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Compatibility Mods :: Garden Life: A cozy simulator (tested on Windows 7) :: Author Mr. Dick

2026-08-18T14:20:34+00:00

You will need to hex edit or CFF Explorer edit GardenLife-Win64-Shipping.exe, and replace CreateFile2 with CreateFileW (located in kernel32.dll). So far, I've only been able to get it to work with DirectX 11. For DirectX 12, I tried the patch: https://github.com/Roti-Poulet/DirectX12On7, But from what I understand, it currently seems difficult to get modern Unreal Engine games to recognize DirectX 12 DLLs. That’s all for now.

Research Network :: Digital Mars C++ on Windows NT 3.1? :: Author 265 993 303

2026-07-23T22:10:55+00:00

Digital Mars C++ 8.57 (https://digitalmars.com/download/freecompiler.html) is almost perfect for legacy Win32 compatibility, it works in Windows NT 3.5 and up and Windows 95 and up, but it doesn't work in Windows NT 3.1, for both the compiler itself and applications compiled with it.

When compiling an empty program ("int main(){}"), the function FreeEnvironmentStringsA is missing. Declaring that function manually (such as BOOL WINAPI FreeEnvironmentStringsA(LPCH penv) {return 1;} ) allows the empty program to run, but when the printf function is used (such as int main(){printf("test");} ), the function GetStringTypeA is missing. Declaring a dummy function GetStringTypeA makes it work, but when the time() function is used (such as int main(){printf("test %d",time(NULL));} ), the function LCMapStringA is missing. That's at least three Windows NT 3.5 functions that the compiled programs are dependent on. However, when I compile the programs with -L/su:windows:4.0 to make it a non-console application, it specifies "Unexpected error: 11." when ran on Windows NT 3.1, even with the dummy functions thrown in, but it works in Windows NT 3.5.

It seems that the Windows NT 3.5 dependencies are embedded in snn.lib which is used during linking of programs compiled with Digital Mars. Searching for the Windows NT 3.5 functions (FreeEnvironmentStringsA, GetStringTypeA, LCMapStringA) within the snn.lib file reveals the source code files that contain those functions (for example the string "FreeEnvironmentStringsA" occurs at 0000098C, but at some point before, the string "..\core32\cinit.asm" occurs at 00000704, and the FreeEnvironmentStringsA function is indeed embedded in https://github.com/DigitalMars/dmc/blob/master/src/CORE32/cinit.asm ). So if the library functions could be rewritten to not use the Windows NT 3.5 functions, the snn.lib could be recompiled from source to be Windows NT 3.1 compatible (therefore allowing compiled applications to run in Windows NT 3.1), and the compiler itself could also be recompiled from source to run on Windows NT 3.1. However, more research is needed to figure out how to compile the snn.lib file and the compiler itself.

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-20T14:44:42+00:00

Okay @Duke, how 'bout this one?

Pluto TV is a free streaming site that often times has an issue with the audio and video falling out of sync.
Here: https://pluto.tv/us/live-tv
ie, the lip movement no longer matches the timing of the speech.
One fix is to wait for a commercial break, switch to a different channel, then switch back so that everything is back in sync.

My long-term fix has become the below userscript.
It synchronizes the audio and video every two seconds and accounts for any dropped frames.
ie, by adjusting video playback speed so slightly that "humans" can't even detect the difference.
Basically think of "negative feedback" systems where the system "tunes itself" by speeding up or slowing down.

// ==UserScript==
// @name - Add Pluto TV Advanced A/V Sync Fix
// @version 2.0.1
// @match *://pluto.tv/*
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==

(function () {
'use strict';

// Configurable settings
const CHECK_INTERVAL_MS = 2000; // How often to check sync
const MAX_ALLOWED_DRIFT = 0.3; // Seconds before correction
const RATE_ADJUST_STEP = 0.02; // Small rate change for smooth correction
const MAX_RATE = 1.05; // Max playback rate allowed
const MIN_RATE = 0.95; // Min playback rate allowed

function findVideoElement() {
return document.querySelector('video');
}

function syncCheck() {
const video = findVideoElement();
if (!video || video.readyState < 2 || video.paused) return;

try {
// Drift detection
const now = performance.now();
if (!video._lastCheck) {
video._lastCheck = now;
video._lastTime = video.currentTime;
video._lastDropped = 0;
return;
}

const elapsedReal = (now - video._lastCheck) / 1000; // seconds
const elapsedVideo = video.currentTime - video._lastTime;
const drift = elapsedVideo - elapsedReal;

// Dropped frame detection (if supported)
let droppedFrames = 0;
if (typeof video.getVideoPlaybackQuality === 'function') {
const quality = video.getVideoPlaybackQuality();
droppedFrames = quality.droppedVideoFrames || 0;
}

const droppedSinceLast = droppedFrames - (video._lastDropped || 0);

// Log for debugging
console.log(`[PlutoTV Sync] Drift: ${drift.toFixed(3)}s, Dropped: ${droppedSinceLast}`);

// Correction logic
if (Math.abs(drift) > MAX_ALLOWED_DRIFT) {
// Large drift — jump to correct
console.warn(`[PlutoTV Sync] Large drift detected (${drift.toFixed(3)}s) — seeking`);
video.currentTime -= drift; // Jump back/forward
video.playbackRate = 1;
} else if (Math.abs(drift) > 0.05 || droppedSinceLast > 5) {
// Small drift or frame loss — adjust rate
if (drift > 0) {
// Video ahead of real time — slow down
video.playbackRate = Math.max(MIN_RATE, video.playbackRate - RATE_ADJUST_STEP);
} else {
// Video behind — speed up
video.playbackRate = Math.min(MAX_RATE, video.playbackRate + RATE_ADJUST_STEP);
}
} else {
// In sync — reset rate
if (video.playbackRate !== 1) {
video.playbackRate = 1;
}
}

// Save state for next check
video._lastCheck = now;
video._lastTime = video.currentTime;
video._lastDropped = droppedFrames;

} catch (err) {
console.error('[PlutoTV Sync] Error:', err);
}
}

// Wait for video to appear, then start checking
const observer = new MutationObserver(() => {
if (findVideoElement()) {
console.log('[PlutoTV Sync] Video element found — starting advanced sync checks');
clearInterval(window._plutoSyncInterval);
window._plutoSyncInterval = setInterval(syncCheck, CHECK_INTERVAL_MS);
observer.disconnect();
}
});

observer.observe(document.body, { childList: true, subtree: true });
})();

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-20T18:33:42+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑20 Jul 2026, 14:44 Okay @Duke, how 'bout this one?
Pluto TV is a free streaming site that often times has an issue with the audio and video falling out of sync.

I'm not using Pluto TV a lot but when I do I'm not experiencing audio/video sync issues.

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-07-20T22:01:36+00:00

I'm on Pluto TV now without any issues at all with Lun3r and Hydra!

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-20T22:50:16+00:00

The sync issues only occur if you do not change the channel for SIX HOURS.
Keep it on the same exact channel and watch non-stop for SIX HOURS.
Some channels will unsync if watched non-stop long enough.
I can't say that they "all" do.

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-20T23:04:39+00:00

Although, granted, is it unsyncing for me at SIX HOURS ?
Or is it unyncing for me because I have THREE PLUS streams all going simultaneously ?

Regardless, my userscripts KEEPS EVERYTHING IN SYNC

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-21T01:44:39+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑20 Jul 2026, 23:04 Or is it unyncing for me because I have THREE PLUS streams all going simultaneously ?

I guess so

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-21T07:04:50+00:00

Upon further compare/contrast, the unsync issue is only occurring on ONE of my many computers.
And it occurs in both Chrome-based *AND* in Mozilla-based.
This is also one of my last two computers still on Win10 *2016* despite 2019 or 21H2 being used on all other computers with *VAST IMPROVEMENTS*.
This one is set to be upgraded soon.
It's a Dell Latitude E5470 laptop with an Intel i5-6300U @ 2.4GHz with 8GB RAM.
Don't recall graphics card offhand.

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-21T07:17:59+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑19 Jul 2026, 10:24 Today's Outrage -- cookie banner notifications.

// ==UserScript==
// @name - Auto Hide Cookie Banners

This one has become a GODSEND for a totally different reason.
I am now using it to block all of the d@mn "AI" popups/banners/mogals/modules/chatbots that keep showing up at every turn on the internet.

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-21T10:16:32+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑21 Jul 2026, 07:04 Upon further compare/contrast, the unsync issue is only occurring on ONE of my many computers.
And it occurs in both Chrome-based *AND* in Mozilla-based.

Additional finding.
It only unsyncs when MUTED for 1/2hr to an hour at a time and then only after five or six of those long-duration mutings.
Each muting seems to unsync a tiny teany bit and they add up over time.

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-21T12:02:58+00:00

This seems to do the trick. Always resync whenever any video is unmuted. Resync is forced by causing a slight pause/resume.

// ==UserScript==
// @name - Add Sync Video on Unmute
// @version 1.0.1
// @match *://*/*
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==

(function () {
'use strict';

/**
* Resyncs a video by briefly pausing and resuming it.
* This can help fix A/V desync issues after unmuting.
*/
function resyncVideo(video) {
try {
if (!video.paused) {
const currentTime = video.currentTime;
video.pause();
// Small delay to allow browser to flush buffers
setTimeout(() => {
video.currentTime = currentTime; // Ensure position stays the same
video.play().catch(err => {
console.warn('Video play failed after resync:', err);
});
}, 100);
}
} catch (err) {
console.error('Error during video resync:', err);
}
}

/**
* Observe all videos on the page and attach unmute listeners.
*/
function attachListeners(video) {
if (video.dataset.syncListenerAttached) return; // Avoid duplicates
video.dataset.syncListenerAttached = 'true';

video.addEventListener('volumechange', () => {
if (!video.muted && video.volume > 0) {
console.log('Video unmuted — resyncing...');
resyncVideo(video);
}
});
}

/**
* Scan for videos periodically (for dynamically loaded content).
*/
function scanForVideos() {
document.querySelectorAll('video').forEach(attachListeners);
}

// Initial scan
scanForVideos();

// Observe DOM changes for dynamically added videos
const observer = new MutationObserver(scanForVideos);
observer.observe(document.body, { childList: true, subtree: true });

})();

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-21T14:00:23+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑21 Jul 2026, 10:16 Additional finding.
It only unsyncs when MUTED for 1/2hr to an hour at a time and then only after five or six of those long-duration mutings.
Each muting seems to unsync a tiny teany bit and they add up over time.

Good to know, I'll check that...someday

Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-18T11:19:54+00:00

This was a fun one.
My own "ad blocker", sort of.

Some video streaming sites have no way to block the commercials / ad-breaks.
I used to be able to "target" these by their "1 of 4 ads" type of overlays, but most no longer use those.

So I'm now using a userscript that adds a hidden-until-hover "Blackout" button.
Click it and the entire screen goes dark with the exception of a "peek window" and a cancel button.
Variables are used to set the opacity from a translucent overlay to full opaque (I prefer full opaque).
The "peek" window can be set to no overlay at all for the window to the opacity level of the full overlay.
The audio is automatically muted and returns to original state.
ie, if you were already muted, it stays muted. And if you were listening to the audio, it mutes, counts down, then unmutes.
It aslo unmutes (if you were listening when engaged) when the cancel button is manually engaged.

It assumes a 3-minute commercial break.
Breaks it down into six 30-second segments (the first is set at 27 seconds, basically assuming it took the user 3 seconds to manually engage).
The cancel button changes color every 30 seconds and includes a countdown timer.
The times are set by variables, you can set all six to 15 seconds and assume a 90-second overall commercial break if you prefer.
The "peek" window allows you to cancel the overlay if you "see" [via less nuanced peeking] that the commercial break didn't last the full 3 minutes.

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// ==UserScript==
// @name - Add - Video - List - Blackout Overlay Button
// @version 3.9.1
// @match *://pluto.tv/*
// @match *://popcornflix.com/*
// @match *://tubitv.com/*
// @match *://watch.plex.tv/*
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==

(function () {
    'use strict';

    /*** CONFIGURATION ***/
    const SEGMENT_TIMES = [27, 30, 30, 30, 30, 30]; // seconds for each of the 6 segments
    const HOLE_RADIUS = 40; // pixels
    const HOLE_FADE = 40; // pixels
    const OVERLAY_OPACITY = 1.0; // 0.0 (transparent) to 1.0 (fully opaque)
    const HOLE_OPACITY = 0.4; // 0.0 (fully transparent hole) to 1.0 (same as overlay)
    const CANCEL_COLORS = [
        '#dc3545',  // red
        '#fd7e14',  // orange
        '#ffc107',  // yellow
        '#28a745',  // green
        '#17a2b8',  // blue
        '#6f42c1'   // purple
    ]; // one color per segment

    /*** Helper: Pad seconds to two digits ***/
    function padSeconds(sec) {
        return sec.toString().padStart(2, '0');
    }

    function init() {
        let hideTimeout, countdownInterval;
        let currentSegmentIndex = 0;
        let segmentRemaining = SEGMENT_TIMES[0];
        let originalMuteStates = new WeakMap(), originalMuteStatusText = '';

        // Hover detection area (moved to top right)
        const hoverArea = document.createElement('div');
        hoverArea.style.cssText = `
            background: transparent;
            height: 37px;
            position: fixed;
                right: 20px;
                top: 20px;
            width: 84px;
            z-index: 2147483647;
        `;

        // Main "Blackout" button (moved to top right)
        const btn = document.createElement('button');
        //btn.textContent = `Show Overlay (${SEGMENT_TIMES.reduce((a,b)=>a+b,0)}s)`;
        btn.textContent = `Blackout`;
        btn.style.cssText = `
            background: #222;
            border: none;
            border-radius: 5px;
            color: #fff;
            cursor: pointer;
            font-size: 14px;
            opacity: 0;
            padding: 10px 15px;
            pointer-events: none;
            position: fixed;
                right: 20px;
                top: 20px;
            z-index: 2147483647;
        `;

        // Overlay with adjustable center hole opacity and faded border
        const overlay = document.createElement('div');
        overlay.style.cssText = `
            background-color: rgba(0,0,0,${OVERLAY_OPACITY});
            display: none;
            height: 100%;
            mask-image: radial-gradient(
                circle ${HOLE_RADIUS + HOLE_FADE}px at 50% 50%,
                rgba(0,0,0,${HOLE_OPACITY}) ${HOLE_RADIUS}px,
                rgba(0,0,0,1) ${HOLE_RADIUS + HOLE_FADE}px);
            mask-position: center;
            mask-repeat: no-repeat;
            pointer-events: auto;
            position: fixed;
                left: 0;
                top: 0;
            width: 100%;
            z-index: 2147483646;
        `;

        // Cancel button inside the hole
        const cancelBtn = document.createElement('button');
        cancelBtn.style.cssText = `
            background: ${CANCEL_COLORS[0]};
            border: none;
            border-radius: 8px;
            color: #fff;
            cursor: pointer;
            display: none;
            font-family: monospace;
            font-size: 12px;
            line-height: 0.8;
            max-width: ${HOLE_RADIUS * 1.5}px;
            padding: 4px;
            position: fixed;
                left: 50%;
                top: 50%;
            text-align: center;
            transform: translate(-50%,-50%);
            white-space: pre-line;
            z-index: 2147483648;
        `;

        function showButton() {
            clearTimeout(hideTimeout);
            btn.style.opacity = '1';
            btn.style.pointerEvents = 'auto';
        }
        function hideButton() {
            hideTimeout = setTimeout(() => {
                btn.style.opacity = '0';
                btn.style.pointerEvents = 'none';
            }, 0);
        }
        function handleAudioOnOverlayStart() {
            let anyUnmuted = false;
            document.querySelectorAll('audio, video').forEach(el => {
                originalMuteStates.set(el, el.muted);
                if (!el.muted) { anyUnmuted = true; el.muted = true; }
            });
            originalMuteStatusText = anyUnmuted ? 'Unmuted' : 'Muted';
        }
        function handleAudioOnOverlayEnd() {
            document.querySelectorAll('audio, video').forEach(el => {
                if (originalMuteStates.has(el)) {
                    el.muted = originalMuteStates.get(el);
                }
            });
        }
        function updateCancelButtonText() {
            cancelBtn.textContent = `${padSeconds(segmentRemaining)}\n\n${currentSegmentIndex + 1} of ${SEGMENT_TIMES.length}\n\n${originalMuteStatusText}`;
        }
        function startOverlay() {
            handleAudioOnOverlayStart();
            currentSegmentIndex = 0;
            segmentRemaining = SEGMENT_TIMES[0];
            cancelBtn.style.background = CANCEL_COLORS[0];
            updateCancelButtonText();
            overlay.style.display = 'block';
            cancelBtn.style.display = 'block';

            countdownInterval = setInterval(() => {
                segmentRemaining--;

                if (segmentRemaining <= 0) {
                    currentSegmentIndex++;
                    if (currentSegmentIndex >= SEGMENT_TIMES.length) {
                        stopOverlay();
                        return;
                    }
                    segmentRemaining = SEGMENT_TIMES[currentSegmentIndex];
                    cancelBtn.style.background = CANCEL_COLORS[currentSegmentIndex % CANCEL_COLORS.length];
                }

                updateCancelButtonText();
            }, 1000);
        }
        function stopOverlay() {
            overlay.style.display = 'none';
            cancelBtn.style.display = 'none';
            clearInterval(countdownInterval);
            handleAudioOnOverlayEnd();
        }

        hoverArea.addEventListener('mouseenter', showButton);
        hoverArea.addEventListener('mouseleave', hideButton);
        btn.addEventListener('mouseenter', showButton);
        btn.addEventListener('mouseleave', hideButton);
        btn.addEventListener('click', startOverlay);
        cancelBtn.addEventListener('click', stopOverlay);

        document.body.appendChild(hoverArea);
        document.body.appendChild(btn);
        document.body.appendChild(overlay);
        document.body.appendChild(cancelBtn);
    }

    if (document.readyState === 'loading') {
        document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', init);
    } else {
        init();
    }
})();

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Browsers :: User Scripts :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-18T12:28:32+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Aug 2026, 11:19 My own "ad blocker", sort of.
Some video streaming sites have no way to block the commercials / ad-breaks.
I used to be able to "target" these by their "1 of 4 ads" type of overlays, but most no longer use those.
So I'm now using a userscript that adds a hidden-until-hover "Blackout" button.
Click it and the entire screen goes dark with the exception of a "peek window" and a cancel button.

Useful, thanks

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-20T14:41:50+00:00

Firefox 115.38.0 ESR has been released:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.38.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.38.0/releasenotes/

Many security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2026-69/

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-18T18:46:29+00:00

Firefox 115.39.0 ESR is out:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.39.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.39.0/releasenotes/

Security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2026-75/

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by JodyThornton

2026-08-18T19:28:36+00:00

I tested it thoroughly on all of the sites I regularly use for banking and everything else on Windows 8. It works. I ditched ESR 115 back in 2023 because at the time, my health benefits were with Canada Life, and that site would not load ... but now, I don't use that site.

This all to say is I'm backing up my profile (being currently used with ESR 140.0.11 Nightly by e3k-etc) and going back to ESR 115 until at least March 2027. Nice to leave e3k-etc and r3dFox in the dust, and go with a more reliable release schedule.

Operating System Customization :: WebCache ::: File Size :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-07-29T16:11:35+00:00

Directory of C:\Users\%UserName%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache

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Directory of C:\Users\%UserName%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache

2026/07/28,Τρι  07:43             8.192 V01.chk
2026/07/28,Τρι  13:31           524.288 V01.log
2026/07/19,Κυρ  10:06           524.288 V0100083.log
2025/05/24,Σαβ  18:36           524.288 V01res00001.jrs
2025/05/24,Σαβ  18:36           524.288 V01res00002.jrs
2026/07/28,Τρι  13:31        21.037.056 WebCacheV01.dat
2026/07/28,Τρι  13:31           524.288 WebCacheV01.tmp
               7 File(s)     23.666.688 bytes

     Total Files Listed:
               7 File(s)     23.666.688 bytes

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In my (Windows 7 U x64) PC, found the registry KEYs below:

1) HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}
2) HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}
        AppID REG_SZ {3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683

3) HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}[/
4) HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}
        AppID REG_SZ {3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}

5) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}
6) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}
        AppID REG_SZ {3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}

7) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}
8) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}
        AppID REG_SZ {3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}

9) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}
10) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}
        AppID REG_SZ {3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}

* but I think when delete the first 2, the rest disappears.

Tips:

[0] Searching a registry KEY through (admin) Command Prompt. (REG QUERY /?)

1)  > 
 REG QUERY HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\ /f {3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}
 :  HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}
    End of search: 1 match(es) found.

2)  > 
 REG QUERY HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148} /f {3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}
 :  HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}
    AppID    REG_SZ    {3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}
    End of search: 1 match(es) found.

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[1] Backup a registry KEY through (admin) Command Prompt. (REG EXPORT /?)

(for 1st founded) > 
 reg EXPORT HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683} "%UserProfile%\Desktop\AppID(1)[backup].reg"

(for 2nd founded) > 
 reg EXPORT HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148} "%UserProfile%\Desktop\AppID(2)[backup].reg"

(for 3rd, and so goes on)...

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Delete a registry KEY through (admin) Command Prompt. (REG DELETE /?)

We CANNOT delete those registry KEYs unless we get Admin Owner & Permissions!
> reg DELETE HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683} /f
: ERROR: Access is denied.

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[2] How to get Registry Admin Owner & Permissions using Command Prompt:

Download the "SetACL.exe", copy it where the Command Prompt or Batch file.cmd starts from.

1. Download, (extrat it if it's in .zip) and place it on Desktop.
Then Copy it to C:\Windows\System32 (by cmd or manually)
(eg.: copy "%UserProfile%\Desktop\SetACL.exe" "%SystemRoot%\System32\SetACL.exe")

2. Open a Command Prompt (as Administrator) and type the followings.

 > cd %SystemRoot%\System32

   :: Take Owner & Permissions 
   :: Here set the HKEY path (after the equal sign _HKEY=here\place\the\path )
 > set "_HKEY=HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}"

   :: Take Owner
 > SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
 : Processing ACL of: 
   SetACL finished successfully. 

   :: Take Permissions 
 > SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes
 : Processing ACL of: 
   SetACL finished successfully.

Done! Now you can edit/rename or delete the KEY.

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How to get Registry Admin Owner & Permissions using a Batch.cmd:

[3] Make everything in one batch.cmd automatically

This batch should work on every Windows version from 7 and over. (because is Command Prompt!)

        The following batch will make everything automatically:
		* Check for all "WebCache" AppIDs if they are exist in the registry,
		* Get Reg Keys Admin Owner & Permissions,
		* Backup All AppID reg KEYs into a folder,
		* and then Delete all of them from registry.

All files backups will be created, so you can revert any time back to previous states,
by double clicking any of the .reg files created, in the [BACKUPS]_WebCache folder.

	Just Follow the steps:

Download the "SetACL.exe", copy it where the Command Prompt or Batch file.cmd starts from.

1. Download, (extrat it if it's in .zip) and place it on Desktop.
Then Copy it to "C:\Users\%UserName%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache" folder. (by cmd or manually)
(eg.: copy "%UserProfile%\Desktop\SetACL.exe" "C:\Users\%UserName%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache\SetACL.exe")

2. Make the Batch.cmd file.

	a. Copy-Paste the following CODE into a New text.txt file and save it,
	b. Rename it as Backup_Everything_and_Delete_AppIDs.cmd  and,
		( if you can't see the .txt file extensions, enable file extensions:
		  File menu > Tools > Folder Options > View (tab) > 
		    [Uncheck] "Hide extensions for known file types" )
	c. Place it in the "C:\Users\%UserName%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache" folder.
	d. Run it (double click it).

Backup_Everything_and_Delete_AppIDs.cmd

Code: Select all

@echo off
mode con: cols=120 lines=999 & color 1f
SetLocal EnableExtensions
:: Support any foreign language or ASCII character
%SystemRoot%\System32\chcp.com 65001 >nul
set Line=________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
echo.
echo.  All files backups will be created, so you can revert any time back to previous states,
echo. by double clicking any of the .reg files created, in the [BACKUPS]_WebCache folder.
echo.
echo. Close this window to EXIT, or 
pause

echo.%line%
echo. Current Drive\and\Path: "%~dp0"

:: Making forler for (.reg) files Backups. 
mkdir "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache" >nul 2>&1
echo.

echo.%line%
:1st AppID KEY REG BACKUP
::Set "HKEY_..." _abreviation.  Check if original existed else go to next.
reg query "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}" >nul 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	set "_HKEY=HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}"
) else (
	goto :2nd
)
echo.  - Reg KEY [%_HKEY%]
echo.    A backup will be created to the folder: 
echo.    %~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache
echo.    AppID(1st)(default).reg &&echo.
::Take Owner & Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
echo.  Administrators Ownership have been gained. 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
echo.  Administrators Permissions have been gained. &&echo.
::Export all subkeys and values of the pointed "HKEY_..." to a .reg 
REG EXPORT %_HKEY% "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache\AppID(1st)(default).reg"
::Remove "HKEY_..." and all its subkeys and values
REG DELETE %_HKEY% /f
echo.  The (default) HKEY_... have been deleted from registry. &&echo.

echo.%line%
:2nd AppID KEY REG BACKUP
::Set "HKEY_..." _abreviation.  Check if original existed else go to next.
reg query "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}" >nul 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	set "_HKEY=HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}"
) else (
	goto :3rd
)
echo.  - Reg KEY [%_HKEY%]
echo.    A backup will be created to the folder: 
echo.    %~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache
echo.    AppID(2nd)(default).reg &&echo.
::Take Owner & Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
echo.  Administrators Ownership have been gained. 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
echo.  Administrators Permissions have been gained. &&echo.
::Export all subkeys and values of the pointed "HKEY_..." to a .reg 
REG EXPORT %_HKEY% "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache\AppID(2nd)(default).reg"
::Remove "HKEY_..." and all its subkeys and values
REG DELETE %_HKEY% /f
echo.  The (default) HKEY_... have been deleted from registry. &&echo.

echo.%line%
:3rd AppID KEY REG BACKUP
::Set "HKEY_..." _abreviation.  Check if original existed else go to next.
reg query "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}" >nul 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	set "_HKEY=HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}"
) else (
	goto :4th
)
echo.  - Reg KEY [%_HKEY%]
echo.    A backup will be created to the folder: 
echo.    %~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache
echo.    AppID(3rd)(default).reg &&echo.
::Take Owner & Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
echo.  Administrators Ownership have been gained. 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
echo.  Administrators Permissions have been gained. &&echo.
::Export all subkeys and values of the pointed "HKEY_..." to a .reg 
REG EXPORT %_HKEY% "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache\AppID(3rd)(default).reg"
::Remove "HKEY_..." and all its subkeys and values
REG DELETE %_HKEY% /f
echo.  The (default) HKEY_... have been deleted from registry. &&echo.

echo.%line%
:4th AppID KEY REG BACKUP
::Set "HKEY_..." _abreviation.  Check if original existed else go to next.
reg query "HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}" >nul 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	set "_HKEY=HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}"
) else (
	goto :5th
)
echo.  - Reg KEY [%_HKEY%]
echo.    A backup will be created to the folder: 
echo.    %~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache
echo.    AppID(4th)(default).reg &&echo.
::Take Owner & Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
echo.  Administrators Ownership have been gained. 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
echo.  Administrators Permissions have been gained. &&echo.
::Export all subkeys and values of the pointed "HKEY_..." to a .reg 
REG EXPORT %_HKEY% "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache\AppID(4th)(default).reg"
::Remove "HKEY_..." and all its subkeys and values
REG DELETE %_HKEY% /f
echo.  The (default) HKEY_... have been deleted from registry. &&echo.

echo.%line%
:5th AppID KEY REG BACKUP
::Set "HKEY_..." _abreviation.  Check if original existed else go to next.
reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}" >nul 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	set "_HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}"
) else (
	goto :6th
)
echo.  - Reg KEY [%_HKEY%]
echo.    A backup will be created to the folder: 
echo.    %~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache
echo.    AppID(5th)(default).reg &&echo.
::Take Owner & Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
echo.  Administrators Ownership have been gained. 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
echo.  Administrators Permissions have been gained. &&echo.
::Export all subkeys and values of the pointed "HKEY_..." to a .reg 
REG EXPORT %_HKEY% "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache\AppID(5th)(default).reg"
::Remove "HKEY_..." and all its subkeys and values
REG DELETE %_HKEY% /f
echo.  The (default) HKEY_... have been deleted from registry. &&echo.

echo.%line%
:6th AppID KEY REG BACKUP
::Set "HKEY_..." _abreviation.  Check if original existed else go to next.
reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}" >nul 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	set "_HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}"
) else (
	goto :7th
)
echo.  - Reg KEY [%_HKEY%]
echo.    A backup will be created to the folder: 
echo.    %~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache
echo.    AppID(6th)(default).reg &&echo.
::Take Owner & Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
echo.  Administrators Ownership have been gained. 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
echo.  Administrators Permissions have been gained. &&echo.
::Export all subkeys and values of the pointed "HKEY_..." to a .reg 
REG EXPORT %_HKEY% "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache\AppID(6th)(default).reg"
::Remove "HKEY_..." and all its subkeys and values
REG DELETE %_HKEY% /f
echo.  The (default) HKEY_... have been deleted from registry. &&echo.

echo.%line%
:7th AppID KEY REG BACKUP
::Set "HKEY_..." _abreviation.  Check if original existed else go to next.
reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}" >nul 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	set "_HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}"
) else (
	goto :8th
)
echo.  - Reg KEY [%_HKEY%]
echo.    A backup will be created to the folder: 
echo.    %~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache
echo.    AppID(7th)(default).reg &&echo.
::Take Owner & Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
echo.  Administrators Ownership have been gained. 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
echo.  Administrators Permissions have been gained. &&echo.
::Export all subkeys and values of the pointed "HKEY_..." to a .reg 
REG EXPORT %_HKEY% "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache\AppID(7th)(default).reg"
::Remove "HKEY_..." and all its subkeys and values
REG DELETE %_HKEY% /f
echo.  The (default) HKEY_... have been deleted from registry. &&echo.

echo.%line%
:8th AppID KEY REG BACKUP
::Set "HKEY_..." _abreviation.  Check if original existed else go to next.
reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}" >nul 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	set "_HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}"
) else (
	goto :9th
)
echo.  - Reg KEY [%_HKEY%]
echo.    A backup will be created to the folder: 
echo.    %~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache
echo.    AppID(8th)(default).reg &&echo.
::Take Owner & Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
echo.  Administrators Ownership have been gained. 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
echo.  Administrators Permissions have been gained. &&echo.
::Export all subkeys and values of the pointed "HKEY_..." to a .reg 
REG EXPORT %_HKEY% "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache\AppID(8th)(default).reg"
::Remove "HKEY_..." and all its subkeys and values
REG DELETE %_HKEY% /f
echo.  The (default) HKEY_... have been deleted from registry. &&echo.

echo.%line%
:9th AppID KEY REG BACKUP
::Set "HKEY_..." _abreviation.  Check if original existed else go to next.
reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}" >nul 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	set "_HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\AppID\{3eb3c877-1f16-487c-9050-104dbcd66683}"
) else (
	goto :10th
)
echo.  - Reg KEY [%_HKEY%]
echo.    A backup will be created to the folder: 
echo.    %~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache
echo.    AppID(9th)(default).reg &&echo.
::Take Owner & Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
echo.  Administrators Ownership have been gained. 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
echo.  Administrators Permissions have been gained. &&echo.
::Export all subkeys and values of the pointed "HKEY_..." to a .reg 
REG EXPORT %_HKEY% "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache\AppID(9th)(default).reg"
::Remove "HKEY_..." and all its subkeys and values
REG DELETE %_HKEY% /f
echo.  The (default) HKEY_... have been deleted from registry. &&echo.

echo.%line%
:10th AppID KEY REG BACKUP
::Set "HKEY_..." _abreviation.  Check if original existed else go to next.
reg query "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}" >nul 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	set "_HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{0358b920-0ac7-461f-98f4-58e32cd89148}"
) else (
	goto :Done
)
echo.  - Reg KEY [%_HKEY%]
echo.    A backup will be created to the folder: 
echo.    %~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache
echo.    AppID(10th)(default).reg &&echo.
::Take Owner & Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes
echo.  Administrators Ownership have been gained. 
SetACL.exe -on %_HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
echo.  Administrators Permissions have been gained. &&echo.
::Export all subkeys and values of the pointed "HKEY_..." to a .reg 
REG EXPORT %_HKEY% "%~dp0[BACKUPS]_WebCache\AppID(10th)(default).reg"
::Remove "HKEY_..." and all its subkeys and values
REG DELETE %_HKEY% /f
echo.  The (default) HKEY_... have been deleted from registry. &&echo.

echo.%line%
:Done
echo.&&echo.Well Done! &&echo.
echo.Press any key to EXIT...
pause >nul
exit
:: AntonyMan - https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?t=955

Also, I copied the "WebCache" folder to the "[BACKUPS]_WebCache" folder, and then I deleted all files inside the original "WebCache" folder.
( deleted all files except of the "..\WebCache\[BACKUPS]_WebCache" folder ofcourse.)
With this way, everything is backed up (just in case), the "AppID" is disabled, and the PC is clean.
"C:\Users\%UserName%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache\[BACKUPS]_WebCache"

Operating System Customization :: WebCache ::: File Size :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-29T21:25:38+00:00

AntonyMan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 16:11 Directory of C:\Users\%UserName%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WebCache

highlight=black ?

Highlight1.png

Result:

Highlight2.png

Black background is making the text very hard to read, what's the point ?

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Operating System Customization :: WebCache ::: File Size :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-07-29T21:45:11+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 21:25 highlight=black ?
Black background is making the text very hard to read, what's the point ?

Oh! Sorry.
I can't stand the bright white. I can't understand how the others do.
I did what I could with those formation tools.
Why dark background is not supported?

I'm using Dark Reader. If you enable Dark background you will see the black highlighted normally.

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Operating System Customization :: WebCache ::: File Size :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-29T21:47:07+00:00

AntonyMan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 21:45 I can't stand the bright white.

There are many colors between white and black

AntonyMan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 21:45 If you enable Dark background you will see the black highlighted normally.

Sorry but I'm using the default style of this forum which is named: aero.
It's not white, it's light blue.

AntonyMan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 21:45 Why dark background is not supported?

However, it seems to work fine with DVGFX styles.

Operating System Customization :: WebCache ::: File Size :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-07-29T22:04:27+00:00

There are many colors between white and black

I wanted to point out that these are command lines. (Command Prompt)
But here there is no possibility (I think) to change the color of the fonts, right?
Neither a tool to use "inline code", right?

Operating System Customization :: WebCache ::: File Size :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-07-29T22:23:36+00:00

For any other "Dark friend" (lol):
Also for the pages that don't allow you to change the blindingly bright white, I've made this a button in the bookmarks toolbar:
(I save it as a Bookmark)
Name: Invert-Colors(Dark-mode)
URL: javascript:(function(){var el = typeof viewer !== 'undefined' ? viewer : document.body; el.style.filter = 'grayscale(0) invert(1) sepia(0) brightness(80%) contrast(80%)';})()

Operating System Customization :: WebCache ::: File Size :: Reply by 265 993 303

2026-07-29T22:26:53+00:00

AntonyMan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 22:04
There are many colors between white and black
I wanted to point out that these are command lines. (Command Prompt)
But here there is no possibility (I think) to change the color of the fonts, right?
Neither a tool to use "inline code", right?

It is already possible to use 'color' tag for foreground with 'highlight' for background, for example:

xyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxy
xyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxy
xyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxy
xyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxy

Unfortunately it displays incorrectly for multiline text, even when using pre tag, since 'line-height: 1.4em;' is set, which distorts the font metrics.

The colors can also be set to system theme colors as demonstrated in https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=5414#p5414 . However, the terminal colors are generally not part of the system theme.

Operating System Customization :: WebCache ::: File Size :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-07-29T22:45:00+00:00

It is already possible to use 'color' tag for foreground with 'highlight' for background, for example:
xyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxy
xyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxy
xyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxy
xyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxyxy

Thanks a lot! I fixed it.

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Windows 7 Extended Kernel :: Reply by luk3Z

2026-07-26T07:26:05+00:00

Version1.2.1.2229 (5 days ago)

https://github.com/i486/VxKex/releases

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Registry tweaking guide for Windows 7 :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-07-31T20:57:54+00:00

How to Searching a registry KEY through (admin) Command Prompt. (REG QUERY /?)

REG QUERY "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\SpyNet" /f SpyNetReporting

----------
How to get Registry Admin Owner & Permissions using Command Prompt & "SetACL.exe":

Download the "SetACL.exe", copy it where the Command Prompt or Batch file.cmd starts from.
1. Download, (extrat it if it's in .zip) and place it on Desktop.
Then Copy it to C:\Windows\System32 (by cmd or manually)
(eg.: copy "%UserProfile%\Desktop\SetACL.exe" "%SystemRoot%\System32\SetACL.exe")

2. Open a Command Prompt (as Administrator) and type the followings.

cd %SystemRoot%\System32

:: Here set the HKEY path (after the equal sign HKEY=here\place\the\path )
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\SpyNet"

:: Take Owner
SetACL.exe -on %HKEY% -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes

:: Take Permissions
SetACL.exe -on %HKEY% -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes

Done! Now you can edit/rename or delete the KEY.

----------
How to Backup a registry KEY through (admin) Command Prompt. (REG EXPORT /?)

:: export the key as .reg file on Desktop directory.
reg export "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\SpyNet" "%UserProfile%\Desktop\SpyNetReporting(64).reg"

----------
How to change (by overwriting) a registry KEY through (admin) Command Prompt. (REG ADD /?)

reg ADD "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\SpyNet" /v "SpyNetReporting" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Registry tweaking guide for Windows 7 :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-08-02T09:59:02+00:00

It's not like that, it's more that if I try to apply it through a reg file it fails with permission issue, however applying it through regedit has no issues. So idk what to do about it.

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Registry tweaking guide for Windows 7 :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-02T13:09:12+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑02 Aug 2026, 09:59 if I try to apply it through a reg file it fails with permission issue, however applying it through regedit has no issues. So idk what to do about it.

For the record, NirSoft to the rescue:
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/advanced_run.html

To solve the .reg files issue it can be run through the Explorer context menu. And it can be very useful in many other cases

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Registry tweaking guide for Windows 7 :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-08-02T13:27:03+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑02 Aug 2026, 09:59 It's not like that, it's more that if I try to apply it through a reg file it fails with permission issue, however applying it through regedit has no issues. So idk what to do about it.

I tested it to my Win7U x64 and works without problems. I checked also manually from regedit to see if indeed worked and was ok.
What's the errors messages?

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Registry tweaking guide for Windows 7 :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-08-02T13:30:27+00:00

Try the following. (full automated... with prompt menu options. )

Disable_Telemetry[W7].cmd
Based on op's the_r3dacted info.

The following battch needs the "SetACL.exe" to get Permissions.
Download the "SetACL.exe", copy it where the Command Prompt or Batch file.cmd starts from.
Download, (extrat it if it's in .zip) and place it on Desktop.
Then Copy it in the same directory with batch.

Save it as Disable_Telemetry[W7].cmd

Code: Select all

@echo off&mode.com 130,999&title Disable_Telemetry[W7]
SetLocal EnableExtensions EnableDelayedExpansion
:: Support any foreign language or ASCII character (Unicode)
%SystemRoot%\System32\chcp.com 65001 >nul

echo.&echo. Manage the following registry keys to disable Telemetry:
echo.&echo.EnableQueryRemoteServer  (REG_DWORD)
echo. - Querying or reporting to a Microsoft server for diagnostics. (aka telemetry)
echo.SpyNetReporting  (REG_DWORD)
echo. - SpyNet telemetry for Windows Defender.
echo.&echo.RestrictReceivingNTLMTraffic  (REG_DWORD)
echo.RestrictSendingNTLMTraffic  (REG_DWORD)
echo. - Opted to make it optional as it breaks accessing a SMB NAS.
echo.&echo.   Values will change only if the reg keys values are already existed.
echo.   (also will display info and will open in Windows Registry Editor)

:START
:: Prompt for options 
echo.&echo.=====================================================================
echo. Press a [key] to choose an option:
echo.[B]   to Backup a (.reg) file on Desktop. (Recomended just any case)
echo.[D]   to Disable by changing its reg vaues. (will display log info)
choice /c BD /n /m "Selected:"

if %errorlevel%==2 set "Option=Disable" & goto :DISABLE
if %errorlevel%==1 set "Option=Backup" & goto :BACKUP


:BACKUP
:: make forlder on Desktop for backups.
mkdir "%UserProfile%\Desktop\[REG-backup]_Diagnostics-Telemetry"
:: Set Log file path
set "Log=%UserProfile%\Desktop\[REG-backup]_Diagnostics-Telemetry"

echo.&echo.Backing up...

echo.&echo. - Querying or reporting to a Microsoft server for diagnostics. (aka telemetry)
echo.   EnableQueryRemoteServer (x64)
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\ScriptedDiagnosticsProvider\Policy"
call :Check_if_exist
reg export "!HKEY!" "!Log!\EnableQueryRemoteServer(64).reg"

echo.   EnableQueryRemoteServer (x86)
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\ScriptedDiagnosticsProvider\Policy"
call :Check_if_exist
reg export "!HKEY!" "!Log!\EnableQueryRemoteServer(86).reg"

echo.&echo. - SpyNet telemetry for Windows Defender.
echo.   SpyNetReporting (x64)
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\SpyNet"
call :Check_if_exist
reg export "!HKEY!" "!Log!\SpyNetReporting(64).reg"

echo.   SpyNetReporting (x86)
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Spynet"
call :Check_if_exist
reg export "!HKEY!" "!Log!\SpyNetReporting(86).reg"


echo.&echo.
echo. - Opted to make it optional as it breaks accessing a SMB NAS.
:: Checking first, show query, and Backup only IF existed
echo.&echo.RestrictReceivingNTLMTraffic  (REG_DWORD)
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\MSV1_0"
reg query "!HKEY!" /f RestrictReceivingNTLMTraffic 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==1 reg query "!HKEY!" & goto :next1
reg export "!HKEY!" "!Log!\RestrictReceivingNTLMTraffic.reg"
:next1
echo.RestrictSendingNTLMTraffic  (REG_DWORD)
reg query "!HKEY!" /f RestrictSendingNTLMTraffic 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==1 reg query "!HKEY!" & goto :next2
reg export "!HKEY!" "!Log!\RestrictSendingNTLMTraffic.reg"
:next2

:: Open Windows Registry Editor on Specific HKEY
call :Open
goto :START


:DISABLE
echo.&echo.Disabling...

:: - These disable querying or reporting to a Microsoft server for diagnostics. (aka telemetry)

:: EnableQueryRemoteServer (x64)  default = 1
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\ScriptedDiagnosticsProvider\Policy"
call :Check_if_exist and Get_Admin_Owner_Permissions
reg add "!HKEY!" /v "EnableQueryRemoteServer" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f

:: EnableQueryRemoteServer (x86)  default = 1
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\ScriptedDiagnosticsProvider\Policy"
call :Check_if_exist and Get_Admin_Owner_Permissions
reg add "!HKEY!" /v "EnableQueryRemoteServer" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f

:: - These disable SpyNet telemetry for Windows Defender.

:: SpyNetReporting (x64)
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Defender\SpyNet"
call :Check_if_exist and Get_Admin_Owner_Permissions
reg add "!HKEY!" /v "SpyNetReporting" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f

:: SpyNetReporting (x86)
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Spynet"
call :Check_if_exist and Get_Admin_Owner_Permissions
reg add "!HKEY!" /v "SpyNetReporting" /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f


echo.&echo.
:: Prompt for optionals 
echo. - Opted to make it optional as it breaks accessing a SMB NAS.
echo.   Values will change only if the reg keys values are already existed.
echo.   (also will display info and will open in Windows Registry Editor)
set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\MSV1_0"
echo.&echo.Press [C] to Continue
echo.Press [A] to Abort  (display info and open in regedit)
choice /c AC /n /m "Selected:"
if %errorlevel%==2 goto :Continue
if %errorlevel%==1 goto :Abort

:Abort
echo.&echo.[!HKEY!]
echo.&echo.RestrictReceivingNTLMTraffic  (REG_DWORD)
reg query "!HKEY!" /f RestrictReceivingNTLMTraffic 2>&1
echo.&echo.RestrictSendingNTLMTraffic  (REG_DWORD)
reg query "!HKEY!" /f RestrictSendingNTLMTraffic 2>&1
:: Open Windows Registry Editor on Specific HKEY
call :Open
goto :START

:Continue
:: Checking first, show query, and change/add only IF value existed
echo.&echo.RestrictReceivingNTLMTraffic  (REG_DWORD)
reg query "!HKEY!" /f RestrictReceivingNTLMTraffic 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==1 reg query "!HKEY!" & goto :next3
reg add "!HKEY!" /v "RestrictReceivingNTLMTraffic" /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f

:next3
:: Checking first, show query, and change/add only IF value existed
echo.&echo.RestrictSendingNTLMTraffic  (REG_DWORD)
reg query "!HKEY!" /f RestrictSendingNTLMTraffic 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==1 reg query "!HKEY!" & goto :next4
reg add "!HKEY!" /v "RestrictSendingNTLMTraffic" /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f

:next4
:: Open Windows Registry Editor on Specific HKEY
call :Open
goto :START


:Open Windows Registry Editor on Specific HKEY
reg add "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Applets\Regedit" /v LastKey /t REG_SZ /d "%HKEY%" /f
start "" "%SystemRoot%\regedit.exe" -m
exit /b

:Check_if_exist and Get_Admin_Owner_Permissions
reg query "!HKEY!" 2>&1
if %errorlevel%==0 (
	if !Option!==Backup echo. Making Backup:
	if !Option!==Disable goto :Get_Admin_Owner_Permissions
) else (
	echo."!HKEY!"
)
exit /b

:Get_Admin_Owner_Permissions
echo. Gaining Owner ^& Admin full Permissions...
   :: Take Owner
SetACL.exe -on "!HKEY!" -ot reg -actn setowner -ownr "n:Administrators" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
   :: Take Permissions 
SetACL.exe -on "!HKEY!" -ot reg -actn ace -ace "n:Administrators;p:full" -rec Yes >nul 2>&1
exit /b

exit

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Open a new process of Windows Registry Editor on specific HKEY

Unlike Windows 10, Windows 7 Registry Editor don't have address bar to browse.

So, use this little batch to "Open a new process of Windows Registry Editor on specific HKEY"
[*] Allows to have multiple regedit windows opened.)
[*] with "HKEY Path Correction" which removing quotes ("..."), brackets ([...]), and ROOTKEY abreviations (ex:HKCU).

Strongly recommended: Do Not ever hide the "File name extensions" (due to security reasons)
File menu > Tools > Folder Options... > View (tab) > Uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types"

OR from (Admin) Command Prompt to Registry:
:: Hide EXTENSIONS for known file types [Uncheck=0]
REG ADD HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced /v HideFileExt /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f

Save it as "Open Windows Registry Editor on specific HKEY.cmd"

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@echo off&mode.com 130,13&title Open Windows Registry Editor on specific HKEY&color 3b
SetLocal EnableExtensions EnableDelayedExpansion
echo. Open a new process of Windows Registry Editor on specific HKEY.&echo.
echo. If prompt is left empty and [Enter] is pressed, it will Clear the "Last Key"
echo.  and will Open Registry Editor at "Computer" ROOTKEY.&echo.

echo. Note: Enable the Command Prompt "Edit Mode" to allow you to paste with R.Click.
echo.(R.Click Command Prompt Title bar ^> Properties ^> Options (tab) ^> check Edit Mode.)&echo.

:: Prompt
echo. Paste here the HKEY:
set /p "HKEY=Paste here the HKEY:" >nul

:: HKEY Path Correction
:: removing quotes ("), bracets ([]), and ROOTKEY abreviations (HKCU).
set HKEY=!HKEY:"=!
set HKEY=!HKEY:[=!
set HKEY=!HKEY:]=!
if "!HKEY:~0,9!" == "Computer\" (set "HKEY=!HKEY:~9!")
if "!HKEY:~0,4!" == "HKCR" (set "HKEY=HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT!HKEY:~4!")
if "!HKEY:~0,4!" == "HKCU" (set "HKEY=HKEY_CURRENT_USER!HKEY:~4!")
if "!HKEY:~0,4!" == "HKLM" (set "HKEY=HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE!HKEY:~4!")
if "!HKEY:~0,3!" == "HKU" (set "HKEY=HKEY_USERS!HKEY:~3!")
if "!HKEY:~0,4!" == "HKCC" (set "HKEY=HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG!HKEY:~4!")

reg add "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Applets\Regedit" /v LastKey /t REG_SZ /d "%HKEY%" /f
start "" "%SystemRoot%\regedit.exe" -m

::TEST
::"[Computer\HKCR\123\456\789 spaces _0]"
::echo !HKEY!
::pause
exit

Note: Enable the Command Prompt "Insert Mode" or/and "Edit Mode" to allow you to paste with R.Click.
R.Click Command Prompt Title bar > *Properties (and *Defaults) > Options (tab) > check Insert Mode or/and Edit Mode.
*Defaults applies to Default admin cmd. (System32)
*Properties applies to current cmd (corresponding to shortcut).

OR from (Admin) Command Prompt to Registry:
for *(Defaults) admin cmd:
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Console /v InsertMode /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Console /v QuickEdit /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Task Scheduler tweakng guide for Windows 7 :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-07-31T22:22:20+00:00

I had most of them already disabled.

For the "Time Synchronization", maybe it's better to change time server and disable/delete windows time sever from registry. (Sometimes, dual boots causing problem with time sync for me.)

Export the Time\Servers Reg Key:
reg export "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DateTime\Servers" "%UserProfile%\Desktop\Date-Time_Servers[backup].reg"

Adding a new time server. (eg.: time.cloudflare.com)
reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DateTime\Servers" /v 0 /t REG_SZ /d time.cloudflare.com /f

Setting new server as Default for automatically synchronization.
reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DateTime\Servers" /t REG_SZ /d 0 /f

note: "Windows Time" Service and "Time Synchronization" Windows Scheduled Task must be enabled.

I have disable windows time servers by add an X in front of the reg Data value. (see below)

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DateTime\Servers]
@="0"
"1"="Xtime.windows.com"
"2"="Xtime.nist.gov"
"0"="time.cloudflare.com"

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Task Scheduler tweakng guide for Windows 7 :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-08-02T09:56:36+00:00

I realized that the registry tweaks I always apply aren't mentioned here on the forum anywhere. I think I included them as extras in 7 updated v5, but I never gave them their own forum post.

I work around the dual boot issue with Windows by applying this

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation]
"RealTimeIsUniversal"=dword:00000001

Basically all non-Windows operating systems use UTC as the base and apply the timezone on top of that. Windows uses the time in your timezone as the base time. So when you boot into Linux and it's time sync runs, the time gets offset compared to Windows.

This registry change makes Windows work like every other OS and so there's no issues or conflicts. When you set up Windows though, you will need to keep it set to the default PST timezone in setup, then apply the registry tweak, then reboot, then set the time to your timezone after that all for it to remain accurate without syncing with a time server after.

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Task Scheduler tweakng guide for Windows 7 :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-08-02T19:31:07+00:00

Thanks for the very interesting information.

I work around the dual boot issue with Windows by applying this...
...So when you boot into Linux and it's time sync runs, the time gets offset compared to Windows.

For me happens sometimes also between Windows dual boots (ie.W10-W7).

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation]
"RealTimeIsUniversal"=dword:00000001

For my PC (W7Ux64), there're some other (REG_SZ, REG_DWORD, REG_BINARY) values under this reg key (\TimeZoneInformation) but not a "RealTimeIsUniversal" REG_DWORD. I suppose that I should add it, right?

If I understood right the procedure:

1. Click Taskbar clock > "Change date and time settings..."
    > "Date and Time" - "Change time zone..."
    > "Time Zone Settings" - Unchecking "Automatically adjust clock for Daylight Saving Time"
        (here do I need to change the "Time zone" to (UTC+00:00) ? I suppose not.)
        (do I need to set manually the local time ? I suppose yes, for new time to take place.)
2. Add reg Key\Value: reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation" /v RealTimeIsUniversal /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
3. Disable: a. Windows Scheduled Task:  "Time Synchronization" > "SynchronizeTime".
                 b. Windows Services:  Windows Time  (w32time)
4. Restart PC...
5. Click Taskbar clock > "Change date and time settings..."
        instead of > "Date and Time" > "Internet Time" (tab) > "Change settings..."
                    >  "Synchronize with an Internet time server:" (Server: time.cloudflare.com)
                    > "Update now" > OKs...
    > "Change date and time..." - and Set my Local Date & Time. > OKs...
6. Optionally now could Disable (by renaming and adding an X in front of REG_SZ values) or Delete entire key.
reg delete "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DateTime\Servers" /f

Am I right?

I think with this way the OS clock is depended to BIOS time (and its battery), is it?
(This doesn't sounds very good to me but I'll try to test it some time.) Thanks again!

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Task Scheduler tweakng guide for Windows 7 :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-08-08T08:27:53+00:00

I just enabled RealTimeIsUniversal, rebooted to BIOS, made sure clock is in UTC, done.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Author townsbg

2026-07-29T18:56:44+00:00

I decided to replace Firefox on my windows 7 install with r3dfox and it would work except I have a strange issue with youtube. Occasionally I like to watch music vids and after install I noticed that every single vid opened up in a playlist I could tell that it was going to do so because the url has playlist in it. They didn't show up from the search page as playlists but regular music vids. I continued using Firefox for music vids.

That was a few months ago. Trying it again today when I'd search for a vid every single result was either a short or playlist. Who watches shorts when they want to watch music vids? They aren't actual must vids. At least the playlists showed up as playlists rather than looking like vids. Filtering down to vids only resulted in a bunch of blank lines. I don't know if this is a youtube problem or r3dfox but I don't have this issue on Firefox. I cleared cache and tried again but I got the same thing. I'm using version 140 esr.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-29T21:29:17+00:00

Is it different with another browser ? .e.g., Firefox 115 ESR:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=9307#p9307

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by townsbg

2026-07-29T22:02:18+00:00

I put that in the post. I don't have that issue on FF 115.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-29T22:23:40+00:00

townsbg wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 22:02 I put that in the post. I don't have that issue on FF 115.

Sorry, I missed that.
Please, give us an URL with such playlist in it which is exposing the issue.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by townsbg

2026-07-29T22:44:09+00:00

Here is from earlier. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=until+it+sleeps+metallica

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-30T09:12:46+00:00

townsbg wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 18:56 I decided to replace Firefox on my windows 7 install with r3dfox and it would work except I have a strange issue with youtube. Occasionally I like to watch music vids and after install I noticed that every single vid opened up in a playlist I could tell that it was going to do so because the url has playlist in it. They didn't show up from the search page as playlists but regular music vids. I continued using Firefox for music vids.

That was a few months ago. Trying it again today when I'd search for a vid every single result was either a short or playlist. Who watches shorts when they want to watch music vids? They aren't actual must vids. At least the playlists showed up as playlists rather than looking like vids. Filtering down to vids only resulted in a bunch of blank lines. I don't know if this is a youtube problem or r3dfox but I don't have this issue on Firefox. I cleared cache and tried again but I got the same thing. I'm using version 140 esr.

I read this post EIGHT TIMES and still can't "follow" just what two versions you are comparing !!!
140 esr of **WHAT** ??? Firefox 140? r3dfox 140 ???
I can **NOT** find **ANY** reference of 115 in this post!
Win7 32bit ??? Win7 64bit???
I have to assume if your Win7 is 64 that you match it with Firefox/r3dfox 64 (not everybody does, some intentionally use 32bit browsers on 64bit OSs).

Now then, that *CONFUSION* aside, I tried the 64bit r3dfox 140 on a 64bit OS and I'm not seeing your YouTube issues.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by townsbg

2026-07-30T13:29:52+00:00

Sorry for the confusion. It's r3dfox 140 esr compared to Firefox 115 on windows 7 64-bit and the browsers are 64-bit. Firefox 115 is the latest for Windows 7 which is why I didn't say anything about the version earlier but it is in a follow up post. I just checked Firefox 140 on Windows 10 just now and it's doing the same thing. I use 64-bit there as well.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-30T13:37:17+00:00

Can you show a screencap of what you are "not liking" in YouTube?
Everything is "normal" for me (ie, no "shorts" [agreed, shorts are STUPID and I wish YouTube would abolish them!]).
Geolocation issue? You get a different view than I get?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-30T14:11:09+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026, 13:37 Everything is "normal" for me (ie, no "shorts"

Same for me.
In the Settings → Privacy and Security → Cookies and Site Data click on Clear Browsing Data then select:
When = Everything
Browsing and Download history
Cookies and Site data
Temporary cached files and pages

And click on the Clear button. Then close and restart R3dfox and try again.

R3dfox-BrowsingData.png

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026, 13:37 Geolocation issue? You get a different view than I get?

Well, it looks like he is in the USA like you so I guess it must be something else.
That said, I'm using uBlock Origin among some other extensions.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-30T16:00:50+00:00

In an attempt to recreate his issue, I disabled uBO and was YouTubing with ZERO extensions and all config settings at default, out-of-the-box, as-is, no changes, just download, extract, disable the built-in uBO, execute. No YouTube "shorts", just standard regular ol' music videos on about a dozen different searches.

edit: not logged into Google for my tests

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-30T18:11:35+00:00

townsbg wrote: ↑30 Jul 2026, 13:29 I just checked Firefox 140 on Windows 10 just now and it's doing the same thing.

Are you logged in to Google when this happens ?
If so, is it the same behavior if you're not logged in to Google ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by townsbg

2026-07-30T23:11:31+00:00

I believe that I am on 10 but I'm not on R3dfox on 7. I tried clearing cache and selected everything but that didn't resolve the issue. I also have ublock installed.

From the link I used earlier it only shows playlists and shorts. The shorts aren't full vids and the playlists don't necessarily have vids I care to watch plus they autoplay which I also hate. You can tell that it's a playlist because it says "Mix." You can see I'm logged out of youtube.

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Interestingly enough I don't have that on a blank profile nor am I getting it if I do troubleshooting mode. Disabling and re-enabling plugins I've narrowed it down to ubo. I suppose I need to look at that plugins filtering. I think I did some for youtube but it should also be on Firefox since I have it installed on Firefox as well.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-31T05:02:32+00:00

You can take matters into your own hands and force better control.
YOUR web, YOUR way. YOUR YouTube, YOUR way.

My r3dfox profile is *VERY* limited, hardly ever used.
In fact, every time I did a test to try to repeat your issue, it was from a brand new download.
I don't have any r3dfox profiles that have a long history of use behind them.
This is not the case for Duke.

So, just a theory, YouTube is "nice and clean" for me because it hasn't built a "server-side profile" of my IP Address / Browser.
But again, just a theory. And again, not the case for Duke.
So I think it is *NOT* some sort of "server-side profile".
At least, not in this situation (I do think that YouTube builds "server-side profiles").
I say this because I can do the EXACT same searches at home versus at work and get DIFFERENT RESULTS.
Same goes for spanning a half dozen computers at home, EXACT search gets DIFFERENT results.

But as far as TAKING MATTERS IN YOUR OWN HANDS, there are ways to FORCE *never* getting "shorts".
This is one (out of fifteen!) userscripts that I use on YouTube.
I did NOT use this in the r3dfox tests that are NOT giving me "shorts", this is from my "everyday profile" (Chromium-based, not Mozilla-based).

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// ==UserScript==
// @name - YouTube 10 - Remove Shorts / Popular / Also Watched / New To You / Explore
// @version 2025.4.4.0.1
// @match https://*.youtube.com/*
// @match https://m.youtube.com/*
// @grant none
// @run-at document-start
// ==/UserScript==

(function () {
    'use strict';

    const hideHistoryShorts = false;
    const debug = false;

    const commonSelectors = [
        'a[href*="/shorts/"]',
        '[is-shorts]',
        'yt-chip-cloud-chip-renderer:has(a[href*="/shorts/"])',
        'ytd-reel-shelf-renderer',
        'ytd-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[overlay-style="SHORTS"]',
        '#guide [title="Shorts"]',
        '.ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer[title="Shorts"]',
        '.ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer[aria-label="Shorts"]',
        'grid-shelf-view-model',
        'ytd-shelf-renderer',
        'ytd-movie-renderer',
        'ytd-channel-renderer',
        'ytd-horizontal-card-list-renderer',
        '#spinner-container',
    ];

    const mobileSelectors = [
        '.pivot-shorts',
        'ytm-reel-shelf-renderer',
        'ytm-search ytm-video-with-context-renderer [data-style="SHORTS"]',
    ];

    const feedSelectors = [
        'ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-grid-video-renderer [overlay-style="SHORTS"]',
        'ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer [overlay-style="SHORTS"]',
        'ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-rich-item-renderer [overlay-style="SHORTS"]',
    ];
    const channelSelectors = ['yt-tab-shape[tab-title="Shorts"]'];
    const historySelectors = ['ytd-browse[page-subtype="history"] ytd-reel-shelf-renderer'];

    function removeElementsBySelectors(selectors) {
        selectors.forEach((selector) => {
            try {
                const elements = document.querySelectorAll(selector);
                elements.forEach((element) => {
                    if (element.dataset.removedByScript) return;
                    let parent = element.closest(
                        'ytd-video-renderer, ytd-grid-video-renderer, ytd-compact-video-renderer, ytd-rich-item-renderer, ytm-video-with-context-renderer'
                    );
                    if (!parent) parent = element;
                    parent.remove();
                    parent.dataset.removedByScript = 'true';
                    if (debug) console.log(`Removed element: ${parent}`);
                });
            } catch (error) {
                if (debug) console.warn(`Error processing selector: ${selector}`, error);
            }
        });
    }

    function removeElements() {
        const currentUrl = window.location.href;
        if (debug) console.log('Current URL:', currentUrl);

        if (currentUrl.includes('m.youtube.com')) {
            removeElementsBySelectors(mobileSelectors);
        }
        if (currentUrl.includes('/feed/subscriptions')) {
            removeElementsBySelectors(feedSelectors);
        }
        //if (currentUrl.includes('/channel') || currentUrl.includes('/@')) {
        //    removeElementsBySelectors(channelSelectors);
        //}
        if (hideHistoryShorts && currentUrl.includes('/feed/history')) {
            removeElementsBySelectors(historySelectors);
        }

        removeElementsBySelectors(commonSelectors);
    }

    function debounce(func, delay) {
        let timeout;
        return (...args) => {
            clearTimeout(timeout);
            timeout = setTimeout(() => func.apply(this, args), delay);
        };
    }

    const debouncedRemoveElements = debounce(removeElements, 300);

    function init() {
        if (debug) console.log('Remove YouTube Shorts script activated');
        removeElements();

        const isFirefox = navigator.userAgent.includes('Firefox');
        if (isFirefox) {
            window.addEventListener('popstate', removeElements);
        } else {
            document.addEventListener('yt-navigate-finish', removeElements);
        }

        const observer = new MutationObserver(debouncedRemoveElements);
        observer.observe(document.body, { childList: true, subtree: true });
    }

    if (document.readyState === 'loading') {
        document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', init);
    } else {
        init();
    }
})();

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by townsbg

2026-07-31T13:55:18+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑31 Jul 2026, 05:02 You can take matters into your own hands and force better control.
YOUR web, YOUR way. YOUR YouTube, YOUR way.

My r3dfox profile is *VERY* limited, hardly ever used.
In fact, every time I did a test to try to repeat your issue, it was from a brand new download.
I don't have any r3dfox profiles that have a long history of use behind them.
This is not the case for Duke.

So, just a theory, YouTube is "nice and clean" for me because it hasn't built a "server-side profile" of my IP Address / Browser.
But again, just a theory. And again, not the case for Duke.
So I think it is *NOT* some sort of "server-side profile".
At least, not in this situation (I do think that YouTube builds "server-side profiles").
I say this because I can do the EXACT same searches at home versus at work and get DIFFERENT RESULTS.
Same goes for spanning a half dozen computers at home, EXACT search gets DIFFERENT results.

But as far as TAKING MATTERS IN YOUR OWN HANDS, there are ways to FORCE *never* getting "shorts".
This is one (out of fifteen!) userscripts that I use on YouTube.
I did NOT use this in the r3dfox tests that are NOT giving me "shorts", this is from my "everyday profile" (Chromium-based, not Mozilla-based).

Thanks maybe I'll use it but how do I implement it? I know that Youtube remembers search and browsing history but I turn those off always.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Youtube problem on r3dfox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-31T14:42:22+00:00

You need to use something like Tampermonkey, Greasemonkey, Violentmonkey, or FireMonkey.
I prefer Tampermonkey (but mine is heavily modified "to my liking").

re: YouTube "remebering" search and browsing history, my point here is that THEIR SERVER remembers you.
You cannot prevent that level of "remembering" by deleting your cache/cookies or not being logged in, THEIR server has its own "remembering".

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox opening up pdfs :: Author townsbg

2026-07-29T20:30:21+00:00

I want to have r3dfox save pdf files rather than open them up in my reader however it keeps reverting from save as to open up in the reader. When that happens it's saved automatically to the temp folder and I have to go get it. Does anyone know why that's happening? I know at least one other person had that issue.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox opening up pdfs :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-07-29T20:39:34+00:00

I think this might be related to browser.download.open_pdf_attachments_inline

Go to about:config and set it to false and see if it works how you expect it to after.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox opening up pdfs :: Reply by townsbg

2026-07-29T20:50:26+00:00

I changed it to false but it still reverts to opening up in my reader.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox opening up pdfs :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-29T21:39:42+00:00

I can't reproduce and I have browser.download.open_pdf_attachments_inline set to true.

Check Settings → General → Applications and set Always Ask or Save File for PDFs:

R3dfox-PDF.png

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox opening up pdfs :: Reply by townsbg

2026-07-29T21:58:52+00:00

It says always ask when I open it but if I click on the drop down it changes to open in the default application and automatically opens it. If I change it to save it reverts when I open it again. The always ask shows the application icon.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox opening up pdfs :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-29T22:26:02+00:00

townsbg wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 21:58 The always ask shows the application icon.

What is this application ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox opening up pdfs :: Reply by townsbg

2026-07-29T23:14:16+00:00

Foxit reader.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox opening up pdfs :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-30T13:54:24+00:00

Well, I'm not using Foxit but another program as the default for PDFs and I don't have this issue.
Can you try with a new profile ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox opening up pdfs :: Reply by townsbg

2026-07-30T23:53:49+00:00

I tried a new profile and I'm getting the same thing.

Blank profile.JPG

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox opening up pdfs :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-01T04:54:52+00:00

I've just tried R3dfox v140.11 ESR with a new profile and it's working fine for me.
I have the option Always ask you where to save files ticked.

R3dfoxESR-PDF.png

I don't see what else would matter.
Give me a link to a PDF file that exposes the problem so I can try it.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-20T11:21:45+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑20 Jul 2026, 00:37 Will that include ESR?

For Firefox, yes:
https://whattrainisitnow.com/release/?version=esr

For R3dfox, I don't know. And, as you can see, there will be a new ESR 153 branch.

JodyThornton wrote: ↑20 Jul 2026, 00:37 Also, will that release remedy the lacking title bar issue?

There is an issue report about that:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/182

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2026-07-20T13:18:27+00:00

Sorry Duke, I thought you were referring loosely to r3dFox when you mentioned the upcoming v153 branch; not native Firefox. So as far as r3dFox and e3k-etc ... we still don't know.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-20T18:37:30+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑20 Jul 2026, 13:18 I thought you were referring loosely to r3dFox when you mentioned the upcoming v153 branch

I mentioned it as a wink with the hope we'll get a R3dfox v153 soon

BTW Firefox v140 ESR is still alive, v140.13 will also be released tomorrow.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2026-07-20T20:02:47+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑20 Jul 2026, 18:37 BTW Firefox v140 ESR is still alive, v140.13 will also be released tomorrow.

I know I was actually hoping to get a new e3k-etc or r3dFox version of this, so I could just keep running 140x ESR until years' end. We'll see

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-21T18:37:25+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑20 Jul 2026, 20:02 I was actually hoping to get a new e3k-etc or r3dFox version of this, so I could just keep running 140x ESR until years' end.

Last version of Firefox 140 ESR branch on September 29.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2026-07-22T15:43:15+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑21 Jul 2026, 18:37n of Firefox 140 ESR branch on September 29.

Right, but you're referring to the official Mozilla releases; not r3dFox and e3k-etc, correct?
(or is that another wink to the aforementioned developers?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-22T16:49:05+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑22 Jul 2026, 15:43 Right, but you're referring to the official Mozilla releases; not r3dFox and e3k-etc, correct?
(or is that another wink to the aforementioned developers?

Correct.
What I meant is that in any case, Firefox, R3dfox or e3k, the v140 ESR branch will stop at the end of September and not at the end of year.

But I really hope we'll get at least a R3dfox v153 soon because of this looong list of security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2026-68/

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2026-07-22T19:51:44+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑22 Jul 2026, 16:49 But I really hope we'll get at least a R3dfox v153 soon because of this looong list of security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2026-68/

Of course, and I get that. Mind you, if e3k-etc and redacted are experiencing difficulties getting a v153 release out there, perhaps an updated build of v140 ESR would address that for now. (I'm also winking )

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-22T22:07:52+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: ↑22 Jul 2026, 19:51 Mind you, if e3k-etc and redacted are experiencing difficulties getting a v153 release out there, perhaps an updated build of v140 ESR would address that for now. (I'm also winking )

Seeing there is also a long list of security fixes for Firefox v140.13 ESR, I'll take one build or the other:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2026-70/

But I hope there is a typo in this comment:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/210#issuecomment-5051533805

Should be 153, not 152

BTW, I'm not experiencing the bookmarks gap issue with R3dfox v152.0.4 on Windows 8.1:

R3dfox152-Bookmarks.png

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-23T08:55:51+00:00

It was not a typo, R3dfox v152.0.4-2 is out:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v152.0.4-2

By the way about 153, I'd need to refactor a lot of the code for it, and I don't feel up to that right now, especially now that I get headaches every day aaaaaaaaaa. e3k 153 is unlikely to come soon, so it will likely be a while until r3dfox 153 comes.

Meanwhile, maybe we could get a v152.0.6 which includes these security fixes ?
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2026-67/

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2026-07-23T16:08:59+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑22 Jul 2026, 22:07 But I hope there is a typo in this comment:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/210#issuecomment-5051533805

Should be 153, not 152

Not a typo at all. Look at the blurb in the latest release ... so much for our "last hope"

"By the way about 153, I'd need to refactor a lot of the code for it, and I don't feel up to that right now, especially now that I get headaches every day aaaaaaaaaa. e3k 153 is unlikely to come soon, so it will likely be a while until r3dfox 153 comes."

Repat after Homer Simpson:
D'oh! D'oh! D'oh!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-07-23T23:35:57+00:00

I'm worried about you, K4Sum1 I didn't stop caring you know, I never give up on friends. I'm sorry you are getting headaches. I know them all too well. Struggling myself as you might see.

~Of topic of course.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-07-23T23:59:04+00:00

idk what it is exactly, but my head seems fine, I got a whole ass MRI and found nothing wrong idk. But I take an alieve or tylenol in the morning every day and sometimes it's alright and sometimes it's not. Today is particularly bad since I had it since I first woke up and I even double dosed the shit and still have it aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

However regarding 153, the main issue was with Webrender, then I got the idea what if I just took the Webrender from 152 and plopped it into 153, and after some fixing, it kinda just works. So 153 soon probably.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by 265 993 303

2026-07-24T07:52:04+00:00

In r3dfox, the zoom level is sometimes distorted when reopening closed tabs. For example, I use 288dpi (300%) in Windows 7, and I added 0.333333333333333333333 to toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues in about:config. When I set the browser zoom to 33%, window.devicePixelRatio is set to 1 as expected. But after closing and reopening the tab, the zoom gets distorted, and window.devicePixelRatio returns 0.9836065573770492 instead, which according to Number To Fractions corresponds to the fraction 60÷61. This implies that the zoom got distorted from 1÷3 to 20÷61. The exact same issue occurs in both r3dfox 153.0 (64-bit), Mypal 68.13.1b (32-bit), while Firefox ESR 52.4.1 (32-bit) returns a slightly different value of 0.9836065769195557 (4125545÷4194304, which is probably a single precision float approximation). This indicates that the distortion of zoom values affects a broad range of Firefox based browsers. It should be fixed to preserve the exact zoom level across sessions.

Another issue relating to zoom levels is that when an image is opened in a new tab in the browser, it always defaults to 100% zoom, and clicking on the image will change it to 100% zoom. But in non-96dpi configurations, this causes devicePixelRatio to be other than 1, and makes it no longer a pixel-perfect scale, forcing users to manually change the zoom each time the image is loaded or clicked.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-24T10:54:38+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑23 Jul 2026, 23:59 However regarding 153, the main issue was with Webrender, then I got the idea what if I just took the Webrender from 152 and plopped it into 153, and after some fixing, it kinda just works. So 153 soon probably.

And R3dfox v153 is there:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v153.0

Thanks!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-07-24T21:54:11+00:00

265 993 303 wrote: ↑24 Jul 2026, 07:52 In r3dfox, the zoom level is sometimes distorted when reopening closed tabs. For example, I use 288dpi (300%) in Windows 7, and I added 0.333333333333333333333 to toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues in about:config. When I set the browser zoom to 33%, window.devicePixelRatio is set to 1 as expected. But after closing and reopening the tab, the zoom gets distorted, and window.devicePixelRatio returns 0.9836065573770492 instead, which according to Number To Fractions corresponds to the fraction 60÷61. This implies that the zoom got distorted from 1÷3 to 20÷61. The exact same issue occurs in both r3dfox 153.0 (64-bit), Mypal 68.13.1b (32-bit), while Firefox ESR 52.4.1 (32-bit) returns a slightly different value of 0.9836065769195557 (4125545÷4194304, which is probably a single precision float approximation). This indicates that the distortion of zoom values affects a broad range of Firefox based browsers. It should be fixed to preserve the exact zoom level across sessions.

Another issue relating to zoom levels is that when an image is opened in a new tab in the browser, it always defaults to 100% zoom, and clicking on the image will change it to 100% zoom. But in non-96dpi configurations, this causes devicePixelRatio to be other than 1, and makes it no longer a pixel-perfect scale, forcing users to manually change the zoom each time the image is loaded or clicked.

I think this is better reported to bugzilla.mozilla.org and not here. If you were to go through nightly builds and figure out where it first occurs, I could try fixing it though.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by 265 993 303

2026-07-25T08:32:19+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑24 Jul 2026, 21:54 I think this is better reported to bugzilla.mozilla.org and not here.

Someone already reported the distorted zoom levels to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1178138

I reported the image zoom issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2057719

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑24 Jul 2026, 21:54 If you were to go through nightly builds and figure out where it first occurs, I could try fixing it though.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/

The zoom level 0.333333333333333333333 does not get distorted in 2015-04-29-03-02-02-mozilla-central but it gets distorted in 2015-04-30-03-02-01-mozilla-central (both are firefox-40.0a2.en-US.win32). In fact, 2015-04-30 distorts the zoom value when switching tabs, even if the tab remains open!

But the underlying issue goes much deeper as other zoom levels still get distorted in 2015-04-29 version. In fact, going all the way back to 2007-10-26-05-trunk, the very first version to have zoom option (the list of zoom levels was called toolkit.zoomManager.fullZoomValues instead of toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues) that version still distorts zoom levels. If I set toolkit.zoomManager.fullZoomValues to 1,1.7 and I try to display a 384×96 image in 170% zoom, it gets displayed in 2094×523 size. This does not correspond to round(384×1.7×3)×round(96×1.7×3) which would have been 1958×490. It corresponds to floor(384×(20÷11)×3)×floor(96×(20÷11)×3). The same characteristic numerator of 20 appears!

Earlier versions (such as 2007-10-25-04-trunk) have a Text Size option instead of Zoom. The Text Size option covers a broad range of sizes (it seems to have 20 scale levels), but it doesn't show any numbers for scale and doesn't seem to be configurable in about:config.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-25T09:12:14+00:00

Problem with R3dfox v153: any page but the about: pages, site or local file appears to never be completly loaded even though it is:

R3dfox153-KO.png

Workaround: open a new tab then close it so the refresh sign is fixed:

R3dfox153-OK.png

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-25T11:25:23+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑25 Jul 2026, 09:12 Problem with R3dfox v153: any page but the about: pages, site or local file appears to never be completly loaded even though it is

Fixed in R3dfox v153 hotfix:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v153.0-hotfix

BTW, why I can't delete any of these many forced Anubis keys ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-07-26T00:04:50+00:00

265 993 303 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2026, 08:32
the_r3dacted wrote: ↑24 Jul 2026, 21:54 I think this is better reported to bugzilla.mozilla.org and not here.
Someone already reported the distorted zoom levels to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1178138

I reported the image zoom issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2057719

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑24 Jul 2026, 21:54 If you were to go through nightly builds and figure out where it first occurs, I could try fixing it though.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/
The zoom level 0.333333333333333333333 does not get distorted in 2015-04-29-03-02-02-mozilla-central but it gets distorted in 2015-04-30-03-02-01-mozilla-central (both are firefox-40.0a2.en-US.win32). In fact, 2015-04-30 distorts the zoom value when switching tabs, even if the tab remains open!

But the underlying issue goes much deeper as other zoom levels still get distorted in 2015-04-29 version. In fact, going all the way back to 2007-10-26-05-trunk, the very first version to have zoom option (the list of zoom levels was called toolkit.zoomManager.fullZoomValues instead of toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues) that version still distorts zoom levels. If I set toolkit.zoomManager.fullZoomValues to 1,1.7 and I try to display a 384×96 image in 170% zoom, it gets displayed in 2094×523 size. This does not correspond to round(384×1.7×3)×round(96×1.7×3) which would have been 1958×490. It corresponds to floor(384×(20÷11)×3)×floor(96×(20÷11)×3). The same characteristic numerator of 20 appears!

Earlier versions (such as 2007-10-25-04-trunk) have a Text Size option instead of Zoom. The Text Size option covers a broad range of sizes (it seems to have 20 scale levels), but it doesn't show any numbers for scale and doesn't seem to be configurable in about:config.

Yeah that goes way over my head and skillset. Good luck

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-07-26T00:09:34+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026, 00:04
265 993 303 wrote: ↑25 Jul 2026, 08:32
the_r3dacted wrote: ↑24 Jul 2026, 21:54 I think this is better reported to bugzilla.mozilla.org and not here.
Someone already reported the distorted zoom levels to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1178138

I reported the image zoom issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2057719

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑24 Jul 2026, 21:54 If you were to go through nightly builds and figure out where it first occurs, I could try fixing it though.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/
The zoom level 0.333333333333333333333 does not get distorted in 2015-04-29-03-02-02-mozilla-central but it gets distorted in 2015-04-30-03-02-01-mozilla-central (both are firefox-40.0a2.en-US.win32). In fact, 2015-04-30 distorts the zoom value when switching tabs, even if the tab remains open!

But the underlying issue goes much deeper as other zoom levels still get distorted in 2015-04-29 version. In fact, going all the way back to 2007-10-26-05-trunk, the very first version to have zoom option (the list of zoom levels was called toolkit.zoomManager.fullZoomValues instead of toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues) that version still distorts zoom levels. If I set toolkit.zoomManager.fullZoomValues to 1,1.7 and I try to display a 384×96 image in 170% zoom, it gets displayed in 2094×523 size. This does not correspond to round(384×1.7×3)×round(96×1.7×3) which would have been 1958×490. It corresponds to floor(384×(20÷11)×3)×floor(96×(20÷11)×3). The same characteristic numerator of 20 appears!

Earlier versions (such as 2007-10-25-04-trunk) have a Text Size option instead of Zoom. The Text Size option covers a broad range of sizes (it seems to have 20 scale levels), but it doesn't show any numbers for scale and doesn't seem to be configurable in about:config.
Yeah that goes way over my head and skillset. Good luck

Way over my head too. You're not alone in that one. Very proud of you working through the headaches to finish your project.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-07-26T00:20:06+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑25 Jul 2026, 11:25 BTW, why I can't delete any of these many forced Anubis keys ?

Saw this in the email and then completely forgot to reply to it oop.

You can't remove any prefs that are included in the browser, so that's just standard Firefox behavior. I believe that if you set them to nothing it should treat it as if they didn't exist though afaik.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-07-26T00:54:11+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑23 Jul 2026, 23:59...idk what it is exactly, but my head seems fine, I got a whole ass MRI and found nothing wrong idk...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-26T11:09:01+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026, 00:20 You can't remove any prefs that are included in the browser, so that's just standard Firefox behavior.

But why are these keys hardcoded therefore forced ?

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026, 00:20 I believe that if you set them to nothing it should treat it as if they didn't exist though afaik.

In this case it's falling back to general.useragent.override because I have set one.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-07-26T12:38:06+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026, 11:09
the_r3dacted wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026, 00:20 You can't remove any prefs that are included in the browser, so that's just standard Firefox behavior.
But why are these keys hardcoded therefore forced ?

How else am I supposed to include them?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-26T14:45:57+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026, 12:38 How else am I supposed to include them?

config.cfg ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-07-26T22:32:16+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026, 14:45
the_r3dacted wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026, 12:38 How else am I supposed to include them?
config.cfg ?

Won't that work the same way? I assume it would let you delete them but just add them back because they no longer exist.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-27T12:58:28+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026, 22:32 Won't that work the same way? I assume it would let you delete them but just add them back because they no longer exist.

Since you can add config keys through config.cfg then you don't need to hardcode them anymore.
So the advanced user can delete / edit the ones he wants and it might be easier and faster for you to add / edit / remove some keys

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

2026-07-27T20:41:38+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑25 Jul 2026, 11:25
BTW, why I can't delete any of these many forced Anubis keys ?

... But why would you want to delete them in the first place? They serve a purpose, which is being detailed here ...

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑26 Jul 2026, 00:20
You can't remove any prefs that are included in the browser, so that's just standard Firefox behavior.

If one's really determined , there still is a way, but it involves messing with omni.ja archives ...

► Show Spoiler

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-28T03:57:42+00:00

GoodConscience wrote: ↑27 Jul 2026, 20:41 But why would you want to delete them in the first place? They serve a purpose

Because I don't care about Anubis, it's not a problem for me.
Because I have an account on some of these sites for years, and I don't want my user agent to appear with the F word in it.
Because %OS_SLICE% returns Windows 7 or 8 which is not coherent with any version > 115. This may cause problems, check this:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=9148#p9148
Because I see no reason why I should be forced to use these keys. Actually it's a PITA to have to edit these user agents, one by one, each time a new version of R3dfox is released.

GoodConscience wrote: ↑27 Jul 2026, 20:41 there still is a way, but it involves messing with omni.ja archives

Thanks for the tip. But it would be much easier to have these keys in config.cfg so you can quickly delete or edit the ones you want.
For now I'll just use this workaround:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=9367#p9367

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-28T05:03:08+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026, 03:57 Because I have an account on some of these sites for years, and I don't want my user agent to appear with the F word in it.
Because %OS_SLICE% returns Windows 7 or 8 which is not coherent with any version > 115. This may cause problems, check this:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=9148#p9148
Because I see no reason why I should be forced to use these keys. Actually it's a PITA to have to edit these user agents, one by one, each time a new version of R3dfox is released.

Totally agreed!
I was not familiar with the referenced "keys", but Holy Shit, Batman!
UA's with the F word is SO D@MN **CHILDISH**, thanks for the heads-up that SH!T like that is being hardcoded !!!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-07-28T21:47:22+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑27 Jul 2026, 12:58 Since you can add config keys through config.cfg then you don't need to hardcode them anymore.
So the advanced user can delete / edit the ones he wants and it might be easier and faster for you to add / edit / remove some keys

Ok, but then each update will replace config.cfg, unless you manually skip it, in which case you'll miss later changes that come from Librewolf.

Duke wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026, 03:57 Because %OS_SLICE% returns Windows 7 or 8 which is not coherent with any version > 115. This may cause problems, check this:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=9148#p9148

I've been thinking about removing that code because it adds complexity and requires reverting optimizations done to the browser code all for dynamic runtime OS spoofing. I should just fake 10 for those picky sites.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026, 05:03
Duke wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026, 03:57 Because I have an account on some of these sites for years, and I don't want my user agent to appear with the F word in it.
Because %OS_SLICE% returns Windows 7 or 8 which is not coherent with any version > 115. This may cause problems, check this:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=9148#p9148
Because I see no reason why I should be forced to use these keys. Actually it's a PITA to have to edit these user agents, one by one, each time a new version of R3dfox is released.
Totally agreed!
I was not familiar with the referenced "keys", but Holy Shit, Batman!
UA's with the F word is SO D@MN **CHILDISH**, thanks for the heads-up that SH!T like that is being hardcoded !!!

lol you should see the GitHub issue lol

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-28T22:25:59+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026, 21:47 lol you should see the GitHub issue lol

Yeah, things like "trans-rights=human-rights". blah blah blah
There's "professional" and there's "childish", most of us know which is which when we see it.

The Notepad++ types of activism is never going to work for r3dfox.
At least I don't think it will, lol, what do I know.
I stopped updating mine BECAUSE of all the activism.
My old one works fine for everything I need it for.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-07-29T10:55:09+00:00

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-05T08:27:35+00:00

About this issue report:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/243

It happens because browser.settings-redesign.enabled is set to True, which is now the default in Firefox.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-11T13:13:27+00:00

R3dfox v153.0.3 has been released:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v153.0.3

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Nobody

2026-08-11T22:49:21+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑11 Aug 2026, 13:13 R3dfox v153.0.3 has been released

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-07-24T23:00:08+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260725-3219d2d-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260725-3219d2d-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260725-3219d2d-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260725-d849524bd-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260725-d849524bd-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260725-d849524bd-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260725-d849524bd-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260725-d849524bd-uxp-30427c0213-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #1803 - Convert std::*::value/::type to _v and _t suffixes. (1dd094e90b)
- Issue #3061 - Remove network tickler. (3312ebb226)
- No issue - Exclude some files from the preprocessor that don't have directives in them. (4b77043d11)
- Issue #3144 - Implement CSSStyleSheet replaceSync (05467e9db6)
- [js] Guard against OOB string sizes in internal Printf (90952505ec)
- [gfx] Add bounds checks and limit reverse scanning of ligature data. (07271921c9)
- [gfx] Hold a strong ref during GetFontAt lookup. (0b8fd38fb3)
- [DOM] Make parser update form owner properly (0cd2c3acf7)
- [js] Initialize BaselineFrame return value slot in OnLeaveBaselineFrame. (a809f575d1)
- [js] Clamp length of regexp captures array for dollar substitution. (f8982ebd3f)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- devtools: restore preprocessor usage (30427c0213)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-07-24T23:00:13+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260725-40a79c75-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260725-40a79c75-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260725-id-656ea98-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260725-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-30427c0213-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-07-24T23:00:18+00:00

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-07-31T23:32:55+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260801-3219d2d-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260801-3219d2d-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260801-3219d2d-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260801-d849524bd-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260801-d849524bd-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260801-d849524bd-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260801-d849524bd-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260801-d849524bd-uxp-bd1ccc490e-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- No Issue - Remove the half-life experiment in HTTP cache (da157b41a3)
- [network] Add usrsctp TSN gap check. (105f231910)
- [layout] Add corner-case correctness check in DottedCornerFinder::FindBestOverlap. (49c7e3445f)
- [DOM] Stop accepting audio samples with too low sample rates. (5faa70e3aa)
- No issue - CallUpdateWindow is [[nodiscard]], but we don't need to use the result here. (dbfe4bd5a6)
- [parser] Associate image elements with form only if the form and the intended parent are in the same tree. (5ac81bf6ff)
- Issue #2404 - Improvements to CSS aspect-ratio spec compliance (3905cc5bd5)
- Issue #2404 - Fix aspect ratio sizing for grid items (8cf6c58858)
- [image] Make sure the image was fully and cleanly decoded before finalizing its animation state as complete. (e252b3856a)
- No issue - Use `strnlen` instead of `strnlen_s`. (5a765da5ca)
- Bug 2029734: Flush before calling sctp_process_init() (44365a9dbc)
- Bug 2049523 - Make ToJSValue for float consistent with double. (db7d9c4c76)
- Issue #2404 - Split aspect ratio enum types into a separate header to fix compilation issues (d6022d3847)
- Bug 2045742 (34cb4816c2)
- [DOM media] Perform more thorough checks on video regions. (06e746865c)
- Issue #3061 Follow-up: Remove network tickler prefs (0f9c761769)
- [layout] Fix nsFrameSetFrame primary frame handling of replicated children. (e5b3bc7cf9)
- [network] Fix CacheEntry::mDoomCallback data race. (9111049721)
- Bug 2027349 - reject empty nickname in PK11_TraverseCertsForNicknameInSlot. (3d7dbc8fb9)
- Bug 2027362 - bound usageCount in PK11_UnwrapPrivKey to keyTemplate capacity. (ec58fff3ca)
- Bug 2029901 - Guard against keySize overflow in IKE PRF/PRF+ output sizing. (1ed628fe3a)
- Bug 2027373 - guard space subtraction in ssl_CallCustomExtensionSenders. (97201f8758)
- Bug 2027371 - rewrite labelLen bound in tls13_HkdfExpandLabelGeneral to avoid unsigned overflow. (7af0472879)
- Bug 2027346 - validate encoded EC params length and tag in SECKEY_ECParamsToKeySize/BasePointOrderLen. (0bcb0f57ff)
- Bug 2029807 - Guard padding read against empty output in SEC_PKCS7DecryptContents. (4cf35f7b33)
- Issue #3153 - Make sure buttons report a definite size for flex containers. Second try, this time ONLY do it for flex container or grids. This should prevent layout problems in non-flex scenarios. (cd90cc0fd7)
- Bug 2030563 - Validate CKA_CERTIFICATE_TYPE ulValueLen in nss_cert_type_from_ck_attrib. (2be3800e92)
- Bug 2027325 - Reject empty nickname in PK11_TraverseCertsForNicknameInSlot. (1a603bfe9e)
- Bug 2030102 - avoid leaving a dangling ss->sec.ci.sid on allocation failure. (5dd26d41f6)
- Bug 2032110 - fix two integer overflows on LLP64 systems. (79a227055a)
- Bug 2027364 - Set tail pointer to null in static slot lists when deallocating. (f167cb61ee)
- Bug 2028954 - CERT_DecodeAVAValue — Integer Overflow in Output Buffer Sizing. (c4cf8cf6e3)
- Bug 2029433 - Bounds-check wrap index in PK11_GetWrapKey to match PK11_SetWrapKey. (23dc9da219)
- Bug 2027353 - clamp input.len to testString size in pk11_mergeSecretKey. (4ce8d28c03)
- Bug 2043887 - guard against integer overflow in CERT_Hexify. (73995df3a6)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- nss: update certdata and bump ckbi version to 2.90 (e5c222be77)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-07-31T23:33:02+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260801-40a79c75-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260801-40a79c75-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260801-id-656ea98-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260801-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-bd1ccc490e-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-07-31T23:33:08+00:00

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20260801-6d3683c75-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20260801-6d3683c75-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- nss: update certdata and bump ckbi version to 2.90 (355bf04c8)
- ported from UXP: No Issue - Remove the half-life experiment in HTTP cache (da157b41) (bce086a0a)
- import from UXP: [network] Add usrsctp TSN gap check. (105f2319) (728de5fca)
- import from UXP: [layout] Add corner-case correctness check in DottedCornerFinder::FindBestOverlap. (49c7e344) (a3b30ecb4)
- import from UXP: [DOM] Stop accepting audio samples with too low sample rates. (5faa70e3) (fc10655b1)
- ported from UXP: No issue - CallUpdateWindow is [[nodiscard]], but we don't need to use the result here. (dbfe4bd5) (fba643271)
- import from UXP: [parser] Associate image elements with form only if the form and the intended parent are in the same tree. (5ac81bf6) (4b03e6446)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2404 - Improvements to CSS aspect-ratio spec compliance (3905cc5b) (608ee78c0)
- import from UXP: Issue #2404 - Fix aspect ratio sizing for grid items (8cf6c588) (5543f2f7b)
- ported from UXP: [image] Make sure the image was fully and cleanly decoded before finalizing its animation state as complete. (e252b385) (4ff326881)
- import from UXP: No issue - Use `strnlen` instead of `strnlen_s`. (5a765da5) (0316c9693)
- import from UXP: Bug 2029734: Flush before calling sctp_process_init() (44365a9d) (58c4ece42)
- import from UXP: Bug 2049523 - Make ToJSValue for float consistent with double. (db7d9c4c) (6d01a86e0)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2404 - Split aspect ratio enum types into a separate header to fix compilation issuesv (d6022d38) (2483193ab)
- import from UXP: Bug 2045742 (34cb4816) (3a6f3cf12)
- import from UXP: [DOM media] Perform more thorough checks on video regions. (06e74686) (3c8e85ed5)
- import from UXP: Issue #3061 Follow-up: Remove network tickler prefs (0f9c7617) (2b3618cd1)
- import from UXP: [layout] Fix nsFrameSetFrame primary frame handling of replicated children. (e5b3bc7c) (430c8d60d)
- import from UXP: [network] Fix CacheEntry::mDoomCallback data race. (91110497) (9be45a990)
- ported from UXP: Issue #3153 - Make sure buttons report a definite size for flex containers. Second try, this time ONLY do it for flex container or grids. This should prevent layout problems in non-flex scenarios. (cd90cc0f) (5099ec3fe)
- import from UXP:
- Bug 2027349 - reject empty nickname in PK11_TraverseCertsForNicknameInSlot. (3d7dbc8fb9)
- Bug 2027362 - bound usageCount in PK11_UnwrapPrivKey to keyTemplate capacity. (ec58fff3ca)
- Bug 2029901 - Guard against keySize overflow in IKE PRF/PRF+ output sizing. (1ed628fe3a)
- Bug 2027373 - guard space subtraction in ssl_CallCustomExtensionSenders. (97201f8758)
- Bug 2027371 - rewrite labelLen bound in tls13_HkdfExpandLabelGeneral to avoid unsigned overflow. (7af0472879)
- Bug 2027346 - validate encoded EC params length and tag in SECKEY_ECParamsToKeySize/BasePointOrderLen. (0bcb0f57ff)
- Bug 2029807 - Guard padding read against empty output in SEC_PKCS7DecryptContents. (4cf35f7b33)
- Bug 2030563 - Validate CKA_CERTIFICATE_TYPE ulValueLen in nss_cert_type_from_ck_attrib. (2be3800e92)
- Bug 2027325 - Reject empty nickname in PK11_TraverseCertsForNicknameInSlot. (1a603bfe9e)
- Bug 2030102 - avoid leaving a dangling ss->sec.ci.sid on allocation failure. (5dd26d41f6)
- Bug 2032110 - fix two integer overflows on LLP64 systems. (79a227055a)
- Bug 2027364 - Set tail pointer to null in static slot lists when deallocating. (f167cb61ee)
- Bug 2028954 - CERT_DecodeAVAValue — Integer Overflow in Output Buffer Sizing. (c4cf8cf6e3)
- Bug 2029433 - Bounds-check wrap index in PK11_GetWrapKey to match PK11_SetWrapKey. (23dc9da219)
- Bug 2027353 - clamp input.len to testString size in pk11_mergeSecretKey. (4ce8d28c03)
- Bug 2043887 - guard against integer overflow in CERT_Hexify. (73995df3a6) (6d3683c75)

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-07-20T22:10:26+00:00

I don't think so, Jody. I don't know, I am still on an old version and it still works sometimes and I turn to Arctic Foxie 360 when needed. Hate to say it, but I've been just hanging in there with XP until it breaks (any moment). Been using Linux more now and I'm sorry I can't help you better, but others here are much more knowledgeable than myself. Perhaps, either Duke or K4sum1 might offer better advice. I'm still on 68.14b. As I say, I'm just hanging in there and one day I'll be using Chrome (gritting my teeth) but OK ... I put it out there. Feodor seems to have forgotten this forum. Maybe the folks over at MSFN might know more. I can't go on there anymore after the log on change to email because I forgot the email I joined with and I don't even read over there anymore.

Good luck and good to see you here again.

Sal

EDIT:

Oh, I meant my computer is well past its prime and once it goes, I wouldn't install XP again. I didn't mean XP is dead - I still use it but getting pretty hard now to enjoy. I don't own a smart phone, can't afford one and don't really want one either.

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by JodyThornton

2026-07-21T00:31:59+00:00

Yeah I'm using Windows 8, so my experience with MyPal may fare better. Still I appreciate your feedback.

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-21T02:00:14+00:00

Sorry but I'm not using Mypal68, I just report updates when I see them.

Community Projects :: Adobe Flash 9 on Windows 95 and NT 3.5 :: Author Heathercat123

2026-07-21T14:27:00+00:00

Here's a little project that I "made" last year and then mostly abandoned, based on MattKC's dotnet9x. It allows for most of Adobe Flash 9 and partially 10 to run on Windows 95 and NT 3.5 using wrappers, whereas the official minimum for FP9 is Windows 98 and 2000. Downloads and src are on Codeberg

Known problems:
- SWFs compiled for Adobe Flash 10 don't run at all
- flash.net.SharedObject, used for storing local data, doesn't work since I dunno how to get a directory handle on old win32
- Browsing for SWFs doesn't work
^{Keep in mind that I'm quite new to C}

On 95.png

^{It also works on stock 95 RTM}

On NT 3.5.png

Recently, I also got it to launch on NT 3.1, though it cannot draw anything to the screen yet:

On NT 3.1.png

^{The DLL Initialization Failed is because my wrapper tried to load WinG, which requires at least NT 3.5 or win32s.}
I've neglected to publishing the code for that port, though I plan to do it eventually in a branch.

On Windows 3.1 with win32s, it just doesn't launch for some reason.

Edit: Added repo/download link, oopsies!

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Community Projects :: Adobe Flash 9 on Windows 95 and NT 3.5 :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-21T18:32:24+00:00

Heathercat123 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2026, 14:27 Here's a little project that I "made" last year and then mostly abandoned, based on MattKC's dotnet9x. It allows for most of Adobe Flash 9 and partially 10 to run on Windows 95 and NT 3.5 using wrappers, whereas the official minimum for FP9 is Windows 98 and 2000. Downloads and src are on Codeberg

Nice work, well done!

Heathercat123 wrote: ↑21 Jul 2026, 14:27 On Windows 3.1 with win32s, it just doesn't launch for some reason.

On my Windows 3.11 VM with Win32s and WinG I'm getting a Win32s - Error: Invalid format.
And then an Unexpected error 21.

But don't bother with Windows 3.1

Community Projects :: Adobe Flash 9 on Windows 95 and NT 3.5 :: Reply by Heathercat123

2026-07-21T18:42:09+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑21 Jul 2026, 18:32 On my Windows 3.11 VM with Win32s and WinG I'm getting a Win32s - Error: Invalid format.
And then an Unexpected error 21.

Yeah, I haven't updated the repo yet, sorry!

Edit: It's published now: https://codeberg.org/heathercat123/flash95/releases/tag/threepointone

Community Projects :: Adobe Flash 9 on Windows 95 and NT 3.5 :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-21T19:48:39+00:00

I wasn't clear enough, I've tried it on Windows 3.11, as you mentioned Windows 3.1 with Win32s, but not on NT 3.1

So no worries and don't bother with the old Windows 3.1

Community Projects :: Adobe Flash 9 on Windows 95 and NT 3.5 :: Reply by wuggy

2026-07-22T23:50:33+00:00

How the hell did you manage to do that?

Community Projects :: Adobe Flash 9 on Windows 95 and NT 3.5 :: Reply by Heathercat123

2026-07-25T16:58:47+00:00

wuggy wrote: ↑22 Jul 2026, 23:50 How the hell did you manage to do that?

It kind of just worked after adding a few stubs to dotnet9x.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by wuggy

2026-07-27T00:36:45+00:00

https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae/UXP/releases/tag/13.2

Dactyloidae 13.2 for Windows 2000 and above and Linux for x86_64 or LoongArch64 is finally here, after 3 months of development

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by omegabr

2026-07-28T23:16:12+00:00

wuggy wrote: ↑27 Jul 2026, 00:36 https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae/UXP/releases/tag/13.2

Dactyloidae 13.2 for Windows 2000 and above and Linux for x86_64 or LoongArch64 is finally here, after 3 months of development

is it possible to build dactyloidae with gtk2?

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by wuggy

2026-07-29T00:37:15+00:00

omegabr wrote: ↑28 Jul 2026, 23:16
wuggy wrote: ↑27 Jul 2026, 00:36 https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae/UXP/releases/tag/13.2

Dactyloidae 13.2 for Windows 2000 and above and Linux for x86_64 or LoongArch64 is finally here, after 3 months of development
is it possible to build dactyloidae with gtk2?

Hasn’t been tested like at all but should work no issues

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by wuggy

2026-07-29T00:39:20+00:00

Oh yeah I’ll need to work on getting optimisations on Linux, it’s a bit bare as of now. 13.2.1 should add GTK2 and optimisations for Linux

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by omegabr

2026-07-29T20:19:24+00:00

wuggy wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 00:39 Oh yeah I’ll need to work on getting optimisations on Linux, it’s a bit bare as of now. 13.2.1 should add GTK2 and optimisations for Linux

how can i remove or disable the default theme?

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by wuggy

2026-07-29T20:47:37+00:00

omegabr wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 20:19
wuggy wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 00:39 Oh yeah I’ll need to work on getting optimisations on Linux, it’s a bit bare as of now. 13.2.1 should add GTK2 and optimisations for Linux
how can i remove or disable the default theme?

Uhhhh you don’t as of now, I’m working to add an option to revert back to Basilisk’s default theme

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by wuggy

2026-07-29T21:00:06+00:00

Also, how the hell did you find out about my browser? Genuinely curious as I’ve never seen so many people be so curious about it

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by omegabr

2026-07-30T00:30:42+00:00

wuggy wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 21:00 Also, how the hell did you find out about my browser? Genuinely curious as I’ve never seen so many people be so curious about it

i remembered lun3r existed and decided to check the forums

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by wuggy

2026-07-31T07:13:30+00:00

My CPU literally cannot handle building two binaries for the same OS arch just because it's GTK2, is there any other solution I can do?

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by wuggy

2026-08-01T01:19:03+00:00

https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae/UXP/releases/tag/13.2.1-rc1

13.2.1 rc1 out now with the features I wanted to add for 13.2 but lazy and rushed it

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by omegabr

2026-08-01T02:43:36+00:00

wuggy wrote: ↑31 Jul 2026, 07:13 My CPU literally cannot handle building two binaries for the same OS arch just because it's GTK2, is there any other solution I can do?

Maybe build gtk3 first, you could also have the user do the gtk2 build

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by JodyThornton

2026-08-14T00:48:57+00:00

I see they locked this topic on the Pale Moon Forum. How fast is it with heavier, modern sites? (such as Facebook, YouTube, etc ...)

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-16T16:50:49+00:00

Where to start, where to start? ...

1) accessing this website (and MSFN) both continue to be a PAIN IN THE F&CKING A$$ !!!
2) i was bored so figured i'd give an answer as this has been unanswered for a few days
3) figured i'd use Win7 to test
4) tried a few "tiny7" VMs but none would connect to internet
5) found a "super lite 7" and liking it so far from within VM

6) downloaded and extracted this browser BUT IT DOES NOT WORK "out of the box"
7) had to fetch msvcp140 dll but STILL DID NOT WORK
8) had to fetch vcruntime140 dll but STILL DID NOT WORK
9) had to fetch api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0 but STILL DID NOT WORK
10) tried api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0 from Official Pale Moon but STILL DID NOT WORK
11) tried api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0 from e3k-blah's Firefox but STILL DID NOT WORK

12) tried logging in to Eclipse but WHAT A F&CKING POS this web site has become FOR THE END USER to *ACCESS*
13) i don't care how much of an "opinion" we all have for Cloudflare and Anubis but there comes a point where ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
14) at least people can *ACCESS* sites that are "protected" by Cloudflare and Anubis
15) accessing Eclipse (and MSFN) [both deadset "against" Cloudflare and Anubis] is just plain **IMPOSSIBLE**
16) the end user has to bend over and just take it up the A$$ whenever trying to access Eclipse and MSFN

17) still no clue why Dact-eye-blah WILL NOT WORK on this Win7 (sure, it's a VM and not "real", but SHOULD NOT MATTER)

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-16T19:01:16+00:00

I can't get this browser to work in Win10 LTSC 21H2 either.
After fetching msvcp140, vcruntime140, and vcruntime140_1, this is the error that Win10 gives.

This Win10 test and the previous Win7 test were both done with the latest version.
I know I had this browser working when using a previous version, unsure which version it was on at the time.

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by JodyThornton

2026-08-17T01:12:26+00:00

The first time I tried it (I think it was April) it did work in Windows 8 no problem. It seemed a tad slower. I really liked the MS Edge style appearance. So before installing it again, I thought I'd try seeing what others' opinions were first.

Wuggy responded somewhere (I think it was GitHub) and said that YouTube worked pretty decently on it. Anyway 10-Pen, I appreciate your trying

PS. Yes - Both Eclipse and MSFN are running like sludge. So who needs to make changes here? Redacted?

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-17T08:00:16+00:00

The 13.1 works for me, just not the 13.2.x "release candidate".
I compared YouTube in 13.1 to YouTube in Official Pale Moon and they were basically identical.
Which, to me, means SLOW AS H#LL.
But I have Win10 and I'm not "bogged down" with crap OSs which tie my hands on what browsers I can use.
I really (REALLY!) do not understand the "fascination" with UXP.
Speedometer (I use 2.1) scores really tell a lot. UXP browsers literally score one TENTH that of Chromium.
And the e3k-blah forks work in XP and 7.

Seriously, "riddle me this", why in H#ll do people run UXP ??? ??? ???

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-17T08:19:25+00:00

Dact-eye-blah v13.1 compared directly to e3k-blah on Win10.
Results are basically identical in Win7 (I will gladly screencap as proof if needed).

If there is a *REASON* to run UXP, that is one thing, but if no such reason really exists, then seriously, *wtf* ?!

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-17T08:57:04+00:00

This is e3k-blah's Firefox compared directly to Dact-eye-blah UXP.

Again, serious question.
If there is a *REASON* to run UXP, let's hear it, otherwise, you only bring about your own pain and suffering by that "limitation".

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by wuggy

2026-08-17T09:00:24+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑17 Aug 2026, 08:19 If there is a *REASON* to run UXP, that is one thing, but if no such reason really exists, then seriously, *wtf* ?!

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I'm working on a port to WebKit for Dact 14.0.
The reason why I stuck with UXP was because of the lack of Rust, and I found out WebKit is better in (almost) EVERY WAY. There are still some bugs and lack of features that I need to address.

WebKit is faster then modern Firefox, and is barely behind Chrome.

The other issue I need to address in WebKit is lack of extension support, in which I'll just copy Chrome's implementation for such.

I basically gave up on UXP, and the 13 series will be the last series to be based on UXP.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by wuggy

2026-08-17T09:05:53+00:00

wuggy wrote: ↑17 Aug 2026, 09:00 I basically gave up on UXP, and the 13 series will be the last series to be based on UXP.

PS.

The UXP team are incredibly toxic, and props to them for basically killing any interest of mine to maintain their shitty engine. I'm basically done trying to fix the thousands of issues they made, and giving ME crap for trying to fix them!

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by wuggy

2026-08-17T09:17:20+00:00

Done trying to pretend everything is sunshine and rainbows over at Pale Moon/Basilisk/Dactyloidae. UXP/Goanna is falling apart by the minute, and Tobin was the one holding it together, and Moonchild doesn't want to admit it.

Since Tobin left, everyone and their grandmother wants to be the next Tobin, when they pretend to make Goanna better, but in reality, they're slowly killing it. I admit I fell into that trap too.

Basilisk-Dev finally admitted something I warned them about for months on end, single process is not enough now, with it's endless freezes, and he decided to vibe-code a Fission clone for UXP. I know how controversial multi-process is, I get it, but you have to accept it at some point. There's no point on board a sinking ship, on fire too because they're at least 3 years behind on web standards (and we're just talking JS!)

I know Dactyloidae was just a bunch of speedhacks on top of a shitty engine, but at least I tried to fix the other major issue in UXP, speed. For around a decade, Pale Moon was easily considered the slowest browser because again, no multiprocessing and Moonchild focusing on anything BUT performance. There only was a sudden change in shift for performance because me and Basilisk-Dev split off into our own fucking tree where we fixed half the problems with UXP in 2 weeks. Moonchild found out, had a child tantrum, Basilisk-Dev then unexpectedly blocked me on Telegram (the main communication platform for our UXP tree) and I got banned roughly a day later.

Was my ban planned by Basilisk-Dev all along? Who fucking knows. Was it all bullshit? Absolutely.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-17T09:26:35+00:00

That all sounds like GOOD NEWS to me.
I'm not talking about the "community bans", I haven't followed those since the Tobin Departure.
I saw both sides there, and even then it was clear that I was in the MINORITY in thinking TOBIN WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG.

But "in these circles" (MSFN at the time), Tobin was FALSELY thought of as "bad" because everybody (and I do mean *everybody*) was too worried about KISSING ROYTAM'S A$$.

I get it, I really do, I have done my own projects over the years.
But mine have been very limited in comparison to folks like e3k.
I was never going to achieve that "level" of programming skill.
To me, it's just a HOBBY.

But hobby or not, I need a browser that WORKS and logging in to pay utility bills (as an example) shouldn't be a "hobby".

Keep up the great work!
As "negative" as I may come across at times, these projects are a great deal of fun.
But, to me, they are just a HOBBY.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-17T09:35:45+00:00

ps, my OCD Side is really loving the symmetry of these scores.

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Suggestions :: Dark Mode :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-07-29T23:34:41+00:00

I wish I could make it but I'm strangling with the userChrome.css.
It's a bit problem to me as with Plasmafox on dark backgrounds (dark theme) I can't see clearly which tab is active/selected.
This because the tab hover/selected color is dark-on-bright but also dark-on-dark.
I can use the "Firefox Color" extension and change the active tab font color but still.

Suggestions :: Dark Mode :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-08-02T12:36:49+00:00

AntonyMan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 23:34 I wish I could make it but I'm strangling with the userChrome.css.
It's a bit problem to me as with Plasmafox on dark backgrounds (dark theme) I can't see clearly which tab is active/selected.
This because the tab hover/selected color is dark-on-bright but also dark-on-dark.
I can use the "Firefox Color" extension and change the active tab font color but still.

Well not related to the issue the post is about, but you could try to play around with some of the settings under r3dfox configurations. Using different r3dfox color schemes, or disabling r3dfox theme styles or backgrounds for tabs and such. Or force enabling aero fog and stuff.

You could also use the light theme in the browser for the tabbar and co but under general settings have Website appearance set to Dark. So only your tabbar will be light and everything else will be dark.

Suggestions :: Dark Mode :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-02T13:18:34+00:00

AntonyMan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 23:34 on dark backgrounds (dark theme) I can't see clearly which tab is active/selected.

Not a problem for me. I'm using the dark mode + dark theme + Windows 10 theme and the active tab has a purple line on top of it.

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Suggestions :: Dark Mode :: Reply by AntonyMan

2026-08-02T15:11:41+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑02 Aug 2026, 13:18
AntonyMan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 23:34 on dark backgrounds (dark theme) I can't see clearly which tab is active/selected.
Not a problem for me. I'm using the dark mode + dark theme + Windows 10 theme and the active tab has a purple line on top of it.
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What if using "Temporary Containers" or any other extension which colored the different container/tab?
The difference (contrast) is very small. Normally the (semi-tranparent) hover should be Dark-on-Bright or Bright-on-Dark.

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Suggestions :: Dark Mode :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-08-02T15:20:14+00:00

AntonyMan wrote: ↑02 Aug 2026, 15:11
Duke wrote: ↑02 Aug 2026, 13:18
AntonyMan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2026, 23:34 on dark backgrounds (dark theme) I can't see clearly which tab is active/selected.
Not a problem for me. I'm using the dark mode + dark theme + Windows 10 theme and the active tab has a purple line on top of it.
R3dfox-Tabs.png
What if I using "Temporary Containers" or any other extension which colored the different container/tab?
The difference (contrast) is very small. Normally the (semi-tranparent) hover should be Dark-on-Bright or Bright-on-Dark.

Ah yeah that issue
I keep meaning to look into it but I keep forgetting because I rarely ever use container tabs except for one off things.
The line at the bottom is supposed to always show, but the background applies over it making it dim, and the top should only show when selected.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-20T18:34:47+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑19 Jul 2026, 23:38
The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Jul 2026, 23:04 Tampermonkey (heavily modified to remove telemetry).
Sounds good. Is it available anywhere ?

Well, I guess it's been modified for Chrome but not for Firefox.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-07-20T20:02:46+00:00

I modify my own version.
Obtained directly from the author but modified on my end.
I do this with *ALL* of my extensions, none are ran "as-is / default".
In the case of Tampermonkey, the author codes in a "time bomb" to solicit for donations.
HATE *crap* like that !!! So it gets removed even before I ever ran it for the very first time.

General Chat :: A Hacker's Arrest Reveals Microsoft Can Track Users Via a Windows Device ID :: Author xperceniol_sal

2026-07-20T23:02:25+00:00

The FBI used a Microsoft device identifier, dubbed GDID, to link a teenager to a hack attributed to Scattered Spider, raising privacy red flags about Windows' surveillance capabilities.
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The arrest of a teenage hacker has revealed that Microsoft can track a Windows PC and its online activity through a “Global Device ID" that seems to have no easy opt-out, sparking fears about potential surveillance.

Last week, the US announced it had extradited 19-year-old Peter Stokes from Europe for allegedly being a member of the notorious hacking group Scattered Spider. But the case stands out because Microsoft played a key role in linking Stokes to the suspected hacking crimes, according to an unsealed criminal complaint.
Peter Stokes
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Stokes allegedly hacked an unnamed luxury jewelry retailer in May 2025 while using a VPN. The 39-page criminal complaint shows the FBI used Microsoft records to discover that his IP address was associated with a Microsoft device identifier known as Global Device ID (GDID).

“According to a Microsoft representative, a Global Device Identifier in the Windows ecosystem is a persistent, device-level identifier designed to uniquely identify an installation of a Windows operating system on a device, either a physical device (e.g., a mobile phone or laptop) or virtual machine, across certain Microsoft services and scenarios," the complaint explains.

The global device ID isn’t exactly surprising, given that it's standard practice to assign a unique ID to each account or device so a tech provider can recognize and distinguish between them. But the complaint reveals Microsoft can associate the GDID with third-party services and the timing as well, giving Redmond a way to theoretically track a user’s online activity. In other words, Redmond might be able to track the online activity of your Windows PC without third-party browser cookies.
the complaint
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Stokes was discovered exploiting a web development tool called ngrok to bypass the jewelry retailer's network defenses. The complaint says Microsoft had records showing that on May 12, 2025, at 19:21 UTC, the GDID associated with Stokes’ computer “accessed, among other ngrok pages, 'https://dashboard[.]ngrok.com/signup,' the ngrok page to set up an ngrok account.”

The document adds that Microsoft records also showed the GDID accessing “multiple sites” from servers at Tzulo, a web hosting provider, to help pull off the hack.
diagram of identifiers
The GDID for Stokes' PC was allegedly 6755467234350028. (Credit: DOJ)

Hence, the fact that federal investigators used the Microsoft identifier to nab a suspected hacker is raising concerns that it could be abused for other surveillance purposes. “Microsoft Windows is surveillance software,” cybersecurity expert Matthew Hickey alleged in a tweet.

The device ID is mentioned briefly on this support page, but Microsoft hasn't otherwise commented on it publicly. According to the criminal complaint, a Windows user can reset the GDID on their own, although it's not easy. “A GDID remains consistent across Windows operating system updates on a device, but a reinstall of Windows, either on the same device or on a different device, will be tied to a new unique GDID,” the court document says. In a footnote, it adds, “Thus, one Microsoft user could have multiple GDIDs.”
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Still, we suspect it wouldn’t be hard for Microsoft to tie a newly set GDID to the old one, since the company could look at other identifiers, such as a Microsoft account login or an IP address, and match them. In response to the surveillance potential, some users have already been exploring ways to contain and scrub the GDID identifier.

Meanwhile, cybersecurity researcher Costin Raiu is questioning whether other tech companies have the same surveillance capabilities, given the use of unique identifiers.

"I would also ask: how much of this is happening on Apple devices? Is it on the same scale? Is it happening at an even higher level — do they tie it to the hardware, so that even if you reinstall, it doesn’t matter, because it’s hardware-based?" he said in the Three Buddy Problem podcast. "Very likely it’s not unique to Microsoft. And probably, if you want to be fully anonymous, you may at some point have to use Linux, FreeBSD, whatever, for your development environments, and tunnel everything through proxies, Tor, VPNs, and such."

https://www.pcmag.com/news/a-hackers-arrest-reveals-microsoft-can-track-users-via-a-windows-device

General Chat :: A Hacker's Arrest Reveals Microsoft Can Track Users Via a Windows Device ID :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-21T01:43:00+00:00

We talked about that in the Windows 11 forum

https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=9223#p9223

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-07-20T22:29:44+00:00

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2026-07-26T00:59:56+00:00

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-04T06:57:27+00:00

AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE

Took 15/20 minutes just to make ONE D@MN POST !!!

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-04T07:00:03+00:00

Serious Question !!!

Both *HERE* at Eclipse and over at MSFN have turned into an ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE to visit.
An ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE.

VVVEEERRRYYY LLLOOONNNGGG DDDEEELLLAAAYYYSSS !!!
Waiting, waiting, waiting for the d@mn page to load.
Click a link, wait some d@mn more !!!

SERIOUSLY - is it BECAUSE of the owner here and at MSFN being "deadset against" anything like CLOUDFLARE or ANUBIS ??? !!! ???
At some point in time, the USER EXPERIENCE has to take a higher priority than the bullsh#t experience of these d@mn page load delays !!!

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-05T08:25:25+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑04 Aug 2026, 06:57 AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE
Took 15/20 minutes just to make ONE D@MN POST !!!

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑04 Aug 2026, 07:00 Serious Question !!!
VVVEEERRRYYY LLLOOONNNGGG DDDEEELLLAAAYYYSSS !!!
Waiting, waiting, waiting for the d@mn page to load.
Click a link, wait some d@mn more !!!

SERIOUSLY - is it BECAUSE of the owner here and at MSFN being "deadset against" anything like CLOUDFLARE or ANUBIS ??? !!! ???
At some point in time, the USER EXPERIENCE has to take a higher priority than the bullsh#t experience of these d@mn page load delays !!!

Yes, yes, yes and YES.
Pure hell for at least FIVE DAYS NON STOP. At any hour.

Something MUST be done.
NOW!

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-07-21T00:23:56+00:00

After returning to this great forum I realized perhaps I should have stayed gone from computer forums and just stay on my mental health forum for now. Besides, this is unhealthy for me and I'm honestly not doing very well anyway. I'm in full psychosis and I'm working hard to get myself back to somewhat normal. So for now, I'll also be taking a short break (won't even read) and maybe one day I'll return. My paranoia has shot through the roof this evening and this isn't good.

Folks I'm trying my hardest to get past addiction to prescription medications and I wrongly thought this would help to get back in touch with old forum friends. For now, I"ll leave my account open and if I'm unable to contribute better, I'll ask the admin here to close my account. I need to get outside more as my agoraphobia is kicking back in. Sorry possum for choosing your thread to exit but I always considered you to be a good friend and perhaps I should take a page from your book and disappear.

Anyways:

I hope you are enjoying a nice life down there and I do think of you often with fond memories. I will always remember the friendship between K4sum1 and I, but maybe its time to cut ties for health reason(s). Besides, I'm the only of few people here still using XP and this forum is for Vista and 7 users. I would go full Linux at some point given the choice.

I mean, hey, I can't complain too much, I had a good run but I need to focus on real life now and somehow (no idea how) but to stop this cycle and now is the time. Also I pissed off Duke for deleting 3 postings about depression accusing me of ruining threads (my own thread - go figure that). Its Okay and OK and I was wrong, but I'm only human and just trying to survive my day-today happenings. I NEVER claimed to be perfect and I'm mentally ill. I'm not happy and that is bad. Just taking it day-by-day now and I never know what I'm going to wake up to in the morning now. Struggling folks.

All the best to you old buddy and thank you for just being YOU. Never apologize to anybody, and remember, you are human and we are all imperfect. Nobody is perfect and watch out for those that claim otherwise.

All the best to the Eclipse community and everybody try to be healthy and happy if possible - not easy in this toxic society that hates me.

Bye bye for now and no reply needed

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-21T01:58:28+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑21 Jul 2026, 00:23 For now, I"ll leave my account open and if I'm unable to contribute better, I'll ask the admin here to close my account.

I see no good reason for closing your account and you may regret it later.
You need a break ? No problem, just do it and come back whenever you want, whenever you feel it's ok for you.
It's not that important. This is just a forum, use it at will. Nothing to justify to anyone.

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑21 Jul 2026, 00:23 I need to get outside more

Good idea, that's always better than staying in front of a computer 16 hours a day

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑21 Jul 2026, 00:23 I would go full Linux at some point given the choice.

Same, I'll fully go the Linux way sooner or later but surely not the Windows 11 route.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-07-23T11:08:48+00:00

Thank you, Duke and I'll leave my account open because I might regret it later but I will take that break for maybe a few months to recover. Besides I wasn't doing very well that evening I wrote that. I did get outside yesterday two times and it was strange but I know I need sun.

I hope you are well.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by Duke

2026-07-23T13:45:22+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑23 Jul 2026, 11:08 I did get outside yesterday two times and it was strange but I know I need sun.

Good news
Don't give up the fight, never forget that devils are in your head

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-08-08T12:10:05+00:00

I pretty much don't have anything to contribute to any (computer) forum at this point. Just grinding through existence. The amount of commits I have made to software at work since gaining access to source repo is crazy. Modern developers are just useless with the amount of slop they produce.

I see Linux being promoted left and right on just about any forum you go to. Seems it's all over YouTube too. But honestly, I'd rather not use a computer than deal with nightmare that is Linux.

The way IT has gone, the only sane thing left long-term seems to be to shun the whole thing.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-09T03:26:02+00:00

UCyborg wrote: ↑08 Aug 2026, 12:10 The way IT has gone, the only sane thing left long-term seems to be to shun the whole thing.

Too late, not possible anymore in this world.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-09T09:30:15+00:00

UCyborg wrote: ↑08 Aug 2026, 12:10 I see Linux being promoted left and right on just about any forum you go to. Seems it's all over YouTube too. But honestly, I'd rather not use a computer than deal with nightmare that is Linux.

AGREED !!!
I learned that lesson FORTY YEARS AGO !!!
I've been grabbing Linux versions here and there for FORTY YEARS.
And what was true FORTY YEARS ago is STILL TRUE today.
It is for the HOBBYIST, plain and simple.
I can get just as much "done", and have just as much "fun", by firing up the COMMODORE 64 emulator!
But as far as getting "real work done", Linux is just a PITA and really no different than a dog chasing its own tail or running a UXP Browser.

And as far as being "promoted left and right", the same B&LLSH#T goes hand in hand with FIREFOX.
All this reveals is the "depths" the THREE PERCENT will *TROLL* the 'net to promote their SH#T.

When it comes right down to it, there are MILLIONS of reasons why Firefox only has 3 to 4 percent of the global market share.
And MILLIONS of reasons why Linux only has a 4 to 5 percent of the global desktop market share.

Sure, one could "argue" that 100% of the world's top 500 "supercomputers" in 2024 were running Linux.
But these "supercomputers" are THOUSANDS of dollars and have personnel making way above average salaries to run and maintain.
It is NOT for the "home user", plain and simple.

It is GREAT as a HOBBY.
But so is my Commodore 64 emulator! And about just as "useful".

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-09T11:27:30+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026, 09:30 And MILLIONS of reasons why Linux only has a 4 to 5 percent of the global desktop market share.

The main reason is because Bill Gates had the brilliant idea, brilliant for Microsoft, to sell Windows preinstalled on new computers.
So people got used to that and didn't look elsewhere for an alternative OS. Back in time, Microsoft was never able to make a working OS and had to buy parts, and DOS first, from third party companies here and there.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-09T13:14:42+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026, 11:27
The-10-Pen wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026, 09:30 And MILLIONS of reasons why Linux only has a 4 to 5 percent of the global desktop market share.
The main reason is because Bill Gates had the brilliant idea, brilliant for Microsoft, to sell Windows preinstalled on new computers.
So people got used to that and didn't look elsewhere for an alternative OS. Back in time, Microsoft was never able to make a working OS and had to buy parts, and DOS first, from third party companies here and there.

I do *NOT* buy into that "logic". But keep drinkin' that Kool Aid.
That "logic" ONLY works if people that get that preinstalled OS *never* try different OS's. They do!
But how many of them do is indeed up for "debate".

But for people like me that *have tried* Linux. Over and over and over and over again. And again. And again.
But KEEP RETURNING TO WINDOWS is *WHY* that market dominance exists !!!
We tried Linux. HATED IT! Keep giving it the benefit of the doubt and KEEP TRYING IT.
But it *FAILS* (for us) and so we keep RETURNING to that "preinstalled" OS.

But I haven't ran a "preinstalled" OS in nearly 20yrs. So explain that one?
Linux SUCKS. Hardware compatibility is why Linux SUCKS. Microsoft just does a million times better at supporting a diverse range of hardware.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-09T13:17:17+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/10hxfxi/switched_back_to_windows_after_a_year_and_a_half/
https://linuxblog.io/after-10-yrs-of-linux-switched-to-windows-what-next/

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-08-09T14:12:02+00:00

I cannot stand either Chromium or Firefox. I only use Chromium occasionally on Android and as a last resort on desktop. But my web use is minimal, I can avoid them most of the time. I thought using Pale Moon was frustrating, but using either Chromium or Firefox on desktop is torture. From font rendering that hurts my eyes to crapping out on videos permanently so that it needs a restart...

Duke wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026, 03:26
UCyborg wrote: ↑08 Aug 2026, 12:10 The way IT has gone, the only sane thing left long-term seems to be to shun the whole thing.
Too late, not possible anymore in this world.

I can already minimize computer use at home if I want. But older stuff still works fine so I guess there isn't a pressing reason to worry at this time. And by the time I'll have to re-consider my software choices, I may not even be alive anymore.

The shithole of a workplace, well, the one good thing about it is I'm not pressed to update. Not yet at least. I suppose I'll have to dance with ExplorerPatcher and neutralizing auto-updates again if Win11 becomes mandatory for some reason.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-09T14:46:47+00:00

UCyborg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026, 14:12 I thought using Pale Moon was frustrating, but using either Chromium or Firefox on desktop is torture. From font rendering that hurts my eyes to crapping out on videos permanently so that it needs a restart...

AGREED !!!

But there are two ways to "resolve".
1) Just trust the developer to fix them "for you".
2) Fix them YOURSELF and cut that tie to the developer's timeline.

Userstyles and userscripts are your FRIENDS.
And in the world of "AI" (love it or hate it), *anybody* can quickly become proficient at them!

You first have to isolate the root cause of your font rendering issues.
Bad font rendering literally gives me migraines, so "I feel your pain".
But what causes me "pain" may not be the same as what causes you "pain".

Sometimes (especially for you folks that always compare a desktop rendering to an ANDROID rendering) it can be nothing more than SCREEN WIDTH.
And how your "visual eye to text coordination" is processed by your brain.
To some, rotating their widescreen display from "left to right wide" to "top to bottom high" is all that it takes.
Cuts down on the vertical scrolling width so that the eye coordination can keep track of what line it is on when it ends one line and starts the next.

I personally apply "shadows" to **ALL** text so that "subpixel" BS is "corrected".
The shadow fills in the "half pixel" and the subpixel aliasing is "shifted" or eliminated entirely due to the "shadow".

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-09T14:58:40+00:00

Here is a "before" and "after" of how I use a SHADOW to effect font readability.
The key is the ORANGE / BROWN pixels of this BLACK FONT.
These are magnified FIVE HUNDRED PERCENT.
When viewed "normal scale" (no magnification), those ORANGE / BROWN pixels come across as BLUR BLUR BLUR.

BEFORE:

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AFTER:

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General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-08-09T15:07:15+00:00

I'm done wasting time with Chromium and Firefox. They're not for me. The problem with fonts in both lie with Skia, which both enforce. CSS hacks don't work for me. I have neither time, desire or resources to re-write them to use native font rendering. There are other problems, I cannot tolerate their UI in general. And I won't be wasting time with debugging them when I have the option that works better for ME. I don't even have the computer that's being able to build them.

They go against everything I want in a web browser, so I'll pass. I'm fine with Pale Moon and shunning things that don't work with it. I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by ignoring most of the bloated and poorly designed web that is out there.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-09T15:19:32+00:00

AGREED.

I'm in the same boat. We both need what works for "me".
I've used a vast variety of browsers over the years (many that you've probably never heard of).
For "me", I'm done with the "concept" of using this browser for this, that browser for that, and still a third for whatever.
I really am *DONE* with that bouncing around from one to the next.
And I will *NOT* do "Windows for this" and "Android for that" !!!
One for 80% of my activity, another for 15% of my activity, a third for 5% of my activity.
Then being turned into an insane dog chasing its tail on remember what browser is for what.
Or strolling along in that 80% browser only to have to divert to another.
***DONE***
I really need *ONE* browser for EVERYTHING that I do. And I do mean **EVERYTHING**.
I kind of laugh my arse off with each and every "roytam" or "feodor" release.
I applaud the endeavor, I really do, but I haven't been able to do *EVERYTHING* in *ANY OF THEM* for several years.
And no amount of "weekly updates" is ever going to change that.

So yeah, I have become "reduced to" taking the good with the bad as far as configurability and just sticking with that ONE browser that can do EVERYTHING.
I really am "done" with the infuriation of rolling along and having to switch to a different browser for the sake of a "needed" web site.
Be it research, be it just catching sports scores, be it online banking, be it Amazon, be it YouTube.
I just need ONE FOR ALL.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-08-09T15:39:37+00:00

Yeah, hopping between them is definitely frustrating.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-09T16:50:12+00:00

In the end, I predict/forecast that it is a mute point because there *WILL* come a day that nobody can even access the web sites that promote any alternatives. Anybody that has "tried" to access THIS SITE &/or sites like MSFN know all too well that the "old school" folks that own these types of sites are so "deadset" against things like CLOUDFLARE or ANUBIS that this site and MSFN will be outright "57005" (hex=DEAD) within a few months!

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-10T12:26:44+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026, 13:14 That "logic" ONLY works if people that get that preinstalled OS *never* try different OS's. They do!

No, they don't. Most people I know are not tech savvy at all, they just buy a new PC at the big store, go back to home and run it like it is.
They don't even know that other OSes exist. And that's the big success of Microsoft: for most people a PC = Windows.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026, 13:14 But I haven't ran a "preinstalled" OS in nearly 20yrs. So explain that one?

You are not the whole world. See above.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026, 13:14 Hardware compatibility is why Linux SUCKS. Microsoft just does a million times better at supporting a diverse range of hardware.

This is not true anymore. For both Linux and Windows. Recent and modern distros of Linux have a good hardware support whilst Windows 11 dropped support for some devices.
An example from one of my friends who has a basic generic USB mouse which has natively worked for years on Windows 7, 8 and 10. Plug and play. So he plugged it into his brand new Windows 11 PC and...nothing. It doesn't work. We tried it again on Windows 10: no problem. Back to Windows 11: no way. Support dropped for a very generic device. Why ?

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-10T13:55:34+00:00

Fair enough.
We clearly run in VERY different circles.
The only (and I really do mean *ONLY*) people that I know that do not install non-preinstalled OSs are people that DO NOT EVEN OWN A COMPUTER, they do everything on a MOBILE PHONE and its "preinstalled OS" and "laugh" at us that use "real" computers.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-10T14:06:42+00:00

ps - I also include WORK computers in regard to not running "preinstalled" OSs.
Every company I know, be it my employer or my circle of friends or my family, the IT department does the "install" and I don't count that as among "preinstalled".

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-08-10T18:51:05+00:00

What kind of mouse is that? It sounds to me like it's doing something "non-standard". And maybe Windows 11 dropped that "non-standard" bit, in the name of code cleanup or something. Just a speculation.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-10T19:29:13+00:00

And do you have the make and model number of that mouse? I'm kind of finding it hard to believe, to be honest.

But I also have zero HOME experience with Win11 (my two newest computers came with 11, but I installed Win10 LTSC 2021 on both and never even powered it up with the preinstalled 11).

And I don't classify the WORK Win11 as a "preinstalled" OS, it is controlled and maintained and distributed and anything-everything by IT.
I couldn't really tell you how much (or how little) the IT Dept does to it.
(not enough, in my opinion, why is XBOX and SOLITAIRE and CANDY CRUSH on my WORK computer?)
(just REVEALS how STUPID our IT is, if you ask me! [sure, they disable them from executing, but they shouldn't "be" there AT ALL])

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-10T20:21:03+00:00

As I said, it's a very basic generic USB mouse which is natively working on every version of Windows but Windows 11. It's also working fine on Android tablets. I don't remember the brand and the model, it's not mine. But I was there when my friend tried it on Windows 11.

Same goes for a HP 4630 printer. You plug it on Windows 7-8-10 and no problem, it's automatically installed by the system, no need to install any driver at all. But NOT on Windows 11. Support dropped by Windows 11 and HP has no updated driver for it. They want you to send it to the bin and to buy a new one even though this printer is still working fine.

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-10T20:23:22+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026, 14:58 Here is a "before" and "after" of how I use a SHADOW to effect font readability.
The key is the ORANGE / BROWN pixels of this BLACK FONT.

How do you do that ?

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-10T20:27:12+00:00

Just how "generic" is that mouse? Does it have a "roller ball" on the bottom? Or a laser light reflecting off the table?

Printer does not surprise me at all! I've witnessed that with Win10 and "old" printers.

The mouse really does surprise me though. But anything is possible.
I'd stop calling it a "generic" mouse though, I'd call it a "cheap generic".

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-08-10T20:29:50+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑10 Aug 2026, 20:23
The-10-Pen wrote: ↑09 Aug 2026, 14:58 Here is a "before" and "after" of how I use a SHADOW to effect font readability.
The key is the ORANGE / BROWN pixels of this BLACK FONT.
How do you do that ?

Code: Select all

// ==UserScript==
// @name - Fonts - Apply Text Shadow
// @match *://*/*
// @version 2.17.1
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==

'use strict';

var isRunning;

function applyFilter() {
    var AllElem=document.querySelectorAll(':not(script):not(style):not(area):not(base):not(br):not(col):not(embed):not(hr):not(img):not(input):not(keygen):not(link):not(meta):not(param):not(source):not(track):not(wbr):not(table):not(tbody):not(tr):not(ul)')
    for (var i=0;i0) {// is it a text node?
                if (window.getComputedStyle(AllElem[i]).getPropertyValue('text-shadow')=='none'){ // do not run if text-shadow is already present
                    var Col=window.getComputedStyle(AllElem[i]).getPropertyValue('color').replace(/[^\d,.]/g,'').split(',') // text color array (R/G/B/A)

                    if (typeof(Col[3])=='undefined'||Col[3].split('.')[0]=='1') { // run if element does not have an alpha channel  already applied
                        var Lum=Math.round(0.2126*Col[0]+0.7152*Col[1]+0.0722*Col[2]) // luminosity
                        var Opa=parseFloat(255*(255-Lum)/65025).toFixed(1) // opacity between 0 and 1
                        if (Lum<128) Opa=1
                        AllElem[i].style.setProperty('text-shadow','0 0 0px rgba('+Col[0]+','+Col[1]+','+Col[2]+','+Opa+')','important') // set text shadow with alpha
                    }
                }
            }
        }
    }
}

function waitAndApplyFilter() {
    if (typeof(isRunning)!='undefined') clearTimeout(isRunning)
    isRunning=setTimeout(function(){applyFilter()},100)
}

const callback = (mutationList, observer) => { // called every time BODY has changed
    for (const mutation of mutationList) {
        if (mutation.type === "childList") waitAndApplyFilter()
    }
};

applyFilter();

const targetNode = document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0]
// Options for the observer (which mutations to observe)
const config = { attributes: false, childList: true, subtree: true };
// Create an observer instance linked to the callback function
const observer = new MutationObserver(callback);
// Start observing the target node for configured mutations
observer.observe(targetNode, config);

General Chat :: Small Break From Eclipse :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-10T20:38:08+00:00

Again, it's NOT MINE. But it looks like a standard USB mouse you buy for 10 bucks at the supermarket. Yes it has a laser pointer. Left and right buttons and a wheel between them. Normal. GENERIC. Somehow 'classic', nothing fancy.
Maybe it's cheap but it's something which works on ANY DEVICE but Windows 11. ANY DEVICE. So when you use Windows 11 you must use an expensive mouse ?
Oh I forgot to say it's also working NATIVELY on Linux Mint.

General Chat :: Eclipse! :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-01T20:53:58+00:00

Total solar eclipse on the 12th of August but, of course, not for everyone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_August_12,_2026
https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-sets-coverage-for-august-northern-hemisphere-total-solar-eclipse/

General Chat :: Eclipse! :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-10T14:22:57+00:00

A map which estimates, point by point, how much of the visible eclipse really stays above the real horizon drawn by the relief.
Best in Western Europe, more than 90%, full 100% in North East Spain.

https://eclipsemap.xyz

General Chat :: Eclipse! :: Reply by Duke

2026-08-13T20:32:37+00:00

Short video:
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cn5npqy2e9yo