns on a few hundred million PCs. Most of them being workplaces, but a majority still being normal consumers.

Still tho, Windows 7 still holds a marketshare of about 20% and i doubt that software developers will take the risk and miss out 20% of all PC users (potential customers) by dropping support for 7.

And regardless of how hopeless the situation is in keeping up the marketshare:

Never give up the fight! Every single device counts!

Just think of the scene in the movie "Braveheart" when a hand full of scotish farmers are about to fight against the most well organized, well trained, well equipped and well funded army of the world (at the time) the English.
Just go ahead and watch the scene if you havent.
You will see that we are in the EXACT SAME position at the moment just with legacy software battling big tech companies.
Just accepting the fact that 7 is "dead" and upgrading to 10 way too soon is not an option.
There is always a small chance that the next generation of software/hardware (although its very unlikely) will support 7 and we can only do our best in increasing that chance by having as many devices actively run 7 as possible.

Maybe we cant make Windows 7 live forever, but we can certainly do our best in extend its life by not upgrading and having as many devices run 7 as possible, because as long as the marketshare is at least at 15%, a lot of software developers (especially smaller 3rd party developers) wont take the risk of dropping support for 7.


Running away never did any good


Thats all i had to say...
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I guess it just depends on what view you look at. Definitely every device counts, but a counterclaim to that is if the person wants a longevity PC (something they can install, get updates for a while and features for the next 10+ years) Windows 10, 8.1 or Linux would obviously be a better choice. I have absolutely no problem with 7 or anything else. Windows 10 in my opinion is the worst, but there really isn't anything without a mass "upgrade" to 7 that would stop the inevitable death of 7 within this decade or longer. XP was very usable up until around 2016-2017, when most programs started dropping because Google did, which if 7 follows the same date, would end up putting 7 around 2023-2024. To be fair, XP did not have ESU updates, taking that into account it would leave 7 around 2025-2026. That is around 5 years of W7 life left. That is about the same time until LTSB 2015 and LTSB 2016 EOL / Server 2016.

What I am trying to say is that while I may be fine using 7 on my main desktops, I am not sure if 08 R1/R2 would fit well on my servers, because the servers would be rarely reinstalled, and I would need them to last a while. 08 Rx is supported with updates until January 10, 2023, a similar date to 2012 Rx which is October 10, 2023.

I suppose I will try it out. I just don't know if I should go all in on exterminating 10 from my computers.

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Tonny52 wrote: 13 May 2021, 12:47 I guess it just depends on what view you look at. Definitely every device counts, but a counterclaim to that is if the person wants a longevity PC (something they can install, get updates for a while and features for the next 10+ years) Windows 10, 8.1 or Linux would obviously be a better choice. I have absolutely no problem with 7 or anything else. Windows 10 in my opinion is the worst, but there really isn't anything without a mass "upgrade" to 7 that would stop the inevitable death of 7 within this decade or longer. XP was very usable up until around 2016-2017, when most programs started dropping because Google did, which if 7 follows the same date, would end up putting 7 around 2023-2024. To be fair, XP did not have ESU updates, taking that into account it would leave 7 around 2025-2026. That is around 5 years of W7 life left. That is about the same time until LTSB 2015 and LTSB 2016 EOL / Server 2016.

What I am trying to say is that while I may be fine using 7 on my main desktops, I am not sure if 08 R1/R2 would fit well on my servers, because the servers would be rarely reinstalled, and I would need them to last a while. 08 Rx is supported with updates until January 10, 2023, a similar date to 2012 Rx which is October 10, 2023.

I suppose I will try it out. I just don't know if I should go all in on exterminating 10 from my computers.
Yeah i understand your opinion and why having a longer supported OS is better in terms of software and longetivity.
You can use anything on your servers, i dont care.
But the point i am trying to make is that without a fight the OS is eventually gonna die very soon.
However if we fight for it, it will definitely last longer.
Without a fight and without some action and commitment nothing is gonna happen.
You said that Windows 7 is gonna be usable up until 2025 maybe.
But who knows if that will ever happen?
If everyone just upgrades it definitely never will, but if we stay strong and keep using our old stuff, it probably will last that long.
Yes Server 2008 may not be good for server usage anymore in the next few years, but at least trying your best and keeping it alive is worth the effort.

In Windows you can always easily upgrade, but never easily downgrade.
That is especially true for servers.
If '08 doesnt fit your uses anymore you can always upgrade to a newer version whenever you feel like it.


I am not trying to force you to anything an i am mainly adressing Desktop/Laptop home users who simply upgrade to 8.1/10 (ect.) without a real reason and just staing: "its newer."
All im saying here is why i think people should try and use software from the Windows 7 generation for as long as possible.
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I agree, the more that use it = the longer it will live. The only real reasons I use 7 is not because of itself, because of what it existed through. 7 is what people used through the early 2010s which is my favourite time period. Thats mainly why I use it right now.

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"Just accepting the fact that 7 is "dead" and upgrading to 10 way too soon is not an option."

Kinda like how no one expected the extended kernel for Vista, yet @win32 done it. Absolute fucking mastermind. Also worth mentioning is that I bet a 7 KernelEx could easily run those artificially blocked 8.x-10 applications in a similar vein :)

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So I'm moving that Precison system to 2012 R2, and I suddenly felt something.

When I opened the start menu, it had GPU drivers so I saw the fluent of 10. Honestly, in my opinion, I kind of prefer the more intense blur on 1803+. It suddenly made me feel something. How useful is LTSC 2019?

If its not a worthy option, is it possible to sort of increase the 7 blur intensity?

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