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Research Network :: Porting xl-converter to Windows XP (Porting modern PyInstaller to XP) :: Author K4sum1

2025-05-16T21:41:17+00:00

So this is one of the projects I was busy working on for a while and I'm basically at the finish line, but I've fallen and I can't get up.
https://github.com/K4sum1/xl-converter/tree/stable

Basically theoretically every part should work on Windows XP, modded Python 3.8, my modded QT 5.16/PySide2, modded/older versions of dependencies required for the program, etc. However the last roadblock is PyInstaller and I'm not sure how to fix it.

My first attempt was just to take the version the program uses (6.1) and fix missing functions, so I did that and this version can be found here below.
https://github.com/K4sum1/pyinstaller/commits/6.1.0/

However building and running the program I get an Unhandled exception in script window that is just blank. There's no text or anything.

From what I can understand this seems to be PyInstaller related, and everything else I know runs on XP. (Well outside of the PySide2 build, but seeing as the QT5.16 it's based off of runs on XP idk why Python bindings for it wouldn't)

I did some research and on the MSFN thread where I got the modded Python 3.8 for XP, a user mentioned using PyInstaller 4.10, so I tried that, but I can't get it working here.
https://msfn.org/board/topic/183741-python-3813-for-windows-xp-sp3/page/5/#comment-1279582

So I don't really know what to do from here. I don't get any log, running it in cmd doesn't give me any output. I don't know how to get older versions working or what to do.

The only thing I can think of is if there is a basic PyInstaller test program I could make and use to test PyInstaller on XP easily before working on getting xl-converter to run. However I don't know where to find something like this, or if it even exists.

Please help, I don't know what to do here.

Research Network :: Porting modern versions of QT to Windows XP :: Author K4sum1

2025-05-16T22:10:59+00:00

Somewhat recently, I've made a version of QT 5.16.15 compatible with Windows XP. It works for the most part, however there are some slight issues that I don't know how to fix yet.
https://github.com/K4sum1/qt5-xp

It appears to work pretty well in the limited testing I've been able to do with it. The issues aren't that major, maybe outside of this below. (please help fix)
https://github.com/K4sum1/qt5-xp/issues/7

The reason this is here under Research Network is because the issues, and maybe the possibility of a QT6 for XP. I haven't looked into QT6, but I believe if I were to try, I'd likely be able to do it. However the current issues, I'm not sure how to fix, and that's more what I want the community to help with. Although having a community QT6 for XP would also be nice, as I'm not sure if I'd ever get around to making it if I can just backport to QT5.
https://github.com/K4sum1/qt5-xp/issues

Research Network :: Looking for a fix to the VMware Workstation 16+ Vista guest DWM RAM leak :: Author K4sum1

2025-05-27T09:34:46+00:00

When using Windows Vista in VMware Workstation 16+ or 16+ compatibility mode, dwm.exe starts leaking RAM until it eats up all the system RAM and crashes and the OS reverts to the basic theme.

Setting the VM to 15 compatibility or lower fixes the issue, however this means DirectX 11 can't be used inside Vista guests which makes testing programs that make use of DirectX 11 on Vista harder, requiring real hardware to test them.

What I'd like is some sort of fix for the RAM leak that still lets me use DirectX 11 on a Vista guest.

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-24T06:57:38+00:00

By the way, I'm still not sure what causes the issue, however I just have not had the issue occur with the Windows 7 Updated v5 ISO or the, eventually will come to release, Windows 8.1 Updated v2 ISO.

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-05-24T21:43:35+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2024, 10:12...I currently use Comodo Firewall 8.4.0.5165...

I've been searching for a working link to the program and I can't find it; do you know where I can get this? Thank you in advance.

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-25T05:05:31+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑24 May 2025, 21:43
K4sum1 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2024, 10:12...I currently use Comodo Firewall 8.4.0.5165...
I've been searching for a working link to the program and I can't find it; do you know where I can get this? Thank you in advance.

https://archive.org/details/various-comodo-cis-cfw-builds-with-server-mods

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-05-25T08:24:51+00:00

Comodo Personal Firewall 2.4.18.184

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-26T20:20:42+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2024, 00:21 Fort Firewall

Does anyone know if Fort Firewall is working fine on Windows 8.1 x64 ?
The x64 version has "Windows10" in its file name: FortFirewall-3.1x.x-windows10-x86_64.exe, so I wonder

K4sum1 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2024, 10:12 I currently use Comodo Firewall 8.4.0.5165.

Is Comodo Firewall better than Fort Firewall ?
Comodo CFW 8.4.0.5165 installer is about 169 MB while Fort Firewall is about 5 MB.
Are these 164 MB more worth it ?

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-05-26T23:38:40+00:00

For starters, "Fort Firewall" is not technically self-contained.
It requires Microsoft's embedded firewall / base filtering engine to run side-dy-side with Fort Firewall.
I have not ran "Fort Firewall", but just reading the GitHub page tells me it is NOT FOR ME.
May work for you, will not work for me.

Secondly, and I can only speak towards Comodo 2.4.18.184 [File Size: 7.58 MB], Fort Firewall lacks "parent-based" rules.
ie, with Comodo 2.4.18.184, I can allow Chrome or Firefox or you-name-it to use one set of rules when launched from a desktop shortcut, a totally different set of rules if launched from Word, a different set of rules if launched from Excel, a different set of rules if launched from Classic Shell, a different set of rules if launched from a pdf link, and then still block completely if a shareware "installation" launches a browser window to phone-home during said installation.

Although, truth be told, I do not use firewall software or antivirus software. None.
I run *everything* from inside VirtualBox VM's. *EVERYTHING*
Anything happens, I just **DELETE** the VM *clone* and reclone a new working VM.
The "base" VM is never touched post-install. It's only used to clone new clones.

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-27T04:13:19+00:00

That's interesting. I don't think modern Comodo has anything like that. I just manage rules per application no matter how they get launched.

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-05-27T11:08:21+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑27 May 2025, 04:13 That's interesting. I don't think modern Comodo has anything like that. I just manage rules per application no matter how they get launched.

If that works for you, that's totally up to your usage.
I personally disprove of that attack method.
It "enables" programs to "fake" their internet connections by "pretending" to be something/anything that users just "blindly trust".

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-27T11:34:08+00:00

Modern Comodo does it per path. I guess an attack method would be to figure out a program that can communicate and swap out it's .exe file, but I figure that would require enough access that you'd be already fucked no matter what.

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-27T13:09:46+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 23:38 For starters, "Fort Firewall" is not technically self-contained.
It requires Microsoft's embedded firewall / base filtering engine to run side-dy-side with Fort Firewall.

That's not what I've found in the user guide:

Do I need to / Should I have - Windows Firewall (Microsoft Defender Firewall) enabled and running together with Fort Firewall?

You do not need to keep the Windows Firewall (WF) enabled and running together with Fort Firewall.
Fort Firewall can not register in Security Center, so you will get a warning with disabled WF.
If you disable the WF, then consider the Options: "Self Protection" flags.
Also you do not need to disable the Windows Firewall - Fort Firewall will work fine with it.
But if you block some program in WF, then it'll be blocked anyway, even if you allow it in Fort Firewall.

Source: https://github.com/tnodir/fort/wiki/FAQ#do-i-need-to--should-i-have---windows-firewall-microsoft-defender-firewall-enabled-and-running-together-with-fort-firewall

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 23:38 I can only speak towards Comodo 2.4.18.184 [File Size: 7.58 MB], Fort Firewall lacks "parent-based" rules.

On the Github page of Front Firewall there is this comparison with other firewalls:
https://github.com/tnodir/fort/wiki/Functionality-overview#comparison-with-other-firewalls

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-05-27T13:34:03+00:00

Look again.
While it may not require Windows Firewall, it does require the BASE FILTERING ENGINE which is the core compoent / dependency of Windows Firewall.
Something that I personally DISABLE on my systems.
It's up to you if you want it running on yours.

Though my main point was that you cannot say "this many megabytes" for this-app versus "this many megabytes" for that-app IF YOU DON'T ALSO ADD THE DEPENDENCIES (which in the case of Fort Firewall is the RAM/CPU/megabytes of the base filtering engine running in the background).

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-27T13:47:42+00:00

I just wonder what Comodo Firewall brings with these 164 MB more because I'm quite sure there is no such large filtering engine in Comodo when some other firewalls can do it with a size between 1 and 5 MB

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-05-27T14:03:50+00:00

Agreed.
I didn't get around to looking over the weekend.
Generally speaking, it would NOT SURPRISE ME that the large install file size is NOTHING MORE than having a "hundred" different languages 'included'.

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-27T16:40:33+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑27 May 2025, 14:03 it would NOT SURPRISE ME that the large install file size is NOTHING MORE than having a "hundred" different languages 'included'.

Yep but that can't be that large. For instance, VLC which is a program with tons of options has a language folder of 104 languages for less than 40 MB.
164 MB is 4 times that.

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-05-27T16:58:34+00:00

I was going to ask if the install file in question INCLUDES apps that are not strictly just a firewall.
Appears it does not.

But speaking solely for myself, I would trust Comodo over "something found on GitHub".
But that's just me.

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-31T12:52:08+00:00

I know modern Comodo installers, even if you go for the x64 or x86 release include both x64 and x86 installers. The server mod .msi files are a bit more accurate size wise here.

The translations are 8MB.

Research Network :: Decompressor for Petite packed executables? :: Author UCyborg

2025-05-31T11:41:43+00:00

Asking just in case I missed something, I looked for one, but didn't find any.

The compressor is available at https://www.un4seen.com/petite/, but nothing that would reverse it and output normal non-compressed EXE/DLL with import table intact.

This subject seems fitting for this subforum.

Research Network :: Decompressor for Petite packed executables? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-06-03T20:39:01+00:00

Is this what you are looking for?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7gnmQGOnTU

Research Network :: Decompressor for Petite packed executables? :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-06-04T20:10:16+00:00

I followed the similar procedure, but the final result lacks relocation table, that would need some intelligence to reconstruct. I think I saw a program in source code form only on GitHub that may be able to reconstruct it if you give it dump of 2 identical DLLs loaded at different addresses and specifically formatted text file with information about imported functions, but didn't dig into it any further.

Research Network :: Decompressor for Petite packed executables? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-06-04T20:34:01+00:00

Why not just use regular ol' UPX?
What does Petite offer over UPX?

Research Network :: Decompressor for Petite packed executables? :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-06-05T19:12:48+00:00

I find compression of executables pointless. Why use it unless you're a scumbag trying to hide something? In case of DLLs, it also prevents effective sharing of code between processes, each gets its own copy instead of it being shared.

BASS library (and its add-ons) seems to come only in binary compressed form. I hoped I could easily modify it to not call timeBeginPeriod(1) needlessly. I noticed with AIMP and VirtualMIDISynth, minimum resolution of periodic timers is forced to 1 ms even when nothing plays.

General Software & Hardware :: Software compatibility lists for Windows XP, Vista and 7 :: Reply by HiXar

2025-05-17T01:52:37+00:00

Anyone else having issues with sytes.net/?

General Software & Hardware :: Software compatibility lists for Windows XP, Vista and 7 :: Reply by blueclouds8666

2025-05-17T11:06:12+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 10:09 BlenderCompat, Windows 7 support for Blender 3.x and newer:

https://github.com/nalexandru/BlenderCompat

already included as a community project, linked at the bottom of the program page. the main list is a summary and only includes officially distributed and officially compiled versions, which are guaranteed to be safe and reliable.

HiXar wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 01:52 Anyone else having issues with sytes.net/?

now fixed and working again.

General Software & Hardware :: Mesa3D drivers :: Author luk3Z

2025-05-18T11:54:59+00:00

Mesa3D drivers are open-source graphics drivers that implement APIs like OpenGL, Vulkan, OpenCL, and Direct3D (via Gallium) on Windows, Linux and other platforms. If your system has no proper GPU drivers installed or the hardware is unsupported, Mesa can provide software-based OpenGL rendering (via llvmpipe or softpipe).

It has nothing to do with Black Mesa (this is not Black Mesa).
https://github.com/pal1000/mesa-dist-win

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Author K4sum1

2025-05-16T20:14:27+00:00

Edit: So this kept going, so it gets it's own topic now

This entire post is pretty off topic, but idk where else to post it so.

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 15:19 I keep my XP very VERY slim but I also don't do much and some games lose me because my attention span sucks nowadays. Some days all I can play is my lame racing car games.

We haven't chatted in a while - how are you doing? I sort of miss you but I realize you are VERY busy. I just don't give up on my friends easily and you are one of them

I like to keep my installs slim, but then I get lazy and eventually reinstall anyways so idk. I don't run Steam at startup so it might as well not be there for like 95+% of my computer usage.

I'm doing good, I'm just quite busy, and don't really look here outside of skimming new post notifications. I also find that I keep myself too busy to really think, anywhere from working on r3dfox and such to gaming. Yesterday and today I've been doing a bunch of research into audio formats and stuff, more specifically Ogg Vorbis.

If you're curious:
https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,54252.0.html
https://github.com/OptiVorbis/OptiVorbis/issues/134

I'm also trying to figure out what the transparency threshold is for Vobis, and if aoTuV is still better than libvorbis today. All the information about this is nearly 20 years old. libvorbis gives me better looking spectrals than aoTuV, but idk if that is necessarily better, and outside of ABX idk how to determine that. However I can't tell the difference between a 128kbps MP3 and a FLAC, so I don't have any hope of being able to ABX this myself so I have no idea what to do. Will probably be another thing I abandon after a day or so idk.

General Software & Hardware :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by OCCiera

2025-05-16T20:47:51+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 20:14 This entire post is pretty off topic, but idk where else to post it so.

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 15:19 I keep my XP very VERY slim but I also don't do much and some games lose me because my attention span sucks nowadays. Some days all I can play is my lame racing car games.

We haven't chatted in a while - how are you doing? I sort of miss you but I realize you are VERY busy. I just don't give up on my friends easily and you are one of them
I like to keep my installs slim, but then I get lazy and eventually reinstall anyways so idk. I don't run Steam at startup so it might as well not be there for like 95+% of my computer usage.

I'm doing good, I'm just quite busy, and don't really look here outside of skimming new post notifications. I also find that I keep myself too busy to really think, anywhere from working on r3dfox and such to gaming. Yesterday and today I've been doing a bunch of research into audio formats and stuff, more specifically Ogg Vorbis.

If you're curious:
https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,54252.0.html
https://github.com/OptiVorbis/OptiVorbis/issues/134

I'm also trying to figure out what the transparency threshold is for Vobis, and if aoTuV is still better than libvorbis today. All the information about this is nearly 20 years old. libvorbis gives me better looking spectrals than aoTuV, but idk if that is necessarily better, and outside of ABX idk how to determine that. However I can't tell the difference between a 128kbps MP3 and a FLAC, so I don't have any hope of being able to ABX this myself so I have no idea what to do. Will probably be another thing I abandon after a day or so idk.

Why not just use lossless files and a battery bank? I use an Axim x51V as a music player, I keep all my music in WMA lossless and just bring some spare batteries for it, since I have the luxury of a battery hatch.

General Software & Hardware :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T21:01:14+00:00

Oh, my collection is mostly lossless FLAC with MP3 for the songs that I can't find any lossless version of. I want to have a Vorbis collection for more space constrained devices and reduce transfer times over slow USB 2.0 connection.

The tests are because I'm curious and also it's cool idk. I've found the battery is good enough for even my longest trips with my current collection. I bring a battery bank if I feel I need one, but it's nice to not have to use it. It seems like with this usage perhaps storage uses more power, so maybe a Vorbis collection is best all around for this. I'm also not going to be able to notice the difference especially if I use a phone with Bluetooth, so yeah, but I want to aim for general transparency anyways as it seems achievable. Be it 128k/q4, 160k/q5 or 192k/q6.

General Software & Hardware :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-17T13:31:57+00:00

OCCiera wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 20:47 I keep all my music in WMA lossless

Why WMAL ? You'd better use FLAC for best compatibilty between various devices

K4sum1 wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 21:01 I want to have a Vorbis collection for more space constrained devices
It seems like with this usage perhaps storage uses more power, so maybe a Vorbis collection is best all around for this.
I want to aim for general transparency anyways
Be it 128k/q4, 160k/q5 or 192k/q6.

I also use Vorbis q5, best quality to my ears with the best compatibilty. MP3 needs 192 kbps to achieve the same quality but it can be played on any device made in the past 25 years, if not more.
Information and discussion about battery usage between various formats:
https://hydrogenaudio.org/index.php/topic,124857.0.html

General Software & Hardware :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-17T14:11:45+00:00

So I split this into it's own topic now

Duke wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 13:31
K4sum1 wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 21:01 I want to have a Vorbis collection for more space constrained devices
It seems like with this usage perhaps storage uses more power, so maybe a Vorbis collection is best all around for this.
I want to aim for general transparency anyways
Be it 128k/q4, 160k/q5 or 192k/q6.
I also use Vorbis q5, best quality to my ears with the best compatibilty. MP3 needs 192 kbps to achieve the same quality but it can be played on any device made in the past 25 years, if not more.
Information and discussion about battery usage between various formats:
https://hydrogenaudio.org/index.php/topic,124857.0.html

Yeah. Are you using aoTuV or libvorbis for these files? Also I wonder if you'd be willing to test them if you haven't tried yet. I'd be curious to see if aoTuV is still better.

For the battery usage, I was referring to the Rockbox forum link in the first post, specifically this.

speachy wrote: Yes, 128K vorbis is more expensive to decode than 320K mp3, but that 320K mp3 will wake up the storage device nearly 3x as often. With SSD swaps that's less expensive than before, but even when only reading a uSD card will be in the 100-200mW range. By comparison, one of the ipod5g's CPU cores running at max speed only uses about 20mW in comparison.

You can also see the power consumption tests I ran here.
https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,54252.msg256140.html#msg256140
https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,54252.msg256161.html#msg256161

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-17T15:50:17+00:00

I did some more research. I found a game that uses 128k Vorbis and the spectrals look really good. However the file seems to have been made by "Sony Ogg Vorbis 1.0 Final" which I would assume to mean some sort of audio software, maybe Sound Forge idk. Could be worth looking into. I also noticed the file was 128 ABR instead of the VBR I've been looking at here. I can confirm that a 128 ABR Vorbis looks better in a spectral, but it is also a bit bigger so yeah. However I noticed aoTuV ABR is functionally identical to aoTuV VBR, at least for 128k. I got two equally sized files with spectrals that match, although the hash is different.

I looked a bit closer and the spectrals for libvobris look a bit harsher or intense in the bits with more sound than the original or aoTuV. I assume this could be noise or artifacts and perhaps why aoTuV is considered to be better when the more extreme shelf looks worse at first when looking at a spectral.

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-17T22:11:46+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 14:11 For the battery usage, I was referring to the Rockbox forum link in the first post, specifically this.

Sorry, I missed the Rockbox bit.

K4sum1 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 14:11 Are you using aoTuV or libvorbis for these files?
I'd be curious to see if aoTuV is still better.

I'm not using aoTuV anymore because it's supposed to be optimized for low bitrates below -q5 and as I said I'm using q5.
For sure files are smaller with low bitrates but storage is cheap nowadays so I don't care about file size and I prefer quality.

K4sum1 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 15:50 However I noticed aoTuV ABR is functionally identical to aoTuV VBR, at least for 128k. I got two equally sized files with spectrals that match, although the hash is different.

See above, aoTuV is for low bitrates. So at q5 or above there shouldn't be any (big) difference.

K4sum1 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 15:50 a 128 ABR Vorbis looks better in a spectral, but it is also a bit bigger so yeah.

K4sum1 wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 15:50 I looked a bit closer and the spectrals for libvobris look a bit harsher or intense in the bits with more sound than the original or aoTuV.

Don't look at audio but listen to it

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-18T14:50:13+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 22:11 I'm not using aoTuV anymore because it's supposed to be optimized for low bitrates below -q5 and as I said I'm using q5.
For sure files are smaller with low bitrates but storage is cheap nowadays so I don't care about file size and I prefer quality.

Duke wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 22:11 See above, aoTuV is for low bitrates. So at q5 or above there shouldn't be any (big) difference.

Well yeah, but my idea was for you to test again if you could. Even if on paper aoTuV is supposed to be for below -q5, it would be interesting to have it tested.

Also for my case I want the Ogg version for devices with less storage and listening situations where I am less likely to hear any difference. So I'd like to know better where the transparency threshold is, and not have to encode everything again if I get this wrong. (I want to lean lower but be cautious which makes me want to lean more towards q4/128-q5/160 but idk what exactly to do yet)

Duke wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 22:11 Don't look at audio but listen to it

Ok, but the problem is last time I tried, I was unable to tell the difference between a 128k MP3 and FLAC on afaik what is the "best" music device I have with afaik what is the "best" headphones I had. So maybe I shouldn't worry about this and just go q4, but idk I just want to know with modern versions of the encoders.

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-05-18T15:16:59+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:50...what is the "best" headphones I had. So maybe I shouldn't worry about this and just go q4, but idk I just want to know with modern versions of the encoders...

Yeah, LOVE my Emerson headphones and it (they) are so clear and crisp at the same time and they were a gift so I don't know what they paid but they usually only run about $40 (I think). Also; I have a decent set of JLab Studio Wired On-Ear Headphones.

However the JLab headphones are very sharp and deep bass and sometimes I (actually) DO want some mid-range.

Get rid of any el cheapo headphones because we appreciate quality music too much; and I need it for my meditation each day.

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-18T15:24:42+00:00

Yeah, I haven't used any "bad" headphones for probably over a decade now. When I said "best" there, I meant conventionally considered good by others online. (AKG K371BT (wired because I know BT can mess with quality) is what I used to be exact) I like my current headphones (E600Pro) more than any other even though they're the cheapest ones I've bought and I'm not sure any audiophile would call them good. I used to be in audiophile spaces, and I kinda went against their advice going for this and I'm glad I did.

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-18T18:49:49+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:50 my idea was for you to test again if you could. Even if on paper aoTuV is supposed to be for below -q5, it would be interesting to have it tested.

What do you want me to test ? The quality of your encodings ?
If so then I need you to give me the source file and the encoded file so I can compare.

K4sum1 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 14:50 me want to lean more towards q4/128-q5/160 but idk what exactly to do yet
maybe I shouldn't worry about this and just go q4, but idk I just want to know with modern versions of the encoders.

q4 should be good enough for most people, especially if you listen to music in your car or with small desktop speakers.
But q5 is better! Read more transparent. Or use q4.5

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-18T20:24:44+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 18:49 What do you want me to test ? The quality of your encodings ?
If so then I need you to give me the source file and the encoded file so I can compare.

I more so meant for you to do it yourself, with music you're more familiar with. If you want me to do it, or me to convert the files for you, I could if you want.

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-05-18T21:18:00+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 15:24 Yeah, I haven't used any "bad" headphones for probably over a decade now. When I said "best" there, I meant conventionally considered good by others online. (AKG K371BT (wired because I know BT can mess with quality) is what I used to be exact) I like my current headphones (E600Pro) more than any other even though they're the cheapest ones I've bought and I'm not sure any audiophile would call them good. I used to be in audiophile spaces, and I kinda went against their advice going for this and I'm glad I did.

Bwahahaha ....

Your low end headphones are my high end. Now I tell ya, I do have super cheap headphones somewhere in the closet (several actually) that cost around $8 to 10 bucks LMAO Wonderful if all you want is mid and treble, but light on the ears, I guess.

I have an AKG microphone (boom) for drums even though I no longer play the drums - I keep it for keepsake as it was also a gift.

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by OCCiera

2025-05-18T23:06:09+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑17 May 2025, 13:31
OCCiera wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 20:47 I keep all my music in WMA lossless
Why WMAL ? You'd better use FLAC for best compatibilty between various devices

I only use Windows devices, as I said previously, my media player is a Windows Mobile device, so it's the best option for that (I don't think it supports anything other than MP3 WAV and WMA regardless). Most of my files are stored in Windows Media Foundation formats for a few reasons.

.WDP
-Is lossless like PNG
-Supports tagging like JPEG
-Supports HDR
-Extremely well integrated into Windows' software stack

.WMA (lossless)
-dang'ol Windows CE devices mahn
-Better file sizes than FLAC (marginally)
-Also extremely well integrated into Windows' software stack

I haven't really looked into .WMV, because .MP4 is Gud Euff,^TM and I haven't really had a need to do any mass conversion like I have the other two.

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-19T02:27:57+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑18 May 2025, 20:24 I more so meant for you to do it yourself, with music you're more familiar with.

I did it years ago, the reason why I've chosen to use q5 which is, IMHO, the best balance between file size and quality.

General Software & Hardware :: Audio file format and compression discussion :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-24T06:27:38+00:00

I found this, and found it interesting.

https://www.rarewares.org/rrw/eaqual.php

Sample size of 1, but I compressed a song with both aoTuV and libvorbis, and it preferred the aoTuV file for q4, q4.5, q5, q5.5, q6, q6.5, q7, q7.5, and it was equal for q8.

128 Opus looks to score on par with a q5 aoTuV or q5.5 libvorbis conversion. Maybe Opus score could be better if had a native 44.1 mode idk. Opus also leads for all tests as expected.

Raw data if you're curious:

► Show Spoiler

The size used by the files:

► Show Spoiler

General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by Osaka

2025-05-25T21:05:50+00:00

Preach! I had two accounts that I was locked out of tied to two different phone numbers I no longer have (I've been in this game for a long time, hehe), and Google is willing to do NOTHING to help their userbase with this issue. I tried Google Community Forums upon their recommendation which just consists of non-employee users just telling you to eat it and die basically. Gee, thanks a lot.

They are *sort of* contactable via Twitter/X only, and even then it's extremely excruciatingly difficult to get the attention of a human being.

Since then, I've gotten one of my accounts back, no thanks to them. I just attempted it enough times to where I gained access to an email verification loophole and even then I had to wait 30 days to get a password reset link. I waited and I held that one down.

Unfortunately, the other account does not have the email route (that barely works anyway) so I'm still working on getting that one back.

If you find any headway with this in the future, please let me know, K4sum1. This is oppressively ridiculous.

And don't even get me started on Facebook/Meta. Ugh!

General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-26T08:49:41+00:00

All my gmail accounts just forward to my main now so I don't really use them for much. I just have my one "main" account which is just used for YT and MicroG, and like 5 other accounts that I never use. If i need to log in, sometimes they do email or phone idk. Just annoying in my case.

General Software & Hardware :: Why does Google do this? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-05-27T22:45:15+00:00

Google is evil!

General Software & Hardware :: Cannot Install to SSD - Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Author Osaka

2025-05-25T20:56:25+00:00

After a lot of trouble trying to install a native ISO of Windows Vista to apply the Extended Kernel, I was relieved to find a nicely-packaged ISO with everything pre-installed on this board: https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?t=402

With the native Vista ISO, I could not move forward with the installation because the mouse and keyboard would not function.

With this ISO, I can use keyboard and mouse, however I get this message when I try to install the OS on my main SSD.

https://i.ibb.co/Pv82dN49/20250525-121726.jpg

I have tried seeking out guidance or independent solutions already. I formatted the SSD multiple times, including via Ubuntu - I heard that sometimes solves this issue.

And of course, the biggest elephant in the room being that the disk is not connected through USB or Firewire. So, it begs the question. How do I get this installation image to properly recognize my SSD?

Any help would be greatly appreciated and much obliged. ^_^

General Software & Hardware :: Cannot Install to SSD - Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-26T08:46:01+00:00

I wonder if Vista just doesn't know what to do with a 4TB drive and throws that error. I'd try a smaller drive.

General Software & Hardware :: Cannot Install to SSD - Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by Osaka

2025-05-26T18:53:11+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑26 May 2025, 08:46 I wonder if Vista just doesn't know what to do with a 4TB drive and throws that error. I'd try a smaller drive.

This is a good point. That is a distinct possibility. The only problem is, I have a 1TB SSD also installed on this computer, and it's not even detected by the installer. So, that really makes me scratch my head. Because what do I need to do to solve this quandry?

However, do you think a solution such as this might work? Before I attempt something more drastic and compromising.

General Software & Hardware :: Cannot Install to SSD - Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-27T04:33:50+00:00

Is this 1TB SSD a M.2 or NVMe SSD?

General Software & Hardware :: Cannot Install to SSD - Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by Osaka

2025-05-28T05:54:14+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑27 May 2025, 04:33 Is this 1TB SSD a M.2 or NVMe SSD?

Both are M.2 SSDs: https://i.ibb.co/XkScyBnq/20250528-013154.jpg

After trying this between 2 different computers, I'm at my wits' end with this and I'm also hearing that the Vista Extended Kernel is functionally flawed anyway. And the security risks may not be worth it.

Having said this, I'm not giving up on the concept. I don't think it's too much to ask to have a version of Windows that looks and feels like XP, Vista, or 7 as well as has simple user settings that allows for freedom of choice, and of course, anything from Windows 8-onward do not have any of these things. That would serve very well, at least until we're free from the chains of Windows if a superior operating system is ever developed in the future.

For what it's worth, I did try something called Windows Umbrella, which was essentially Windows 10 that allowed for the interfaces of Vista or 7, based on the user's choosing and eliminated a lot of the bloatware and other nonsense which is a step in the right direction, but using it would trigger a lot of Critical Errors that would made the computer Logoff and that's no good either.

General Software & Hardware :: Cannot Install to SSD - Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-28T06:05:54+00:00

The 7 Updated v5 here should just work.

General Software & Hardware :: Affinity software support for win7 question :: Author Cyaco

2025-06-01T07:29:55+00:00

Hello,
Anyone have any dll's or mods to get Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2, Affinity Publisher 2 running on windows 7?
Currently running it just crashes it.

General Software & Hardware :: Email clients? :: Reply by Niko

2025-06-06T08:27:32+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2024, 17:10 Have something in the works. Currently shelved as I have work to do on r3dfox though.

eclipse mail running in bochs no sse2 ia-32 only pentium server 2003.png

How’s the work with eclipse mail? Would be curious to try it!

General Software & Hardware :: Email clients? :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-06-07T08:10:39+00:00

Oh I released a build of it a while back, but I need to update it sometime. Been too busy on r3dfox again lol.

https://eclipse.cx/projects/email

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-18T11:56:16+00:00

Firefox 115.23.1 ESR is available with critical security fixes:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.23.1esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.23.1/releasenotes/

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-27T19:05:07+00:00

Firefox 115.24 ESR is out:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.24.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.24.0/releasenotes/

Browsers :: Open source web browsers for older Windows versions :: Reply by kast_winvistauser

2025-06-07T16:18:54+00:00

Mypal 68 is working for 2k with bwk extended kernel too if u spoof os version to xp, so it can get category "2000+" or kinda like that

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-06-04T20:33:33+00:00

Mostly getting by with almost official Pale Moon at home (SSE2 build compiled by Nuck-TH) and official build at work. Switched to it after some time after Basilisk was abandoned by MCP, that was before it was picked up by new dev. Previously, it was Firefox until version 51 became unusable. 51 because I didn't realize at the time 52.9 ESR still had full NPAPI support.

Google's been a menace again, can't use Drive with Pale Moon anymore and number of videos don't work through Project VORAPIS (YouTube), so stuck with messy slow enlarged Polymer interface or whatever they call it these days.

And Cloudflare treats me like a criminal with frequent number of browser checks.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by Niko

2025-06-05T07:43:54+00:00

UCyborg wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 20:33 Mostly getting by with almost official Pale Moon at home (SSE2 build compiled by Nuck-TH) and official build at work. Switched to it after some time after Basilisk was abandoned by MCP, that was before it was picked up by new dev. Previously, it was Firefox until version 51 became unusable. 51 because I didn't realize at the time 52.9 ESR still had full NPAPI support.

Google's been a menace again, can't use Drive with Pale Moon anymore and number of videos don't work through Project VORAPIS (YouTube), so stuck with messy slow enlarged Polymer interface or whatever they call it these days.

And Cloudflare treats me like a criminal with frequent number of browser checks.

Cloudflare treats everyone with Tor and a VPN as a criminal sadly. As for google shit like drive I stoped using it YouTube is only a issue but thanks for letting me know. Still tempted to use it as a daily driver.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-06-05T08:53:07+00:00

Been using Pale Moon as my daily driver for many months now and it works great! Best browser I've ever used actually. All the chromium stuff is pretty much impossible to customise, and Firefox just always felt off. Pale Moon has customisation options for everything you could want, and if it doesn't, you can write extensions to do it, and the extensions can actually do cool stuff (unlike on chromium and firefox quantum)

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-06-05T19:39:13+00:00

Even what can still be customized in Firefox, CSS and userchrome scripts break constantly. I don't feel like having to update them all the time. Old stuff (at least what I use) for customizing 'ol Firefox / Pale Moon interface tends to just work with minimal modifications at most.

It'd be cool if there were more tinkerers, some areas that extensions tackle aren't covered as well as when Firefox was still popular and didn't use web extensions.

Firefox is also impossible to compile form source on older humbler machines as the requirements are just nuts. I could have Ablaze Floorp at home as backup, that's closer out-of-the box to my liking, but doesn't work on CPUs without SSE 4.1 and no one is interested in compiling build without that requirement. Though font rendering is still bothersome...it ignores ClearType parameters in Windows.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-06-05T19:49:30+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2024, 23:27 I may or may not be trying cursed shit with Pale Moon.

If that's considered "cursed", have you seen SubWebView?

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-06-05T23:29:51+00:00

Pale Moon was my daily driver up until they stopped supporting XP then I turned to new moon. Now I use Hydra and Lun3r along with Mypal68. I keep Arctic Foxie 360 Chrome when absolutely needed. Supermium is too much for my systems to handle.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by Niko

2025-06-06T08:24:40+00:00

Well all that stuff is good to know might install it later today on my Fedora install since I only really used pale moon on Windows. Does anyone know a good Adblock extension for it? The last time I used it on Windows 7 I couldn’t find a good working one.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-06T19:56:06+00:00

Niko wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 08:24 I only really used pale moon on Windows. Does anyone know a good Adblock extension for it? The last time I used it on Windows 7 I couldn’t find a good working one.

What about uBlock Origin ?
https://addons.palemoon.org/search/?terms=ublock

Which redirects to this site:
https://github.com/UCyborg/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by Niko

2025-06-06T20:59:49+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 19:56
Niko wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 08:24 I only really used pale moon on Windows. Does anyone know a good Adblock extension for it? The last time I used it on Windows 7 I couldn’t find a good working one.
What about uBlock Origin ?
https://addons.palemoon.org/search/?terms=ublock

Which redirects to this site:
https://github.com/UCyborg/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

I actually forgot to try ublock Origin lmao. I will try it then. Thanks !

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-06T22:56:36+00:00

For the record, the latest official legacy version is still available here:
https://github.com/gorhill/ublock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-06-06T22:58:29+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 19:56
Niko wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 08:24 I only really used pale moon on Windows. Does anyone know a good Adblock extension for it? The last time I used it on Windows 7 I couldn’t find a good working one.
What about uBlock Origin ?
https://addons.palemoon.org/search/?terms=ublock

Which redirects to this site:
https://github.com/UCyborg/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

I know MC said he would retire ad block latitude in favor of this new project from our own UCyborg ... I would trust him ... he's a good person.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-06-07T21:13:33+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 23:29 I keep Arctic Foxie 360 Chrome when absolutely needed. Supermium is too much for my systems to handle.

Off Topic

Thorium somehow manages to be more performant. Still newer than 360Chrome.

Browsers :: Pale moon as a daily driver? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-06-08T19:49:55+00:00

Off Topic

UCyborg wrote: ↑07 Jun 2025, 21:13
xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 23:29 I keep Arctic Foxie 360 Chrome when absolutely needed. Supermium is too much for my systems to handle.

Off Topic
Thorium somehow manages to be more performant. Still newer than 360Chrome.

Hi, UCyborg; unfortunately even Thorium is too slow on my systems even when I tried to rebase it - but thank you for the suggestion. I'm sort of just hanging on to these old computers until they no longer work because they are both very old

EDIT: Ok, I've managed to rebase Thorium to my needs and it now only takes 15 seconds to start up compare to almost 40 seconds as is out of the box. I'll keep it around if I need it but rarely do I need Chromium given the 3 browsers I use.

2nd EDIT: Does anybody by any chance know how to get rid of the ugly green and blue icons on Thorium? I'd like the whole thing to be gray if possible. Thank you in advance.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Author K4sum1

2025-05-16T14:38:14+00:00

I was recently pointed to a version of Steam that works on stock WIndows 7 that is newer than the official 2023 EOS version, or the previously known 2024-09-18 beta. This client is dated 2024-11-08 (or 07 in some timezones even though the date looks like it should be static) and seems to be a beta of some sort for Windows 7. So I obtained it and archived it.

Outside of our Steam archive, the only other version I could find searching online is the client from 2023 and I don't want another XP situation where the 2019-01-04 client was just gone for a while, and the latest that could be found online was the 2018-11-26 client.

Here's the link to the client with instructions on how to install and use it.
https://archive.org/details/steam-for-windows-7

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-05-16T15:19:51+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 14:38...Outside of our Steam archive, the only other version I could find searching online is the client from 2023 and I don't want another XP situation where the 2019-01-04 client was just gone for a while, and the latest that could be found online was the 2018-11-26 client...

Yeah I asked lappo that question here: https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?t=831

I keep my XP very VERY slim but I also don't do much and some games lose me because my attention span sucks nowadays. Some days all I can play is my lame racing car games.

We haven't chatted in a while - how are you doing? I sort of miss you but I realize you are VERY busy. I just don't give up on my friends easily and you are one of them

Ok, take good care

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by OCCiera

2025-05-16T19:29:02+00:00

What's the version number? Is it newer than 1730853000?

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T19:30:32+00:00

I was about to say idk how to get a version like that, but then I remembered the manifest file exists. According to the manifest, it is equal to 1730853000.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T19:31:41+00:00

I also looked at the embed (I have those blocked) and idk how to get the raw link from it so I wrapped it in a URL tag.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by OCCiera

2025-05-16T19:32:06+00:00

Help > About Steam

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T19:32:47+00:00

OCCiera wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 19:32 Help > About Steam

Well, I took a screenshot for the listing and I don't see that number anywhere on it.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by OCCiera

2025-05-16T19:35:52+00:00

steamver.PNG

Odd

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Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by OCCiera

2025-05-16T19:38:01+00:00

By the looks of things, just judging from the context of your EOL message, mine implies a time where it was serviced, and yours that it never was. Even though the number you pulled was the same, I'm inclined to believe your version is newer. If that matters at all, I have no idea.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T19:38:54+00:00

I wonder what happens if you move this into your Steam folder and rename the package folder.
https://dn721803.ca.archive.org/0/items/steam-for-windows-7/steam.cfg

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T19:41:09+00:00

Also they look to be the same version going by date. The date is weirdly dependent on the timezone which is just plain wrong when paired with the UTC -08:00 bit.

If you convert your client's time to 24hr or mine to 12hr, you'll find that I'm 1hr behind so your client's date shows as being 1hr newer.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by OCCiera

2025-05-16T19:41:40+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 19:38 I wonder what happens if you move this into your Steam folder and rename the package folder.
https://dn721803.ca.archive.org/0/items/steam-for-windows-7/steam.cfg

What's the purpose? Reading it, all it does is disable updates, no?

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T19:42:47+00:00

Well yeah, but I want to see if it affects the EOS message or the Steam version number.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by OCCiera

2025-05-16T19:48:13+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 19:42 Well yeah, but I want to see if it affects the EOS message or the Steam version number.

When you say package folder, are you referring to renaming the Steam root folder or the CFG file?

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T19:49:00+00:00

steam.cfg goes in
(Program Files)\Steam

The package folder is (Program FIles)\Steam\package

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by OCCiera

2025-05-16T19:51:26+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑16 May 2025, 19:49 steam.cfg goes in
(Program Files)\Steam

The package folder is (Program FIles)\Steam\package

What am I renaming it to?

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T19:52:12+00:00

Anything really. or you could move it or delete it even idk. Just change it so Steam doesn't see it. I usually just rename it to package1 in testing.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by OCCiera

2025-05-16T19:57:39+00:00

No effect on EOL message, still Stable Client instead of your Beta build, although the version number changes to local instead of 1730853000.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T20:00:04+00:00

It's also possible the message could be affected by being updated to or a fresh install.

Although we should be running the client with -pretendeol-w10 to bypass the message entirely.

Actually lemme add that to the archive.org listing.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by Lappo

2025-05-27T15:58:39+00:00

i have previously successfully used this site for guides on this https://blog.lightwo.net/steam-client-downgrades-survival-kit.html

Gaming :: Black mesa on widows 7? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-05-14T17:15:51+00:00

Hi; Lappo, I hope this message finds you well.

Quick question if you don't mind me going off-topic - otherwise please disregard.

Do you need steam to run Black mesa?

Do these seem 'legit'? I don't want to download malware.

https://en.freedownloadmanager.org/Windows-PC/Black-Mesa-FREE.html
https://download.cnet.com/black-mesa/3000-7441_4-75780419.html

Thank you in advance and I'd like to try it on XP (the old version(s) that is). My concentration isn't that great and some games are beyond me and I fall short in that area. Mostly I play lame games. Ha!

Have a good one,

Sal

Gaming :: Black mesa on widows 7? :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-16T20:08:23+00:00

Both of those look sus asf. I don't think you're going to find a XP compatible Black Mesa without torrenting. Maybe if you're lucky it could be on archive.org

Gaming :: Black mesa on widows 7? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-05-16T21:45:11+00:00

Thank you K4 ... glad I asked before trying them. I'll (surely) avoid them. TC

Windows 11 :: My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11 :: Reply by kast_winvistauser

2025-06-07T15:55:36+00:00

I like xp, vista, 7
8 is a kinda start of spying and telemetry, first os with microsoft trash tho
10/11 is a spying shit which also bloats ur pc with they shit, and now they want to control u...

Windows 11 :: My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11 :: Reply by Bird

2025-06-08T05:53:57+00:00

@kast: Windows XP had lots of spying as well. That activation process was also quite invasive, requiring an internet connection or the activation by phone. And if too many hardwares components got swapped, uh, must be a new computer! Activate again!

Check the network traffic on a standard Windows XP install, such a chatty little nasty piece of ...

Windows 11 :: My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11 :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-06-08T06:57:16+00:00

You can decode all the activation requests and responses, and there's no personal info in it. Also, most of XP's network traffic is either looking for local network services, or looking for updates from servers that have long gone.

Windows 11 :: My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11 :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-06-08T09:15:49+00:00

teknixstuff wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025, 06:57 there's no personal info in it

Bird wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025, 05:53 Windows XP had lots of spying as well.

Win10 *CAN* be made bloat-free!
It's just that today's "userbase" doesn't feel like they should spend the time.
It definitely gets harder and harder with each new release of Win10 and then Win11 on top of that.
I personally use a *2016* version of Win10.

The "userbase" just forgets (over, and over, and over again), then forgets again (over, and over, and over again) that it took them TWENTY YEARS to get XP to "where they like it". Okay, maybe not twenty years. But it took a LONG TIME to get XP to where we think of XP. We (the userbase) kept tinkering and tinkering and tinkering until all of us were "happy" with XP.

How many people running XP don't at least run XP-AntiSpy?

But to be honest, while some of us do tinker and tweak, I personally feel that most of us just like to biatch and whine and complain.
ie, complain about telemetry and privacy rights when it comes to Microsoft, but turn a blind eye to their social media platforms violating every privacy right in every country but hide behind legal loopholes on all of the "data" they collect.

Windows 11 :: My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11 :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-06-08T19:47:32+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025, 09:15...but turn a blind eye to their social media platforms violating every privacy right in every country but hide behind legal loopholes on all of the "data" they collect...

I agree which is why I avoid all social media now.

Windows 11 :: My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11 :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-06-08T23:03:17+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025, 09:15...How many people running XP don't at least run XP-AntiSpy?...

I do use that along with safe xp.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/safe_xp.html

Windows 11 :: My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11 :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-06-10T18:33:34+00:00

Never heard of XP-AntiSpy or Safe XP.

When it comes to Windows 11, I'm more curious what they were changing in its DirectMusic implementation after all these years. It broke some music playback in Drakan: Order of the Flame, something about the (mis)handling of empty RIFF chunks.

And what happened to implementation of Win9x heap manager that functioned well since WinXP days (living as compatibility shim EmulateHeap for buggy apps with certain kind of memory management bugs).

If I center window on one screen, send it to other screen, why window manager no longer sets its relative position like it was on previous screen? Intentional or not?

What about old builds of Half-Life cause DWM to constantly hog one CPU core?

I also found an odd temporary way to prevent screen off and eventually sleep to kick. Set taskbar to auto hide, click the desktop. Desktop is set to now show icons and background changes periodically. Though this is on Win11 23H2 with ExplorerPatcher etc.

I imagine with all possible combinations of hardware and 3rd party software, actually supporting Windows must be a nightmare.

Windows 8.x & Server 2012 :: HD 2000 Minecraft Fix On 8.1 Update 3 :: Author RedBeam

2025-05-17T17:19:06+00:00

i have an old sandybridge acer made gateway laptop with celeron b850 and was wo dering if the hd 2000 that comes with it can be made to play modern games like minecraft without the GL error happening as i would really like to revive this laptop and 10-11 are not options for it at all

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Windows 7 Extended Kernel :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-17T13:10:09+00:00

Another fork:
https://github.com/YuZhouRen86/VxKex-NEXT

I have not tested it.

Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: Windows Vista on MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 :: Reply by kast_winvistauser

2025-06-06T15:44:27+00:00

i have installed vista on b550m-k ds3h with r5 5600x + rx 580 + nvme m.2 ssd 512 gb, r3dfox aint crashing but prefer supermium than it, actually enjoying of using it but theres not a lot of thing where i can use vista instead of 7 (idk how there show image without services like imgur, cannot make proof srry)

Windows 9x and older :: Windows 95 Setup wallpaper in 4K :: Author Duke

2025-05-19T19:00:05+00:00

Windows 95 setup wallpaper in 4K for download:
https://www.neowin.net/news/someone-recreated-the-windows-95-setup-wallpaper-in-4k-for-download/

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-17T13:42:45+00:00

So, any chance for a R3dfox v138 ?
R3dfox is already two versions behind Firefox and with the EOL of Firefox 115 ESR at the end of August I'm afraid we will be left without an up to date browser for Windows 7 & 8

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-17T13:52:25+00:00

Yes, I've just been busy distracted with other projects. I'll get on it eventually.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Lappo

2025-05-27T15:44:07+00:00

take your time buddy, you do gods work

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-28T19:04:37+00:00

First thoughts after updating R3dfox to v137.0.2:

1) I had to fight for a while for restoring the visual theme I had in v136.0.4.
Now it looks somehow similar but not quite the same, I'll do a deep comparison later. But I wonder why some settings were reset ?

2) I'm now experiencing this bug with the taskbar:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1935560

It never happened before and now it occurs every time I launch R3dfox and also when I open a new window. Very annoying.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-31T12:53:33+00:00

Does b136.0.4 have the issue, also does the hotfix have the issue?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-31T13:01:20+00:00

The taskbar issue ?

K4sum1 wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 12:53 Does b136.0.4 have the issue

No.

K4sum1 wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 12:53 also does the hotfix have the issue?

Yes.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-05-31T16:23:31+00:00

I'm not sure what would cause this or why it only appears in 137 when the issue you linked started with 133.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-05-31T16:49:20+00:00

Workaround: I hit the Windows key twice then it's working fine for the current window.
But I have to do that for every new window.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-01T16:57:25+00:00

Another workaround, if it can help to debug the issue: I run R3dfox, I can't access the taskbar. Then I open a new window, I still can't access the taskbar but if I close this window then I can access the taskbar on the previous, the first window.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox a new version? :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2025-06-01T21:57:57+00:00

I'm using v. 132.0 (64-bit) on Win 7. Some links have stopped responding to clicks. Is there a new version out there?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox a new version? :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-01T22:42:10+00:00

Ror3dfox wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 21:57 Is there a new version out there?

New versions are always available here:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox a new version? :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2025-06-01T22:55:33+00:00

I found 137, and installed it, and got this error message
" Program can't start because MSVCP.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling to fix this problem"

Lacking a Firefox (I still have Chrome, but it's not my primary.) reinstalled my old 132.( I keep a copy in my computer.)

Now I've lost my entire profile---customizations, extensions, settings, bookmarks, the whole shebang. I managed to find Bitwarden extension and reinstall it.

How do I get my profile back? Or rather, how do I "tell" the browser where the profile is?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-02T13:27:02+00:00

Ror3dfox wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 22:55 I found 137, and installed it, and got this error message
" Program can't start because MSVCP.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling to fix this problem"

I guess it's MSVCP140.dll. You need to download the VC++_UCRT_DLLs.7z archive:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/download/v137.0.2-hotfix/VC++_UCRT_DLLs.7z
and to extract the correct version of the DLLs to the main folder of R3dfox where R3dfox.exe is.

If it still doesn't work then you may need to install the redistributable Visual Studio 2015, 2017, 2019, and 2022 runtime:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170

Ror3dfox wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 22:55 Now I've lost my entire profile---customizations, extensions, settings, bookmarks, the whole shebang. I managed to find Bitwarden extension and reinstall it.
How do I get my profile back? Or rather, how do I "tell" the browser where the profile is?

There is an issue about that:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/291

Your profile should be in this folder: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\EclipseCommunity\r3dfox
Where is...your user name

You can tell the browser where your profile is by running it with the -p switch:
r3dfox.exe -p "C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\EclipseCommunity\r3dfox"

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: a new version? :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2025-06-02T16:36:06+00:00

OK, thanks, I had forgotten. That was scary. With some variations, my Firefox profile is about 15 years old.

Now back to the original problem: I've installed 137.02, but I can't run it because I'm missing a dll.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-06-02T16:45:13+00:00

You have already been provided a link to obtain the dll.
The browser download does not need to include dll files that 90% of computers do not need.
You, being among the 10% (of which SO AM I), have been provided the link for the dll.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2025-06-02T16:59:24+00:00

Sorry, I missed that. The github page is blank.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-06-02T18:39:45+00:00

We can all be as "retro" as we want.
But the shear reality is that GitHub does not have to be retro, no matter how much the retro-community wants them to be.

In other words, GitHub does NOT have to work in XP, Vista, 7, or 8 and GitHub does NOT have to work with browsers that still work in XP, Vista, 7, or 8.

In still other words, you will have to use a modern browser to download those dll's.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-06-02T18:41:57+00:00

Also, um, GitHub doesn't have to "work".
Just click on the download link so that the file downoads.
No GitHUb page needs to "render" at all.

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/download/v137.0.2-hotfix/VC++_UCRT_DLLs.7z

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-03T14:16:57+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑28 May 2025, 19:04 R3dfox v137.0.2
I'm now experiencing this bug with the taskbar:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1935560

Problem solved with R3dfox 138.0.5

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2025-06-03T23:03:46+00:00

Also, um, GitHub doesn't have to "work".
Just click on the download link so that the file downoads.
No GitHUb page needs to "render" at all.

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/download/v137.0.2-hotfix/VC++_UCRT_DLLs.7z

We're dealing with several people's problems here at once.
OK, I downloaded the github file. Should I place the MSVCP140.dll in the Windows folder, then run 137 again?

Or should I D/L 138?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-06-03T23:38:16+00:00

138 vs 137 will not make a difference.
If you need the dll for 137, you will also need the dll for 138.

Place msvcp140.dll in the same folder that contains r3dfox.exe
Then close (if open) and relaunch r3dfox.

Note that in some cases you will not know if another dll is needed until you fix the first missing dll.
ie, I also needed to add vcruntime140.dll and vcruntime140_1.dll in addition to msvcp140.dll
Which is identical to what was needed added if I run Mypal68.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-04T13:02:46+00:00

@K4sum1
Why do you absolutely want to force the captive portal service to be enabled ?
That wasn't the case in R3dfox for a long time and AFAIK no one ever complained about it, so I wonder.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-06-04T13:23:24+00:00

I was suggested to do it using neverssl.com, except ig it didn't work.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-05T16:48:51+00:00

The taskbar bug is back if you use the F11 key for toggling the browser full screen on and off. And once you have done it no workaround is working anymore, a restart of R3dfox is needed.

The stock Firefox blue is darker than before:

R3dfox 139:

R3dfox139-Blue.png

R3dfox 138:

R3dfox138-Blue.png

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R3dfox139-Blue.png (1.57 KiB)

R3dfox138-Blue.png (1.54 KiB)

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

2025-06-06T01:37:44+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 16:48 The stock Firefox blue is darker than before:

R3dfox 139:

R3dfox 138:

... There's a GitHub issue currently tracking this :

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/302

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-06T07:28:02+00:00

GoodConcscience wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 01:37 There's a GitHub issue currently tracking this :
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/302

It's not quite the same. I'm talking about the blue color being used in the interface.
I don't experience this color problem when displaying FTP pages or other pages.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

2025-06-06T18:15:45+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 07:28 It's not quite the same.

Well , your two image attachments demonstrate the difference in colouration between r3dfox 138 and 139 for the same unvisited link, this is all I was going by, so I hope you understand why I pointed you to GH #302 ...

Duke wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 07:28 when displaying FTP pages

While the term "FTP" is mentioned several times in the linked issue, all affected links cited there are served over HTTPS ...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-06T19:51:04+00:00

GoodConcscience wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 18:15 your two image attachments demonstrate the difference in colouration between r3dfox 138 and 139 for the same unvisited link

Actually it's just a bookmark shown in the drop down list of the address bar to expose the difference.

GoodConcscience wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 18:15 While the term "FTP" is mentioned several times in the linked issue, all affected links cited there are served over HTTPS ...

It doesn't matter for me, for some reason I'm not affected by this light blue color from your pics in the bug report.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

2025-06-06T20:23:41+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 19:51 Actually it's just a bookmark shown in the drop down list of the address bar to expose the difference.

Thanks for the clarification...

Duke wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 19:51 I'm not affected by this light blue color from your pics in the bug report.

FTR, none of the pics inside that GH issue are mine ...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Installing and running 137 :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2025-06-06T22:33:10+00:00

by The-10-Pen » 03 Jun 2025, 23:38

138 vs 137 will not make a difference.
If you need the dll for 137, you will also need the dll for 138.

Place msvcp140.dll in the same folder that contains r3dfox.exe
Then close (if open) and relaunch r3dfox.

Note that in some cases you will not know if another dll is needed until you fix the first missing dll.
ie, I also needed to add vcruntime140.dll and vcruntime140_1.dll in addition to msvcp140.dll
Which is identical to what was needed added if I run Mypal68.

When I extracted MSVCP140.dll into the r3dfox folder, I got a message that I already had it. So I tried running 137 again. Then it tells me the dll is still missing, and I can't run 137 at all.

I had to reinstall 132. Sigh.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Installing and running 137 :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-06T23:07:42+00:00

Ror3dfox wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 22:33 When I extracted MSVCP140.dll into the r3dfox folder, I got a message that I already had it. So I tried running 137 again. Then it tells me the dll is still missing, and I can't run 137 at all.

You need to extract all of the DLLs from VC++_UCRT_DLLs.7z into the R3dfox folder, not MSVCP140.dll only.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-06-07T08:00:03+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 16:48 The taskbar bug is back if you use the F11 key for toggling the browser full screen on and off. And once you have done it no workaround is working anymore, a restart of R3dfox is needed.

What happens with this fork?

https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/

Duke wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 16:48 The stock Firefox blue is darker than before:

Will be fixed next release

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-07T19:14:49+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑07 Jun 2025, 08:00 What happens with this fork?
https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/

I can't reproduce it anymore for now
I'm not sure how it happened so forget it and I'll tell you if it occurs again.

K4sum1 wrote: ↑07 Jun 2025, 08:00 Will be fixed next release

Thanks!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Installing and running 137 :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2025-06-10T15:21:14+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 23:07
Ror3dfox wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 22:33 When I extracted MSVCP140.dll into the r3dfox folder, I got a message that I already had it. So I tried running 137 again. Then it tells me the dll is still missing, and I can't run 137 at all.
You need to extract all of the DLLs from VC++_UCRT_DLLs.7z into the R3dfox folder, not MSVCP140.dll only.

I closed r3dfox, extracted all the files.
It says I already have them, do I want to replace them. I said "yes to all"
Then I got 43 error messages "Can not open file. Access denied" Then it names each of the 43 dll's.
But I reopened r3dFox and my version has switched to 137.

Some of my links still aren't clickable, which is what my original problem was.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Installing and running 137 :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-11T14:17:09+00:00

Ror3dfox wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025, 15:21 Some of my links still aren't clickable, which is what my original problem was.

Which links ?
Please share the address of a page showing this problem.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-11T14:23:33+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑07 Jun 2025, 08:00 Will be fixed next release

It's not fixed in v139.0.4rc. OK, technically speaking it's not a release so take this as a reminder

That said, I like the new purple theme
But maybe the dark background is just a little bit too black because it's making some black icons in the drop down list of the bookmarks hard to see (Dark theme + Dark mode + Windows 10 Modern + Eclipse Purple).

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-06-11T15:57:21+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 14:23 It's not fixed in v139.0.4rc. OK, technically speaking it's not a release so take this as a reminder

Now that you say that, I notice I missed the tab line color. Which will be fixed next release, but what colors are you talking about because everything else should be as it was?

Duke wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 14:23 But maybe the dark background is just a little bit too black because it's making some black icons in the drop down list of the bookmarks hard to see (Dark theme + Dark mode + Windows 10 Modern + Eclipse Purple).

The bookmarks dropdown is supposed to be native styled, which in 10 dark mode is still light. Are you using the non-native menus config? That isn't really a config I considered.

If you mean the bookmarks toolbar, I do notice that is kinda an issue, but if I change the main color, then it is wouldn't really be Eclipse purple anymore.

(I'm going by the two old main colors which is #17151c and #0b0a0d)

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-06-11T16:45:24+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 15:57 what colors are you talking about because everything else should be as it was?

I'm talking about the stock Firefox blue which is darker than before:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6926#p6926

K4sum1 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 15:57 The bookmarks dropdown is supposed to be native styled, which in 10 dark mode is still light. Are you using the non-native menus config? That isn't really a config I considered.

This is my config:

R3dfox139rc-SpecificOptions.png

K4sum1 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 15:57 If you mean the bookmarks toolbar, I do notice that is kinda an issue, but if I change the main color, then it is wouldn't really be Eclipse purple anymore.

Yes, the background color of the drop down list from the toolbar is a bit too black for black icons:

R3dfox139rc-BookmarksDropDownList.png

R3dfox139rc-BlackBookmark.png

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R3dfox139rc-SpecificOptions.png (28.2 KiB)

R3dfox139rc-BookmarksDropDownList.png (15.96 KiB)

R3dfox139rc-BlackBookmark.png (0.37 KiB)

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by K4sum1

2025-06-11T17:34:59+00:00

Duke wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 16:45 I'm talking about the stock Firefox blue which is darker than before:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6926#p6926

It was working in my test build, but I shifted the code around a bit before release. Maybe I fucked the syntax.

Duke wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 16:45 Yes, the background color of the drop down list from the toolbar is a bit too black for black icons:
R3dfox139rc-BookmarksDropDownList.png
R3dfox139rc-BlackBookmark.png

Oh you mean those. I don't wanna change the color though so ig it stays.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-05-16T22:34:37+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250517-3219d2d-uxp-296db1641b-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20250517-3219d2d-uxp-296db1641b-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20250517-3219d2d-uxp-296db1641b-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250517-d849524bd-uxp-296db1641b-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250517-d849524bd-uxp-296db1641b-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20250517-d849524bd-uxp-296db1641b-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250517-d849524bd-uxp-296db1641b-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20250517-d849524bd-uxp-296db1641b-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- No issue - Include all non-ubiquitous image and media types in nav Accept: (0e02e94278)
- No issue - Explicitly indicate image/apng in `Accept:` header (055765d101)
- No Issue - Fix incorrectly written pref name (40e01c31e4)
- No Issue - Fixes for building with LLVM 19 included with FreeBSD 13.5. Fix a conflict with libc++ 19 and the old Mozilla (re)alloc macros. LLVM 18+ does not allow std::char_traits so avoid it. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1849070 Partial NSS upgrade to replace ByteString with a class. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1851092 (e8b3077d4f)
- No issue - Bump general.useragent.compatMode.version to 128.0 (facab7f0ab)
- No Issue - Remove obsolete pref. (422ca16a8e)
- Issue #2736 - Part 1: Provide more consistent principals to CSP. (9ad680cfc4)
- Issue #2736 - Part 2: Pass subject principal to SetAttribute and friends. (824d0cad58)
- Issue #2736 - Part 3: Use `TriggeringPrincipal` for image loads. (166b25a42c)
- Issue #2736 - Part 4: Re-work img `` attribute. (c8db9efb3c)
- Issue #2736 - Part 5: Re-work img `` attribute. (2bdb9f3d85)
- Issue #2736 - Part 6: Re-work