<![CDATA[Eclipse Community]]> https://board.eclipse.cx Smartfeed extension for phpBB <![CDATA[Compatibility Mods :: OpenJDK 21 for Vista x64 (no extended kernel required) :: Reply by xYannikx]]> 2025-07-15T14:53:41+00:00 2025-07-15T14:53:41+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=723&p=7162#p7162 ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[Research Network :: Looking for a fix to the VMware Workstation 16+ Vista guest DWM RAM leak :: Reply by WindowsDefen517]]> 2025-07-05T14:55:44+00:00 2025-07-05T14:55:44+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=846&p=7115#p7115 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UGX1r9jMZJwDukiI19FqaleUriH9qBvK/view?usp=sharing]]> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UGX1r9jMZJwDukiI19FqaleUriH9qBvK/view?usp=sharing]]> <![CDATA[Research Network :: Looking for a fix to the VMware Workstation 16+ Vista guest DWM RAM leak :: Reply by K4sum1]]> 2025-07-06T14:16:56+00:00 2025-07-06T14:16:56+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=846&p=7117#p7117 <![CDATA[Research Network :: Program that back or forward ports functionality between Windows versions :: Reply by K4sum1]]> 2025-07-27T23:32:47+00:00 2025-07-27T23:32:47+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=674&p=7198#p7198 <![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-06T20:51:06+00:00 2025-07-06T20:51:06+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7118#p7118
Duke wrote: 14 Jul 2024, 16:30 Something else Google is doing in Chromium based browsers (Chrome, Edge, Brave, other ?): the hidden and unremovable extension which grants access to private APIs giving full access to system / tab CPU usage, GPU usage, and memory usage to any *.google.com site:
https://simonwillison.net/2024/Jul/9/hangout_servicesthunkjs/

:evil:
Chromium, hence Chrome, will spy on your PC hardware:
https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/07/04/google-chrome-will-check-windows-11-eligibility-on-your-pc-for-windows-10-eol/]]>
Duke wrote: 14 Jul 2024, 16:30 Something else Google is doing in Chromium based browsers (Chrome, Edge, Brave, other ?): the hidden and unremovable extension which grants access to private APIs giving full access to system / tab CPU usage, GPU usage, and memory usage to any *.google.com site:
https://simonwillison.net/2024/Jul/9/hangout_servicesthunkjs/

:evil:
Chromium, hence Chrome, will spy on your PC hardware:
https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/07/04/google-chrome-will-check-windows-11-eligibility-on-your-pc-for-windows-10-eol/]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-07T09:20:37+00:00 2025-07-07T09:20:37+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7119#p7119
Duke wrote: 06 Jul 2025, 20:51 Chromium, hence Chrome, will spy on your PC hardware:
https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/07/04/google-chrome-will-check-windows-11-eligibility-on-your-pc-for-windows-10-eol/
No offense, but this (to me) demonstrates PERSONAL BIAS.

By all means, do a TINY bit of research on the matter and you WILL find that MOZILLA/FIREFOX DOES THIS ALSO !!!
Perhaps even MORESO.
No, not for "Win11 eligibility", but hardware data IS COLLECTED !!!

I have personally tried (IN VAIN) to block the HUNDREDS of telemetry connections that Mozilla/Firefox makes.
Especially that FIRST LAUNCH on any new profile.

I do like IceCat, but I have a hunch that nobody here has even heard of it.
But even if they did, they're not using it as no topics are discussed here regarding it.
I couldn't get one of my bank/billpay "MFA" to work in IceCat, or it would probably be my default browser.]]>
Duke wrote: 06 Jul 2025, 20:51 Chromium, hence Chrome, will spy on your PC hardware:
https://www.windowslatest.com/2025/07/04/google-chrome-will-check-windows-11-eligibility-on-your-pc-for-windows-10-eol/
No offense, but this (to me) demonstrates PERSONAL BIAS.

By all means, do a TINY bit of research on the matter and you WILL find that MOZILLA/FIREFOX DOES THIS ALSO !!!
Perhaps even MORESO.
No, not for "Win11 eligibility", but hardware data IS COLLECTED !!!

I have personally tried (IN VAIN) to block the HUNDREDS of telemetry connections that Mozilla/Firefox makes.
Especially that FIRST LAUNCH on any new profile.

I do like IceCat, but I have a hunch that nobody here has even heard of it.
But even if they did, they're not using it as no topics are discussed here regarding it.
I couldn't get one of my bank/billpay "MFA" to work in IceCat, or it would probably be my default browser.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-07T16:53:53+00:00 2025-07-07T16:53:53+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7121#p7121
The-10-Pen wrote: 07 Jul 2025, 09:20 By all means, do a TINY bit of research on the matter and you WILL find that MOZILLA/FIREFOX DOES THIS ALSO !!!
I have personally tried (IN VAIN) to block the HUNDREDS of telemetry connections that Mozilla/Firefox makes.
The reason why I'm using LibreWolf and R3dfox ;)]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 07 Jul 2025, 09:20 By all means, do a TINY bit of research on the matter and you WILL find that MOZILLA/FIREFOX DOES THIS ALSO !!!
I have personally tried (IN VAIN) to block the HUNDREDS of telemetry connections that Mozilla/Firefox makes.
The reason why I'm using LibreWolf and R3dfox ;)]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-07T17:53:07+00:00 2025-07-07T17:53:07+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7123#p7123 I do know how to test nowadays and R3DFOX has a crapload of telemetry !!! An outright crapload !!!
How much is just for a "new profile" and how much can be prevented is unknown on my end.
That's not intended as "disrespect" towards R3dfox - but it is Mozilla and has the Mozilla telemetry -- period.
I just know for a FACT that there is a CRAPLOAD of telemetry exchanging hands at every launch !!!
IceCat is the **ONLY** Mozilla fork I've ever seen (and I've seen "hundreds") that is free of all of that Mozilla BS.]]>
I do know how to test nowadays and R3DFOX has a crapload of telemetry !!! An outright crapload !!!
How much is just for a "new profile" and how much can be prevented is unknown on my end.
That's not intended as "disrespect" towards R3dfox - but it is Mozilla and has the Mozilla telemetry -- period.
I just know for a FACT that there is a CRAPLOAD of telemetry exchanging hands at every launch !!!
IceCat is the **ONLY** Mozilla fork I've ever seen (and I've seen "hundreds") that is free of all of that Mozilla BS.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by UCyborg]]> 2025-07-08T20:18:48+00:00 2025-07-08T20:18:48+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7125#p7125
The-10-Pen wrote: 07 Jul 2025, 17:53 I can not speak for LibreWolf. I didn't really know "how" to test for telemetry when I gave it a try.
Wireshark
The-10-Pen wrote: 07 Jul 2025, 09:20 I do like IceCat, but I have a hunch that nobody here has even heard of it.
But even if they did, they're not using it as no topics are discussed here regarding it.
I couldn't get one of my bank/billpay "MFA" to work in IceCat, or it would probably be my default browser.
I have, you may call it GNU IceCat. GNU project is the forefront of software freedom.]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 07 Jul 2025, 17:53 I can not speak for LibreWolf. I didn't really know "how" to test for telemetry when I gave it a try.
Wireshark
The-10-Pen wrote: 07 Jul 2025, 09:20 I do like IceCat, but I have a hunch that nobody here has even heard of it.
But even if they did, they're not using it as no topics are discussed here regarding it.
I couldn't get one of my bank/billpay "MFA" to work in IceCat, or it would probably be my default browser.
I have, you may call it GNU IceCat. GNU project is the forefront of software freedom.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-08T21:31:49+00:00 2025-07-08T21:31:49+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7126#p7126 And as I suspected, TONS AND TONS OF TELEMETRY HANDSHAKES with each and every launch !!!

GNU IceCat remains the **OONNLLYY** Mozilla Fork I have ever encountered that is absent of all of the Mozilla BS.]]>
And as I suspected, TONS AND TONS OF TELEMETRY HANDSHAKES with each and every launch !!!

GNU IceCat remains the **OONNLLYY** Mozilla Fork I have ever encountered that is absent of all of the Mozilla BS.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-10T17:01:32+00:00 2025-07-10T17:01:32+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7129#p7129
The-10-Pen wrote: 08 Jul 2025, 21:31 I revisited LibreWolf since it's been several years since I last gave it a try.
And as I suspected, TONS AND TONS OF TELEMETRY HANDSHAKES with each and every launch !!!
Lies. I'm getting none.
The only connections I got after launch are the adblock lists updated by uBlock Origin.]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 08 Jul 2025, 21:31 I revisited LibreWolf since it's been several years since I last gave it a try.
And as I suspected, TONS AND TONS OF TELEMETRY HANDSHAKES with each and every launch !!!
Lies. I'm getting none.
The only connections I got after launch are the adblock lists updated by uBlock Origin.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-10T18:02:50+00:00 2025-07-10T18:02:50+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7133#p7133
Duke wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 17:01 Lies. I'm getting none.
The only connections I got after launch are the adblock lists updated by uBlock Origin.
For one, DO NOT CALL ME A LIAR !!! Please have more respect towards those that "disagree with you".

THIS is what I get when I run LibreWolf.
SEVENTY SEVEN telemetry connections !!!
There are a *FEW* that pertain to uBlock lists, but SEVENTY SEVEN TELEMETRY CONNECTIONS !!!

What have you done to BLOCK them (if you indeed have blocked them, I see no proof on your end, just that you "disagree with me")?

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Duke wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 17:01 Lies. I'm getting none.
The only connections I got after launch are the adblock lists updated by uBlock Origin.
For one, DO NOT CALL ME A LIAR !!! Please have more respect towards those that "disagree with you".

THIS is what I get when I run LibreWolf.
SEVENTY SEVEN telemetry connections !!!
There are a *FEW* that pertain to uBlock lists, but SEVENTY SEVEN TELEMETRY CONNECTIONS !!!

What have you done to BLOCK them (if you indeed have blocked them, I see no proof on your end, just that you "disagree with me")?

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<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-10T18:52:27+00:00 2025-07-10T18:52:27+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7136#p7136
The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 18:02 For one, DO NOT CALL ME A LIAR !!! Please have more respect towards those that "disagree with you".
I don't call you a liar but just what you said is not true.

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 18:02 There are a *FEW* that pertain to uBlock lists, but SEVENTY SEVEN TELEMETRY CONNECTIONS !!!
I actually count 18 connections to lists, I may have missed some. With the corresponding OCSP connections.
Plus the connections to the Mozilla addons services checking for updates.
The connections to WindowsUpdate and Microsoft are surely not from LibreWolf, obviously.

In fact, you don't prove all of these connections are coming from LibreWolf.
Use TCPView: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/tcpview
or, if you want to stay with NirSoft, CurrPorts: https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/cports.html

Then sort the connections by process name and you'll see which ones are really from LibreWolf.]]>

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 18:02 For one, DO NOT CALL ME A LIAR !!! Please have more respect towards those that "disagree with you".
I don't call you a liar but just what you said is not true.

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 18:02 There are a *FEW* that pertain to uBlock lists, but SEVENTY SEVEN TELEMETRY CONNECTIONS !!!
I actually count 18 connections to lists, I may have missed some. With the corresponding OCSP connections.
Plus the connections to the Mozilla addons services checking for updates.
The connections to WindowsUpdate and Microsoft are surely not from LibreWolf, obviously.

In fact, you don't prove all of these connections are coming from LibreWolf.
Use TCPView: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/tcpview
or, if you want to stay with NirSoft, CurrPorts: https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/cports.html

Then sort the connections by process name and you'll see which ones are really from LibreWolf.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-10T20:09:21+00:00 2025-07-10T20:09:21+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7138#p7138 So that really does not make any sense to me.
Windows Updates are disabled on all of my machines, even my VMs.

So why does LibreWolf connect to WindowsUpdate and Microsoft per DNSQuerySniffer when Chrome does not, when IceCat does not?

I can launch DNSQuerySniffer at startup and it remains completely empty.
Launch Chrome, it remains completely empty.
Launch IceCat, it remains completely empty.

Launch LibreWolf and I get seventy seven entries.
So "to me", it is LibreWolf opening some kind of door for everything else to walk through.
Regardless if librewolf.exe made those connections or not, they are not made unless it is running.

I'd love an explanation because that really does not make sense to me.
I can only go by what I see. Zero DNSQuerySniffer entries for Chrome and IceCat. Tons of them for LibreWolf.
LibreWolf is opening some sort of door for everything else to walk through.]]>
So that really does not make any sense to me.
Windows Updates are disabled on all of my machines, even my VMs.

So why does LibreWolf connect to WindowsUpdate and Microsoft per DNSQuerySniffer when Chrome does not, when IceCat does not?

I can launch DNSQuerySniffer at startup and it remains completely empty.
Launch Chrome, it remains completely empty.
Launch IceCat, it remains completely empty.

Launch LibreWolf and I get seventy seven entries.
So "to me", it is LibreWolf opening some kind of door for everything else to walk through.
Regardless if librewolf.exe made those connections or not, they are not made unless it is running.

I'd love an explanation because that really does not make sense to me.
I can only go by what I see. Zero DNSQuerySniffer entries for Chrome and IceCat. Tons of them for LibreWolf.
LibreWolf is opening some sort of door for everything else to walk through.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-10T21:06:50+00:00 2025-07-10T21:06:50+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7139#p7139
The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 20:09 So why does LibreWolf connect to WindowsUpdate and Microsoft per DNSQuerySniffer
It does not. Use the tools I've told you and check the LibreWolf process.

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 20:09 Launch Chrome, it remains completely empty.
Impossible. Chrome always connect to Google as soon as you launch it.
The *.1e100.net connections. Always!

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 20:09 So "to me", it is LibreWolf opening some kind of door for everything else to walk through.
LibreWolf is opening some sort of door for everything else to walk through.
Paranoia.
It does not. Use the tools I've told you and check the LibreWolf process.]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 20:09 So why does LibreWolf connect to WindowsUpdate and Microsoft per DNSQuerySniffer
It does not. Use the tools I've told you and check the LibreWolf process.

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 20:09 Launch Chrome, it remains completely empty.
Impossible. Chrome always connect to Google as soon as you launch it.
The *.1e100.net connections. Always!

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 20:09 So "to me", it is LibreWolf opening some kind of door for everything else to walk through.
LibreWolf is opening some sort of door for everything else to walk through.
Paranoia.
It does not. Use the tools I've told you and check the LibreWolf process.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-10T21:12:24+00:00 2025-07-10T21:12:24+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7140#p7140 So DNSQuerySniffer remains EMPTY. Even for HOURS if no web browser is ever launched.

This works great for me!
I can let the computer sit for HOURS and DNSQuerySniffer remains EMPTY.

Launch Chrome but not open any web site and DNSQuerySniffer remains EMPTY.
Same goes for IceCat.

All I know is that DNSQuerySniffer goes haywire when I launch LibreWolf.
To my understanding, that means LibreWolf is "opening doors" for anything and everything to walk through.]]>
So DNSQuerySniffer remains EMPTY. Even for HOURS if no web browser is ever launched.

This works great for me!
I can let the computer sit for HOURS and DNSQuerySniffer remains EMPTY.

Launch Chrome but not open any web site and DNSQuerySniffer remains EMPTY.
Same goes for IceCat.

All I know is that DNSQuerySniffer goes haywire when I launch LibreWolf.
To my understanding, that means LibreWolf is "opening doors" for anything and everything to walk through.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-10T21:14:20+00:00 2025-07-10T21:14:20+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7141#p7141
Duke wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 21:06 The *.1e100.net connections. Always!
I'm not seeing this connection.
I could have it blocked by other means.]]>
Duke wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 21:06 The *.1e100.net connections. Always!
I'm not seeing this connection.
I could have it blocked by other means.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-10T21:15:26+00:00 2025-07-10T21:15:26+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7142#p7142 You don't even try the tools. Scared to face the truth ?
I'm just wasting my time, stay in your closed own world.]]>
You don't even try the tools. Scared to face the truth ?
I'm just wasting my time, stay in your closed own world.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-10T21:24:39+00:00 2025-07-10T21:24:39+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7143#p7143 I have not tried CurrPorts because I have no need to stay with NirSoft.

I am not getting *.1e100.net connections. What screencap shall I provide as proof?

I am running PORTABLE CHROME v136. Unsure if that makes a difference.
I only run portable browsers and my Windows registry has no "default" web browser.

I am also running Chrome++ with the below command line switches --

command_line=--no-first-run --no-default-browser-check --test-type --disable-logging --allow-outdated-plugins --enable-features=AllowLegacyMV2Extensions --disable-features=LensOverlay,LensRegionSearch,GlobalMediaControls,CustomizeChromeSidePanel,Translate,ExtensionManifestV2DeprecationWarning,ExtensionManifestV2Disabled,ExtensionManifestV2Unsupported,OptimizationGuideModelDownloading,OptimizationHintsFetching,OptimizationTargetPrediction,OptimizationHints --ash-no-nudges --disable-background-networking --disable-breakpad --disable-comp-onent-update --disable-domain-reliability --disable-default-apps --simulate-outdated-no-au='Tue, 31 Dec 2099 23:59:59 GMT']]>
I have not tried CurrPorts because I have no need to stay with NirSoft.

I am not getting *.1e100.net connections. What screencap shall I provide as proof?

I am running PORTABLE CHROME v136. Unsure if that makes a difference.
I only run portable browsers and my Windows registry has no "default" web browser.

I am also running Chrome++ with the below command line switches --

command_line=--no-first-run --no-default-browser-check --test-type --disable-logging --allow-outdated-plugins --enable-features=AllowLegacyMV2Extensions --disable-features=LensOverlay,LensRegionSearch,GlobalMediaControls,CustomizeChromeSidePanel,Translate,ExtensionManifestV2DeprecationWarning,ExtensionManifestV2Disabled,ExtensionManifestV2Unsupported,OptimizationGuideModelDownloading,OptimizationHintsFetching,OptimizationTargetPrediction,OptimizationHints --ash-no-nudges --disable-background-networking --disable-breakpad --disable-comp-onent-update --disable-domain-reliability --disable-default-apps --simulate-outdated-no-au='Tue, 31 Dec 2099 23:59:59 GMT']]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-10T21:27:03+00:00 2025-07-10T21:27:03+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7144#p7144 <![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-10T21:46:02+00:00 2025-07-10T21:46:02+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7145#p7145
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<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-10T22:27:54+00:00 2025-07-10T22:27:54+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7148#p7148 I always thought it was the other way around. :?]]> I always thought it was the other way around. :?]]> <![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-10T22:34:33+00:00 2025-07-10T22:34:33+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7149#p7149
Anyway, we can see the established connections of Chrome:
142.250.190.3 : https://search.dnslytics.com/ip/142.250.190.3
Description Google LLC
PTR record ord37s32-in-f3.1e100.net

34.104.35.123 : https://search.dnslytics.com/ip/34.104.35.123
Description Google LLC
PTR record 123.35.104.34.bc.googleusercontent.com

And the closed ones [Time Wait]:
74.125.126.84 : https://search.dnslytics.com/ip/74.125.126.84
Description Google LLC
PTR record ik-in-f84.1e100.net

Chrome always connects to Google at launch. Always.
The only version I know which doesn't do it is Ungoogled Chromium.


Funnily LibreWolf is also showing connections to googleusercontent.com:
34.107.243.93 : https://search.dnslytics.com/ip/34.107.243.93
Description Google LLC
PTR record 93.243.107.34.bc.googleusercontent.com

That might be because of some extension, or maybe you added Google as your default search engine, or you have enabled Safe Browsing. But that's content from googleusercontent.com and not .1e100.net which is pure Google. I'm not getting those with LibreWolf on my computer.

But that's only 4 connections, not 77. And not telemetry to Mozilla.]]>

Anyway, we can see the established connections of Chrome:
142.250.190.3 : https://search.dnslytics.com/ip/142.250.190.3
Description Google LLC
PTR record ord37s32-in-f3.1e100.net

34.104.35.123 : https://search.dnslytics.com/ip/34.104.35.123
Description Google LLC
PTR record 123.35.104.34.bc.googleusercontent.com

And the closed ones [Time Wait]:
74.125.126.84 : https://search.dnslytics.com/ip/74.125.126.84
Description Google LLC
PTR record ik-in-f84.1e100.net

Chrome always connects to Google at launch. Always.
The only version I know which doesn't do it is Ungoogled Chromium.


Funnily LibreWolf is also showing connections to googleusercontent.com:
34.107.243.93 : https://search.dnslytics.com/ip/34.107.243.93
Description Google LLC
PTR record 93.243.107.34.bc.googleusercontent.com

That might be because of some extension, or maybe you added Google as your default search engine, or you have enabled Safe Browsing. But that's content from googleusercontent.com and not .1e100.net which is pure Google. I'm not getting those with LibreWolf on my computer.

But that's only 4 connections, not 77. And not telemetry to Mozilla.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-10T23:12:53+00:00 2025-07-10T23:12:53+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7150#p7150 I don't know what a PTR record is.
I did a "whois" on the IP address and it only showed Google, not "1e100.net".
So that's one issue solved.

On the LibreWolf issue, "your" tool doesn't show it (TCP). "My" tool does (DNS).
I always thought DNS was way more important than TCP.

I have no extensions installed in LibreWolf. Fresh "portable" download just today, ran in a VM that has never seen any browser beforehand.


Again, I always thought DNS was more important than TCP.
You missed one aspect of my post (or I forgot to mention it) - the SEVENTY SEVEN connections is FIRST LAUNCH ONLY.
Unless you carry over a profile to prevent them, then you have to run that first launch and allow those connections.
Subsequent launches only show these 12 DNS entries.

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I don't know what a PTR record is.
I did a "whois" on the IP address and it only showed Google, not "1e100.net".
So that's one issue solved.

On the LibreWolf issue, "your" tool doesn't show it (TCP). "My" tool does (DNS).
I always thought DNS was way more important than TCP.

I have no extensions installed in LibreWolf. Fresh "portable" download just today, ran in a VM that has never seen any browser beforehand.


Again, I always thought DNS was more important than TCP.
You missed one aspect of my post (or I forgot to mention it) - the SEVENTY SEVEN connections is FIRST LAUNCH ONLY.
Unless you carry over a profile to prevent them, then you have to run that first launch and allow those connections.
Subsequent launches only show these 12 DNS entries.

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<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-11T07:36:49+00:00 2025-07-11T07:36:49+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7151#p7151
The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 23:12 I don't know what a PTR record is.
I did a "whois" on the IP address and it only showed Google, not "1e100.net".
I took the time to provide links, why don't you take the time to click on them ?

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 23:12 On the LibreWolf issue, "your" tool doesn't show it (TCP). "My" tool does (DNS).
The World Wide Web is using TCP connections, that's it. It's how it works.

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 23:12 I always thought DNS was way more important than TCP.
You missed one aspect of my post (or I forgot to mention it) - the SEVENTY SEVEN connections is FIRST LAUNCH ONLY.
They are not connections, they are DNS queries.
The purpose of DNS servers is to resolve domain names into IP addresses that the browser can use. And these IP addresses are used in TCP connections, as said before.
That's why TCPView and CurrPorts are showing the real connections, I repeat: DNS queries are not connections to WWW servers.
You can also see these activities in about:networking in Mozilla browsers.]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 23:12 I don't know what a PTR record is.
I did a "whois" on the IP address and it only showed Google, not "1e100.net".
I took the time to provide links, why don't you take the time to click on them ?

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 23:12 On the LibreWolf issue, "your" tool doesn't show it (TCP). "My" tool does (DNS).
The World Wide Web is using TCP connections, that's it. It's how it works.

The-10-Pen wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 23:12 I always thought DNS was way more important than TCP.
You missed one aspect of my post (or I forgot to mention it) - the SEVENTY SEVEN connections is FIRST LAUNCH ONLY.
They are not connections, they are DNS queries.
The purpose of DNS servers is to resolve domain names into IP addresses that the browser can use. And these IP addresses are used in TCP connections, as said before.
That's why TCPView and CurrPorts are showing the real connections, I repeat: DNS queries are not connections to WWW servers.
You can also see these activities in about:networking in Mozilla browsers.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-11T09:29:54+00:00 2025-07-11T09:29:54+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=709&p=7152#p7152
I would put best-to-worst in this order -
1) IceCat [best but kind of "old"]
2) LibreWolf
3) R3dfox [bad but not worst]
4) Firefox [worst]]]>

I would put best-to-worst in this order -
1) IceCat [best but kind of "old"]
2) LibreWolf
3) R3dfox [bad but not worst]
4) Firefox [worst]]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Sound Blaster ExpressCard audio cards for laptops :: Reply by UCyborg]]> 2025-07-08T20:00:49+00:00 2025-07-08T20:00:49+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=589&p=7124#p7124
I'm definitely not going back to plain 2D stereo without real positional cues. HRTF in one way or the other is the only way to go without real surround speaker setup.

The worst thing with Sound Blasters, the old school ones, the drivers are stinking unreliable pile of poop. The EAX engine died on me, again!

Image

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And they can bring the whole OS down by something as innocent as disabling device in Device Manager.

DSOAL, the DirectSound to OpenAl Soft wrapper isn't really there yet and who knows when it will be, EAX effects don't work in some games, others have sound glitches.

To make the mess even bigger, Creative has not one, but two of their own software based solutions for 3D sound with EAX, the one directly in dsound.dll of Creative ALchemy, the other in Sens_oal.dll (also directly usable by OpenAL games), which their dsound.dll can route to if you rename Sens_oal.dll -> ct_oal.dll, both with their own quirks not on the level of hardware based implementation.]]>

I'm definitely not going back to plain 2D stereo without real positional cues. HRTF in one way or the other is the only way to go without real surround speaker setup.

The worst thing with Sound Blasters, the old school ones, the drivers are stinking unreliable pile of poop. The EAX engine died on me, again!

Image

Image

And they can bring the whole OS down by something as innocent as disabling device in Device Manager.

DSOAL, the DirectSound to OpenAl Soft wrapper isn't really there yet and who knows when it will be, EAX effects don't work in some games, others have sound glitches.

To make the mess even bigger, Creative has not one, but two of their own software based solutions for 3D sound with EAX, the one directly in dsound.dll of Creative ALchemy, the other in Sens_oal.dll (also directly usable by OpenAL games), which their dsound.dll can route to if you rename Sens_oal.dll -> ct_oal.dll, both with their own quirks not on the level of hardware based implementation.]]>
<![CDATA[General Software & Hardware :: Sound Blaster ExpressCard audio cards for laptops :: Reply by UCyborg]]> 2025-07-13T12:24:32+00:00 2025-07-13T12:24:32+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=589&p=7157#p7157
For the reference for unfamiliar readers, this is how control panels above look normally:

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I would have edited the post above to add the screenshots, but it appears to be forbidden...

I'll see if disabling CtHelper.exe background process helps with EAX. No clear info on what it even does, but it has constantly open handles to \Device\CTPROXY and \Device\EMUPIA, which I suspect improves the odds of screwing things up.]]>

For the reference for unfamiliar readers, this is how control panels above look normally:

Image

Image

I would have edited the post above to add the screenshots, but it appears to be forbidden...

I'll see if disabling CtHelper.exe background process helps with EAX. No clear info on what it even does, but it has constantly open handles to \Device\CTPROXY and \Device\EMUPIA, which I suspect improves the odds of screwing things up.]]>
<![CDATA[Browsers :: uBlockOrigin Huge AI Blocklist :: Author Duke]]> 2025-07-19T10:42:56+00:00 2025-07-19T10:42:56+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=857&p=7176#p7176 https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist]]> https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist]]> <![CDATA[Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-21T21:58:00+00:00 2025-07-21T21:58:00+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=748&p=7184#p7184 https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.26.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.26.0/releasenotes/]]>
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.26.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.26.0/releasenotes/]]>
<![CDATA[Steam :: Steam on Windows 7/8 :: Reply by Peacock]]> 2025-07-08T22:22:55+00:00 2025-07-08T22:22:55+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=562&p=7127#p7127
DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 09:45 Anybody else not being able to download anything with every attempt ending with "corrupt download"?
Same, reported to steam but after telling me to troubleshot for while then i got:
Before we try to troubleshoot further, our recommendation would be to upgrade your operating system to continue the service.
Some games can install or update fine, but other games can't be installed or updated.
And got Negotiated HTTP/2 but fixes like this doesn't work:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/16e1l4h/slow_steam_downloads_try_this/
the main errors i get is Unpack failed or Marking bad download source cache*-ord1.steamcontent.com, 1 jobs

Edit (Found more people):
https://xcancel.com/FurryJokerTFF/status/1940629095425204494
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/601909079150967151/
https://github.com/Kegworks-App/Kegworks/issues/112 (Mac)]]>
DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 09:45 Anybody else not being able to download anything with every attempt ending with "corrupt download"?
Same, reported to steam but after telling me to troubleshot for while then i got:
Before we try to troubleshoot further, our recommendation would be to upgrade your operating system to continue the service.
Some games can install or update fine, but other games can't be installed or updated.
And got Negotiated HTTP/2 but fixes like this doesn't work:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/16e1l4h/slow_steam_downloads_try_this/
the main errors i get is Unpack failed or Marking bad download source cache*-ord1.steamcontent.com, 1 jobs

Edit (Found more people):
https://xcancel.com/FurryJokerTFF/status/1940629095425204494
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/601909079150967151/
https://github.com/Kegworks-App/Kegworks/issues/112 (Mac)]]>
<![CDATA[Steam :: Steam on Windows 7/8 :: Reply by Peacock]]> 2025-07-09T23:30:18+00:00 2025-07-09T23:30:18+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=562&p=7128#p7128
Peacock wrote: 08 Jul 2025, 22:22
DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 09:45 Anybody else not being able to download anything with every attempt ending with "corrupt download"?
Same, reported to steam but after telling me to troubleshot for while then i got:
Before we try to troubleshoot further, our recommendation would be to upgrade your operating system to continue the service.
Some games can install or update fine, but other games can't be installed or updated.
And got Negotiated HTTP/2 but fixes like this doesn't work:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/16e1l4h/slow_steam_downloads_try_this/
the main errors i get is Unpack failed or Marking bad download source cache*-ord1.steamcontent.com, 1 jobs

Edit (Found more people):
https://xcancel.com/FurryJokerTFF/status/1940629095425204494
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/601909079150967151/
https://github.com/Kegworks-App/Kegworks/issues/112 (Mac)
Found this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1335200/discussions/0/597405077977803904/
Make sure your steam client is up to date. The issue with corrupt update is due to the use of new file compression ZSTD format by Steam to further reduce usage of storage space on their servers and save money. They started rolling out the new compression on games in May and will eventually reach all games.
and:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/4349988612573450321/?l=koreana&ctp=598
seems that there is a codec you can download to make ZSTD compression work in windows 7. i have not tested it myself.
DepotDownloader can download and decompress, it just awkward to use.
The issue is with old Steam Client what you can not fix with anything.
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Peacock wrote: 08 Jul 2025, 22:22
DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 09:45 Anybody else not being able to download anything with every attempt ending with "corrupt download"?
Same, reported to steam but after telling me to troubleshot for while then i got:
Before we try to troubleshoot further, our recommendation would be to upgrade your operating system to continue the service.
Some games can install or update fine, but other games can't be installed or updated.
And got Negotiated HTTP/2 but fixes like this doesn't work:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/16e1l4h/slow_steam_downloads_try_this/
the main errors i get is Unpack failed or Marking bad download source cache*-ord1.steamcontent.com, 1 jobs

Edit (Found more people):
https://xcancel.com/FurryJokerTFF/status/1940629095425204494
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/601909079150967151/
https://github.com/Kegworks-App/Kegworks/issues/112 (Mac)
Found this:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1335200/discussions/0/597405077977803904/
Make sure your steam client is up to date. The issue with corrupt update is due to the use of new file compression ZSTD format by Steam to further reduce usage of storage space on their servers and save money. They started rolling out the new compression on games in May and will eventually reach all games.
and:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/4349988612573450321/?l=koreana&ctp=598
seems that there is a codec you can download to make ZSTD compression work in windows 7. i have not tested it myself.
DepotDownloader can download and decompress, it just awkward to use.
The issue is with old Steam Client what you can not fix with anything.
]]>
<![CDATA[Steam :: Steam on Windows 7/8 :: Reply by DoNotThrowOldPCsAway]]> 2025-07-10T17:20:54+00:00 2025-07-10T17:20:54+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=562&p=7130#p7130 SteamCMD https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD with -overrideminos parameter.

For example, If I want to download Half-Life 2 (Steam Application ID 220):
  1. I open command line (Win+R cmd)
  2. then I navigate to SteamCMD install directory using cd command,
  3. type SteamCMD -overrideminos,
  4. set up install directory using force_install_dir <directory> command (for some reason it has to be set up before signing in),
  5. then I sign in with login <username> <password>,
  6. and type app_update 220,
  7. then I move files to correct steamapps folder (I found it to be less messy to download them somewhere else first)
  8. and finally click install in Steam client that proceeds to validate the files.
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SteamCMD https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD with -overrideminos parameter.

For example, If I want to download Half-Life 2 (Steam Application ID 220):
  1. I open command line (Win+R cmd)
  2. then I navigate to SteamCMD install directory using cd command,
  3. type SteamCMD -overrideminos,
  4. set up install directory using force_install_dir <directory> command (for some reason it has to be set up before signing in),
  5. then I sign in with login <username> <password>,
  6. and type app_update 220,
  7. then I move files to correct steamapps folder (I found it to be less messy to download them somewhere else first)
  8. and finally click install in Steam client that proceeds to validate the files.
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<![CDATA[Steam :: Steam on Windows 7/8 :: Reply by Lappo]]> 2025-07-10T18:01:59+00:00 2025-07-10T18:01:59+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=562&p=7132#p7132
(adding valve wiki page on it https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD)]]>

(adding valve wiki page on it https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD)]]>
<![CDATA[Steam :: Steam on Windows 7/8 :: Reply by Peacock]]> 2025-07-10T22:18:20+00:00 2025-07-10T22:18:20+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=562&p=7147#p7147
DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 17:20 I am currently using SteamCMD https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD with -overrideminos parameter.

For example, If I want to download Half-Life 2 (Steam Application ID 220):
  1. I open command line (Win+R cmd)
  2. then I navigate to SteamCMD install directory using cd command,
  3. type SteamCMD -overrideminos,
  4. set up install directory using force_install_dir <directory> command (for some reason it has to be set up before signing in),
  5. then I sign in with login <username> <password>,
  6. and type app_update 220,
  7. then I move files to correct steamapps folder (I found it to be less messy to download them somewhere else first)
  8. and finally click install in Steam client that proceeds to validate the files.
Also DepotDownloader works as well:
https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader
Just go to steamdb and find the game's app id and depot id, then use in cmd:

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DepotDownloader.exe -app (app id) -depot (depot id)  -username (username) -password (password)
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DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 17:20 I am currently using SteamCMD https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD with -overrideminos parameter.

For example, If I want to download Half-Life 2 (Steam Application ID 220):
  1. I open command line (Win+R cmd)
  2. then I navigate to SteamCMD install directory using cd command,
  3. type SteamCMD -overrideminos,
  4. set up install directory using force_install_dir <directory> command (for some reason it has to be set up before signing in),
  5. then I sign in with login <username> <password>,
  6. and type app_update 220,
  7. then I move files to correct steamapps folder (I found it to be less messy to download them somewhere else first)
  8. and finally click install in Steam client that proceeds to validate the files.
Also DepotDownloader works as well:
https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader
Just go to steamdb and find the game's app id and depot id, then use in cmd:

Code: Select all

DepotDownloader.exe -app (app id) -depot (depot id)  -username (username) -password (password)
]]>
<![CDATA[Steam :: Steam on Windows 7/8 :: Reply by Peacock]]> 2025-07-19T21:59:53+00:00 2025-07-19T21:59:53+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=562&p=7179#p7179
Peacock wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 22:18
DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 17:20 I am currently using SteamCMD https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD with -overrideminos parameter.

For example, If I want to download Half-Life 2 (Steam Application ID 220):
  1. I open command line (Win+R cmd)
  2. then I navigate to SteamCMD install directory using cd command,
  3. type SteamCMD -overrideminos,
  4. set up install directory using force_install_dir <directory> command (for some reason it has to be set up before signing in),
  5. then I sign in with login <username> <password>,
  6. and type app_update 220,
  7. then I move files to correct steamapps folder (I found it to be less messy to download them somewhere else first)
  8. and finally click install in Steam client that proceeds to validate the files.
Also DepotDownloader works as well:
https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader
Just go to steamdb and find the game's app id and depot id, then use in cmd:

Code: Select all

DepotDownloader.exe -app (app id) -depot (depot id)  -username (username) -password (password)
Found a thread:
https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader/issues/627#issuecomment-2999732242
I don't think there's a way to fix the client itself using DepotDownloader but it should be possible for DepotDownloader to "fix" broken updates/installs.

It simply needs a way to update the appid's appmanifest_#.acf automatically when you install an updated manifest.

For example, if you update a game that's using the new ZSTD compression on Win7 you'll end up with the StateFlags set to 1030 or 1542 for "Corrupt Download". If the game is manually updated with DepotDownloader, then you can bypass this error by updating the appmanifest manually. Specifically you'll want StateFlags to be 4, UpdateResult to be 0, StagingSize to be 0, buildid to match TargetBuildID, BytesStaged to match BytesToStage, BytesDownloaded to match BytesToDownload, and finally the InstalledDepots array will need to be updated with the updated manifest information.

If that appmanifest update can be done automatically by DepotDownloader, it can serve as an alternative to the Steam Client, and when the Steam Client is restarted it will correctly see that the game was updated and allow you to run it without going into an update death loop.
This thread let me actually get some games in my library working again after the zstd update!

I wrote a quick python script to perform the steps described by @nomakewan above. It takes a path to a manifest file and parses it. If a -username parameter is provided after the manifest path, it downloads all the staged depots by calling DepotDownloader, and then rewrites the manifest file with the flags and installed depots updated.
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Peacock wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 22:18
DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 17:20 I am currently using SteamCMD https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD with -overrideminos parameter.

For example, If I want to download Half-Life 2 (Steam Application ID 220):
  1. I open command line (Win+R cmd)
  2. then I navigate to SteamCMD install directory using cd command,
  3. type SteamCMD -overrideminos,
  4. set up install directory using force_install_dir <directory> command (for some reason it has to be set up before signing in),
  5. then I sign in with login <username> <password>,
  6. and type app_update 220,
  7. then I move files to correct steamapps folder (I found it to be less messy to download them somewhere else first)
  8. and finally click install in Steam client that proceeds to validate the files.
Also DepotDownloader works as well:
https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader
Just go to steamdb and find the game's app id and depot id, then use in cmd:

Code: Select all

DepotDownloader.exe -app (app id) -depot (depot id)  -username (username) -password (password)
Found a thread:
https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader/issues/627#issuecomment-2999732242
I don't think there's a way to fix the client itself using DepotDownloader but it should be possible for DepotDownloader to "fix" broken updates/installs.

It simply needs a way to update the appid's appmanifest_#.acf automatically when you install an updated manifest.

For example, if you update a game that's using the new ZSTD compression on Win7 you'll end up with the StateFlags set to 1030 or 1542 for "Corrupt Download". If the game is manually updated with DepotDownloader, then you can bypass this error by updating the appmanifest manually. Specifically you'll want StateFlags to be 4, UpdateResult to be 0, StagingSize to be 0, buildid to match TargetBuildID, BytesStaged to match BytesToStage, BytesDownloaded to match BytesToDownload, and finally the InstalledDepots array will need to be updated with the updated manifest information.

If that appmanifest update can be done automatically by DepotDownloader, it can serve as an alternative to the Steam Client, and when the Steam Client is restarted it will correctly see that the game was updated and allow you to run it without going into an update death loop.
This thread let me actually get some games in my library working again after the zstd update!

I wrote a quick python script to perform the steps described by @nomakewan above. It takes a path to a manifest file and parses it. If a -username parameter is provided after the manifest path, it downloads all the staged depots by calling DepotDownloader, and then rewrites the manifest file with the flags and installed depots updated.
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<![CDATA[Mobile Devices :: Hex editor for Android :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-06-29T12:08:30+00:00 2025-06-29T12:08:30+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=687&p=7088#p7088 https://github.com/exbin/bined-android/releases/tag/0.2.7

Thanks for the good work :thumbup:]]>
https://github.com/exbin/bined-android/releases/tag/0.2.7

Thanks for the good work :thumbup:]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Author Lappo]]> 2025-07-10T18:15:23+00:00 2025-07-10T18:15:23+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7134#p7134 what kind of ripping bloat/spy ware out of windows 10 things would you recommend, or would you not recommend windows 10?

main idea would be running linux on a daily with proton for games, but ynever know if you may want to try something on windows]]>
what kind of ripping bloat/spy ware out of windows 10 things would you recommend, or would you not recommend windows 10?

main idea would be running linux on a daily with proton for games, but ynever know if you may want to try something on windows]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-10T18:59:23+00:00 2025-07-10T18:59:23+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7137#p7137 The Ryzen 7 (5700G) is older but much faster.

I am running Win11 (tweaked heavily!).
I could not find adequate drivers for Win10 (my preferred OS, *when tweaked!*).

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The Ryzen 7 (5700G) is older but much faster.

I am running Win11 (tweaked heavily!).
I could not find adequate drivers for Win10 (my preferred OS, *when tweaked!*).

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<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-16T00:05:09+00:00 2025-07-16T00:05:09+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7163#p7163
Lappo wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 18:15 So im getting a new ryzen 5700g based pc and while i intend to run artix linux on it, im probably gonna need a runnable windows just in case
what kind of ripping bloat/spy ware out of windows 10 things would you recommend, or would you not recommend windows 10?

main idea would be running linux on a daily with proton for games, but ynever know if you may want to try something on windows
Any status update?
I'd be interested in knowing where you landed with Win10 driver support.]]>
Lappo wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 18:15 So im getting a new ryzen 5700g based pc and while i intend to run artix linux on it, im probably gonna need a runnable windows just in case
what kind of ripping bloat/spy ware out of windows 10 things would you recommend, or would you not recommend windows 10?

main idea would be running linux on a daily with proton for games, but ynever know if you may want to try something on windows
Any status update?
I'd be interested in knowing where you landed with Win10 driver support.]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by teknixstuff]]> 2025-07-16T07:33:16+00:00 2025-07-16T07:33:16+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7164#p7164
Lappo wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 18:15 So im getting a new ryzen 5700g based pc and while i intend to run artix linux on it, im probably gonna need a runnable windows just in case
what kind of ripping bloat/spy ware out of windows 10 things would you recommend, or would you not recommend windows 10?

main idea would be running linux on a daily with proton for games, but ynever know if you may want to try something on windows
I'd suggest just getting W10 Enterprise LTSC 2021. It has almost all the bloatware removed by default!]]>
Lappo wrote: 10 Jul 2025, 18:15 So im getting a new ryzen 5700g based pc and while i intend to run artix linux on it, im probably gonna need a runnable windows just in case
what kind of ripping bloat/spy ware out of windows 10 things would you recommend, or would you not recommend windows 10?

main idea would be running linux on a daily with proton for games, but ynever know if you may want to try something on windows
I'd suggest just getting W10 Enterprise LTSC 2021. It has almost all the bloatware removed by default!]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-16T08:34:58+00:00 2025-07-16T08:34:58+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7165#p7165
teknixstuff wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 07:33 I'd suggest just getting W10 Enterprise LTSC 2021. It has almost all the bloatware removed by default!
I tried that route on a Ryzen 5 but was basically forced to upgrade to Win11 Enterprise LTSC 24H2 for sake of driver availability.

ie, if OP is successful, I would like for the Win10 drivers to be posted here.]]>
teknixstuff wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 07:33 I'd suggest just getting W10 Enterprise LTSC 2021. It has almost all the bloatware removed by default!
I tried that route on a Ryzen 5 but was basically forced to upgrade to Win11 Enterprise LTSC 24H2 for sake of driver availability.

ie, if OP is successful, I would like for the Win10 drivers to be posted here.]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by teknixstuff]]> 2025-07-16T08:55:26+00:00 2025-07-16T08:55:26+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7166#p7166
The-10-Pen wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 08:34
teknixstuff wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 07:33 I'd suggest just getting W10 Enterprise LTSC 2021. It has almost all the bloatware removed by default!
I tried that route on a Ryzen 5 but was basically forced to upgrade to Win11 Enterprise LTSC 24H2 for sake of driver availability.

ie, if OP is successful, I would like for the Win10 drivers to be posted here.
All W11 drivers should work fine on W10. Generally the only compatibility restrictions are from the driver setup tools, and you can avoid that by just backing up your drivers from W11 and restoring them on W10.]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 08:34
teknixstuff wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 07:33 I'd suggest just getting W10 Enterprise LTSC 2021. It has almost all the bloatware removed by default!
I tried that route on a Ryzen 5 but was basically forced to upgrade to Win11 Enterprise LTSC 24H2 for sake of driver availability.

ie, if OP is successful, I would like for the Win10 drivers to be posted here.
All W11 drivers should work fine on W10. Generally the only compatibility restrictions are from the driver setup tools, and you can avoid that by just backing up your drivers from W11 and restoring them on W10.]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-16T09:23:32+00:00 2025-07-16T09:23:32+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7167#p7167
teknixstuff wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 08:55 ...and you can avoid that by just backing up your drivers from W11 and restoring them on W10.
I may try that one of these days.
I used to have something called "DriverGrabber" and I assume it will grab the Win11 drivers for Win10 migration.
Though it does not cite Win10 or Win11 as supported OS -- https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/drivergrabber.html]]>
teknixstuff wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 08:55 ...and you can avoid that by just backing up your drivers from W11 and restoring them on W10.
I may try that one of these days.
I used to have something called "DriverGrabber" and I assume it will grab the Win11 drivers for Win10 migration.
Though it does not cite Win10 or Win11 as supported OS -- https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/drivergrabber.html]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by teknixstuff]]> 2025-07-16T10:41:50+00:00 2025-07-16T10:41:50+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7168#p7168
The-10-Pen wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 09:23
teknixstuff wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 08:55 ...and you can avoid that by just backing up your drivers from W11 and restoring them on W10.
I may try that one of these days.
I used to have something called "DriverGrabber" and I assume it will grab the Win11 drivers for Win10 migration.
Though it does not cite Win10 or Win11 as supported OS -- https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/drivergrabber.html
You can do it entirely just from command prompt.
To backup drivers: pnputil /export-driver * c:\backup
To restore drivers: pnputil /add-driver c:\backup\*.inf /subdirs /install]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 09:23
teknixstuff wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 08:55 ...and you can avoid that by just backing up your drivers from W11 and restoring them on W10.
I may try that one of these days.
I used to have something called "DriverGrabber" and I assume it will grab the Win11 drivers for Win10 migration.
Though it does not cite Win10 or Win11 as supported OS -- https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/drivergrabber.html
You can do it entirely just from command prompt.
To backup drivers: pnputil /export-driver * c:\backup
To restore drivers: pnputil /add-driver c:\backup\*.inf /subdirs /install]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-16T11:14:08+00:00 2025-07-16T11:14:08+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7169#p7169
teknixstuff wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 10:41 You can do it entirely just from command prompt.
To backup drivers: pnputil /export-driver * c:\backup
To restore drivers: pnputil /add-driver c:\backup\*.inf /subdirs /install
Awesome! Much appreciated! :D :D :D]]>
teknixstuff wrote: 16 Jul 2025, 10:41 You can do it entirely just from command prompt.
To backup drivers: pnputil /export-driver * c:\backup
To restore drivers: pnputil /add-driver c:\backup\*.inf /subdirs /install
Awesome! Much appreciated! :D :D :D]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-16T11:31:34+00:00 2025-07-16T11:31:34+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7170#p7170 The default OEM installation had over 140 processes and I managed to cut that basically in half.

It may be the weekend before I can revert this laptop to Win10 and see if this resolves driver issues I had when I last attempted Win10 on this laptop.

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It may be the weekend before I can revert this laptop to Win10 and see if this resolves driver issues I had when I last attempted Win10 on this laptop.

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<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-18T18:13:28+00:00 2025-07-18T18:13:28+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7171#p7171
Win10 LTSB 2016 misses these drivers -
1) Human Interface Devices - HID Button over Interrupt Driver
2) Other devices - BT_FUNCTION
3) Other devices - Multimedia Controller
4 and 5) Other devices - PCI Data Acquisition and Signal Processing Controller
6 and 7) Other devices - PCI Device
8) Other devices - PCI Encryption/Decryption Controller
9) Other devices - SM Bus Controller
10 thru 18) Other devices - Unknown device
19) System devices - ACPI Wake Alarm
20) System devices - PCI Express Root Port
21) Universal Serial Bus controllers - UCSI USB Connector Manager

Task Manager = 28 processes, 328 threads, 10552 handles (after 49 minutes of Up Time due to a lunch break)]]>

Win10 LTSB 2016 misses these drivers -
1) Human Interface Devices - HID Button over Interrupt Driver
2) Other devices - BT_FUNCTION
3) Other devices - Multimedia Controller
4 and 5) Other devices - PCI Data Acquisition and Signal Processing Controller
6 and 7) Other devices - PCI Device
8) Other devices - PCI Encryption/Decryption Controller
9) Other devices - SM Bus Controller
10 thru 18) Other devices - Unknown device
19) System devices - ACPI Wake Alarm
20) System devices - PCI Express Root Port
21) Universal Serial Bus controllers - UCSI USB Connector Manager

Task Manager = 28 processes, 328 threads, 10552 handles (after 49 minutes of Up Time due to a lunch break)]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-18T18:37:51+00:00 2025-07-18T18:37:51+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7172#p7172 I think I'll just keep the Ryzen 5 laptop on Win11.
I tried to track down drivers in the past and it was a dead end then, I suspect it to still be a dead end now.]]>
I think I'll just keep the Ryzen 5 laptop on Win11.
I tried to track down drivers in the past and it was a dead end then, I suspect it to still be a dead end now.]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by teknixstuff]]> 2025-07-19T12:11:29+00:00 2025-07-19T12:11:29+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7177#p7177
The-10-Pen wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 18:13 "before" pnputil /add-driver restore on Win10 LTSB 2016 from drivers exported from Win11 Enterprise LTSC 24H2

Win10 LTSB 2016 misses these drivers -
1) Human Interface Devices - HID Button over Interrupt Driver
2) Other devices - BT_FUNCTION
3) Other devices - Multimedia Controller
4 and 5) Other devices - PCI Data Acquisition and Signal Processing Controller
6 and 7) Other devices - PCI Device
8) Other devices - PCI Encryption/Decryption Controller
9) Other devices - SM Bus Controller
10 thru 18) Other devices - Unknown device
19) System devices - ACPI Wake Alarm
20) System devices - PCI Express Root Port
21) Universal Serial Bus controllers - UCSI USB Connector Manager

Task Manager = 28 processes, 328 threads, 10552 handles (after 49 minutes of Up Time due to a lunch break)
LTSB 2016 doesn't support DCH, so you'll have a hard time getting drivers for everything.
If you aren't noticing any obvious deficiencies though, chances are, those drivers aren't needed at all.
If you are having issues, I'd suggest trying LTSC 2019 or 2021, both of which have proper DCH support, and thus are much more compatible with drivers.

I'll mention which drivers are for what here:
1) Human Interface Devices - HID Button over Interrupt Driver
- This is most likely the power button. Ignore it if the button works fine.
2) Other devices - BT_FUNCTION
- Something related to bluetooth.
3) Other devices - Multimedia Controller
- Likely your speakers/line out port, if present. You should be able to find drivers for it quite easily. The drivers for most of these are the same as long as you get the right brand (eg: pick the closest available Realtek driver if it's a Realtek sound device).
4 and 5) Other devices - PCI Data Acquisition and Signal Processing Controller
- Probably TPM or fan control?
6 and 7) Other devices - PCI Device
- Probably Intel Management Engine or AMD Platform Security Processor. Likely unwanted.
8) Other devices - PCI Encryption/Decryption Controller
- Hardware encryption has been known to be unreliable, and software encryption is usually similar speeds these days (or sometimes even faster). If you aren't doing disk encryption, this likely doesn't affect you anyway.
9) Other devices - SM Bus Controller
- Likely Intel ME, AMD PSP, or fan control.
10 thru 18) Other devices - Unknown device
- Miscellaneous chipset things. Likely not needed.
19) System devices - ACPI Wake Alarm
- Used for scheduled wake from sleep or hibernate. Commonly used by Windows Update to power on or wake up the PC for updates. Not needed if you don't want that feature.
20) System devices - PCI Express Root Port
- Unknown. You'd need the driver for the port to be able to know what devices are downstream of it. Likely your chipset drivers will include this driver.
21) Universal Serial Bus controllers - UCSI USB Connector Manager
- Used for embedded systems functionality for USB-C ports. Likely not needed.]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 18 Jul 2025, 18:13 "before" pnputil /add-driver restore on Win10 LTSB 2016 from drivers exported from Win11 Enterprise LTSC 24H2

Win10 LTSB 2016 misses these drivers -
1) Human Interface Devices - HID Button over Interrupt Driver
2) Other devices - BT_FUNCTION
3) Other devices - Multimedia Controller
4 and 5) Other devices - PCI Data Acquisition and Signal Processing Controller
6 and 7) Other devices - PCI Device
8) Other devices - PCI Encryption/Decryption Controller
9) Other devices - SM Bus Controller
10 thru 18) Other devices - Unknown device
19) System devices - ACPI Wake Alarm
20) System devices - PCI Express Root Port
21) Universal Serial Bus controllers - UCSI USB Connector Manager

Task Manager = 28 processes, 328 threads, 10552 handles (after 49 minutes of Up Time due to a lunch break)
LTSB 2016 doesn't support DCH, so you'll have a hard time getting drivers for everything.
If you aren't noticing any obvious deficiencies though, chances are, those drivers aren't needed at all.
If you are having issues, I'd suggest trying LTSC 2019 or 2021, both of which have proper DCH support, and thus are much more compatible with drivers.

I'll mention which drivers are for what here:
1) Human Interface Devices - HID Button over Interrupt Driver
- This is most likely the power button. Ignore it if the button works fine.
2) Other devices - BT_FUNCTION
- Something related to bluetooth.
3) Other devices - Multimedia Controller
- Likely your speakers/line out port, if present. You should be able to find drivers for it quite easily. The drivers for most of these are the same as long as you get the right brand (eg: pick the closest available Realtek driver if it's a Realtek sound device).
4 and 5) Other devices - PCI Data Acquisition and Signal Processing Controller
- Probably TPM or fan control?
6 and 7) Other devices - PCI Device
- Probably Intel Management Engine or AMD Platform Security Processor. Likely unwanted.
8) Other devices - PCI Encryption/Decryption Controller
- Hardware encryption has been known to be unreliable, and software encryption is usually similar speeds these days (or sometimes even faster). If you aren't doing disk encryption, this likely doesn't affect you anyway.
9) Other devices - SM Bus Controller
- Likely Intel ME, AMD PSP, or fan control.
10 thru 18) Other devices - Unknown device
- Miscellaneous chipset things. Likely not needed.
19) System devices - ACPI Wake Alarm
- Used for scheduled wake from sleep or hibernate. Commonly used by Windows Update to power on or wake up the PC for updates. Not needed if you don't want that feature.
20) System devices - PCI Express Root Port
- Unknown. You'd need the driver for the port to be able to know what devices are downstream of it. Likely your chipset drivers will include this driver.
21) Universal Serial Bus controllers - UCSI USB Connector Manager
- Used for embedded systems functionality for USB-C ports. Likely not needed.]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-19T13:02:37+00:00 2025-07-19T13:02:37+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7178#p7178 I'll give 2019/2021 a try over the weekend.
I'm currently WinReducerEX'ing Win11 21H2 and seeing if I like it better than the 24H2 that was pre-installed when I bought the laptop.]]>
I'll give 2019/2021 a try over the weekend.
I'm currently WinReducerEX'ing Win11 21H2 and seeing if I like it better than the 24H2 that was pre-installed when I bought the laptop.]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-20T13:26:13+00:00 2025-07-20T13:26:13+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7180#p7180 Even Win11 21H2 and 22H2 has driver issues that Win11 24H2 does not have.
I'm sticking with Win11 24H2 for my Ryzen 5. Need it to be back to 100% by end of day.
May try Win11 23H2 one of these days, but too much trial-and-error for one weekend, prefer back to 100% for now.]]>
Even Win11 21H2 and 22H2 has driver issues that Win11 24H2 does not have.
I'm sticking with Win11 24H2 for my Ryzen 5. Need it to be back to 100% by end of day.
May try Win11 23H2 one of these days, but too much trial-and-error for one weekend, prefer back to 100% for now.]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by teknixstuff]]> 2025-07-20T13:44:59+00:00 2025-07-20T13:44:59+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7181#p7181
The-10-Pen wrote: 20 Jul 2025, 13:26 I've tried 2016, 2019, and 2021 Win10 - driver issues on all of them and no drivers to be found.
Even Win11 21H2 and 22H2 has driver issues that Win11 24H2 does not have.
I'm sticking with Win11 24H2 for my Ryzen 5. Need it to be back to 100% by end of day.
May try Win11 23H2 one of these days, but too much trial-and-error for one weekend, prefer back to 100% for now.
As i said previously, it's likely that most of those missing drivers aren't needed, and a lot of them look like they can be fixed just by installing your chipset drivers anyway.]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 20 Jul 2025, 13:26 I've tried 2016, 2019, and 2021 Win10 - driver issues on all of them and no drivers to be found.
Even Win11 21H2 and 22H2 has driver issues that Win11 24H2 does not have.
I'm sticking with Win11 24H2 for my Ryzen 5. Need it to be back to 100% by end of day.
May try Win11 23H2 one of these days, but too much trial-and-error for one weekend, prefer back to 100% for now.
As i said previously, it's likely that most of those missing drivers aren't needed, and a lot of them look like they can be fixed just by installing your chipset drivers anyway.]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-20T14:04:26+00:00 2025-07-20T14:04:26+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7182#p7182 "Aren't needed" is a subjective view. I want *everything* in Device Manager to be recognized.
What I enable or disable afterwards is a different story.

Some of them were even lagging the Start Menu or right-click context menus.
By like a whole TWO TO THREE MINUTES.]]>
"Aren't needed" is a subjective view. I want *everything* in Device Manager to be recognized.
What I enable or disable afterwards is a different story.

Some of them were even lagging the Start Menu or right-click context menus.
By like a whole TWO TO THREE MINUTES.]]>
<![CDATA[Operating System Customization :: Windows recommendation for new computer :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-20T17:21:54+00:00 2025-07-20T17:21:54+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=856&p=7183#p7183 There's a "lite OS" project that hosts some Ryzen chipset drivers - https://windowsxlite.com/software/
(Generally speaking, I am *not* a fan of these types of projects, I want to perform the tweaks myself so that I know I can trust them.)

I was doing a "pnputil /export-driver" from my laptop's original Win11 24H2.
Then doing a "pnputil /add-driver" with fresh-install Win10 and older versions of Win11.

While this is probably "theoretically" supposed to work, IT DID NOT WORK for my graphics (and audio) and bluetooth devices.]]>
There's a "lite OS" project that hosts some Ryzen chipset drivers - https://windowsxlite.com/software/
(Generally speaking, I am *not* a fan of these types of projects, I want to perform the tweaks myself so that I know I can trust them.)

I was doing a "pnputil /export-driver" from my laptop's original Win11 24H2.
Then doing a "pnputil /add-driver" with fresh-install Win10 and older versions of Win11.

While this is probably "theoretically" supposed to work, IT DID NOT WORK for my graphics (and audio) and bluetooth devices.]]>
<![CDATA[Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: AM4 boards Windows 7 compatibility list :: Reply by TSNH]]> 2025-06-29T18:28:59+00:00 2025-06-29T18:28:59+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=424&p=7089#p7089 Asus Prime B350-PLUS , Windows 7 x64 with Ryzen 5 1600AF]]> Asus Prime B350-PLUS , Windows 7 x64 with Ryzen 5 1600AF]]> <![CDATA[Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: [GUIDE] [DISCUSSION] [LIST] Windows Vista on modern hardware with UEFI. :: Reply by MouseFrr]]> 2025-06-29T23:41:56+00:00 2025-06-29T23:41:56+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=342&p=7093#p7093 <![CDATA[Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: [GUIDE] [DISCUSSION] [LIST] Windows Vista on modern hardware with UEFI. :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-06-30T23:20:45+00:00 2025-06-30T23:20:45+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=342&p=7097#p7097
MouseFrr wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 23:41 how do i install the KB2864202 64 bit file?
KB2864202 is for Windows 7 SP1, not for Vista.]]>
MouseFrr wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 23:41 how do i install the KB2864202 64 bit file?
KB2864202 is for Windows 7 SP1, not for Vista.]]>
<![CDATA[Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: This Windows Vista Pre-Installed Updates to April 2025 But It need Change :: Author god_damn_shezz]]> 2025-07-06T10:08:33+00:00 2025-07-06T10:08:33+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=855&p=7116#p7116 https://x.com/TheBobPony/status/1940930479701848310 And this Pre-Installed Update were done by Adguard,It includes all updates including ESUs to April 2025! W this Russian Guy. Even tho it need some changes, Like Adding the USB3 Drivers and other Necessary Driver with Windows Vista Extended Kernel, It would be awesome and people could use it and install it with no problem, also it includes x86 and x64 with other Languages

Download link Here

Can anyone Please make an Iso with pre-installed drivers with extended kernel? It would be useful!]]>
https://x.com/TheBobPony/status/1940930479701848310 And this Pre-Installed Update were done by Adguard,It includes all updates including ESUs to April 2025! W this Russian Guy. Even tho it need some changes, Like Adding the USB3 Drivers and other Necessary Driver with Windows Vista Extended Kernel, It would be awesome and people could use it and install it with no problem, also it includes x86 and x64 with other Languages

Download link Here

Can anyone Please make an Iso with pre-installed drivers with extended kernel? It would be useful!]]>
<![CDATA[Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton]]> 2025-07-14T17:56:38+00:00 2025-07-14T17:56:38+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=623&p=7161#p7161
K4sum1 wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:21 10 and 11 share a lot more than 8.1 and 10, so I'd assume it would be a while. There's not much that would break compatibility and I don't think they're going to artificially block it.
Do you forsee taking r3dFox into the next ESR cycle K4Sum1? Will there be v140.x ESR for 7 and 8?]]>
K4sum1 wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 21:21 10 and 11 share a lot more than 8.1 and 10, so I'd assume it would be a while. There's not much that would break compatibility and I don't think they're going to artificially block it.
Do you forsee taking r3dFox into the next ESR cycle K4Sum1? Will there be v140.x ESR for 7 and 8?]]>
<![CDATA[Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton]]> 2025-07-25T14:28:52+00:00 2025-07-25T14:28:52+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=623&p=7186#p7186
JodyThornton wrote: 14 Jul 2025, 17:56 Do you forsee taking r3dFox into the next ESR cycle K4Sum1? Will there be v140.x ESR for 7 and 8?

I received word from GitHub and MSFN that it WILL be upcoming. Thanks K4Sum1 :)]]>
JodyThornton wrote: 14 Jul 2025, 17:56 Do you forsee taking r3dFox into the next ESR cycle K4Sum1? Will there be v140.x ESR for 7 and 8?

I received word from GitHub and MSFN that it WILL be upcoming. Thanks K4Sum1 :)]]>
<![CDATA[Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1]]> 2025-07-25T15:26:20+00:00 2025-07-25T15:26:20+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=623&p=7188#p7188 <![CDATA[Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton]]> 2025-07-25T15:56:04+00:00 2025-07-25T15:56:04+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=623&p=7189#p7189
K4sum1 wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:26 The problem is I haven't felt like doing it, and I figured I'd feel up for it by now, but i just feel low energy and don't feel like doing anything. So current 140 and 141 will likely just be a basic upgrade with no other major changes. I'll probably wait and fix some bugs before making a 140 ESR release.
Not a rush AT ALL. I just wondered if r3dFox had a future. So all good!]]>
K4sum1 wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:26 The problem is I haven't felt like doing it, and I figured I'd feel up for it by now, but i just feel low energy and don't feel like doing anything. So current 140 and 141 will likely just be a basic upgrade with no other major changes. I'll probably wait and fix some bugs before making a 140 ESR release.
Not a rush AT ALL. I just wondered if r3dFox had a future. So all good!]]>
<![CDATA[Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-07-25T22:14:26+00:00 2025-07-25T22:14:26+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=623&p=7190#p7190
K4sum1 wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:26...The problem is I haven't felt like doing it, and I figured I'd feel up for it by now, but i just feel low energy and don't feel like doing anything...
You're not alone; K4 ... I'm much in the same boat and I feel quite hopeless if I'm being honest. Something is going around too in the environment adding to people being so mean and uptight outside and online ... I feel it which Is why you see me being so quiet but know I'm thinking of you and I know you'll pull through with this wonderful project as well as we as your other browsers. I LOVE Lun3r and use it all the time. Sometimes we just have to admit life can be very VERY tough for us dealing with illness. I care about you, so know that you didn't lose my friendship ... okay?]]>
K4sum1 wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:26...The problem is I haven't felt like doing it, and I figured I'd feel up for it by now, but i just feel low energy and don't feel like doing anything...
You're not alone; K4 ... I'm much in the same boat and I feel quite hopeless if I'm being honest. Something is going around too in the environment adding to people being so mean and uptight outside and online ... I feel it which Is why you see me being so quiet but know I'm thinking of you and I know you'll pull through with this wonderful project as well as we as your other browsers. I LOVE Lun3r and use it all the time. Sometimes we just have to admit life can be very VERY tough for us dealing with illness. I care about you, so know that you didn't lose my friendship ... okay?]]>
<![CDATA[Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-25T23:17:29+00:00 2025-07-25T23:17:29+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=623&p=7195#p7195
K4sum1 wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:26 So current 140 and 141 will likely just be a basic upgrade with no other major changes.
Still better than nothing because I have the feeling they will drop v115 ESR soon :?
https://whattrainisitnow.com/release/?version=esr

And there are many security fixes in Firefox v141:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2025-56/]]>
K4sum1 wrote: 25 Jul 2025, 15:26 So current 140 and 141 will likely just be a basic upgrade with no other major changes.
Still better than nothing because I have the feeling they will drop v115 ESR soon :?
https://whattrainisitnow.com/release/?version=esr

And there are many security fixes in Firefox v141:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2025-56/]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-04T22:58:24+00:00 2025-07-04T22:58:24+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7112#p7112
Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250705-3219d2d-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250705-3219d2d-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250705-3219d2d-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Make scrollbar width checks use the originating non-NAC style context on Linux and Mac (af84337437)
- Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Fix UAF when returning the non-NAC style context from a frameless node (6e358f1039)
- Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Avoid declaring RefPtr in the return statement (e4630ce481)
- Unprefix -moz-read-write / -moz-read-only (4cc014cb6b)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.]]>

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250705-3219d2d-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250705-3219d2d-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250705-3219d2d-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250705-d849524bd-uxp-9175504ffc-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Make scrollbar width checks use the originating non-NAC style context on Linux and Mac (af84337437)
- Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Fix UAF when returning the non-NAC style context from a frameless node (6e358f1039)
- Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Avoid declaring RefPtr in the return statement (e4630ce481)
- Unprefix -moz-read-write / -moz-read-only (4cc014cb6b)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-04T22:58:31+00:00 2025-07-04T22:58:31+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7113#p7113
Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250705-7bda12e7-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250705-7bda12e7-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250705-id-656ea98-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250705-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild]]>

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250705-7bda12e7-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250705-7bda12e7-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250705-id-656ea98-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250705-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-9175504ffc-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-04T22:58:36+00:00 2025-07-04T22:58:36+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7114#p7114 * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250705-e30943041-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250705-e30943041-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- import from UXP: Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Make scrollbar width checks use the originating non-NAC style context on Linux and Mac (af843374) (60255fc16)
- import from UXP: Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Fix UAF when returning the non-NAC style context from a frameless node (6e358f10) (8580d4e5d)
- ported from UXP: Unprefix -moz-read-write / -moz-read-only (4cc014cb) (e30943041)]]>
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250705-e30943041-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250705-e30943041-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- import from UXP: Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Make scrollbar width checks use the originating non-NAC style context on Linux and Mac (af843374) (60255fc16)
- import from UXP: Issue #2765 - Follow-up: Fix UAF when returning the non-NAC style context from a frameless node (6e358f10) (8580d4e5d)
- ported from UXP: Unprefix -moz-read-write / -moz-read-only (4cc014cb) (e30943041)]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-12T01:09:34+00:00 2025-07-12T01:09:34+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7153#p7153
Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2106 - Part 1: Un-prefix -moz-user-select (cc55a380f6)
- Issue #2106 - Part 2: Align value names (17b594b705)
- No issue - Fix mixing of tabs with space-indented code. (552cb8dbcc)
- Issue #2045 - Part 1: Revert "Temporarily force hidden elements to be actually hidden." (dd2cf17d30)
- Issue #2045 - Part 2: Add handling and storage for the revert unit and value (7f3f90eed4)
- Issue #2045 - Part 3: Implement cascade origin tracking to CSS parser (b0f0972314)
- Issue #2045 - Part 4: Parse "revert" in property values wherever "unset" is allowed (9105c58a30)
- Issue #2045 - Part 5: Serialize shorthands using "revert" like those containing "unset" (801d4a2db8)
- Issue #2045 - Part 6: Treat "revert" values as the same as "unset" when encountered in the rule node (c4b6135c99)
- Issue #2045 - Part 7: Override revert values during presentation hint cascade (166e98d2b9)
- Issue #2045 - Part 8: Remap revert keyword values to a higher cascade level (a47f44e93d)
- Issue #2045 - Part 9: Include the revert keyword in the list of accepted values for CSS properties returned by inDOMUtils (5346e55655)
- Issue #2045 - Part 10: Regenerate devtools CSS database and include the revert keyword in related devtools code (f0b8d1df2c)
- Issue #2106 - Part 3: Add 'contain' as user-select value, retain 'element' (e6b48fcc95)
- [devtools] Further improve special character escaping in "copy as curl". (2d9cb22a28)
- No Issue - Add detection for medium in border shorthand (9f7430f8b9)
- Issue #2124 - Adjust overflow parser to handle two values (f4ffb1ec16)
- Issue #2662 - Implement axis-shorthand parsing (7c52fd934f)
- Issue #2124/2662: Optimize overflow shorthand parsing and serialization (7626c99ceb)
- Issue #2124/2662: Cleaning of code (dae72b452c)
- Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional Un-prefixing (1a5b3dcae6)
- Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Un-prefix DOM Attribute MozUserSelect (abb891ff26)
- Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional contain Keyword Entries (f1815317c3)
- Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Remove Defunct -moz-user-select CSS Directives (8f46cd0d63)
- Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Un-prefix -moz-user-select in Comments (b11affbdf3)
- Issue #2780: Add back the mismatch overflow handling in nsRuleNode.cpp (c3590da576)
- Issue #2757: Create a new basicShape of type inset then set inset coords to zero. (67421b3048)
- Issue #2757 - Follow-up: Add clip-path test (manual QA) (3f67905afc)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- gfx: relax DrawTargetCairo::IsValid() check, fixes crash when loading spectrumsurveys.com (10b96192dd)
- layout: plug back alias of -moz-user-select so it won't break pages/extensions relying on this (4c8df426a8)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.]]>

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250712-3219d2d-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250712-d849524bd-uxp-b9ebe5b259-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2106 - Part 1: Un-prefix -moz-user-select (cc55a380f6)
- Issue #2106 - Part 2: Align value names (17b594b705)
- No issue - Fix mixing of tabs with space-indented code. (552cb8dbcc)
- Issue #2045 - Part 1: Revert "Temporarily force hidden elements to be actually hidden." (dd2cf17d30)
- Issue #2045 - Part 2: Add handling and storage for the revert unit and value (7f3f90eed4)
- Issue #2045 - Part 3: Implement cascade origin tracking to CSS parser (b0f0972314)
- Issue #2045 - Part 4: Parse "revert" in property values wherever "unset" is allowed (9105c58a30)
- Issue #2045 - Part 5: Serialize shorthands using "revert" like those containing "unset" (801d4a2db8)
- Issue #2045 - Part 6: Treat "revert" values as the same as "unset" when encountered in the rule node (c4b6135c99)
- Issue #2045 - Part 7: Override revert values during presentation hint cascade (166e98d2b9)
- Issue #2045 - Part 8: Remap revert keyword values to a higher cascade level (a47f44e93d)
- Issue #2045 - Part 9: Include the revert keyword in the list of accepted values for CSS properties returned by inDOMUtils (5346e55655)
- Issue #2045 - Part 10: Regenerate devtools CSS database and include the revert keyword in related devtools code (f0b8d1df2c)
- Issue #2106 - Part 3: Add 'contain' as user-select value, retain 'element' (e6b48fcc95)
- [devtools] Further improve special character escaping in "copy as curl". (2d9cb22a28)
- No Issue - Add detection for medium in border shorthand (9f7430f8b9)
- Issue #2124 - Adjust overflow parser to handle two values (f4ffb1ec16)
- Issue #2662 - Implement axis-shorthand parsing (7c52fd934f)
- Issue #2124/2662: Optimize overflow shorthand parsing and serialization (7626c99ceb)
- Issue #2124/2662: Cleaning of code (dae72b452c)
- Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional Un-prefixing (1a5b3dcae6)
- Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Un-prefix DOM Attribute MozUserSelect (abb891ff26)
- Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional contain Keyword Entries (f1815317c3)
- Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Remove Defunct -moz-user-select CSS Directives (8f46cd0d63)
- Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Un-prefix -moz-user-select in Comments (b11affbdf3)
- Issue #2780: Add back the mismatch overflow handling in nsRuleNode.cpp (c3590da576)
- Issue #2757: Create a new basicShape of type inset then set inset coords to zero. (67421b3048)
- Issue #2757 - Follow-up: Add clip-path test (manual QA) (3f67905afc)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- gfx: relax DrawTargetCairo::IsValid() check, fixes crash when loading spectrumsurveys.com (10b96192dd)
- layout: plug back alias of -moz-user-select so it won't break pages/extensions relying on this (4c8df426a8)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-12T01:09:46+00:00 2025-07-12T01:09:46+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7154#p7154
Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250712-7bda12e7-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250712-7bda12e7-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250712-id-656ea98-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250712-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild]]>

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250712-7bda12e7-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250712-7bda12e7-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250712-id-656ea98-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250712-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-b9ebe5b259-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-12T01:09:54+00:00 2025-07-12T01:09:54+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7155#p7155 * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250712-6129895b4-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250712-6129895b4-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 1: Un-prefix -moz-user-select (cc55a380) (cfadbb5d6)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 2: Align value names (17b594b7) (3a0677ec7)
- import from UXP: No issue - Fix mixing of tabs with space-indented code. (552cb8db) (4634fe9d1)
- import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 1: Revert "Temporarily force hidden elements to be actually hidden." (dd2cf17d) (29e601bb8)
- import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 2: Add handling and storage for the revert unit and value (7f3f90ee) (f49dc1068)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 3: Implement cascade origin tracking to CSS parser (b0f09723) (13380336f)
- import from UXP:
- Issue #2045 - Part 4: Parse "revert" in property values wherever "unset" is allowed (9105c58a)
- Issue #2045 - Part 5: Serialize shorthands using "revert" like those containing "unset" (801d4a2d) (f780f6a0c)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 6: Treat "revert" values as the same as "unset" when encountered in the rule node (c4b6135c) (0ddba686d)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 7: Override revert values during presentation hint cascade (166e98d2) (33497a7bb)
- import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 8: Remap revert keyword values to a higher cascade level (a47f44e9) (7e8276dd1)
- import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 9: Include the revert keyword in the list of accepted values for CSS properties returned by inDOMUtils (5346e556) (5b3195dad)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 10: Regenerate devtools CSS database and include the revert keyword in related devtools code (f0b8d1df) (e92c563a4)
- import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 3: Add 'contain' as user-select value, retain 'element' (e6b48fcc) (f073823cd)
- ported from UXP: [devtools] Further improve special character escaping in "copy as curl". (2d9cb22a) (28bf4bcf2)
- ported from UXP: No Issue - Add detection for medium in border shorthand (9f7430f8) (4f0690a20)
- import from UXP: Issue #2124 - Adjust overflow parser to handle two values (f4ffb1ec) (ae483ab3b)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2662 - Implement axis-shorthand parsing (7c52fd93) (f7844356c)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2124/2662: Optimize overflow shorthand parsing and serialization (7626c99c) (55a3af5f7)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2124/2662: Cleaning of code (dae72b45) (9c80beb8f)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional Un-prefixing (1a5b3dca) (82ff6f599)
- import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Un-prefix DOM Attribute MozUserSelect (abb891ff) (2b505c1fd)
- import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional contain Keyword Entries (f1815317) (db2c8fdb5)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Remove Defunct -moz-user-select CSS Directives (8f46cd0d) (37991f84a)
- import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Un-prefix -moz-user-select in Comments (b11affbd) (477ab51c4)
- import from UXP: Issue #2780: Add back the mismatch overflow handling in nsRuleNode.cpp (c3590da5) (0ee810368)
- import from UXP: Issue #2757: Create a new basicShape of type inset then set inset coords to zero. (67421b30) (0ea914daf)
- import from UXP: Issue #2757 - Follow-up: Add clip-path test (manual QA) (3f67905a) (1b8fbc344)
- import from `custom` branch of UXP: gfx: relax DrawTargetCairo::IsValid() check, fixes crash when loading spectrumsurveys.com (10b96192) (6129895b4)]]>
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250712-6129895b4-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250712-6129895b4-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 1: Un-prefix -moz-user-select (cc55a380) (cfadbb5d6)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 2: Align value names (17b594b7) (3a0677ec7)
- import from UXP: No issue - Fix mixing of tabs with space-indented code. (552cb8db) (4634fe9d1)
- import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 1: Revert "Temporarily force hidden elements to be actually hidden." (dd2cf17d) (29e601bb8)
- import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 2: Add handling and storage for the revert unit and value (7f3f90ee) (f49dc1068)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 3: Implement cascade origin tracking to CSS parser (b0f09723) (13380336f)
- import from UXP:
- Issue #2045 - Part 4: Parse "revert" in property values wherever "unset" is allowed (9105c58a)
- Issue #2045 - Part 5: Serialize shorthands using "revert" like those containing "unset" (801d4a2d) (f780f6a0c)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 6: Treat "revert" values as the same as "unset" when encountered in the rule node (c4b6135c) (0ddba686d)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 7: Override revert values during presentation hint cascade (166e98d2) (33497a7bb)
- import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 8: Remap revert keyword values to a higher cascade level (a47f44e9) (7e8276dd1)
- import from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 9: Include the revert keyword in the list of accepted values for CSS properties returned by inDOMUtils (5346e556) (5b3195dad)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2045 - Part 10: Regenerate devtools CSS database and include the revert keyword in related devtools code (f0b8d1df) (e92c563a4)
- import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Part 3: Add 'contain' as user-select value, retain 'element' (e6b48fcc) (f073823cd)
- ported from UXP: [devtools] Further improve special character escaping in "copy as curl". (2d9cb22a) (28bf4bcf2)
- ported from UXP: No Issue - Add detection for medium in border shorthand (9f7430f8) (4f0690a20)
- import from UXP: Issue #2124 - Adjust overflow parser to handle two values (f4ffb1ec) (ae483ab3b)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2662 - Implement axis-shorthand parsing (7c52fd93) (f7844356c)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2124/2662: Optimize overflow shorthand parsing and serialization (7626c99c) (55a3af5f7)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2124/2662: Cleaning of code (dae72b45) (9c80beb8f)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional Un-prefixing (1a5b3dca) (82ff6f599)
- import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Un-prefix DOM Attribute MozUserSelect (abb891ff) (2b505c1fd)
- import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Follow-up: Additional contain Keyword Entries (f1815317) (db2c8fdb5)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Remove Defunct -moz-user-select CSS Directives (8f46cd0d) (37991f84a)
- import from UXP: Issue #2106 - Clean-up: Un-prefix -moz-user-select in Comments (b11affbd) (477ab51c4)
- import from UXP: Issue #2780: Add back the mismatch overflow handling in nsRuleNode.cpp (c3590da5) (0ee810368)
- import from UXP: Issue #2757: Create a new basicShape of type inset then set inset coords to zero. (67421b30) (0ea914daf)
- import from UXP: Issue #2757 - Follow-up: Add clip-path test (manual QA) (3f67905a) (1b8fbc344)
- import from `custom` branch of UXP: gfx: relax DrawTargetCairo::IsValid() check, fixes crash when loading spectrumsurveys.com (10b96192) (6129895b4)]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-18T22:59:08+00:00 2025-07-18T22:59:08+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7173#p7173
Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250719-3219d2d-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250719-3219d2d-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250719-3219d2d-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250719-d849524bd-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250719-d849524bd-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250719-d849524bd-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250719-d849524bd-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250719-d849524bd-uxp-198222fc03-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2499 - Part 1: Add overflow: clip support and tests (ad396c6c59)
- Issue #2499 - Part 2: Fix overflow shorthand serialization for mixed clip values (205ea844f4)
- Issue #2499 - Part 3: Add CSS clip overflow support with serialization fixes (5e8e1208e7)
- Issue #2720 - Follow-up: Use temp value for duplicate color stop (07cf2e643f)
- Issue #2736 - Follow-up: Stop using worker thread-only functions for checking if CSP is enabled (c8608ad5cf)
- Issue #2792 -Implements parsing, computed style, and writing mode mapping for overflow-block and overflow-inline properties (0903dacaa7)
- Issue #2691: Implement ParseSupportsSelector (8be86514f0)
- Issue #2691: Adjusted the function to use ParseSelectorGroup (e9a7190529)
- Issue #2691: Add basic parentheses tracking to ParseSupportsSelector (fcb4b3d01f)
- Issue #2691: Improve token handling for selectors (69556b7b1b)
- Issue #2691: Enhance spacing logic for selector formatting (aaae6484ee)
- Issue #2691: Add special handling for nth-child expressions (224d1724b2)
- Issue #2691: Improve Parser State Handling (ea580ec54b)
- Issue #2691: Refactored ParseSupportsSelector (f2d6170830)
- Issue #2691: Utilize regex for spacing rules (906f05e606)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.]]>

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250719-3219d2d-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250719-3219d2d-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250719-3219d2d-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250719-d849524bd-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250719-d849524bd-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250719-d849524bd-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250719-d849524bd-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250719-d849524bd-uxp-198222fc03-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2499 - Part 1: Add overflow: clip support and tests (ad396c6c59)
- Issue #2499 - Part 2: Fix overflow shorthand serialization for mixed clip values (205ea844f4)
- Issue #2499 - Part 3: Add CSS clip overflow support with serialization fixes (5e8e1208e7)
- Issue #2720 - Follow-up: Use temp value for duplicate color stop (07cf2e643f)
- Issue #2736 - Follow-up: Stop using worker thread-only functions for checking if CSP is enabled (c8608ad5cf)
- Issue #2792 -Implements parsing, computed style, and writing mode mapping for overflow-block and overflow-inline properties (0903dacaa7)
- Issue #2691: Implement ParseSupportsSelector (8be86514f0)
- Issue #2691: Adjusted the function to use ParseSelectorGroup (e9a7190529)
- Issue #2691: Add basic parentheses tracking to ParseSupportsSelector (fcb4b3d01f)
- Issue #2691: Improve token handling for selectors (69556b7b1b)
- Issue #2691: Enhance spacing logic for selector formatting (aaae6484ee)
- Issue #2691: Add special handling for nth-child expressions (224d1724b2)
- Issue #2691: Improve Parser State Handling (ea580ec54b)
- Issue #2691: Refactored ParseSupportsSelector (f2d6170830)
- Issue #2691: Utilize regex for spacing rules (906f05e606)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-18T22:59:15+00:00 2025-07-18T22:59:15+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7174#p7174
Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250719-7bda12e7-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250719-7bda12e7-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250719-id-656ea98-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250719-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild]]>

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250719-7bda12e7-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250719-7bda12e7-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250719-id-656ea98-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250719-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-198222fc03-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-18T22:59:19+00:00 2025-07-18T22:59:19+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7175#p7175 * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250719-3577496e0-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250719-3577496e0-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- import from UXP: Issue #2499 - Part 1: Add overflow: clip support and tests (ad396c6c) (70c17fd4f)
- import from UXP: Issue #2499 - Part 2: Fix overflow shorthand serialization for mixed clip values (205ea844) (ec17993dc)
- import from UXP: Issue #2499 - Part 3: Add CSS clip overflow support with serialization fixes (5e8e1208) (68ce5c95d)
- import from UXP: Issue #2720 - Follow-up: Use temp value for duplicate color stop (07cf2e64) (df0626865)
- import from UXP: Issue #2736 - Follow-up: Stop using worker thread-only functions for checking if CSP is enabled (c8608ad5) (c9ee7fc5a)
- import from UXP: Issue #2792 -Implements parsing, computed style, and writing mode mapping for overflow-block and overflow-inline properties (0903daca) (7194d6223)
- import from UXP: Issue #2691: Implement ParseSupportsSelector (squashed) (3577496e0)]]>
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250719-3577496e0-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250719-3577496e0-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- import from UXP: Issue #2499 - Part 1: Add overflow: clip support and tests (ad396c6c) (70c17fd4f)
- import from UXP: Issue #2499 - Part 2: Fix overflow shorthand serialization for mixed clip values (205ea844) (ec17993dc)
- import from UXP: Issue #2499 - Part 3: Add CSS clip overflow support with serialization fixes (5e8e1208) (68ce5c95d)
- import from UXP: Issue #2720 - Follow-up: Use temp value for duplicate color stop (07cf2e64) (df0626865)
- import from UXP: Issue #2736 - Follow-up: Stop using worker thread-only functions for checking if CSP is enabled (c8608ad5) (c9ee7fc5a)
- import from UXP: Issue #2792 -Implements parsing, computed style, and writing mode mapping for overflow-block and overflow-inline properties (0903daca) (7194d6223)
- import from UXP: Issue #2691: Implement ParseSupportsSelector (squashed) (3577496e0)]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-25T22:54:56+00:00 2025-07-25T22:54:56+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7191#p7191
Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250726-3219d2d-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250726-3219d2d-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250726-3219d2d-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2691 - Follow-up: Add manual tests (5869164e31)
- Issue #2826 - Set up fontconfig on XRE startup (GTK only) (b992da05eb)
- No issue - Adjust CSP URI reporting more closely with the spec. (0a8f50fafa)
- [gfx] Hold a stronger reference to gfxFontEntry. (40f96b82ad)
- [js] Align br_table limits with V8/Gecko. (3f297457d8)
- [network] Stop accepting nameless cookies. (cdc8127cd1)
- [DOM] Make object loading use an explicit scheme whitelist. (f902d2ad0e)
- Issue #2828 - Part 1: Build and store the array of layer name tokens in the layer at-rules (53e6317bfb)
- Issue #2828 - Part 2: Collect and hold rule cascade data per cascade layer (7b51aa7ca1)
- Issue #2828 - Part 3: Refactor selector matching and rule cascade data into separate files/classes (03f29e75ec)
- Issue #2828 - Part 4: Move cache key storage to ResolvedRuleCascades (aab9cdf9bd)
- Issue #2828 - Part 5: Implement child rule processors (e05d4d8306)
- Issue #2828 - Part 6: Assert rules were added to the rule cascade data (d3b305b819)
- Issue #2828 - Part 7: Walk child rule processors separately and ensure inverted cascade layer order is enforced for important rules (ec57be653a)
- Issue #2828 - Part 8: Extract RuleProcessorGroup (formerly ResolvedRuleCascades) into separate file (3605630f4e)
- Issue #2828 - Part 9: Rename CascadeEnumData to CascadeLayer (1655a5a4a9)
- Issue #2828 – Part 10: Clean up cascade layer constructor (a922ec0823)
- Issue #2828 - Part 11: Detach weighted rule data from cascade layer (cbb019a862)
- Issue #2828 - Part 12: Implement cascade layer SizeOfIncludingThis (e3476d33ed)
- Issue #2828 - Part 13: Exclude strong layers-related code from release builds (318031c74b)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- layout: partly revert rev 5e8e120 for keeping -moz-hidden-unscrollable to work (44e5bd7711)
- [Basilisk] css: replace -moz-hidden-unscrollable with clip (c466a1385f)
- [Pale-Moon] css: replace -moz-hidden-unscrollable with clip (9e02324b0b)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.]]>

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250726-3219d2d-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250726-3219d2d-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250726-3219d2d-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250726-d849524bd-uxp-7e0ddfef73-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2691 - Follow-up: Add manual tests (5869164e31)
- Issue #2826 - Set up fontconfig on XRE startup (GTK only) (b992da05eb)
- No issue - Adjust CSP URI reporting more closely with the spec. (0a8f50fafa)
- [gfx] Hold a stronger reference to gfxFontEntry. (40f96b82ad)
- [js] Align br_table limits with V8/Gecko. (3f297457d8)
- [network] Stop accepting nameless cookies. (cdc8127cd1)
- [DOM] Make object loading use an explicit scheme whitelist. (f902d2ad0e)
- Issue #2828 - Part 1: Build and store the array of layer name tokens in the layer at-rules (53e6317bfb)
- Issue #2828 - Part 2: Collect and hold rule cascade data per cascade layer (7b51aa7ca1)
- Issue #2828 - Part 3: Refactor selector matching and rule cascade data into separate files/classes (03f29e75ec)
- Issue #2828 - Part 4: Move cache key storage to ResolvedRuleCascades (aab9cdf9bd)
- Issue #2828 - Part 5: Implement child rule processors (e05d4d8306)
- Issue #2828 - Part 6: Assert rules were added to the rule cascade data (d3b305b819)
- Issue #2828 - Part 7: Walk child rule processors separately and ensure inverted cascade layer order is enforced for important rules (ec57be653a)
- Issue #2828 - Part 8: Extract RuleProcessorGroup (formerly ResolvedRuleCascades) into separate file (3605630f4e)
- Issue #2828 - Part 9: Rename CascadeEnumData to CascadeLayer (1655a5a4a9)
- Issue #2828 – Part 10: Clean up cascade layer constructor (a922ec0823)
- Issue #2828 - Part 11: Detach weighted rule data from cascade layer (cbb019a862)
- Issue #2828 - Part 12: Implement cascade layer SizeOfIncludingThis (e3476d33ed)
- Issue #2828 - Part 13: Exclude strong layers-related code from release builds (318031c74b)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- layout: partly revert rev 5e8e120 for keeping -moz-hidden-unscrollable to work (44e5bd7711)
- [Basilisk] css: replace -moz-hidden-unscrollable with clip (c466a1385f)
- [Pale-Moon] css: replace -moz-hidden-unscrollable with clip (9e02324b0b)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-25T22:55:03+00:00 2025-07-25T22:55:03+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7192#p7192
Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250726-7bda12e7-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250726-7bda12e7-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250726-id-656ea98-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250726-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild]]>

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20250726-7bda12e7-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20250726-7bda12e7-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20250726-id-656ea98-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20250726-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-7e0ddfef73-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild]]>
<![CDATA[RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1]]> 2025-07-25T22:55:08+00:00 2025-07-25T22:55:08+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35&p=7193#p7193 * Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250726-c41cda278-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250726-c41cda278-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- import from `custom` branch of UXP: [Basilisk] css: replace -moz-hidden-unscrollable with clip (a0f628da2)
- import from `custom` branch of UXP: layout: partly revert rev 5e8e120 for keeping -moz-hidden-unscrollable to work (9ce6fba76)
- import from UXP: Issue #2691 - Follow-up: Add manual tests (5869164e) (d4cd9cc60)
- import from UXP: Issue #2826 - Set up fontconfig on XRE startup (GTK only) (b992da05) (207207241)
- import from UXP: No issue - Adjust CSP URI reporting more closely with the spec. (0a8f50fa) (96316a8d7)
- import from UXP: [gfx] Hold a stronger reference to gfxFontEntry. (40f96b82) (b6584ea5e)
- ported from UXP: [js] Align br_table limits with V8/Gecko. (3f297457) (720ef774c)
- import from UXP: [network] Stop accepting nameless cookies. (cdc8127c) (15f4be2b2)
- import from UXP: [DOM] Make object loading use an explicit scheme whitelist. (f902d2ad) (da9ac104c)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 1: Build and store the array of layer name tokens in the layer at-rules (53e6317b) (21ff29fca)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 2: Collect and hold rule cascade data per cascade layer (7b51aa7c) (37d446504)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 3: Refactor selector matching and rule cascade data into separate files/classes (03f29e75) (eb52d9cd2)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 4: Move cache key storage to ResolvedRuleCascades (aab9cdf9) (f6755c8be)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 5: Implement child rule processors (e05d4d83) (595bed820)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 6: Assert rules were added to the rule cascade data (d3b305b8) (5cde0ecef)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 7: Walk child rule processors separately and ensure inverted cascade layer order is enforced for important rules (ec57be65) (7c4314376)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 8: Extract RuleProcessorGroup (formerly ResolvedRuleCascades) into separate file (3605630f) (0a5d13c19)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 9: Rename CascadeEnumData to CascadeLayer (1655a5a4) (cbf54b1f1)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 – Part 10: Clean up cascade layer constructor (a922ec08) (28c6452d7)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 11: Detach weighted rule data from cascade layer (cbb019a8) (4b366e590)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 12: Implement cascade layer SizeOfIncludingThis (e3476d33) (40fa28911)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 13: Exclude strong layers-related code from release builds (318031c7) (c41cda278)]]>
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20250726-c41cda278-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20250726-c41cda278-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- import from `custom` branch of UXP: [Basilisk] css: replace -moz-hidden-unscrollable with clip (a0f628da2)
- import from `custom` branch of UXP: layout: partly revert rev 5e8e120 for keeping -moz-hidden-unscrollable to work (9ce6fba76)
- import from UXP: Issue #2691 - Follow-up: Add manual tests (5869164e) (d4cd9cc60)
- import from UXP: Issue #2826 - Set up fontconfig on XRE startup (GTK only) (b992da05) (207207241)
- import from UXP: No issue - Adjust CSP URI reporting more closely with the spec. (0a8f50fa) (96316a8d7)
- import from UXP: [gfx] Hold a stronger reference to gfxFontEntry. (40f96b82) (b6584ea5e)
- ported from UXP: [js] Align br_table limits with V8/Gecko. (3f297457) (720ef774c)
- import from UXP: [network] Stop accepting nameless cookies. (cdc8127c) (15f4be2b2)
- import from UXP: [DOM] Make object loading use an explicit scheme whitelist. (f902d2ad) (da9ac104c)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 1: Build and store the array of layer name tokens in the layer at-rules (53e6317b) (21ff29fca)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 2: Collect and hold rule cascade data per cascade layer (7b51aa7c) (37d446504)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 3: Refactor selector matching and rule cascade data into separate files/classes (03f29e75) (eb52d9cd2)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 4: Move cache key storage to ResolvedRuleCascades (aab9cdf9) (f6755c8be)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 5: Implement child rule processors (e05d4d83) (595bed820)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 6: Assert rules were added to the rule cascade data (d3b305b8) (5cde0ecef)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 7: Walk child rule processors separately and ensure inverted cascade layer order is enforced for important rules (ec57be65) (7c4314376)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 8: Extract RuleProcessorGroup (formerly ResolvedRuleCascades) into separate file (3605630f) (0a5d13c19)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 9: Rename CascadeEnumData to CascadeLayer (1655a5a4) (cbf54b1f1)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 – Part 10: Clean up cascade layer constructor (a922ec08) (28c6452d7)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 11: Detach weighted rule data from cascade layer (cbb019a8) (4b366e590)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 12: Implement cascade layer SizeOfIncludingThis (e3476d33) (40fa28911)
- import from UXP: Issue #2828 - Part 13: Exclude strong layers-related code from release builds (318031c7) (c41cda278)]]>
<![CDATA[Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-07-13T22:41:47+00:00 2025-07-13T22:41:47+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=658&p=7160#p7160 https://codeberg.org/Theodor2/Mypal68/releases/tag/74.1.0
or
https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/releases/tag/74.1.0]]>
https://codeberg.org/Theodor2/Mypal68/releases/tag/74.1.0
or
https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/releases/tag/74.1.0]]>
<![CDATA[Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-07-26T22:46:11+00:00 2025-07-26T22:46:11+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=658&p=7196#p7196 <![CDATA[Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by K4sum1]]> 2025-07-27T13:59:07+00:00 2025-07-27T13:59:07+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=658&p=7197#p7197 <![CDATA[Community ISOs :: The New Alpha XP Project X64 (Ver 1.0 Beta 1 Now Available) :: Reply by RedBeam]]> 2025-07-07T16:45:56+00:00 2025-07-07T16:45:56+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=844&p=7120#p7120 (Announcement) Ver 1.1 Refresh Will Release July-August 2025 With Lots Of New Improvements And Changes Being Made As Well As A Fix For Th AHCI Driver Bug Thanks -RedBeam]]> (Announcement) Ver 1.1 Refresh Will Release July-August 2025 With Lots Of New Improvements And Changes Being Made As Well As A Fix For Th AHCI Driver Bug Thanks -RedBeam]]> <![CDATA[Community ISOs :: Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by god_damn_shezz]]> 2025-07-07T17:20:40+00:00 2025-07-07T17:20:40+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=402&p=7122#p7122 <![CDATA[Community ISOs :: Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by K4sum1]]> 2025-07-25T14:34:42+00:00 2025-07-25T14:34:42+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=402&p=7187#p7187 <![CDATA[General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-06-30T01:33:41+00:00 2025-06-30T01:33:41+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=485&p=7096#p7096 ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-07-03T23:06:34+00:00 2025-07-03T23:06:34+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=780&p=7103#p7103 I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be.”
― George Carlin]]>
I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be.”
― George Carlin]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by UCyborg]]> 2025-06-29T11:24:37+00:00 2025-06-29T11:24:37+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=841&p=7086#p7086 <![CDATA[General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by Duke]]> 2025-06-29T12:07:03+00:00 2025-06-29T12:07:03+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=841&p=7087#p7087
UCyborg wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 11:24 So far, I was only to female dentists.
What ? :eh:
I guess you have posted in the wrong thread.]]>
UCyborg wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 11:24 So far, I was only to female dentists.
What ? :eh:
I guess you have posted in the wrong thread.]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by UCyborg]]> 2025-06-29T21:33:07+00:00 2025-06-29T21:33:07+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=841&p=7091#p7091 <![CDATA[General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-07-03T23:07:43+00:00 2025-07-03T23:07:43+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=841&p=7104#p7104
UCyborg wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 11:24 So far, I was only to female dentists.
<OT>
Really :?: :!:
OT>]]>
UCyborg wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 11:24 So far, I was only to female dentists.
<OT>
Really :?: :!:
OT>]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-03T23:40:20+00:00 2025-07-03T23:40:20+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=841&p=7105#p7105 I've never in my entire life (spanning EIGHT U.S. STATES) met a male oral hygienist.
I've never in my entire life (same EIGHT U.S. STATES) met a female dentist.

So yeah! To eh ee double hockey stick with toothpaste commercials always always always portraying a female dentist.

Reverse prejudice is still prejudice. To eh ee with all of the overboard wokeist BS.
I'm entitled to my "triggers", lol.]]>
I've never in my entire life (spanning EIGHT U.S. STATES) met a male oral hygienist.
I've never in my entire life (same EIGHT U.S. STATES) met a female dentist.

So yeah! To eh ee double hockey stick with toothpaste commercials always always always portraying a female dentist.

Reverse prejudice is still prejudice. To eh ee with all of the overboard wokeist BS.
I'm entitled to my "triggers", lol.]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: Post your desktops here! :: Reply by ginger334]]> 2025-07-10T18:18:07+00:00 2025-07-10T18:18:07+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=159&p=7135#p7135 info:
yes this is Windows 10 ltsc iot. (themed to look like 7 but in polish) (using relive7 iso)
also i base it on 2015's era so some icons look old.
that is a Mac OS X mountain lion wallpaper called "Mt. Fuji"
Image]]>
info:
yes this is Windows 10 ltsc iot. (themed to look like 7 but in polish) (using relive7 iso)
also i base it on 2015's era so some icons look old.
that is a Mac OS X mountain lion wallpaper called "Mt. Fuji"
Image]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: MSFN Is Still Missing (3/26/24) :: Reply by JodyThornton]]> 2025-07-10T17:23:56+00:00 2025-07-10T17:23:56+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=554&p=7131#p7131 <![CDATA[General Chat :: MSFN Is Still Missing (3/26/24) :: Reply by JodyThornton]]> 2025-07-10T22:01:52+00:00 2025-07-10T22:01:52+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=554&p=7146#p7146 ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg]]> 2025-06-29T21:32:08+00:00 2025-06-29T21:32:08+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7090#p7090
The-10-Pen wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 08:20 Regarding "keeping outings short".
That is something that the whole *BS* "Covid Culture" has STOLEN STOLEN STOLEN from me!
You forgot to patent it. /S
xperceniol_sal wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 23:34 I don't either and a LOT of the people I used to be close to are dead now.
A lot? I was close only to one person from high school. It must have lasted about a decade, then was ghosted shortly after COVID-19 settled down.

Yeah, be here long enough and the death starts knocking. It's an unsettling feeling to say the least, suddenly you realize that or that person is suddenly older than the version in your memory. And at some point, funerals...

People from generation Z tend to remind me, damn, I'm slowly racking up my years.
xperceniol_sal wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 23:34 I'm not in a good head space and I feel very disconnected and like I'm just a walking zombie cadaver. I'm already dead I just haven't fallen over yet.
I relate, moving through life like a walking corpse, all too familiar. Even my (stupid) family occasionally remarks that there's no life in me.
xperceniol_sal wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 23:34 I can't even get into a good game anymore without depression taking over. Most days I just curl up on the sofa and wait for bed time.
Computer games are one shining light in this otherwise anhedonic existence for me. Not as exciting as they used to be, but I'm partially successful in enjoying them again. Work gets in the way, not as thrilled about playing after already spending good amount of time at computer at work.

Played a bit more this week when I was free. I have too many games on my Steam account, but I usually end up just replaying old favorites.

Having your present stained by the past events suck, cannot escape from one's own body, I just cope in a way I'm able to. There's no real solution and people might fall in all sort of holes that end up hurting their bodies more long term. Some sort of physical activity might be beneficial.]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 27 Jun 2025, 08:20 Regarding "keeping outings short".
That is something that the whole *BS* "Covid Culture" has STOLEN STOLEN STOLEN from me!
You forgot to patent it. /S
xperceniol_sal wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 23:34 I don't either and a LOT of the people I used to be close to are dead now.
A lot? I was close only to one person from high school. It must have lasted about a decade, then was ghosted shortly after COVID-19 settled down.

Yeah, be here long enough and the death starts knocking. It's an unsettling feeling to say the least, suddenly you realize that or that person is suddenly older than the version in your memory. And at some point, funerals...

People from generation Z tend to remind me, damn, I'm slowly racking up my years.
xperceniol_sal wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 23:34 I'm not in a good head space and I feel very disconnected and like I'm just a walking zombie cadaver. I'm already dead I just haven't fallen over yet.
I relate, moving through life like a walking corpse, all too familiar. Even my (stupid) family occasionally remarks that there's no life in me.
xperceniol_sal wrote: 26 Jun 2025, 23:34 I can't even get into a good game anymore without depression taking over. Most days I just curl up on the sofa and wait for bed time.
Computer games are one shining light in this otherwise anhedonic existence for me. Not as exciting as they used to be, but I'm partially successful in enjoying them again. Work gets in the way, not as thrilled about playing after already spending good amount of time at computer at work.

Played a bit more this week when I was free. I have too many games on my Steam account, but I usually end up just replaying old favorites.

Having your present stained by the past events suck, cannot escape from one's own body, I just cope in a way I'm able to. There's no real solution and people might fall in all sort of holes that end up hurting their bodies more long term. Some sort of physical activity might be beneficial.]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-06-29T21:54:21+00:00 2025-06-29T21:54:21+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7092#p7092
UCyborg wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 21:32...Some sort of physical activity might be beneficial...
I think so, too.]]>
UCyborg wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 21:32...Some sort of physical activity might be beneficial...
I think so, too.]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-06-30T00:19:49+00:00 2025-06-30T00:25:37+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7094#p7094
UCyborg wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 21:32...cannot escape from one's own body, I just cope in a way I'm able to...
I drank and used drugs for well over a decade trying to escape all to wind up 'full circle' and back where I started and been to rehab countless times and after the last one I've maintained sobriety. Can not go back to that or that would be my demise and that doesn't scare me beyond winding up in more pain or becoming a vegetable. I don't have the energy to come back this time which is why I'm SO SO SO careful nowadays. I'm still on too many pills and the doctor wants to add more and I refuse. To be honest, I'm just plain nuts. I just cope by laying in bed on some days and laying on the sofa 'waiting' for peace - sometimes that comes in sleep and sometimes not :(]]>
UCyborg wrote: 29 Jun 2025, 21:32...cannot escape from one's own body, I just cope in a way I'm able to...
I drank and used drugs for well over a decade trying to escape all to wind up 'full circle' and back where I started and been to rehab countless times and after the last one I've maintained sobriety. Can not go back to that or that would be my demise and that doesn't scare me beyond winding up in more pain or becoming a vegetable. I don't have the energy to come back this time which is why I'm SO SO SO careful nowadays. I'm still on too many pills and the doctor wants to add more and I refuse. To be honest, I'm just plain nuts. I just cope by laying in bed on some days and laying on the sofa 'waiting' for peace - sometimes that comes in sleep and sometimes not :(]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-06-30T00:23:10+00:00 2025-06-30T00:23:10+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7095#p7095 <![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg]]> 2025-07-01T21:36:47+00:00 2025-07-01T21:36:47+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7098#p7098
Two quotes that reasonate with me:
Max Payne wrote:Life knows two miseries; getting what you don't want and not getting what you want.
Max Payne wrote:You can't run from your past. You'll end up running in circles. Until you fall back down to the same hole you were trying to escape from, only the hole's grown deeper.
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Two quotes that reasonate with me:
Max Payne wrote:Life knows two miseries; getting what you don't want and not getting what you want.
Max Payne wrote:You can't run from your past. You'll end up running in circles. Until you fall back down to the same hole you were trying to escape from, only the hole's grown deeper.
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<![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-07-01T22:33:11+00:00 2025-07-01T22:33:11+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7099#p7099 ]]> ]]> <![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-03T10:23:07+00:00 2025-07-03T10:23:07+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7100#p7100 I recently learned of a very odd twist on reality.
I know "hippies" (ie, brain fried to mush because of their choices of "recreational" activities, I need not say more).
These "hippies" aren't exactly "vegetables", but they can NOT get through life without a "friend" helping them.
ie, a "friend" that can drive them to the store or take them out to a movie.

The Odd Twist On Reality - these aren't really "friends" helping out these "you did this to yourself" brain-fried-out folks.
These people are **PAID** to take them to the store, to spend time with them at the library, to take them out to a movie.
No offense, but the friends I've had over the years, and they are *FEW*, _NONE_ of them were *PAID* to hang out with me.]]>
I recently learned of a very odd twist on reality.
I know "hippies" (ie, brain fried to mush because of their choices of "recreational" activities, I need not say more).
These "hippies" aren't exactly "vegetables", but they can NOT get through life without a "friend" helping them.
ie, a "friend" that can drive them to the store or take them out to a movie.

The Odd Twist On Reality - these aren't really "friends" helping out these "you did this to yourself" brain-fried-out folks.
These people are **PAID** to take them to the store, to spend time with them at the library, to take them out to a movie.
No offense, but the friends I've had over the years, and they are *FEW*, _NONE_ of them were *PAID* to hang out with me.]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-03T22:49:53+00:00 2025-07-03T22:49:53+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7102#p7102
xperceniol_sal wrote: 03 Jul 2025, 22:23 I've been clean and sober for 8 years and counting.
Awesome! :D ]]>
xperceniol_sal wrote: 03 Jul 2025, 22:23 I've been clean and sober for 8 years and counting.
Awesome! :D ]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-07-03T23:49:14+00:00 2025-07-03T23:49:14+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7106#p7106
The-10-Pen wrote: 03 Jul 2025, 22:49
xperceniol_sal wrote: 03 Jul 2025, 22:23 I've been clean and sober for 8 years and counting.
Awesome! :D
Thank you for your support. :)]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 03 Jul 2025, 22:49
xperceniol_sal wrote: 03 Jul 2025, 22:23 I've been clean and sober for 8 years and counting.
Awesome! :D
Thank you for your support. :)]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by K4sum1]]> 2025-07-04T00:07:48+00:00 2025-07-04T00:07:48+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7107#p7107
The-10-Pen wrote: 03 Jul 2025, 10:23 Regarding "clean and sober" and "real friends".
I recently learned of a very odd twist on reality.
I know "hippies" (ie, brain fried to mush because of their choices of "recreational" activities, I need not say more).
These "hippies" aren't exactly "vegetables", but they can NOT get through life without a "friend" helping them.
ie, a "friend" that can drive them to the store or take them out to a movie.

The Odd Twist On Reality - these aren't really "friends" helping out these "you did this to yourself" brain-fried-out folks.
These people are **PAID** to take them to the store, to spend time with them at the library, to take them out to a movie.
No offense, but the friends I've had over the years, and they are *FEW*, _NONE_ of them were *PAID* to hang out with me.
Oh, so that's why I have no irl friends, I don't have the money for it.]]>
The-10-Pen wrote: 03 Jul 2025, 10:23 Regarding "clean and sober" and "real friends".
I recently learned of a very odd twist on reality.
I know "hippies" (ie, brain fried to mush because of their choices of "recreational" activities, I need not say more).
These "hippies" aren't exactly "vegetables", but they can NOT get through life without a "friend" helping them.
ie, a "friend" that can drive them to the store or take them out to a movie.

The Odd Twist On Reality - these aren't really "friends" helping out these "you did this to yourself" brain-fried-out folks.
These people are **PAID** to take them to the store, to spend time with them at the library, to take them out to a movie.
No offense, but the friends I've had over the years, and they are *FEW*, _NONE_ of them were *PAID* to hang out with me.
Oh, so that's why I have no irl friends, I don't have the money for it.]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-07-04T00:18:30+00:00 2025-07-04T00:18:30+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7108#p7108
K4sum1 wrote: 04 Jul 2025, 00:07
The-10-Pen wrote: 03 Jul 2025, 10:23 Regarding "clean and sober" and "real friends".
I recently learned of a very odd twist on reality.
I know "hippies" (ie, brain fried to mush because of their choices of "recreational" activities, I need not say more).
These "hippies" aren't exactly "vegetables", but they can NOT get through life without a "friend" helping them.
ie, a "friend" that can drive them to the store or take them out to a movie.

The Odd Twist On Reality - these aren't really "friends" helping out these "you did this to yourself" brain-fried-out folks.
These people are **PAID** to take them to the store, to spend time with them at the library, to take them out to a movie.
No offense, but the friends I've had over the years, and they are *FEW*, _NONE_ of them were *PAID* to hang out with me.
Oh, so that's why I have no irl friends, I don't have the money for it.
I think friendship would cost us money we don't have to give and I would never lend money anymore what little I've left for the month. I'm in the same boat here.]]>
K4sum1 wrote: 04 Jul 2025, 00:07
The-10-Pen wrote: 03 Jul 2025, 10:23 Regarding "clean and sober" and "real friends".
I recently learned of a very odd twist on reality.
I know "hippies" (ie, brain fried to mush because of their choices of "recreational" activities, I need not say more).
These "hippies" aren't exactly "vegetables", but they can NOT get through life without a "friend" helping them.
ie, a "friend" that can drive them to the store or take them out to a movie.

The Odd Twist On Reality - these aren't really "friends" helping out these "you did this to yourself" brain-fried-out folks.
These people are **PAID** to take them to the store, to spend time with them at the library, to take them out to a movie.
No offense, but the friends I've had over the years, and they are *FEW*, _NONE_ of them were *PAID* to hang out with me.
Oh, so that's why I have no irl friends, I don't have the money for it.
I think friendship would cost us money we don't have to give and I would never lend money anymore what little I've left for the month. I'm in the same boat here.]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-07-04T02:16:51+00:00 2025-07-04T02:16:51+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7109#p7109 <![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by K4sum1]]> 2025-07-04T07:34:33+00:00 2025-07-04T07:34:33+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7110#p7110 <![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen]]> 2025-07-04T09:47:38+00:00 2025-07-04T09:47:38+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7111#p7111
K4sum1 wrote: 04 Jul 2025, 00:07 Oh, so that's why I have no irl friends, I don't have the money for it.
LOL

Actually, what I meant, is that there are COMPANIES out there that PAY people to basically be a "friend" to folks that are kind of a 'strain on society'.
Kind of keep that 'strain in check'.
Kind of doing it out of the "kindness of their heart".
et cetera

What one company deems as "special needs" my vary from company to company.

Just trust me on this, none of us like to "judge" others in society, but when you see somebody in public that, let's say, looks like they are 40yrs old but act like they are 6yrs old, the real adult standing next to that person and being "patient and kind" may very likely be PAID to be standing next to that "6yr old".]]>
K4sum1 wrote: 04 Jul 2025, 00:07 Oh, so that's why I have no irl friends, I don't have the money for it.
LOL

Actually, what I meant, is that there are COMPANIES out there that PAY people to basically be a "friend" to folks that are kind of a 'strain on society'.
Kind of keep that 'strain in check'.
Kind of doing it out of the "kindness of their heart".
et cetera

What one company deems as "special needs" my vary from company to company.

Just trust me on this, none of us like to "judge" others in society, but when you see somebody in public that, let's say, looks like they are 40yrs old but act like they are 6yrs old, the real adult standing next to that person and being "patient and kind" may very likely be PAID to be standing next to that "6yr old".]]>
<![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg]]> 2025-07-13T12:14:17+00:00 2025-07-13T12:14:17+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7156#p7156 <![CDATA[General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal]]> 2025-07-25T22:55:39+00:00 2025-07-25T22:55:39+00:00 https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=609&p=7194#p7194
UCyborg wrote: 13 Jul 2025, 12:14 I don't see how you can have friends with the way people are, both IRL and online.
I don't either, UCyborg :?: :!: :?: :!:]]>
UCyborg wrote: 13 Jul 2025, 12:14 I don't see how you can have friends with the way people are, both IRL and online.
I don't either, UCyborg :?: :!: :?: :!:]]>