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Compatibility Mods :: [XUL Firefox and derivates on w98 MODERN UP-TO-DATE BROWSERS!!] Do something horrible on your ancient PC :: Author leo

2025-10-31T12:14:43+00:00

Introduction/credits

Guide and resources were provided to me by ivyflow3r/RayZen. Originally posted on YouTube, we've altered the guide to include better working files.
This guide will install KernelEx, along with a few unofficial updates and several DLLs from Windows XP. All of this will allow a Windows 98SE/Me system to run XUL Firefox and other browsers based on it.

Requirements

This setup will work on a Windows 98SE or a Windows Me installation. If you're using Windows 2000, there's probably something better out there.

For a somewhat decent experience, you should have the highest possible RAM. In base Windows98/Me, that would be 512mb. But HimemX and a few system.ini tweaks should allow you to use 1GB of RAM just fine.

You will also need a CPU with the SSE2 instruction set, like an Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon 64 for that "somewhat decent experience".
RT also provides New Moon builds for older SSE CPUs like the Pentium 3 and IA32 builds for i686 CPUs I believe?, but AFAIK it will be (especially IA32) terribly slow.
If you actually want to browse websites on one of those, you should give something actually made for this kind of hardware a try instead of attempting to run software tailored to the horrid bloat that is most of the modern Web.

Downloads

KernelEx, the updates and DLLs needed
The direct download link

Downloads for New Moon and Serpent
Firefox 52.9.0esr on Mozilla's FTP.
Mypal

Installation

1. Copy unicows.dll to C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\
2. Install KernelEx via the installer program (duh) KernelEx-4.5.2.exe. If you automatically enable KernelEx for everything, you may run into issues with some (native Win98) programs. In that case, be ready to mess with the Compatibility tab in Properties.
3. Preferably in DOS mode, copy everything from \KernelExUpdates\KernelEx to C:\WINDOWS\KernelEx\ (copy path\to\KernelEx\*.* C:\WINDOWS\kernelex\*.*). If files happen to be conflicting, you overwrite.
4. Make sure that in C:\WINDOWS\kernelex\core.ini, [BASE] contains kstub824 and kexvista.
5. (specifically Firefox 52 requires you to) Copy ucrtbase.dll from the DLL folder to C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
6. Add KnownDLLs.reg to your registry.

Browser setup

The setup program for your browser will usually not work.
Download a ZIP archived folder, if the developer manufactures your browser like that or (for Mypal and Firefox) use an archive manager like 7-Zip to open the contents of the installer, and extract the "core" folder, which contains the browser itself.
Copy the DLLs from \KernelExUpdates\DLL to the browser's folder.
Open the Properties of the browser executable and set KernelEx to "use specific compatibility mode: Windows XP SP2". Do the same for xul.dll.
Edit dependentlibs.list with a text editor to only contain xul.dll.

Your browser should now boot.

In about:config, change gfx.content.azure.backends to user set string value "skia".

To fix a possible broken search bar,
go to C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\browser's name\Profiles\something.default\and replace search.json (which may have a slightly different name) to be an empty, read-only file.

To fix broken fonts in webpages,
Go to the Content tab in the browser's settings, then Fonts, and pick some fonts or use the defaults and untick "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above."

Depending on your browser, some of these specific steps may change but it's always "force your fonts on webpages from the config" and "always empty search.json".

This should be the best you can do.
While Mypal 26 and Firefox 52 may be a bit outdated and will struggle with some webpages, New Moon and Serpent are up to date, and results may exceed your expectations.
I have previously managed to use Discord, however last time I had a basically unusable experience, probably due to being in too many servers or forgetting about the about:config step.

I couldn't get it to render actual channels this time. Sorry.

Have fun!

Compatibility Mods :: [XUL Firefox and derivates on w98 MODERN UP-TO-DATE BROWSERS!!] Do something horrible on your ancient PC :: Reply by Duke

2025-10-31T15:33:25+00:00

Thanks for the info!

Compatibility Mods :: [XUL Firefox and derivates on w98 MODERN UP-TO-DATE BROWSERS!!] Do something horrible on your ancient PC :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-01T03:35:41+00:00

Now try Lun3r

Compatibility Mods :: [XUL Firefox and derivates on w98 MODERN UP-TO-DATE BROWSERS!!] Do something horrible on your ancient PC :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-02T02:42:17+00:00

would this work on anything past 52.9? (e.g, Mypal 68)

Compatibility Mods :: [XUL Firefox and derivates on w98 MODERN UP-TO-DATE BROWSERS!!] Do something horrible on your ancient PC :: Reply by leo

2025-11-02T16:06:46+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 02 Nov 2025, 02:42
would this work on anything past 52.9? (e.g, Mypal 68)

Hell naw (sorry)
I don't know TOO MUCH about the technological side of things, but Servo has a lot that would either require overwhelmingly extensive modification,
or just XP or newer.
With quite a bit of modification too, given how modern Firefox and r3dfox both require One Core API.

and don't get me started on the speed

Compatibility Mods :: [XUL Firefox and derivates on w98 MODERN UP-TO-DATE BROWSERS!!] Do something horrible on your ancient PC :: Reply by leo

2025-11-02T16:09:55+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: * 01 Nov 2025, 03:35
Now try Lun3r

We're moving out so the PC is currently sitting in a box and the HDD died, so I have a lot to do before I can

ples mail ssd 128gb

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 10 and 11 from 7 SP1 ported to XP x86/x64 :: Author OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-18T18:37:15+00:00

Another self-explanatory post, but this time i DIDN'T make it (idk who originally made it)
https://my.peanits.co.uk/index.php/s/FG5Fs2n5KAKKgWf

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 10 and 11 from 7 SP1 ported to XP x86/x64 :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-18T21:04:39+00:00

I wonder which program using DirectX 11 is still running on XP

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 10 and 11 from 7 SP1 ported to XP x86/x64 :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-19T11:45:48+00:00

Duke wrote: * 18 Nov 2025, 21:04
I wonder which program using DirectX 11 is still running on XP

GTA V Legacy

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 10 and 11 from 7 SP1 ported to XP x86/x64 :: Reply by Peacock

2025-11-22T17:44:48+00:00

a step closer to DirectX 12 for windows 7, maybe someday.

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 10 and 11 from 7 SP1 ported to XP x86/x64 :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-22T17:50:52+00:00

Peacock wrote: * 22 Nov 2025, 17:44
a step closer to DirectX 12 for windows 7, maybe someday.

Here, somehow:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?t=908

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 12 from Win10 1507 on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 :: Author OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-14T21:18:46+00:00

Pretty self-explanatory here.

Since for some damn reason I can't upload, here's a Nextcloud link (Discord CDN was down)
https://my.peanits.co.uk/index.php/s/46fJSSjLwf4ypzP

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 12 from Win10 1507 on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 :: Reply by xYannikx

2025-11-14T21:25:56+00:00

"This content is no longer available."

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 12 from Win10 1507 on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-15T01:34:50+00:00

I guess Discord is using temporary tokens.
Use https://upload.disroot.org instead

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 12 from Win10 1507 on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-15T12:14:52+00:00

xYannikx wrote: * 14 Nov 2025, 21:25
"This content is no longer available."

https://my.peanits.co.uk/index.php/s/46fJSSjLwf4ypzP

Updated link :3

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 12 from Win10 1507 on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-15T14:12:00+00:00

oh yea, I got WDDM 2 working too (8.1 only) , but don't expect a release for a while as it is still super unstable.

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 12 from Win10 1507 on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-15T18:43:59+00:00

UPDATE: it seems to be a per app basis, some like DxDiag still report DX11, but after some fuckery, some apps like Realtek HD Audio reports DX12.

Compatibility Mods :: DirectX 12 from Win10 1507 on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-23T02:42:07+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 15 Nov 2025, 18:43
UPDATE: it seems to be a per app basis, some like DxDiag still report DX11, but after some fuckery, some apps like Realtek HD Audio reports DX12.

Dolphin seems to acknowledge that D3D12 exists, but crashes upon launch.

General Software & Hardware :: Windows sucks :: Author Duke

2025-11-16T19:55:58+00:00

Why Windows went nuts, explained by a retired Microsoft Windows engineer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTpA5jt1g60

General Software & Hardware :: Windows sucks :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-16T21:31:05+00:00

Saw that, it would be sensible if they realized his ideas, but people at MS are loco, so it's a pipe dream.

PS: I never thought about running WinNT4's Task Manager on Win11, so I tried it. Works, the icons on programs list use reduced color depth. And seeing the option to show 16-bit tasks on 64-bit OS is funny.

General Software & Hardware :: Windows sucks :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-16T22:50:44+00:00

To me the newer windows versions are trying to pretend to be a smart phone; just looks that way to me.

General Software & Hardware :: Windows sucks :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-16T23:34:41+00:00

I'm fortunate enough to be able to run ENTERPRISE versions.
None of the UWP / metro (cr)ap[ps].
Win8 is definitely where everything started to go downhill fast.

General Software & Hardware :: Windows sucks :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-16T23:44:10+00:00

Duke wrote: * 16 Nov 2025, 19:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTpA5jt1g60

0:40 = The Windows kernel is every bit as powerful and robust as the Linux kernel.

Then goes on to discuss the layers of software on top of that kernel being the problem.

AGREED !!! AGREED !!! AGREED !!!
Said it a thousand times, learn how to make your own "lite" version.
And, more importantly, MAKE YOUR OWN "LITE" VERSION, do not download anything called "tiny" and expect it to actually be tiny.

"To each their own", of course.

General Software & Hardware :: Windows sucks :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-16T23:48:11+00:00

2:25 = Today, the chant should really be Power Users, Power Users!

BINGO !!!

General Software & Hardware :: Deno for Windows 7/8 ? :: Author Duke

2025-11-18T14:04:33+00:00

When I'm using Deno with yt-dlp on Windows 8.1 I'm getting this error message:
"The procedure entry point IsWow64Process2 could not be located in the dynamic link library Deno.exe"

After some investigation it looks like IsWow64Process2 is only available on Windows 10 1809 and higher.
Is there a workaround or a build for Windows 7 & 8 ?

Github of Deno: https://github.com/denoland/deno/

General Software & Hardware :: Deno for Windows 7/8 ? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-18T14:58:43+00:00

Duke wrote: * 18 Nov 2025, 14:04
... with yt-dlp ...

I'm really starting to feel like the internet would die out and fade into existence without "yt-dlp".

General Software & Hardware :: Deno for Windows 7/8 ? :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-18T19:28:10+00:00

QuickJS option here works fine

https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/EJS

General Software & Hardware :: Deno for Windows 7/8 ? :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-18T21:09:41+00:00

Thanks, I'll give QuickJS a try.
Which build are you using ? This one https://github.com/quickjs-ng/quickjs/releases or this one https://bellard.org/quickjs/binary_releases/?C=M;O=D ?

General Software & Hardware :: Deno for Windows 7/8 ? :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-18T21:20:53+00:00

I've tried Fabrice Bellard's one, a well known genius we can trust, and it's working pretty fine
Thanks for the tip
Plus it's only 920 kB vs 112 MB for Deno.

Browsers :: Hafnium - from-scratch web engine for XP x64 and above :: Author OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-01T16:41:25+00:00

So far VERY BASIC but I hope things will get better.

Browsers :: Hafnium - from-scratch web engine for XP x64 and above :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-01T20:09:29+00:00

Browsers :: Are you creating a new browser? :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-07T09:11:03+00:00

Are you creating a new browser?

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-10T21:29:15+00:00

Firefox 115.30 ESR has been released:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.30.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.30.0/releasenotes/

Mobile Devices :: Firefox drops support for Android 5-6-7 :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-11-01T13:43:04+00:00

Interestingly, this comes at a time when other Chromium browsers are stopping support on Android 8 (Oreo) and Android 9 (Pie). I used Vivaldi on the former, using my other tablet which is a Samsung Tab S3. As of v7.6, I'm shut out

Mobile Devices :: Firefox drops support for Android 5-6-7 :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-01T17:10:56+00:00

I'd keep using it 'till the wheels fall off.

In my case, important stuff other than the web browser...Android 7 doesn't cut it anymore. One financial app dropped support over half-year ago, though old version still works...for however long, the other is on the brink (minimum Android 7), the gas station app, that dropped Android 7 too and old version is blocked.

Good thing about Chromium though, it tends to last longer without updates. Unless the sites you need quickly adapt latest Chromeisms.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-20T22:34:13+00:00

I start around 600mb (out of 32gb) after login on a warm boot (Win7 Updated V5 w/ SecondSystem). Normally however (Teams, r3dfox and Discord open, maybe VSCode and VMware) i'd get 7-12gb used. I want to ideally get CPU usage lower though as that is my main stress point.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-20T23:05:43+00:00

It's been a very long time since I have ran Win 7 but I do have an install disk for it around here somewhere.
I guess I'm a bit reluctant to even try it on my newest laptop (AMD Ryzen 5).
I need DRM-capable browser (all tv's in the house are connected to computers and everything is streamed).
I would have no tv if it weren't for streaming apps.
Been there, done that. Once lived without a tv, in an era before mobile phones. No need to do that again.
I kind of really like streaming all entertainment viewing and not having a "tv", per se.
But again, DRM is a bit of a must nowadays. So I can't really see ever dropping back to below Win10.
But for now, hoping to *NEVER* need Win11. Time will tell...

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-21T00:09:58+00:00

99% of what I watch is also streamed from my browser(s) and its not easy but I can not afford cable.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-21T00:28:28+00:00

I don't look at it as an "affordability" aspect.
I used to have three paid-for commercial-free streaming platforms.
Only did that for one year.
I learned very quickly that what happened (at least for me) was that I would binge-watch on ONE of those three.
And the other two wouldn't get touched until I was all the way through whatever I was binge-watching.
Would always be MONTHS (plural!) of watching ONE platform.
Then roll over to one of the other two and watch that ONE for MONTHS (plural!)
So I now make certain to only ever pay for ONE AT A TIME.
Keeps me from feeling "wasteful" for paying for three (and thinking I needed five) but only ever watching ONE.
So "steer into the skid" and only pay for one

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-21T10:52:26+00:00

If it weren't for DRM, I'd still be running XP with a startup of only 57mb and a process count of only 13 (14 if you include Task Manager to grab a screencap).

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Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-11-21T11:10:34+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 21 Nov 2025, 10:52
If it weren't for DRM, I'd still be running XP with a startup of only 57mb and a process count of only 13 (14 if you include Task Manager to grab a screencap).

2025-11-21_5-50-27.jpg

Instead of dealing with DRM, you could always just pirate stuff instead.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-21T12:13:44+00:00

LOL

I suppose so. But there are other reasons that Win10 has *gained me* over XP that I don't want to revert backwards.
I really feel now that clinging onto XP was basically akin to turning down a better job because it would disqualify government assistance.
I say that sarcastically to "paint a picture". XP really really REALLY was just "holding me back". This isn't 1990 anymore.

I was a die-hard XP user until just over a year or so ago, roughly.
When it turned into a full-time job just to keep XP able to "do" stuff, that's when I finally ditched it.
From what I see on the few forums that I frequent, Win7 is just as much of a full-time job.
So... "No thanks! Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt."

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-11-21T12:16:00+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 21 Nov 2025, 12:13
LOL

I suppose so. But there are other reasons that Win10 has *gained me* over XP that I don't want to revert backwards.
I really feel now that clinging onto XP was basically akin to turning down a better job because it would disqualify government assistance.
I say that sarcastically to "paint a picture". XP really really REALLY was just "holding me back". This isn't 1990 anymore.

I was a die-hard XP user until just over a year or so ago, roughly.
When it turned into a full-time job just to keep XP able to "do" stuff, that's when I finally ditched it.
From what I see on the few forums that I frequent, Win7 is just as much of a full-time job.
So... "No thanks! Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt."

As a W7 user (at least currently), it's definitely not a "full-time job". Getting everything sorted out after a clean install took a fair bit longer than on W10, but after that I've had next to zero compatibility problems to sort out. I also previously used W8.1, and it was a similar ordeal, albeit with a bit of additional hassle with installing my graphics drivers (because they officially don't support 8.1).

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-21T12:24:40+00:00

Win7 is actually one of the reasons that I stuck with XP for so long.
My eye vision is so great that Win7 gave me migraines due to my vision seeing red and green dancing pixels in the corners of fonts.
It was a real thing! It didn't just affect me. Not everybody can see them.
Maybe there is a fix for it that I never discovered during my short time with Win7.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-11-21T12:33:43+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 21 Nov 2025, 12:24
Win7 is actually one of the reasons that I stuck with XP for so long.
My eye vision is so great that Win7 gave me migraines due to my vision seeing red and green dancing pixels in the corners of fonts.
It was a real thing! It didn't just affect me. Not everybody can see them.
Maybe there is a fix for it that I never discovered during my short time with Win7.

Perhaps that's related to ClearType font smoothing? XP uses greyscale font smoothing by default instead, but since Vista, ClearType has been enabled by default. You can quite easily disable ClearType and go back to either greyscale smoothing or no smoothing.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-21T13:05:36+00:00

Again, been there, done that. Didn't work.
You also have to couple not only the OS font rendering but the whole evolution of GDI/DirectWrite/etc in web browsers themselves.
Couple all of that with MY need (it will not be everybody's need) for DRM-CAPABLE and XP and 7 are just plain "dead on arrival" these days.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-21T20:20:03+00:00

XP is like a full time job to keep going and finding crazy browsers that work one moment and not the next. I'm just hanging in there with my ancient machines until they quit because its not worth updating to 7 IMO because we still have to make it work in 2025. It is a headache and I have to use linux on DVD to enjoy my devices as much as possible. Regrettably. the association would prefer all clients to be on a tablet and I'm the only one that is allowed to have a PC and Printer here. I'm allowed to keep one in the closet but I can not have both going and the 2nd one is a VERY old Dell that is basically useless to me other than for nostalgic purposes. Also using XP in general is nostalgic but a PITA; honestly.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-23T00:52:59+00:00

Correction: Most all here (where I reside) are on a smart phone and I don't own a smart phone - no PC or tablet at all.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-27T21:45:45+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 21 Nov 2025, 20:20
XP is like a full time job to keep going and finding crazy browsers that work one moment and not the next. I'm just hanging in there with my ancient machines until they quit because its not worth updating to 7 IMO because we still have to make it work in 2025.

Didn't you write somewhere you have dual-core CPU? I don't think I'd put XP on anything with more than 1 core for serious use. Or maybe not, Vista wasn't that horrible from what I remember, though those memories are very faint. And such machine would be probably just collecting dust as I tend to use just one that does the most.

7 is considerably easier to handle than XP IMO.

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 21 Nov 2025, 20:20
Also using XP in general is nostalgic but a PITA; honestly.

Many years ago, it was all about XP. Who else knows about the cheat in XP version of Minesweeper?

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-27T23:31:07+00:00

I remember the Minesweeper cheat being a red pixel in one of the corners, but don't remember offhand just how to activate.

I had GREAT SUCCESS with XP **SIXTY FOUR BIT** (most users, in my opinion, "hear" XP and immediately think 32-bit) on a dual-core laptop and on two different quad-core desktops.

I no longer have the dual-core but those two decade-plus old quad-core's are doing JUST FINE (better, in fact!) on Win10 **2016** LTSB.
But my "newer" hardware gets Win10 **21H2**.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T00:22:37+00:00

I was never really that big into Minesweeper.
But you do have me thinkin'...
I recall backporting Vista's Mahjong/Chess/Hearts to play in XP. I need to see if I can "forward-port" them to Win10.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-11-28T08:09:13+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 28 Nov 2025, 00:22
I was never really that big into Minesweeper.
But you do have me thinkin'...
I recall backporting Vista's Mahjong/Chess/Hearts to play in XP. I need to see if I can "forward-port" them to Win10.

The Winaero team has already done that

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T10:26:58+00:00

Your link is not working.
It appears to be for this - https://winaero.com/get-windows-7-games-for-windows-10/

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T10:48:19+00:00

Sound doesn't seem to work in at least the Mahjong of those Win7 games for Win10.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T10:57:12+00:00

Uninstalled for now. The issue with sounds is cited several times in the discussion portion of that site. I'd prefer a version where sound works.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-28T15:56:52+00:00

teknixstuff wrote: * 28 Nov 2025, 08:09
The Winaero team has already done that

The-10-Pen wrote: * 28 Nov 2025, 10:26
Your link is not working.

Because direct linking is not allowed, you can download it from the main page:
https://win7games.com

There is also this pack of old games which are running on 64-bit systems:
https://archive.org/details/BestOfWindowsEntertainmentPack64Bit

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-28T15:58:49+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 28 Nov 2025, 00:22
I was never really that big into Minesweeper.
But you do have me thinkin'...
I recall backporting Vista's Mahjong/Chess/Hearts to play in XP. I need to see if I can "forward-port" them to Win10.

Shouldn't the XP games work on 10?

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-28T16:02:41+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 27 Nov 2025, 21:45
...Didn't you write somewhere you have dual-core CPU?...

You remember correct I do have a dual-core CPU dell optiplex 745 that came with XP preinstalled. AS I say I'm just hanging in there because its held together with crazy glue and duct tape Lol (Its on its 'last legs') ... only a matter of time on that one. My ancient Dell Dimension 3000 is VERY old and useless but I can print still on it and I use Arctic Foxie 360 Chrome on that one and MyPal68. Thank you for remembering, though.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-28T17:31:37+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 28 Nov 2025, 15:58
Shouldn't the XP games work on 10?

Yes they do, and even Space Cadet pinball

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-28T19:24:07+00:00

Duke wrote: * 28 Nov 2025, 17:31

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 28 Nov 2025, 15:58
Shouldn't the XP games work on 10?
Yes they do, and even Space Cadet pinball

I Know, Duke, so much fun and I never get sick of it Sorry .. I didn't realize your guys were talking about vista games

Windows 11 :: I have lost hope in Windows 11 :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-27T17:42:41+00:00

Even Microsoft admits that almost all major Windows 11 core features are broken:

https://www.osnews.com/story/143881/microsoft-admits-almost-all-major-windows-11-core-features-are-broken/

https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-we-see-all-the-backlash-and-we-know-we-have-a-lot-to-fix-in-windows/

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Windows 7 Lite :: Author Duke

2025-11-01T20:06:38+00:00

XenoPanther has made a 69 MB version of Windows 7 x86:
https://x.com/XenoPanther/status/1983477707968291075

But:

Quote:
You will need to provide your own system files to get even some of the most basic programs running.

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: AM4 boards Windows 7 compatibility list :: Reply by xYannikx

2025-11-17T12:47:59+00:00

Works: Gigabyte X570S Aorus Elite AX rev. 1.1 + Ryzen 9 5900X + Windows 7 x64

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: How to update W7 to the latest Security Updates :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-18T22:24:59+00:00

Version 25.11.11 is available:
https://blog-simplix-info.translate.goog/updatepack7r2/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US

Changelog:
Added KB5068904-x64 with disabling telemetry and processor checking (replaces KB5066872-x64)
Added KB5071810-x64 (replaces KB5056456-x64)

Windows XP & Server 2003 :: 5eraph UpdatePacks x64 v2019 :: Reply by hfuria

2025-11-02T20:15:43+00:00

The file (mrt.exe) is not updated, even after 2024-11-23 update.

The pack contains the follhowing file:
mrt.exe;
version: 5.38.12803.0
date: 216-06-30
syze: 144.749.672 bytes

But the last version compatible with windows 5.X is
mrt.exe
version: 5.39.12900.0
date: 2016-07-27
size: 147.640.136 bytes

The file is available at:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/uprl/2016/08/windows-kb890830-x64-v5.39_699bf47d2326fdd390f2f1770e1a982fa1538055.exe
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/uprl/2016/08/windows-kb890830-v5.39_1b2084eb641b136abcd3d438fda7ac6bdd145486.exe

Windows XP & Server 2003 :: 5eraph UpdatePacks x64 v2019 :: Reply by MilkChan

2025-11-11T13:14:47+00:00

hfuria wrote: * 02 Nov 2025, 20:15
The file (mrt.exe) is not updated, even after 2024-11-23 update.

The pack contains the follhowing file:
mrt.exe;
version: 5.38.12803.0
date: 216-06-30
syze: 144.749.672 bytes

But the last version compatible with windows 5.X is
mrt.exe
version: 5.39.12900.0
date: 2016-07-27
size: 147.640.136 bytes

The file is available at:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/uprl/2016/08/windows-kb890830-x64-v5.39_699bf47d2326fdd390f2f1770e1a982fa1538055.exe
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/uprl/2016/08/windows-kb890830-v5.39_1b2084eb641b136abcd3d438fda7ac6bdd145486.exe

I didn't add it because it blocks Windows Server 2003.

Windows XP & Server 2003 :: 5eraph UpdatePacks x64 v2019 :: Reply by hfuria

2025-11-15T14:28:08+00:00

I understood.

However, if an update block something else, it should be removed, instead of kept with an outdated version. As you had removed (hdaudbus.inf) you should also remove (mrt.exe).

I found another issue, when installing the slipstreamed cd using virtual machine:

"The Driver Software you are installing has not been properly signed with Authenticode(TM) technology. Therefore, Windows cannot tell if the software has been modifled since it was published. The publisher's identity cannot be verified because of a problem:
The installed INF filedoes not contain digital signature information.
Do you still want to install this driver software?
Yes | No | More Info"

After a research, i found that the file (syssetup.dll; 5.2.3790.4226) is the problem, and it should be patched to solve the problem.

After integrating 5eraph and other packs using RyanVM Integrator, i used nLite to integrate SATA drivers. And the tool also patched (syssetup.dll) as needed. I can send you the patched file if you want.

Windows XP & Server 2003 :: 5eraph UpdatePacks x64 v2019 :: Reply by MilkChan

2025-11-19T05:58:48+00:00

hfuria wrote: * 15 Nov 2025, 14:28
I understood.

However, if an update block something else, it should be removed, instead of kept with an outdated version. As you had removed (hdaudbus.inf) you should also remove (mrt.exe).

I found another issue, when installing the slipstreamed cd using virtual machine:

"The Driver Software you are installing has not been properly signed with Authenticode(TM) technology. Therefore, Windows cannot tell if the software has been modifled since it was published. The publisher's identity cannot be verified because of a problem:
The installed INF filedoes not contain digital signature information.
Do you still want to install this driver software?
Yes | No | More Info"

After a research, i found that the file (syssetup.dll; 5.2.3790.4226) is the problem, and it should be patched to solve the problem.

After integrating 5eraph and other packs using RyanVM Integrator, i used nLite to integrate SATA drivers. And the tool also patched (syssetup.dll) as needed. I can send you the patched file if you want.

I can't reproduce the problem. It hasn't happened to me again in the newer version, which has fixed the issue.
It might be because of rootsupd and rvkroots.
In 2024, I still don't know how to create it properly, and I'm still primarily using the EXE from Winrar.

try new version
https://mega.nz/file/3IhmTKrA#dBGkRqkHJAtHpVpcN_Zb4ZcsQnHlRQnX1-B-TaJEOfw

It's not related to hdaudiobus.cat.
I removed it because Windows Server 2003/x64 already has a file available in Driver.CAB.
HdAudBus.sys
HdAudio.sys
HdAProp.dll
HdAudRes.dll
HdAShCut.exe
just need to change the file path.
Try using it and see if the problem persists.

Windows XP & Server 2003 :: 5eraph UpdatePacks x64 v2019 :: Reply by MilkChan

2025-11-19T06:51:13+00:00

Update to Version Ver20250522

Windows 2000/NT :: Windows 2000 in your browser :: Author Duke

2025-11-18T21:37:33+00:00

Windows 2000 in your browser by Fabrice Bellard:

https://bellard.org/jslinux/vm.html?url=win2k.cfg&mem=192&graphic=1&w=1024&h=768

Windows 2000/NT :: Windows 2000 in your browser :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-19T00:11:05+00:00

I only used 2000 for a year and them moved on to XP but I enjoyed the simplicity - must be difficult in 2025 to do such.

TC

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: GTK4 would be better... :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-08T01:35:12+00:00

GTK4 would be better...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox build guide :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-08T02:02:52+00:00

Where you get the source code?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dupdate - (automatic) updater for r3dfox :: Author OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-14T12:25:50+00:00

Stop-gap measure until r3dfox gets a update server for now, kinda inspired by LibreWolf's solution to this issue
https://github.com/OwnedByWuigi/r3dupdate/

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dupdate - (automatic) updater for r3dfox :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-14T17:43:32+00:00

Sounds good, thanks

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dupdate - (automatic) updater for r3dfox :: Reply by popo

2025-11-14T23:46:15+00:00

pretty cool stuff, I was wondering if something like this existed, and now it does.

thanks!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2025-11-03T03:33:51+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: * 30 Oct 2025, 08:34

Ror3dfox wrote: * 30 Oct 2025, 02:01
Win 7
r3dfox 137
========

My old "News Paywall Bypass" which bypasses paywalls in newspapers and magazines, has stopped working. Anyone have an alternate suggestion?
https://gitflic.ru/project/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-clean-filters

What do I do with that script?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-06T04:43:49+00:00

Settings other than strict exist again.

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v144.0.2

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-06T14:53:39+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: * 06 Nov 2025, 04:43
Settings other than strict exist again.
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v144.0.2

Great, thanks!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Firefox 145 Release November 11 :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-07T08:32:40+00:00

Firefox 145 Release November 11
I'm looking forward to going back to the roots - custom!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-08T13:41:58+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: * 06 Nov 2025, 04:43
Settings other than strict exist again.
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v144.0.2

But when I select Custom it always resets to Strict after closing the browser. I have to select Custom every time I launch R3dfox

And I don't know if it's related or not but https://tinyurl.com doesn't fully load anymore, I only got the spinning wheel. It was working fine with previous versions of R3dfox and it's also working fine with Firefox 115.29 ESR.
Using the Fix sites issues options doesn't help.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-09T02:45:37+00:00

Duke wrote: * 08 Nov 2025, 13:41
But when I select Custom it always resets to Strict after closing the browser. I have to select Custom every time I launch R3dfox

I just realize the mistake, in (r3dfox dir)\config.cfg, the entry for browser.contentblocking.category uses pref instead of defaultPref. I'm not sure if this is required for it to be set by default, but it makes sense it would reset on boot. I'll see if changing this to defaultPref works, and if so then this should be fixed. For now just remove the line and it will stick with custom until next release.

Duke wrote: * 08 Nov 2025, 13:41
And I don't know if it's related or not but https://tinyurl.com doesn't fully load anymore, I only got the spinning wheel. It was working fine with previous versions of R3dfox and it's also working fine with Firefox 115.29 ESR.
Using the Fix sites issues options doesn't help.

So I took a look at that, and it appears to use WebAudio to fingerprint you, the user. If WebAudio is disabled, this fails, and it just decides fuck you and infinitely loads. If you really want to use the website, setting dom.webaudio.enabled to true fixes it.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Browser Privacy back to r3dfox-143 :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-09T08:27:45+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: *   09 Nov 2025, 02:45

Duke wrote: *   08 Nov 2025, 13:41
But when I select Custom it always resets to Strict after closing the browser. I have to select Custom every time I launch R3dfox
I just realize the mistake, in (r3dfox dir)\config.cfg, the entry for browser.contentblocking.category uses pref instead of defaultPref. I'm not sure if this is required for it to be set by default, but it makes sense it would reset on boot. I'll see if changing this to defaultPref works, and if so then this should be fixed. For now just remove the line and it will stick with custom until next release.

Duke wrote: *   08 Nov 2025, 13:41
And I don't know if it's related or not but https://tinyurl.com doesn't fully load anymore, I only got the spinning wheel. It was working fine with previous versions of R3dfox and it's also working fine with Firefox 115.29 ESR.
Using the Fix sites issues options doesn't help.
So I took a look at that, and it appears to use WebAudio to fingerprint you, the user. If WebAudio is disabled, this fails, and it just decides fuck you and infinitely loads. If you really want to use the website, setting dom.webaudio.enabled to true fixes it.

It would be better, if you take the Browser Privacy from to r3dfox-143!!!

I've had often problems, because of the fanatic security madness...
The sandbox of Linux for FF is such idea too..

Therefor I wrote:
I hope you are not changing to much

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-09T09:03:22+00:00

WebAudio was disabled less so to work around privacy and moreso to fix issues that can be caused by it, but it can help with both.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Multicore-Support :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-09T09:09:47+00:00

In the past there existed a project in FF for Multicore-Support - because of the fanatic security madness the project was cut out of FF!

Multicore-Support would be cool!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-09T09:10:35+00:00

I'm pretty sure modern Firefox has multicore support?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-09T09:25:31+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: * 09 Nov 2025, 09:03
WebAudio was disabled less so to work around privacy and moreso to fix issues that can be caused by it, but it can help with both.

Strange, but it would be better, if it would be a deactivable option under Browser Privacy!!!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-09T09:38:15+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: * 09 Nov 2025, 09:10
I'm pretty sure modern Firefox has multicore support?

In FFdev 115.0b9
under about:config the rest of it looks so:

multicore Boolean Number String

in r3dfox-144.0.1 nothing!!!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-09T09:39:42+00:00

Taiclaw wrote: * 09 Nov 2025, 09:38
In FFdev 115.0b9
under about:config the rest of it looks so:

multicore Boolean Number String

in r3dfox-144.0.1 nothing!!!

Can you send a pic?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-09T09:53:20+00:00

How to upload an image to the board?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-09T09:53:44+00:00

It's kinda broken just use catbox.moe for now.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-09T09:56:04+00:00

The board is currently very slow!!!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-09T10:09:18+00:00

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-09T14:12:14+00:00

K4sum1 wrote: * 09 Nov 2025, 02:45
I just realize the mistake, in (r3dfox dir)\config.cfg, the entry for browser.contentblocking.category uses pref instead of defaultPref.
For now just remove the line and it will stick with custom

Yes, that fixed it

K4sum1 wrote: * 09 Nov 2025, 02:45
So I took a look at that, and it appears to use WebAudio to fingerprint you, the user. If WebAudio is disabled, this fails, and it just decides fuck you and infinitely loads. If you really want to use the website, setting dom.webaudio.enabled to true fixes it.

That fixed it too
FYI to prevent fingerprinting I'm using CanvasBlocker extension:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/canvasblocker/

Tip: to allow smilies to work on this forum with CanvasBlocker add eclipse.cx to the Window API list by clicking on "+" and then remove its checkmark.
It should be the same with any other phpBB forum.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-09T14:26:14+00:00

Taiclaw wrote: * 09 Nov 2025, 10:09

It's asking you to create this key because no key containing "multicore" exists at all.
With the default about:config of R3dfox, which looks and acts like the "old" one, you need to right click on the board and then select New like this:

R3dfox-OldConfigNew.png

Or as a workaround: use about:confignew instead.

BTW I've checked several Firefox versions and also LibreWolf and Tor Browser and none of them has a key containing "multicore".

Attachments

R3dfox-OldConfigNew.png (4.13 KiB)

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-09T22:52:37+00:00

For real Multicore-Support there is a little much more work and you need to go in to the deep of FF!!!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-10T00:05:38+00:00

Taiclaw wrote: * 09 Nov 2025, 09:25

K4sum1 wrote: * 09 Nov 2025, 09:03
WebAudio was disabled less so to work around privacy and moreso to fix issues that can be caused by it, but it can help with both.
Strange, but it would be better, if it would be a deactivable option under Browser Privacy!!!

What all have you deactivated?

Give the user the choice to deactivate Options (include Autoplay) and at remaining Permissions and AI the choice to activate - then all are happy

Only a idea : AI under Permissions

I think it would be the best to take the Base from r3dfox-143 and make the changes in a better way!!!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-10T14:44:09+00:00

This Widevine tweak doesn't work anymore :
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6462#p6462
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6470#p6470
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6475#p6475

Now with R3dfox 144 the config keys and the content of the gmp-widevinecdm folder are always deleted on launch.
I understand that you don't want to enable it by default but I think this is quite lame to force us not to use Widevine with tweaks
So we have to use another browser for DRM content

BTW, I wonder if removing some media features could be linked to the playback problem some people are experiencing:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/68

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-10T23:12:32+00:00

I've replaced Profile folder.
After any change the Profile folder is rewritten and I must replaced it again.

At the moment - YouTube no problem.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: old FF/YouTube-problems :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-11T02:18:25+00:00

I know 2 old FF/YouTube-problems:
Frozen or dead videos caused by a bad internet connection or too much opened YouTube-sides!!!!

Sometimes a video resolution change help to reload...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-11-11T03:42:45+00:00

@Taiclaw,

Don't keep changing the title of your posts. It makes your post appear as though it were a different thread.

Cheers!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by flatrute

2025-11-11T04:49:41+00:00

Duke wrote: * 10 Nov 2025, 14:44
I understand that you don't want to enable it by default but I think this is quite lame to force us not to use Widevine with tweaks
So we have to use another browser for DRM content

DRM is evil anyway. One is better off owning those contents physically.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-11T05:22:40+00:00

flatrute wrote: * 11 Nov 2025, 04:49
DRM is evil anyway.

Maybe, but it exists. It's a fact.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, got strange :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-12T00:41:42+00:00

The discussion get strange....and r3dfox got strange too

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by JodyThornton

2025-11-12T00:45:14+00:00

flatrute wrote: * 11 Nov 2025, 04:49
DRM is evil anyway. One is better off owning those contents physically.

Yes, but if you want to stream a television news channel for example (like CP24 in Toronto), you need access to the technology. After awhile, I sometimes find ideologies can get in the way of doing everyday, practical work.

I don't choose Firefox for the privacy/anit-corp stuff; I use it because I can still customize the interface. I could never live with Pale Moon or New Moon stuff anymore. One needs to be able to browse the modern web, watch YouTube, and use online banking.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox - a current Win7 browser for daily use :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-12T00:48:46+00:00

I need a current Win7 browser for daily use!!!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-13T10:13:34+00:00

Taiclaw wrote: * 12 Nov 2025, 00:48
I need a current Win7 browser for daily use!!!

R3dfox can do that, so what is the problem ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-13T10:39:48+00:00

JodyThornton wrote: * 12 Nov 2025, 00:45
After awhile, I sometimes find ideologies can get in the way of doing everyday, practical work.

AGREED!

I only upgraded from XP (modified/tweaked over the years!) to 10 (heavily-tweaked) within the past ONE year.
So I skipped right over everything in the title of this thread (ie, Vista, 7, and 8).

I totally "get" the delicate balance between a "modern browsing experience" and running an OS that adheres to "ideologies".
(do not let MSFN know, but I am "NotHereToPlayGames", ie tweaker of 360Chrome from my XP Days)

Ideologies OFTEN get in the way and "hold us back".
I also had to just recently (as in mere days ago!) finally ditch (forever?) Serpent52 as a secondary browser.
My 360Chrome v13.0 still gets some use here and there as a secondary.

I like finding secondaries. Speaking for me, that is why I "follow" r3dfox, IceCat, Supermium, etc.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-13T10:58:38+00:00

Duke wrote: * 13 Nov 2025, 10:13

Taiclaw wrote: * 12 Nov 2025, 00:48
I need a current Win7 browser for daily use!!!
R3dfox can do that, so what is the problem ?

A normal version without problems caused of secerurity madness!
And now new ESRs and no non-ESR?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-13T14:06:08+00:00

Taiclaw wrote: * 13 Nov 2025, 10:58
A normal version without problems caused of security madness!

What do you mean ?
Version 144 rolled back to allow the custom settings of Enhanced Tracking Protection.

Taiclaw wrote: * 13 Nov 2025, 10:58
And now new ESRs and no non-ESR?

There have been ESR builds for a long time. Some people like to use them.
For the regular version please be patient. K4sum1 is doing all this work almost alone for all of us and he's doing it for free. We must all thank him.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-13T15:01:02+00:00

I miss:

In v143 a Bookmark Site with Location indicated - no problem, in v144 problem.

Custom is deactivated again after closing r3dfox!!!!

I want security.sandbox.content.level possible to set on 0 under Settings.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-13T20:16:17+00:00

Taiclaw wrote: * 13 Nov 2025, 15:01
I miss:

It's there in R3dfox 144, in both strict and custom modes. I can see them.

Taiclaw wrote: * 13 Nov 2025, 15:01
In v143 a Bookmark Site with Location indicated - no problem, in v144 problem.

What do you mean ? Please give more details.

Taiclaw wrote: * 13 Nov 2025, 15:01
Custom is deactivated again after closing r3dfox!!!!

Yes, known issue, the workaround is explained here:

K4sum1 wrote: * 09 Nov 2025, 02:45
I just realize the mistake, in (r3dfox dir)\config.cfg, the entry for browser.contentblocking.category uses pref instead of defaultPref.
For now just remove the line and it will stick with custom

In config.cfg remove this line: pref("browser.contentblocking.category", "strict");
and save the file.

Taiclaw wrote: * 13 Nov 2025, 15:01
I want security.sandbox.content.level possible to set on 0 under Settings.

Wow Why ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-14T04:28:32+00:00

Really?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-14T04:43:40+00:00

Duke wrote: *   13 Nov 2025, 20:16

Taiclaw wrote: *   13 Nov 2025, 15:01
I miss:

It's there in R3dfox 144, in both strict and custom modes. I can see them.

Taiclaw wrote: *   13 Nov 2025, 15:01
In v143 a Bookmark Site with Location indicated - no problem, in v144 problem.
What do you mean ? Please give more details.

A subpage containing the entered postal code and the corresponding store to choose to view the relevant brochure.

This subpage only works with a current browser!

Duke wrote: * 13 Nov 2025, 20:16

Taiclaw wrote: * 13 Nov 2025, 15:01
I want security.sandbox.content.level possible to set on 0 under Settings.
Wow Why ?

Because of less problems!!!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, ESR is now in security madness too! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2025-11-14T05:07:02+00:00

ESR is now in security madness too!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-14T17:37:56+00:00

Taiclaw wrote: * 14 Nov 2025, 04:43
A subpage containing the entered postal code and the corresponding store to choose to view the relevant brochure.
This subpage only works with a current browser!

I don't understand what you're talking about. Can you post a screenshot ?

Taiclaw wrote: * 14 Nov 2025, 04:43
Because of less problems!!!

What kind of problems ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Nobody

2025-11-16T15:47:56+00:00

Thank you for version 144.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by TSNH

2025-11-18T19:05:31+00:00

What is this "Strict" setting actually?
I always set cookies to custom and "All cross-ste cookies"

Is strict the same?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-18T19:12:53+00:00

TSNH wrote: * 18 Nov 2025, 19:05
What is this "Strict" setting actually?
I always set cookies to custom and "All cross-ste cookies"

Is strict the same?

I also do the same ... I disable all cross-site cookies ... I've been wondering the same thing

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-18T21:05:54+00:00

TSNH wrote: * 18 Nov 2025, 19:05
What is this "Strict" setting actually?

ETP-Strict.png

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-19T00:02:35+00:00

Duke wrote: * 18 Nov 2025, 21:05

TSNH wrote: * 18 Nov 2025, 19:05
What is this "Strict" setting actually?
ETP-Strict.png

Hi Duke ... unfortunately I don't think your picture (alone) best answers our question - What is the difference between "strict" [which] (as your picture indicates) blocks cross-site cookies VS "custom" and setting to block all cross-site cookies ... what is the difference ... is "custom" 'strict-er'? Of course Mypal68 has those same settings. When you get the chance, would/could you better clarify for us. Thank you in advance.

Sal

PS: Sorry about the multiple edits ... just sometimes its hard for me to get across what I'm thinking.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-19T09:17:55+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 19 Nov 2025, 00:02
What is the difference between "strict" [which] (as your picture indicates) blocks cross-site cookies VS "custom" and setting to block all cross-site cookies

I believe it's the same. Maybe the_r3dacted, ex K4sum1, can confirm that.

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 19 Nov 2025, 00:02
is "custom" 'strict-er'?

Custom allows you to "tweak" the settings while Strict doesn't. I've explained my choices in this post:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=7596#p7596

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-20T00:41:08+00:00

Duke wrote: * 19 Nov 2025, 09:17
...ex K4sum1, can confirm that...

"ex K4sum1" ... I guess I missed something and/or don't know what happened ... I just hope he is OK

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-20T01:18:20+00:00

Just name change, afaik strict should be the same as custom with everything enabled.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent UXP language packs Ver 2.0 and search engine setup tool :: Reply by cicyyang

2025-11-15T02:38:41+00:00

Download link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a9apIvaBX6x8cq9Tvd4CF4sLhqQQnsJz/view?usp=sharing

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-10T11:10:20+00:00

Mypal68 v74.1.3:

https://codeberg.org/Theodor2/Mypal68/releases/tag/74,1.3

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-15T02:40:02+00:00

Hmmm ... having issues with this one so I'll stick to XUL for the foreseeable future. Maybe its me or something but I'll try again when I'm more coherent ... just very foggy headed as of late. I hope others are having better success.

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-18T17:35:15+00:00

Mypal68 v74.1.4:

https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal68/releases/tag/74.1.4

Community ISOs :: smallest11 - Windows 11 21H2 in 34MB :: Author OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-23T15:03:04+00:00

https://my.peanits.co.uk/index.php/s/SEcyCmmNrxKiTDf

Absolutely nothing works, the Win32 subsystem is wiped out, this is more of a test of how far I can push NT to.

At least it boots. :3

Minimum requirements:
Pentium 4 (any, it's a 32 bit release)
256MB RAM if you want to run it live
128MB storage if you want to install it for whatever reason
68MB RAM once installed (you need to copy the BCDTemplate from WinPE, and the Boot folder from WinPE too for bcdboot to work at all)

Community ISOs :: smallest11 - Windows 11 21H2 in 34MB :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-23T16:46:38+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 23 Nov 2025, 15:03
Absolutely nothing works

Community ISOs :: smallest11 - Windows 11 21H2 in 34MB :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-23T21:52:07+00:00

I couldn't get it to load.
I only tried via VirtualBox v7.0 VM.

Community ISOs :: smallest11 - Windows 11 21H2 in 34MB :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-24T03:32:39+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 23 Nov 2025, 21:52
I couldn't get it to load.
I only tried via VirtualBox v7.0 VM.

Test on VMWare Workstation v16.2.5

Community ISOs :: Hybrid10 - Modern Kernel, Classic Experience :: Author OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-30T01:04:55+00:00

30/11/25 - BETA 1 NOW OUT! This is a basic preliminary 21H2 Win10 but with the main Telemetry and Update services disabled, and ex7 since yes
tldr-basically a bare minimum testing ISO, Beta 2 will be more like the final product
https://1drv.ms/u/c/35b1abe6940cbbef/ESvqB2-MMx9KjM2pVICiWBYBMJrJaq3aCR3P61tqljcmQQ?e=TgfDgm

Community Projects :: Will there be r3dTor? :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-20T21:35:22+00:00

FYI ESR 115-based Tor Browser is still alive:
https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-13525/

Downloads:
https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/13.5.25/

Community Projects :: Will there be r3dTor? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-24T03:18:09+00:00

wacker4315 wrote: * 08 Aug 2024, 05:18

TSNH wrote: * 07 Aug 2024, 15:31
Are you planning on making the Windows Vista/7/8 - compatible version of the Firefox 128 - based Tor Browser? How much work would that require?

And is it even possible without affecting the fingerprint?
Not to be too much of a securitytard but using Tor on outdated OS's seems pretty stupid to me, I avoid using stuff like that on windows at all and just use it on Linux.

I do the same and use Linux for that - but not all that often do I even use Tor unless I'm trying to watch something from another region. I never ever look at porn; never! I had to avoid all addictive behavior(s) beginning in 2017.

Community Projects :: Will there be r3dTor? :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-11-24T08:27:00+00:00

TSNH wrote: * 07 Aug 2024, 15:31
Are you planning on making the Windows Vista/7/8 - compatible version of the Firefox 128 - based Tor Browser? How much work would that require?

And is it even possible without affecting the fingerprint?

You could always just run the Tor daemon and use that with normal r3dfox. As for fingerprinting, it seems easier and more effective to ensure a random fingerprint (eg: via canvas poisoning), than trying to ensure your fingerprint matches everyone else's.

Community Projects :: Will there be r3dTor? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-24T20:46:40+00:00

teknixstuff wrote: * 24 Nov 2025, 08:27
...As for fingerprinting, it seems easier and more effective to ensure a random fingerprint (eg: via canvas poisoning), than trying to ensure your fingerprint matches everyone else's...

Thank you for the advice! Please if I may ... when you say "canvas poisoning" do you mean to use Pale Moon Or Lun3r (I use Lun3r but its getting a little outdated now - I hope it will be updated one day) and use the pref? Is there an extension that will 'poison' the canvas for each session? From what I understand (sorry if I come across as ignorant) blocking canvas won't help much.

Thank you in advance

Sal

Community Projects :: Will there be r3dTor? :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-24T23:40:43+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 24 Nov 2025, 20:46
when you say "canvas poisoning" do you mean to use Pale Moon Or Lun3r

Or just use this extension for Firefox or any of its forks including R3dfox:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/canvasblocker/

Github:
https://github.com/kkapsner/CanvasBlocker

Tip: to allow smilies to work on this forum with CanvasBlocker add eclipse.cx to the Window API list by clicking on "+" and then remove its checkmark.
It should be the same with any other phpBB forum.

Site Announcements and Guidelines :: Username change request thread :: Reply by popo

2025-11-14T14:23:48+00:00

garrystraityt wrote: * 09 Aug 2025, 20:59
If K4sum1 is unavailable for whatever reason, those seeking to change their usernames without having it public could also PM me. I will also be the one keeping track of username changes to make sure they're not changed too often (for anti-spam reasons)

given the text in your signature, why would they PM you only for you to ignore it? not everything has to go through Discord

also, what is this thread doing in the announcements forum? it should be in the feedback/suggestions forum

Site Announcements and Guidelines :: Username change request thread :: Reply by garrystraityt

2025-11-15T04:13:57+00:00

popo wrote: * 14 Nov 2025, 14:23

garrystraityt wrote: * 09 Aug 2025, 20:59
If K4sum1 is unavailable for whatever reason, those seeking to change their usernames without having it public could also PM me. I will also be the one keeping track of username changes to make sure they're not changed too often (for anti-spam reasons)
given the text in your signature, why would they PM you only for you to ignore it? not everything has to go through Discord

also, what is this thread doing in the announcements forum? it should be in the feedback/suggestions forum

For my signature, I completely forgot to update it when I set up email notifications on my main system. That one's entirely my fault

As per thread location, that was decided entirely by K4sum1.

General Chat :: Userstyles - Before and After :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-01T11:02:53+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 25 Jun 2025, 13:10
Or is it "just me" that spends so much time on userstyles, lol.

Probably. I haven't a clue how I'd want things to look otherwise and only visit few websites anyway.

I mostly used them to fix layout issues in Pale Moon.

General Chat :: Happy Halloween Eclipse Community :: Author xperceniol_sal

2025-10-31T22:54:58+00:00

General Chat :: Happy Halloween Eclipse Community :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-01T03:34:30+00:00

Almost slept through halloween lol

General Chat :: Happy Halloween Eclipse Community :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-01T12:11:29+00:00

General Chat :: Happy Halloween Eclipse Community :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-06T00:28:00+00:00

I hope you both at least enjoyed the TV programing.

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by popo

2025-11-14T22:31:09+00:00

[This user's post was redacted due to slander.]

General Chat :: MSFN :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-15T02:33:48+00:00

As far as I can see ... I"m NOT banned. I'm locked out because I have no idea what email I used to join and I don't really want to join again and start over because there really is nothing there that applies to me anymore and 'my time' was/is simply up over there for me at MSFN. At least I was honest over there LOL..........

General Chat :: Eclipse.cx | Jokes General Thread :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-17T12:49:22+00:00

General Chat :: Various videos :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-17T12:58:42+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qEOKGDKJSvk

Snake Transformation

General Chat :: Memes on Eclipse! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-11-14T17:27:47+00:00

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General Chat :: Memes on Eclipse! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-15T02:27:46+00:00

General Chat :: Memes on Eclipse! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-22T00:32:05+00:00

General Chat :: Memes on Eclipse! :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-22T17:49:39+00:00

Cold, isn't it ?
Don't go outside

General Chat :: One in 11 new Black Friday websites is malicious :: Author xperceniol_sal

2025-11-22T15:56:38+00:00

Retailers aren’t the only ones to want to make the most of Black Friday, it’s a boom time for scammers too. New analysis by Check Point reveals that one in 11 newly registered Black Friday-themed domains is classified as harmful.

October saw 158 new Black Friday related domains, a 93 percent increase over the 2025 monthly average. Early November intensified that growth, with more than 330 new related domains appearing in only the first 10 days.

Brand impersonation remains a primary tactic, with one in 25 new domains related to the reputable eCommerce marketplaces of Amazon, AliExpress, and Alibaba flagged as malicious. Attackers are deploying convincing fake storefronts that copy logos, layouts, and product imagery to capture credentials and payment data.

Check Point recommends that cybersecurity professionals take targeted steps to reduce exposure during peak shopping periods. These include monitoring spikes in newly registered domains referencing brands, retail terms, and predictable naming templates.

They should also deploy endpoint protections to block access to malicious or newly registered domains, prevent credential harvesting, and stop phishing sites before users interact with them. An external risk-management solution can continuously discover internet-facing assets, detect domain and brand impersonation, and automate takedowns of fraudulent infrastructure.

Businesses need to provide clear internal and external guidance outlining how to verify URLs and avoid seasonal phishing lures. In addition they should enhance fraud controls for payment workflows, including risk scoring for transactions originating from newly registered domains.

You can read more along with details of some specific scams on the Check Point blog.

https://betanews.com/2025/11/20/one-in-11-new-black-friday-websites-is-malicious/

General Chat :: One in 11 new Black Friday websites is malicious :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-22T17:47:23+00:00

Not to mention these sites which claim to offer 30% off, say $45, so the price is $31.5 but two months ago they were selling it at $30

General Chat :: One in 11 new Black Friday websites is malicious :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-23T19:41:27+00:00

Yeah, I can see that ... luckily I don't to buy gifts for anybody ... so much scamming going on out there and I"m glad I don't have a credit card.

General Chat :: One in 11 new Black Friday websites is malicious :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-24T22:05:04+00:00

I don't buy much and would likely go for known seller only. Supposedly malicious domains are very likely to be rather recently registered. Hard to be scammed if you're resistant against marketeers anyway.

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-17T12:40:26+00:00

Talamasca

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32596156/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talamasca:_The_Secret_Order

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-17T12:52:29+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 17 Nov 2025, 12:40
Talamasca

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32596156/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talamasca:_The_Secret_Order

My word this looks exciting. I'm searching for a free place to watch it (says sling and roku ... does that sound right?)

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-17T13:03:26+00:00

I haven't hunted for it on my Roku but most of my other AMC-through-cable-provider ends up on Roku a week or two later.
There is a total of six episodes and episode #5 was last night on AMC.
With all of the ads for #5 last night, I started at #1 and part of #2 and will eventually catch them all.
#6 comes out this coming Sunday, so I'll catch #1 thru #5 before then.
My cable provider has an "on demand" section where I can catch past episodes.

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-24T03:15:08+00:00

Criminal Minds

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-24T10:50:51+00:00

Finished all six episodes of season one for Talamasca.
Liked it so much that I hunted for a download of another Anne Rice series called "Interview with the Vampire".
Took my computer NINE HOURS to convert the first season from .mkv to dvd format.
FORCED myself (due to 9hr "investment") to watch all of episode one.
Shortly into episode two, I pulled the DVD from the tray and snapped the thing into several pieces!
FIRST TIME EVER that I ever snapped a DVD - didn't know how many tiny pieces it would end up in, lol.
Sorry, "live and let live", "to each their own", "yadda yadda yadda", but I was NOT expecting the ENTIRE PREMISE to be "what it is".
But that aside, Talamasca season one JUST ended - and I already CAN'T WAIT for season two.
FINGERS CROSSED that it doesn't "evolve into" what Interview with the Vampire is "all about".

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-24T20:50:52+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 24 Nov 2025, 10:50
...Shortly into episode two, I pulled the DVD from the tray and snapped the thing into several pieces! FIRST TIME EVER that I ever snapped a DVD - didn't know how many tiny pieces it would end up in, lol...

Oh dear I thought I was the only one to take out my frustration out on inanimate objects ... I have done that too

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-24T22:16:43+00:00

Oh it was calm, cool, and collected. Not really a "frustration". More of a "this is CRAP and I want it out of my house."
And, even more importantly, "I don't even want anybody picking it out of my TRASH and thinking I'm 'into' this sort of CRAP."

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-15T21:42:41+00:00

^Hmmm ... I don't know but you are right with the song and artist.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-22T01:41:22+00:00

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-22T15:51:04+00:00

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-26T01:16:01+00:00

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-01T09:03:04+00:00

Life is just incredibly boring at best and full of pain and suffering at worst.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-02T23:02:42+00:00

^Yeah, I know, I also have this void that I can't fill and I feel so empty inside. Just going through the motions during times like this. Things are changing here in the USA and not for the better.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-06T20:51:38+00:00

Took this week off. Guess it's still better than rotting in front of computer all day. It's slipping by really fast and I don't feel like myself. It's been a long time since I really was myself.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-08T16:48:35+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 02 Nov 2025, 23:02
Things are changing here in the USA and not for the better.

All that comes to mind reading / hearing "USA" are the baby raping dick cutters (https://thewholetruth.data.blog/2025/08/20/how-parents-pretend-to-care-for-their-sons/) and school shooters.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-09T00:34:33+00:00

Its sad and I just want peace but that is far in the distance.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-13T23:33:06+00:00

Glad Eclipse is back up ... I was starting to wonder for a moment!

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-13T23:50:50+00:00

All eclipses fade into darkness then come back into the light.
waka waka waka

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-15T02:31:03+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 13 Nov 2025, 23:50
All eclipses fade into darkness then come back into the light.
waka waka waka

LOL ...

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-15T14:03:49+00:00

Would you miss it, though? It's basically MSFN #2 with more primitive forum software. In the end, it all devolves to endless boring discussions of web browsers and how to download crap off YouTube with weird command line programs, all on crappy old Windows versions.

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 09 Nov 2025, 00:34
Its sad and I just want peace but that is far in the distance.

You need to move to another country.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-15T19:08:50+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 15 Nov 2025, 14:03
In the end, it all devolves to endless boring discussions of web browsers and how to download crap off YouTube with weird command line programs, all on crappy old Windows versions.

Yeah, basically.
It's almost like we wouldn't even have "forums" anymore if it weren't for folks using YouTube on XP!

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-15T21:38:48+00:00

Well ... I would miss the connections I've made with you folks here and from those form MSFN. My time was simply up over there anyway. I usually post more often on my autism forum and mental health forum nowadays to be honest. I don't have enough knowledge to help people all that often. I barely get by with what little I do know. Besides its good to chat now and again with people online since I have no life other than this but I guess given this toxic society I'd rather just keep to myself. Isolation is ideal for me. People upset me in public now. People are mean more so now that every I can recall sometimes so that I don't feel all that safe outside. Its cold here now and I can not walk outside and the people in this building are standoffish to older folks and I certainly don't look young anymore. Also I'm not in any shape mentally to deal with people now.

I wish I could move because this is not the way I expected to grow old in this mess; but I'm sadly stuck and I hate it.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-16T00:45:18+00:00

No life here either. Guess it would be emptier with one less forum to click on to. But still, nothing to talk about, really. (Lame) job, eat, sleep, repeat. I seem to be well underway to turning into bitter old man and it shows.

I don't "get" people, they might as well be other species. Looks have big influence and you will be judged harshly if you don't look certain way. I look like a serial killer at this point, so hardly approachable.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-16T14:24:03+00:00

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-16T22:38:29+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 16 Nov 2025, 00:45
No life here either. Guess it would be emptier with one less forum to click on to. But still, nothing to talk about, really. (Lame) job, eat, sleep, repeat. I seem to be well underway to turning into bitter old man and it shows.

I don't "get" people, they might as well be other species. Looks have big influence and you will be judged harshly if you don't look certain way. I look like a serial killer at this point, so hardly approachable.

I wish I knew what to say to help you, you seem like a nice guy just a lost soul and I can relate. Trust me ... you're not alone. I see that empty look in other peoples eyes and I know I have a vacant affect. Most of the time I'm out to lunch. I try to be (somewhat) engaging when I'm around people but I fail miserably. Even when I smile its fake but what else to do but fake it even if you aren't making it. This might come out of left field, but, are you the type that would consider having a pet? Fish? I used to have beautiful fish when I was growing up but where I reside now its not allowed otherwise I would certainly have fish again. A cute hamster maybe? Just tossing out what is coming to me as I type. Even I can't play computer games all the time as after a while that gets mundane. TV is so boring. I play the guitar (I haven't lately but I need to pick it back up). You can pick up a cheap guitar as the local pawn shoppe for 20 bucks and you might find you can get into it. I also don't get people anymore and here in the states things are getting pretty bad for timid guys like me.

On a brighter note, I do like that picture you posted. I would have liked your previous posting that that could mean I take pleasure on another persons pain and I know you're in pain. I tell you what, lets just make short term goals and keep going and not give up - there is a difference in 'giving in' and 'giving up' We can't beat the "system" on our own.

At least we are here for each other especially during this holidays when all we see are the fake hallmark card x mas pretentious phonies. My family is toxic and I'm glad to not be around them anymore, but I'll admit the holidays are tough for me. Honestly I try to sleep my way through it if I can. The only holiday I quite enjoy is Halloween but that is it. Those fake family gatherings are not to my liking. I mean, everybody is an asshole all year long and them all holly jolly and I can't drink anymore and everybody used to get trashed ... not for me. Besides I don't have the money to buy anything for anybody ... I get by with little means.

All that being said, I DO hope we can all catch a break soon; REALLY soon.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-19T21:48:29+00:00

I've always been lost. On one hand, I guess I'd want more out of this existence, on the other, I don't care about anything.

We have a dog and a hamster here. Many years ago, there was a dog and a bunch of cats, but that was a long time ago and I pretty much don't remember anything other than the fact. However the cats got along with the dog!

No more thoughts ATM, my head is empty as usual.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-20T00:49:09+00:00

Same ... always been lost and likely always will be searching for answers that will never come.

We're here for each other is all I can say. My brain has shut down to today.

....................

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-21T00:06:51+00:00

Just on auto-pilot as of late and I don't know if I'm coming or going ... all I can say is dust yourself off and try try again (keep going). I simply have no words - sorry.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-24T22:22:10+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 16 Nov 2025, 22:38
I try to be (somewhat) engaging when I'm around people but I fail miserably. Even when I smile its fake but what else to do but fake it even if you aren't making it.

It's rare that I'm talkative. It happened but it's all in the past and under specific circumstances. Adulthood is rather lame, not much to make of it.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-25T01:52:03+00:00

I'm only talkative online but in person I only speak when spoken to. Well at 53 (will be 54 in May) I'm not EVEN CLOSE to the person I once was growing up. Yeah, adulthood is just mundane; to me anyway. I was very outgoing in my late teens and early 20's until I had a severe mental breakdown that resulted in me becoming an agoraphobic with very very severe social anxiety and suicidal depression.

Sorry about the short message but I typed a long message and accidentally hit the back button and lost it. I'll try to write more later. Have a good one.

EDIT:

Ok I just thought of something. UCyborg ... and anybody else ... you are more than welcome to vent about anything in my thread. ANYTHING! If that helps you to get crap off your shoulders - sometimes I need to do that too. I don't always have the answers or any solid advice other than 'from the heart' advice and I do care; know that.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-11-27T22:09:53+00:00

Venting never addresses its cause.

Recent news said 53% voters on recent referendum voted against the euthanasia legalization law. Guess we're dying in pain and agony.

It also said Slovenes are dying out. Maybe anti-natalism is catching on?

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-27T23:45:56+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 27 Nov 2025, 22:09
...Guess we're dying in pain and agony...

Hate to say it, but I do get it. Existing hurts.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-28T15:55:37+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 27 Nov 2025, 22:09
...euthanasia legalization law....

Sorry ... I was in a dark place yesterday but I feel better now and I DO want to say I"m (truly) sorry you're in such a dark place that you're even thinking of such. I get it though; but still, bad for the psyche ... I hope you will manage to find a bright spot to grasp on to to lift your spirit even a little to get you by. As I say, I know that dark place more than you realize.

-Mister Blobfish

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-17T12:54:39+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-18T02:18:57+00:00

I'm trying to see if I can find a 'life' on sale somewhere ... I know I have a coupon in a drawer somewhere lol

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-18T19:16:03+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-20T22:47:56+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-23T19:38:20+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-25T14:51:29+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-25T18:46:08+00:00

I'm discovering how hateful people can be and its (truly) a shame since this is holiday season ... I don't know what makes a person hateful and how people can make room in their heart for anything but love ... I only have love in my heart and I care about other people. What a shame; really!

So I plan to enjoy a quiet time with myself this season (most everybody will be away thank God) and appreciate what I do have and not focus on what I don't. I don't have much compare to some, but I'm also not in the position where I would need to panhandle like I see others are. I'm just happy if I can afford to treat myself to a diet coke each day and I'm starting to walk again outside with my support workers. I've spent too much time wallowing in pity and not taking care of myself. I finally shaved after almost a month looking like a mountain man lol...........

Try to be kind and forgiving and humble ... what I think this toxic society is missing is humility. I know its not easy sometimes to battle depression and anxiety but we can get there eventually if we easy up on the stress.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-26T11:50:44+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 25 Nov 2025, 14:51

https://www.serenescreen.com

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-26T12:41:52+00:00

Pluto.tv has two live "fireplace" channels. Sit and watch a fire burn in the fireplace. One "crackles" but has a sh#tload of ambient noise like the mic is in a wind tunnel. The other plays various Chrismas music like The Nutcracker.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-28T15:57:25+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 26 Nov 2025, 12:41
Pluto.tv has two live "fireplace" channels. Sit and watch a fire burn in the fireplace. One "crackles" but has a sh#tload of ambient noise like the mic is in a wind tunnel. The other plays various Chrismas music like The Nutcracker.

I found it last night on Pluto (I use Pluto and Tubi a lot) and it was very nice. TY

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-11-28T19:26:35+00:00

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-28T13:03:27+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 10 May 2025, 18:49
Instead of a "what are you listening to", how about a "HOW are you listening" post?

I have a twelve year old 4th-gen i7 and I used to think that the only way to squeeze every drop of performance out of this twelve year old PC was to run XP.

BIGGEST MISTAKE I EVER MADE !!! Believing that MYTH on how awesome XP "is".
I ditched XP only just last year. I now run 2016's Win10. A tweaked and debloated self-created version using freebie tools available to ALL OF US.

I use "GridMove" and have one of my monitors set up to watch SEVEN videos ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
Another monitor reading/replying to emails.
Another monitor browsing and typing this post.

Dead serious. I watch SEVEN videos all at the same time! No stuttering, no lag, no buffering delays. All seven working flawlessly!
And mouse around over custom transparent "hover" controls to pause or mute to control which "one" I am listening to.
All while watching ALL of them.
Move to a different video when one of them is on commercial break. I don't need a remote to bounce around during commercials.

I could never do that on XP !!! No new hardware, just finally ditched XP and learned how to tweak 10!

ESK.png

How the HELL did you tweak 10 to only idle at 500MB RAM? Enlighten me!!!

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T13:20:10+00:00

You must use Win "1607" and nothing newer and no updates to the original "1607".
Then start removing all of the "baggage" by using NTLite and WinReducerEX.
Then some PowerShell scripts before you ever allow an internet connection.

I technically use Win10 2016 LTSB obtained from work, but the entire process carries over verbatim to "1607".

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-28T13:21:11+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 28 Nov 2025, 13:20
You must use Win "1607" and nothing newer and no updates to the original "1607".
Then start removing all of the "baggage" by using NTLite and WinReducerEX.
Then some PowerShell scripts before you ever allow an internet connection.

I technically use Win10 2016 LTSB obtained from work, but the entire process carries over verbatim to "1607".

What are said PowerShell scripts?

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-28T13:24:17+00:00

Also, would Windows Server 2016 work, since that is based on 1607?

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T14:06:49+00:00

Unsure on Server 2016 as I have never used that version of Windows.
If it is based on 1607 then I don't really see why not.
But again, purely speculative as I have no experience with Server 2016.

Disregard on 2016/1607 PowerShell scripts.
As I look closer, the only PS that I use in 1607 is to remove desktop.ini files during a post-install routine.
I use several in newer hardware laptops that run Win 21H2 due to hardware driver requirements.

Primarily added removals for Edge, Defender, Security Health, Get Started, Windows Backup, Windows Component-Based Servicing, various Task Scheduler tasks (Update Orchestrator, Defrag, Windows Updates, etc).

My 21H2 idles at 1.8GB but it is closer to 800MB-1.1GB before hardware drivers, would have to perform new install to verify.
But it was roughly 1.8GB "oem install" before any hardware so slimming it down was kind of a "break even" in the end.
But that hardware has 32GB to work with, so not as important as my 1607 hardware.

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T14:29:39+00:00

Found this. It's an "eval" so who knows, never used any "eval" version of Windows.

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General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by Duke

2025-11-28T15:44:29+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 28 Nov 2025, 13:20
You must use Win "1607" and nothing newer and no updates to the original "1607".

Problem is some procedures are only available in 1809 and higher, so some programs won't run on 1607.
Example: https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?t=910

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T15:58:35+00:00

None of that applies to me.
Only thing I ever encountered that requires 1809 is Microsoft's PowerToys (for FancyZones feature).
To me, that means DO WITHOUT and find a DIFFERENT program instead (I'm using GridMove for that FancyZones feature).
Sure, there will be a day when I can no longer use 1607. Same as when I was on XP for so long.

But for now, that day is not here and having a Win10 that only idles at 500MB RAM is **WAY** more useful to me.

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T16:02:16+00:00

And... The only other person to post an interest is also running "2016".

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T16:07:25+00:00

Here's what I'm showing as a "before" (no customizations).

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General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-28T19:02:02+00:00

My 2016 (and 2015) process did not work on Server 2016 - installation stalls at a license not found error.
No time to debug as I do not use Server 2016 and don't really see the need to invest more of my time into it at the moment.
I may return to it... Eventually... I may not... No real clue at this stage with only "one" interested party.

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by OwnedByWuigi

2025-11-29T14:34:23+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 28 Nov 2025, 19:02
My 2016 (and 2015) process did not work on Server 2016 - installation stalls at a license not found error.
No time to debug as I do not use Server 2016 and don't really see the need to invest more of my time into it at the moment.
I may return to it... Eventually... I may not... No real clue at this stage with only "one" interested party.

I just obtained a LTSB install instead, and stripped it down with my own mods (Superfetch off, Defender and Updates disabled, couldn't get NTLite working for some reason) and optimised Edge to only use 400MB RAM with YT open.

Idling at 1GB with a 32GB RAM system

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-29T16:31:28+00:00

I'll upload my LTSB files later this afternoon.
Note that "what works for me" is *several* passes.
First pass is a limited-algorithm WinReducerEX and *then* it goes through a pass with NTLite.
This remove items that cannot be removed with WinReducerEX alone.
I didn't debug into why. NTLite would only "work for me" AFTER it went through a WinReducerEX pass.

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-29T16:49:51+00:00

Actually, looks like there is no need.

My 32GB RAM machine idles at 1GB also, so you are "already there".
Processes: 36
Threads: 562
Handles: 11,963

My 16GB RAM machines idle at less.
Which is I guess kind of what Windows is "supposed to do".

General Chat :: How are you listening? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-11-29T21:06:48+00:00

I'd kind of have to reinstall from the ground up to verify.
But I'm thinking my OS even on 32GB machines idles at 500 to 650 MB or so *BEFORE* adding hardware drivers.
Once all the drivers are in place, them I idle at 1GB.
So mileage really kind of depends on hardware and just what hardware you're okay with not being "recognized".