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Compatibility Mods :: Realtek RTL8157 USB 5GbE Ethernet on Windows 7/8 :: Author the_r3dacted

2025-12-20T12:20:31+00:00

I had gotten curious about USB Ethernet adapters, and found RTL8157 based adapters are pretty cheap now. They can be found for below $20 on eBay and AliExpress, at least here in the US. I also noticed the Realtek drivers for Windows 7 and 8 list three device IDs for the RTL8157, but the entries are all commented out.

So I got one, and got testing, and found if you uncomment those entries, it just works. My main PC has been using an RTL8157 exclusively for over a month now and it's been fine. I'm not sure why these entries exist but are commented out if it works. Maybe someone could contact Realtek and get them to release a driver with these entries uncommented. (It would also be cool to get working XP/Vista drivers, but idk if that's asking too much.)

Since the process is so easy, I've opted to release the process on how to do it rather than release pre-modded drivers. Maybe it could be worth releasing modded drivers if someone could sign the modified inf.

Step 1: Get the drivers for your respective OS version from Realtek, https://www.realtek.com/Download/List?cate_id=585
Step 2: Extract the drivers, and the exe installer with 7-zip.
Step 3: Inside the driver installer is a Win7 or Win8 folder, and inside this folder are 64 and 32 folders. 64 for 64 bit, 32 for 32 bit. Open the folder for your respective OS and type. (This may also work for 32 bit, it has the same entries, but i have not tested it.)
Step 4: Edit the rtump*sta.INF, remove the `;` behind all the `RTL8157X` entries, and save.
Step 5: Install the drivers with device manager, https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?t=758 (Since the drivers are unsigned, you will need to do the have disk method, and for Windows 8, you will need to reboot in Disable Driver Signature Enforcement mode to install the drivers.)

Now you should have cheap and easy working 5GbE Ethernet on Windows 7+ on any USB 3 system. However do note you may get some duds. So far I have gotten four adapters, and two of them I have had to return. They showed issues even on Windows 10 and Linux. However for the price and the ease of returning dud products, at least here in the US, it's worth it for me. Also on the topic of Linux, we have a driver install guide for it too, located here.

It's also possible the RTL8159, 10GbE Ethernet, can be had this way too. Also commented out are entries for a "RTL815X", and these correspond to the RTL8159 device IDs, but I don't have the money yet to drop $70+ on an RTL8159 adapter that may not even work.

Compatibility Mods :: Running Python 3.9-3.11 based applications on Windows 7 :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-29T23:47:28+00:00

Python 3.9, 3.10, 3.11 and 3.12 for Windows Vista and 7:
https://github.com/vladimir-andreevich/cpython-windows-vista-and-7

Research Network :: Firewall program for manually allowing or blocking program network access :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-12-20T11:03:30+00:00

For Linux, I've found OpenSnitch to be basically what I want, Comodo on Linux. Wireguard works (although it's a pain) which is an improvement on Comodo on Windows where Wireguard just bypasses the firewall altogether. The only potential shortcoming is that I can't find any way to make a rule affect multiple different ports like making one rule for 80 and 443. But the solution is to just make one rule for 80, then make one rule for 443, which isn't too bad. I've also found Linux requires some extra rules for stuff to work that are not required on Windows. Will make a forum post about it when/if I get around to posting about my Comodo rules.

General Software & Hardware :: Best WiFI cards for Windows XP, Vista, and perhaps beyond :: Author the_r3dacted

2025-12-20T11:13:47+00:00

I was going to make a cool post about comparing WiFi cards on Windows XP with benchmarks and cool comparisons, but it basically only ended being one best card that worked by a margin large enough that testing is just not required. Maybe I'll do comparisons for curiosity sake, but not at this time. Everything else that I can find, Intel, Realtek, Qualcomm, are all 802.11n, while these Broadcom cards are all 802.11ac. This also means these Broadcom cards could also be the best cards for Windows 7 and 8 or equal to the other competition.

I had figured there was going to be more cards, but I discovered that even though the drivers install, both the DW1820A (BCM94350ZAE), and DW1830 (BCM943602BAED) just do not work on XP. They just give a Code 10, and in the case of the DW1820A after installing the drivers and rebooting, the device just disappears from device manager. Leaving behind an unknown PCI Device that also doesn't accept the driver. The card works fine in later operating systems though. These might be good for Vista+ if you know your system is not going to use XP.

This leaves the DW1550 or AW-CE123H (BCM94352HMB) for mPCIe and the DW1560 or 04X6020 (BCM94352Z) for M.2, both being standard two antenna or dual band cards. For three antenna or tri-band, there's the AW-CB160H (BCM94360HMB) for mPCIe.

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The DW1550 and DW1560 are for all intents and purposes the same card but different form factor, so there should be no noticeable differences in operation between them. If you have three antennas available though, the AW-CB160H may be the best option.

For obtaining the cards, I suggest getting them from AliExpress for the best price. Although you might be able to find them locally if you want a faster shipping time. These can be had for as cheap as $7-8, although it's rare to find the AW-CB160H for less than $20. At least in the US and of time of posting, the AW-CB160H is actually a better deal on eBay rather than AliExpress.

For the driver, I just use the default SDIO drivers. Here are the raw drivers for XP-10 since they are really hard to find outside of using SDIO. To install them, follow this guide. I recommend going with highest version number and have disk method.

The inf seems to suggest Broadcom kept NT5 support for longer than the last NT5 driver in the folder. Maybe this could get the DW1820A and DW1830 working, but I have no idea where to find such driver as the NT6 drivers use NT6 specific files. The latest NT5 driver appears to have been pulled from the ASUS PCE-AC56/68 and works on these cards, identifying them as the PCE-AC56 for 1550/1560 and PCE-AC68 for the AW-CB160H lol. Maybe could ask Broadcom themselves if they have the last NT5 driver idk.

Hope this helps, because this information was very hard to find, and I had to obtain the hardware myself to test it.

General Software & Hardware :: Wi-Fi and Bluetooth cards for Vista/XP x64? :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-12-20T11:15:18+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: * 09 Jun 2024, 23:04
I was working on a post about that, but it's kinda been paused.

Finally made that post. https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?t=925

General Software & Hardware :: Node.js for Windows 7 :: Author Duke

2025-12-29T23:48:46+00:00

Node.js v14, v16, v18 and v20 for Windows 7:
https://github.com/vladimir-andreevich/node.js-windows-7

General Software & Hardware :: Node.js for Windows 7 :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-12-30T13:35:17+00:00

Newer versions of node available at https://crackthemall.neocities.org/

General Software & Hardware :: Windows versions speed test :: Author Duke

2026-01-08T20:47:41+00:00

Windows XP vs Vista vs 7 vs 8.1 vs 10 vs 11 Speed Test. A speed test of every generation of Windows, the six major Microsoft operating systems since 2001.
And the loser is:
https://www.techspot.com/news/110817-windows-11-performs-worse-than-older-windows-versions.html

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VZJO-hOT4c

General Software & Hardware :: Windows versions speed test :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-08T21:36:56+00:00

Cool!
"Default config" setups have always been TERRIBLE.
I once had a tweaked-out XP host that would launch a tweaked-out Win10 VM at startup.
The host-tweaked-XP *PLUS* the guest-tweaked-10 VM would load, on same exact hardware, FASTER than "default config" 10 would load by itself.

There are some INTENTIONAL startup delays built into default-config 10 (actually in everything higher than and including 8).
I have to assume the delay was designed-in for a "reason". We call things like that a "race condition" at work.
Shave roughly 5 to 10 seconds on your startup just by this alone.
https://www.eightforums.com/threads/startup-delay-time-reduce-in-windows-8.37373/

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-13T19:54:32+00:00

Firefox 115.32 ESR is out:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.32.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.32.0/releasenotes/

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-12-19T22:52:40+00:00

Newer relative to DOS era. I haven't bought a serious computer in 16 years and AMD CPUs tend to be slower. Emulation is intensive.

Operating System Customization :: Post your Performance :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-20T15:02:32+00:00

Give it a try

Operating System Customization :: XPize :: Author idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-21T15:57:28+00:00

Have you guys heard of XPize? It was a visual mod for Windows XP that gave the Windows 9x leftovers a more XP-ish look, making the OS as a whole look more appealing. I've been using it for quite a while and it's been a blast.

Now I could show you guys some screenshots of it, but I can't be bothered to boot up my Windows XP VM. :p So instead here's a video from Michael MJD that covers everything in detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x01DWLn4L-E

Other Operating Systems :: How to install the RTL815x USB Ethernet drivers on Linux (Debian/Ubuntu based) :: Author the_r3dacted

2025-12-20T12:19:01+00:00

It was impossible for me to find any guide on how to install the drivers. The readme did not tell me how, nor could I find much searching. Until after searching a ton, I finally found something to go off of in an issue report.

To install the drivers, get them from Realtek, https://www.realtek.com/Download/List?cate_id=585 the "USB NIC Linux driver for kernel up to *"
Extract the drivers, open the extracted driver directory up in a terminal, and run these commands.

Code: Select all

sudo make
sudo make modules
sudo make install
sudo depmod -a
sudo update-initramfs -u

sudo make install
sudo depmod -a
sudo update-initramfs -u

reboot

`sudo make` compiles the driver, r8152.ko, `sudo make modules` compiles the kernel module for the driver (I think, I don't know what it does tbh), and `sudo make install` installs the driver. However for me I encountered an error, and also had to run `sudo depmod -a` and `sudo update-initramfs -u` to make it work. Don't know what they do really, but they make it work. Now running `sudo make install` again no longer has an error. The readme says to run the depmod and update-initramfs commands after installing the driver, so I run the commands again to be safe, and then I reboot. Now the driver works, at least for me in my setup, I don't know if it will work for you, Linux is weird and incompatible at the best of times.

You can check if the driver is being used, the network manager, at least for me, shows the driver in use for the network adapter. It should also show 5Gbps or anything other than the 800ish or so Mbps that it shows without the correct driver. You can also check the version with `modinfo r8152` in a terminal.

For each new kernel upgrade you make, you will need to repeat this process, if you update often, you will need to repeat this often. I don't know how or if this can be automated, Linux is weird and incompatible at the best of times.

For SEO purposes, I'm going to have to mention all applicable adapters here, as I suspect someone like me searching this will search `(adapter they have) Linux driver install guide` and not specifically for the rtl8152 or r8152, the name of the driver, which corresponds to a 10/100 adapter. RTL8152B RTL8153 RTL8153B RTL8153C RTL8153D RTL8153E RTL8154 RTL8154B RTL8156 RTL8156B RTL8156BG RTL8156G RTL8157 RTL8159

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: How do I get the weather widget working? :: Author idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-21T18:47:39+00:00

This may be a stupid question, but how do I get the weather widget working? It says that it cannot connect to the service, and yet I am seemingly unable to do anything about it. Can anyone help me with this?

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Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: How do I get the weather widget working? :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-21T21:52:25+00:00

Widgets for Windows 7 are so old that I wonder if the service or the URL your widget is using is still alive online

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: How do I get the weather widget working? :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-22T08:16:23+00:00

Duke wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 21:52
Widgets for Windows 7 are so old that I wonder if the service or the URL your widget is using is still alive online

I don't think the service is around anymore. The problem is that I can't seem to change the service provider.

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: How do I get the weather widget working? :: Reply by ThatRandomToast

2025-12-24T14:52:39+00:00

Use this gadget, it's mostly the same as Windows 7's built-in one and was also produced by Microsoft: http://win7gadgets.com/weather/weather.html

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: How do I get the weather widget working? :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-24T15:23:07+00:00

ThatRandomToast wrote: * 24 Dec 2025, 14:52
Use this gadget, it's mostly the same as Windows 7's built-in one and was also produced by Microsoft: http://win7gadgets.com/weather/weather.html

thanks

Windows Vista & Server 2008 R1 :: Crashes/BSODs at crcdisk.sys :: Author royziga

2026-01-08T13:49:17+00:00

These are my system specs:
Core i5-8400
Radeon RX Vega 56
MSI B360M PRO-VDH

I installed vista using the iso provided here (one with the extended kernel built in)
I installed it to a GPT sata drive
I removed my nvme drive and all my other drives
It still doesn’t go past crcdisk.sys
What shall I do?

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-21T15:26:46+00:00

I think Office 07 is the best version of MS Office. It can run on pretty much anything made in the past 15 years or so, it doesn't have any of the modern M$ nonsense that the modern versions of Office have, it's still fully usable to this day and it's also the prettiest looking version. I know many people are not fans of the light blue accent, but I think it's pleasing to the eye. It's certainly better than a bland white background. :p

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-12-21T21:35:47+00:00

None! Excel sucks at handling CSV files. Don't even get me started on Outlook's handling of ICS files.

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-21T21:44:11+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 21:35
None! Excel sucks at handling CSV files. Don't even get me started on Outlook's handling of ICS files.

lmao

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-12-22T08:00:51+00:00

Only Outlook could be so dumb to not update PUBLISHed (calendar) event and make a duplicate instead.

RFC 5546 wrote:
The "PUBLISH" method in a "VEVENT" calendar component is an unsolicited posting of an iCalendar object. Any CU may add published components to their calendar. The "Organizer" MUST be present in a published iCalendar component. "Attendees" MUST NOT be present. Its expected usage is for encapsulating an arbitrary event as an iCalendar object. The "Organizer" may subsequently update (with another "PUBLISH" method), add instances to (with an "ADD" method), or cancel (with a "CANCEL" method) a previously published "VEVENT" calendar component.

This doesn't work in Outlook, despite using UID referring to the previously published event and incremented SEQUENCE. Unless you use method REQUEST, which is not suitable unless actually dealing with invitations requiring response from participants.

Though Android version seems to work correctly in that regard. But that variant seems like a separate product from the Office suite.

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-02T18:55:03+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 16 Feb 2025, 12:18
Old thread, new member.
Up until about a year ago, I was on XP x64 and Office 2003.
Now that I'm on Win10 2016 LTSB, I run Office 2007.

I had to ditch Office 2007.
I'm now on an Intel Core Ultra 7 265 computer running Win10 Enterprise 21H2.

We all run Office 365 on Win11 at work (I can technically install on home computer [work provides 5 licenses], but I only install on home VM).
Shh! Don't tell the boss, but I have some Excel spreadsheet "time-filler-games".

For some reason, my macro .xlsm Sudoku spreadsheet keeps crashing Office/Excel 2007 on the new computer.
The same spreadsheet worked fine on Office/Excel 2007 running Win10 LTSB 2016.

Excel 2003 would run the spreadsheet just fine but the File Format Compatibility Pack only allows READ and no SAVE.

Excel 2010's title bar "cloud fade" BS [no clue what its real name is] has got to be the UGLIEST title bar I've ever seen !!!
So didn't even try any of my spreadsheets in it.
I've ran 2010 in XP before and I don't remember there being this UGLY title bar.
So unsure if just something newer versions of Windows "magnify" into outright UGLY.

I'm currently running a trial license (I think Microsoft calls it a "grace period") of Office 2013 that the office lab had in a "junk drawer".
Not really a fan of the gigantic "toolbar" but Office 2007 and Office 2010 were gigantic as well compared to Office 2003.

It's too bad that Office 2003 can't run .xlsm and still be able to SAVE.
Though as I write this, it didn't dawn on me to save the .xlsm as a 2003-version .xls.
If memory serves, macro or non-macro 2003-version is both same .xls extension.

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-02T19:22:42+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 18:55
Though as I write this, it didn't dawn on me to save the .xlsm as a 2003-version .xls.

Tried it. Didn't work.
Bumped into the same issue when I tried to run the .xlsm in LibreOffice.
LibreOffice has improved support for VBA macros but is still VERY FAR behind "real" versions of Office.
It's one of those "you get what you paid for" paradigms.
LibreOffice is great for VERY SIMPLE spreadsheets, but just falls flat on its face for anything "complex" in nature.

I don't really consider "conditional formatting" as complex, per se, but it seems to be the culprit in the sudoku .xlsm failing.
For both LibreOffice and Office/Excel 2003.

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by teknixstuff

2026-01-02T19:50:34+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 18:55
For some reason, my macro .xlsm Sudoku spreadsheet keeps crashing Office/Excel 2007 on the new computer.
The same spreadsheet worked fine on Office/Excel 2007 running Win10 LTSB 2016.

might you have different update levels of Office 2007 there?

The-10-Pen wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 18:55
Excel 2003 would run the spreadsheet just fine but the File Format Compatibility Pack only allows READ and no SAVE.

The 2007 compat pack for 2003 does allow loading and saving in both new and old formats. The option for saving in the new format is hidden at the very bottom of the "save as type" dropdown, but it is there.

The-10-Pen wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 18:55
Excel 2010's title bar "cloud fade" BS [no clue what its real name is] has got to be the UGLIEST title bar I've ever seen !!!
So didn't even try any of my spreadsheets in it.
I've ran 2010 in XP before and I don't remember there being this UGLY title bar.
So unsure if just something newer versions of Windows "magnify" into outright UGLY.

It only shows if you have desktop composition enabled.
In Windows XP, this is never the case (the feature does not exist).
In Windows Vista/7, this is only the case when using Aero (and it blends nicely there).
But since Windows 8, desktop composition is force-enabled and aero force-disabled, causing it to look bad.
There are various tools and methods to force the individual app to display without composition, which would restore the silver-ish titlebar found in XP.

The-10-Pen wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 18:55
I'm currently running a trial license (I think Microsoft calls it a "grace period") of Office 2013 that the office lab had in a "junk drawer".

see https://massgrave.dev

The-10-Pen wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 18:55
Not really a fan of the gigantic "toolbar" but Office 2007 and Office 2010 were gigantic as well compared to Office 2003.

There are various add-ins and plugins to restore the 2003-style toolbars to newer versions.

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-02T20:59:02+00:00

teknixstuff wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 19:50
might you have different update levels of Office 2007 there?

Impossible on my end. I have a very strong DISBELIEF in "updates".
I never (never!) do any updates. I do the install and run it as-is. DISABLE any-and-ALL "auto updates".
Been doing software that way for FORTY PLUS YEARS. *NEVER* been hit with any virus or trojan or malware!
I go so far as to INTENTIONALLY disable things like "spectre and meltdown" mitigations for the increased performance benefit of NOT running them.
Granted, that performance gain nowadays is close to 5%. But it used to be as high as THIRTY PERCENT.
Literally, make your computer "30% faster" just by NOT enabling spectre/meltdown mitigations.
I'm talking about 10+ year old computers. Newer computers aren't affected as significantly.

edit: Actually, I cannot claim 40+ years. I was big into "slipstreaming" XP updates and re-installing OFTEN.
But SLIPSTREAMING "update packs" aside, my computers avoid "auto updates" and HOSTS file is used to prevent software that doesn't have options to disable update-checks (ie, "phone home telemetry").

teknixstuff wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 19:50
The 2007 compat pack for 2003 does allow loading and saving in both new and old formats. The option for saving in the new format is hidden at the very bottom of the "save as type" dropdown, but it is there.

Cool! Not sure how I missed that over all these years.

teknixstuff wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 19:50
It only shows if you have desktop composition enabled.
In Windows XP, this is never the case (the feature does not exist).
In Windows Vista/7, this is only the case when using Aero (and it blends nicely there).
But since Windows 8, desktop composition is force-enabled and aero force-disabled, causing it to look bad.
There are various tools and methods to force the individual app to display without composition, which would restore the silver-ish titlebar found in XP.

Makes sense.
I was never a fan of Aero and it was one-of-many reasons that I never ran Vista/7 on my home computers and stuck with XP for as long as I did.

teknixstuff wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 19:50
see https://massgrave.dev

I'm familiar. I'm cautious as to on what forums I would admit that, lol.

teknixstuff wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 19:50
There are various add-ins and plugins to restore the 2003-style toolbars to newer versions.

I'll have to do some hunting. Any suggestions?

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by teknixstuff

2026-01-02T21:16:07+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 20:59
Impossible on my end. I have a very strong DISBELIEF in "updates".
I never (never!) do any updates. I do the install and run it as-is. DISABLE any-and-ALL "auto updates".

The-10-Pen wrote: * 02 Jan 2026, 20:59
edit: Actually, I cannot claim 40+ years. I was big into "slipstreaming" XP updates and re-installing OFTEN.
But SLIPSTREAMING "update packs" aside, my computers avoid "auto updates"

Microsoft released multiple different revisions of the Office 2007 discs and corresponding ISO files. Some of these have no updates applied, while others have SP1, SP2, SP3, and/or additional updates integrated into the ISO.

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by thecubis

2026-01-02T21:23:39+00:00

I like office xp/2007 but if i use Windows 7 or 8.1 i mostly used 2010 beckuse i think that version is more fitting for the os

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-03T00:25:10+00:00

I tried three different easily-found-via-Google TRIALWARE (was hoping for free) programs to return a 2003ish toolbar.
NONE OF THE THREE were worth "paying for" !!!

2003's toolbar was (for lack of a better description) the penthouse floor and the next floor down of a 100-floor skyrise building.
All newer Microsoft Office toolbars are the top *TEN* FLOORS *plus* the penthouse floor of the same 100-floor skyscraper.

Yeah, I know it can be "auto-hidden", but I don't like auto-hide, I want all of my buttons/icons *ALWAYS* visible.
I just don't want them taking up so many floors at the top of the building.

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by teknixstuff

2026-01-03T09:37:51+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 03 Jan 2026, 00:25
I tried three different easily-found-via-Google TRIALWARE (was hoping for free) programs to return a 2003ish toolbar.
NONE OF THE THREE were worth "paying for" !!!

2003's toolbar was (for lack of a better description) the penthouse floor and the next floor down of a 100-floor skyrise building.
All newer Microsoft Office toolbars are the top *TEN* FLOORS *plus* the penthouse floor of the same 100-floor skyscraper.

Yeah, I know it can be "auto-hidden", but I don't like auto-hide, I want all of my buttons/icons *ALWAYS* visible.
I just don't want them taking up so many floors at the top of the building.

Yeah, you're right, I just tried a few of those add-ins myself, and they're all quite bad. Perhaps I'll make my own alternative then.

Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-03T14:16:56+00:00

Office 2007 is clearly where things went to sh&t as far as toolbar real estate.
But it is also kind of basically the minimum version for modern hassle-free functionality.
2003 + Compatibility Pack seems fine and dandy, but also not exactly hassle-free if you deal with modern VBA macros.
Sure, I have a real-life physical Rubik's Cube, it's just much funner to spin them in macro-based Excel spreadsheets.

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Microsoft Office :: Which is the best version of MS Office in your opinion? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-03T17:10:58+00:00

Oops. My Office 2013 (161 pixels) accidentally included the VM file/machine/view/input/devices/help header.
No sense redoing it, call it ~142 pixels inline with Office 2007 and Office 2010.

Point is, the space being used by the toolbar keeps growing and growing and growing.
Before long, it will look like one of those web sites where the "legaleaze" crap at the bottom of the page takes up EIGHTY PERCENT of your screen.

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Microsoft Office :: Office 2003 AIO: All Updates, All Programs, All Addins :: Author teknixstuff

2026-01-11T21:37:35+00:00

Available from CrackThemAll (Microsoft/Office/en_office_11.0.8453.0_fullsuite.exe)
Office 2003, with every single update ever, both MS standard addins (Office File Format Validator + Office XML Compatibility Pack), and all the programs: Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Access, Publisher, OneNote, InfoPath, FrontPage, Visio, Project. Compatible Office Tab version also available.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox detected as ransomware on Avast :: Author realsaturos

2025-12-20T18:44:28+00:00

Hello,

I am using R3dfox 144.0.2, downloaded from https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases

After r3dfox is running a while Avast recognizes it as ransomware, because i tries to modify "desktop.ini" in the users documents folder.

I am using Windows 7 64-Bit.

a screenshot of the avast message is attached.

Does anyone know why r3dfox.exe is trying to modify the desktop.ini file?

PS: I did already send r3dfox.exe and its setup installer to avast for false positive check, a week ago, but it is still not resolved.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox detected as ransomware on Avast :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-20T19:20:57+00:00

realsaturos wrote: * 20 Dec 2025, 18:44
I am using R3dfox 144.0.2, downloaded from https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases
After r3dfox is running a while Avast recognizes it as ransomware, because i tries to modify "desktop.ini" in the users documents folder.
I am using Windows 7 64-Bit.

Does anyone know why r3dfox.exe is trying to modify the desktop.ini file?

That doesn't happen to me on Windows 8.1.
Do you save your downloads to the documents folder ? It might also be some extension.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox detected as ransomware on Avast :: Reply by realsaturos

2025-12-20T20:25:40+00:00

Hello Duke,

it happens on a completely fresh r3dfox installation.

I did not install any extension, and the Download Folder inside r3dfox settings is the default: C:\users\username\Downloads

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: R3dfox detected as ransomware on Avast :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-20T21:48:42+00:00

Looks like it's a known Firefox issue:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1948976

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/does-firefox-ever-write-to-logged-in-users-documents-folder/td-p/97020
https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/firefox-134-0-blocked-by-defender-needs-controlled-folder-access/m-p/94265

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Update r3dfox for security reasons :: Author glFox

2025-12-27T15:51:51+00:00

Greetings to the entire Eclipse Community,

I noticed that r3dfox does not have an automatic update procedure for either the portable or installable versions, and the manual update procedure is a bit inconvenient.

I would like to update r3dfox only when security flaws are serious and a patch is necessary: how can I know when serious security flaws have been fixed between one version and another, and ignore releases that, even if not applied, do not compromise the security of my system?

I hope you can help me. Thank you.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Update r3dfox for security reasons :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-27T19:52:57+00:00

There is this updater:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?t=906

The releases and the changelogs of R3dfox are there:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Update r3dfox for security reasons :: Reply by glFox

2025-12-29T15:28:31+00:00

Okay, thank you.

For details on security bugs and other fixes, I guess I can always refer to the official Firefox changelog available here:

https://www.firefox.com/en-US/releases/

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: Update r3dfox for security reasons :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-29T23:45:26+00:00

Yes

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Nobody

2025-12-16T00:14:21+00:00

Thank you for version 146.

The user string is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:131.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/131.0

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-16T11:58:08+00:00

Nobody wrote: * 16 Dec 2025, 00:14
The user string is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:131.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/131.0

Is it what is reported by this site ? :
https://www.useragentstring.com

If so, then in about:config check the value of the general.useragent.override key.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Nobody

2025-12-16T14:17:57+00:00

Quote:
Is it what is reported by this site ? :

Yes

Quote:
If so, then in about:config check the value of the general.useragent.override key.

The value is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:131.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/131.0
I adapted it.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-16T21:08:15+00:00

For the record, to avoid fingerprinting the best user agent, as of today, should be:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:146.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/146.0

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-16T21:17:36+00:00

I have a strange bug/annoyance with R3dfox 146 when I right click on the page back/page forward arrows at the top left corner.
When I slowly hover the pages history with my mouse several lines keep being highlighted at the same time:

R3dfox146-PagesHistory.png

This doesn't happen with Firefox ESR and LibreWolf.
I'm using the dark theme + the dark mode + Eclipse Purple.

R3dfox146-Visual.png

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-18T20:48:23+00:00

Firefox 146.0.1 has been released with several fixes:
https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/146.0.1/releasenotes/

as well as some security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2025-98/

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by mauro

2025-12-19T11:10:48+00:00

Is this worth it? I saw another guy did this in Firefox, I don't know if it would be worth doing it for you too

Disabled the integrated memory allocator jemalloc and adopted mimalloc.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-19T22:49:51+00:00

mauro wrote: * 19 Dec 2025, 11:10
Is this worth it? I saw another guy did this in Firefox, I don't know if it would be worth doing it for you too
Disabled the integrated memory allocator jemalloc and adopted mimalloc.

What are you talking about ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by mauro

2025-12-20T09:41:46+00:00

simply changing jemalloc to mimalloc seems like mimalloc consumes less resources and is faster

**Quick Answer:** Firefox primarily uses **jemalloc** as its memory allocator because it improves performance, reduces fragmentation, and handles multithreaded workloads efficiently. While **mimalloc** (developed by Microsoft) is another modern allocator with strong performance, Firefox has not adopted it as its default.

---

## Firefox and Memory Allocators

### What is a Memory Allocator?
- A memory allocator manages how applications request and release memory at runtime.
- It affects **speed**, **fragmentation**, and **overall stability** of programs.
- Common allocators: **jemalloc**, **mimalloc**, **tcmalloc**, and system defaults like `malloc`.

---

### Firefox and jemalloc
- **jemalloc** was introduced in **Firefox 3** to replace the standard `malloc`.
- It was designed by **Jason Evans** for FreeBSD and later adopted by Firefox.
- **Key benefits for Firefox**:
- **Reduced fragmentation**: Keeps memory usage more compact, lowering RAM consumption.
- **Better multithreading support**: Handles concurrent allocations efficiently.
- **Performance improvements**: Faster allocation/deallocation compared to system `malloc`.
- **Predictable scaling**: Works well under heavy workloads like rendering complex web pages.

---

### Mimalloc (Microsoft)
- **mimalloc** is a newer allocator created by Microsoft Research.
- It is **compact, fast, and consistent** across benchmarks.
- Outperforms or matches jemalloc, tcmalloc, and others in many scenarios.
- However, Firefox has **not switched** to mimalloc as its default allocator.
- Mimalloc is more commonly used in Microsoft projects and experimental builds.

---

## Comparison Table

Feature	jemalloc (Firefox default)	mimalloc (Microsoft)
Adoption	Widely used in Firefox, FreeBSD, Rust	Used in Microsoft projects, experimental adoption
Performance	Strong, optimized for multithreading	Very strong, often faster in benchmarks
Fragmentation	Low, stable under heavy loads	Very low, compact memory footprint
Maturity	Older, battle-tested	Newer, still gaining adoption
Integration	Deeply integrated into Firefox	Not default in Firefox

---

## Trade-offs and Considerations
- **jemalloc** is deeply integrated into Firefox’s architecture, making it reliable and stable for millions of users.
- **mimalloc** shows promising results but would require extensive testing and integration work before replacing jemalloc in Firefox.
- Switching allocators can affect **performance consistency**, **debugging tools**, and **cross-platform compatibility**.

---

In summary: **Firefox relies on jemalloc for its proven stability and performance. Mimalloc is a strong alternative allocator, but it’s not currently used as Firefox’s default.**

Would you like me to also explain **how jemalloc works internally** (its algorithms like arenas, bins, and slabs) so you can see why Firefox chose it?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-12-20T11:22:36+00:00

Not sure when I will get around to working on 146.0.1. Probably just a basic rebase and build, but then I'd want to also fix the menu issue, 140, and 128 at the same time, and I don't feel like all that right now in the middle of another project.

If you tell me how to do it, I will try changing jemalloc to mimalloc and see what happens, but you must tell me how to do it.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by mauro

2025-12-20T12:50:08+00:00

I don't know but AI assistants can help with this task, look at the copilot's answer on how to do it

https://copilot.microsoft.com/shares/TfqVqZh68fYsB3XP3Un38

If there are errors, showing the copilot an error, he will advise what could have gone wrong, etc.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-20T15:08:34+00:00

mauro wrote: * 20 Dec 2025, 09:41
Switching allocators can affect **performance consistency**, **debugging tools**, and **cross-platform compatibility**.

That means a hard testing is needed.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-20T19:15:24+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: * 20 Dec 2025, 11:22
Not sure when I will get around to working on 146.0.1. Probably just a basic rebase and build, but then I'd want to also fix the menu issue, 140, and 128 at the same time, and I don't feel like all that right now in the middle of another project.

I understand you are busy with another project but FYI e3kskoy7wqk has just released a 146.0.1 version so maybe that's not too much work to do for you for R3dfox

https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/releases/tag/146.0.1

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-22T22:57:06+00:00

Duke wrote: * 16 Dec 2025, 21:17
I have a strange bug/annoyance with R3dfox 146 when I right click on the page back/page forward arrows at the top left corner.
When I slowly hover the pages history with my mouse several lines keep being highlighted at the same time:

R3dfox146-PagesHistory.png

This doesn't happen with Firefox ESR and LibreWolf.
I'm using the dark theme + the dark mode + Eclipse Purple.

Similar bug reported here:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/95

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by BenjaminK

2025-12-24T07:23:28+00:00

BenjaminK wrote: * 26 Sep 2025, 02:15
Hello there,

I've started using the last x64 version on Windows 7 part of my retro-gaming rig and it feels great for now, but I did notice a small bugger : the three upper right options (Close, etc.) only appear when I activate the (main) title bar - as shown below. They'll still work, but are invisible...

Just a bump about another previously reported visual issue which is still there, as far as 146.0 with Windows 7 (64 bit) are concerned. My report on Github disappeared without an answer, so I thought it had been fixed one way or another, but no unfortunately...

Cheers,
Benjamin

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: New version wants a new profile :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2025-12-30T20:59:38+00:00

I'm using an older version of r3dfox. I can't see the exact version because I can't start it, but it's from January of this year

When I try to start it, I 'm getting an error message saying I need to use a newer version, which is fine with me, but it's telling me to create a new profile, which I must do or close the message. I don't want to lose my bookmarks, permissions, extensions, settings, etc. I used to do this with each new iteration of Firefox, but I've forgotten how.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: New version wants a new profile :: Reply by teknixstuff

2025-12-30T21:10:50+00:00

Ror3dfox wrote: * 30 Dec 2025, 20:59
I'm using an older version of r3dfox. I can't see the exact version because I can't start it, but it's from January of this year

When I try to start it, I 'm getting an error message saying I need to use a newer version, which is fine with me, but it's telling me to create a new profile, which I must do or close the message. I don't want to lose my bookmarks, permissions, extensions, settings, etc. I used to do this with each new iteration of Firefox, but I've forgotten how.

delete compatibility.ini in your profile folder. This error happens when you try to use a profile from a newer version on an older version.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: New version wants a new profile :: Reply by GoodConscience

2025-12-30T22:16:11+00:00

Ror3dfox wrote: * 30 Dec 2025, 20:59
I'm using an older version of r3dfox. I can't see the exact version because I can't start it

Inside the r3dfox main installation directory, where the r3dfox.exe executable resides, you'll find an .INI file called "application.ini"; this is a human-readable text file; open it with a text editor (or notepad) and you'll be able to tell the version of r3dfox you're using... E.g.

Code: Select all

[App]
Vendor=Eclipse Community
Name=r3dfox
RemotingName=com.eclipse.r3dfox
Version=140.0.4
Profile=Eclipse Community/r3dfox
BuildID=20250727162059

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: new version wants new profile :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2026-01-01T23:58:37+00:00

Removed compatibility.ini, but it still doesn't start. It's possible I tried to install the new version 2 weeks ago, but I'm not sure, so I messed up.

Application.ini looks like this:
; This file is not used. If you modify it and want the application to use
; your modifications, move it under the browser/ subdirectory and start with
; the "-app /path/to/browser/application.ini" argument.
[App]
Vendor=Mozilla
Name=r3dfox
RemotingName=r3dfox-default
Version=132.0
Profile=Eclipse Community/r3dfox
BuildID=20241028192013
SourceStamp=iloveneedingtobodgechangesetfornoreason
ID={ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}

[Gecko]
MinVersion=132.0
MaxVersion=132.0

[XRE]
EnableProfileMigrator=1

I'm getting many sites with blank pages lately, or ones telling me my browser is too old. I want the newest version, but I want to transfer over my bookmarks, extensions, settings, history, etc. I always did it with Firefox, but I've forgotten how.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-02T00:36:43+00:00

Ror3dfox wrote: * 01 Jan 2026, 23:58
Removed compatibility.ini, but it still doesn't start. It's possible I tried to install the new version 2 weeks ago, but I'm not sure, so I messed up.

I'm getting many sites with blank pages lately, or ones telling me my browser is too old. I want the newest version, but I want to transfer over my bookmarks, extensions, settings, history, etc. I always did it with Firefox, but I've forgotten how.

Maybe because of this:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/102

Quote:
apparently the previous version is still installed in C:\Program Files\Eclipse Community\r3dfox and if I launch r3dfox.exe from there, I get the previous version and all my history.

The new version installed itself in C:\Users\MyName\AppData\Local\Eclipse r3dfox\r3dfox.exe

Search for R3dfox folders on your HDD and you will find your old profile.
Or try to force the new version to install into the same folder as your old one.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: new version wants new profile :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2026-01-06T23:20:39+00:00

I downloaded v. 146 for Win7, haven't installed it yet. Should I copy these to my desktop before I install?
bookmarks,
extensions
settings (which file?
color scheme (which file?)
what else?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-07T00:26:57+00:00

Backup your whole profile folder.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by mauro

2026-01-09T10:24:15+00:00

What chance of hacking or stealing data when you turn off Specter protections in Firefox?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-09T10:56:05+00:00

mauro wrote: * 09 Jan 2026, 10:24
What chance of hacking or stealing data when you turn off Specter protections in Firefox?

You are going to think that I am being "sarcastic", but I assure you that I am not.

I myself disable, wholly and completely DISABLE, any-and-all spectre (and meltdown) "mitigations".
I've wholly and completely DISABLED them from DAY ONE (January *2018*!) !!!

Technically, they first appeared in mid-2017 !!!
Intel knew about the vulnerability. But did not inform the public until they came up with a "fix".
The public was "so-called" VULNERABLE for a good HALF OF A YEAR before they even knew that they were!

I have *NEVER* enabled ANY of these "fixes".
I have *NEVER* (and will never!) be "hit" by them!

We have these all the time. "Zero Day" out-in-the-wild.
Day 100 (just a random number) before the PUBLIC gets the "fix".
ONE HUNDRED days that you were "vulnerable".
ONE HUNDRED days that 99% of us were NOT AFFECTED.

Sure, there is that 1%.
And here's the sarcastic part - that 1% is the portion of the public spending 99% of their day on porn sites.
Spend 1% of your day on porn sites and you won't get hit. But 99% and you pushed your luck a little too far.

In a nutshell, DISABLE the Spectre protection. And don't visit porn or crack or hack websites and you will be just fine.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-09T10:59:28+00:00

Dead serious!
I'm the Geek of the Street.
Everybody that lives on my street has me fix their computer because all they know how to do is use it for email and solitaire.

ONE HUNDRED percent of the time, they got their virus or trojan or malware from PORN SITES.
I just have to bite my tongue and not reveal to them that in order for me to "fix" their computer, I stumbled into "histories" that they didn't think I'd see.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-10T00:12:14+00:00

mauro wrote: * 09 Jan 2026, 10:24
What chance of hacking or stealing data when you turn off Specter protections in Firefox?

Why do you want to tweak that ?
Just leave them to their default values.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-10T09:15:37+00:00

You're not really answering his questions.
You answered solely based on personal bias (like I did, admittedly).

There *ARE* legit reasons to *DISABLE* these sort of hype-and-propaganda so-called 'protections'.
REALITY is, there are very specific and statistically near-impossible circumstances that all have to be met in order to be truly at-risk.

Firefox *DOES* run FASTER with his settings moved to false.
There are BIOS-level and OS-level and browser-level "mitigations".

I leave it at the discretion of the user.
I simply submit that ALL THREE are simply NOT NEEDED in REAL LIFE.
Theoretical hype and propaganda aside.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-10T21:44:02+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 10 Jan 2026, 09:15
You're not really answering his questions.
You answered solely based on personal bias (like I did, admittedly).

I just asked why.
I believe if Firefox devs spent some time to work on this then there must be a good reason.

The-10-Pen wrote: * 10 Jan 2026, 09:15
Firefox *DOES* run FASTER with his settings moved to false.

Any examples ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-10T22:14:54+00:00

Duke wrote: * 10 Jan 2026, 21:44
Any examples ?

H#LL Yeah!
I ran a dozen tests this morning to CONFIRM. Firefox *IS* faster *without* the Spectre mitigations!
I didn't think anybody would be interested or at the very least assumed they would run the tests themselves.
I'll reinvent the wheel and grab screencaps this time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not "against" Spectre mitigations.
I'm simply stating that ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL.
The way that I use my computer, these mitigations are USELESS to me!
The performance gain in DISABLING them is MUCH more important!

I will have to screencap from my SCREAMER MACHINE.
So what is a 5% performance gain on THIS machine is MUCH BIGGER on less powerful machines.

This is an Intel Core Ultra 7 265.
Not the fastest out there, but this is by far the fastest I've ever owned.

And again, a 5% gain on THIS machine WILL be much BIGGER on less powerful machines.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-10T22:18:43+00:00

Quite seriously, the "average user" has higher odds of being struck by lightning than being affected by Spectre!

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-10T22:22:57+00:00

Give me about an hour to screencap the PERFORMANCE GAIN of disabling these mitigations.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-10T22:52:08+00:00

The browser test that most are probably familiar with (Speedometer 3.1) actually reports Firefox to be faster WITH the mitigations in place.
This is not the only browser test, just the one most are familiar with.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-10T23:02:16+00:00

JSBench reports Firefox faster *without* the mitigation.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-10T23:08:05+00:00

Speed Battle reports Firefox faster *without* the mitigations.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-10T23:17:11+00:00

Bearing in mind that those are ran from inside a VM.
Firefox isn't "allowed" to touch my HOST MACHINE

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-10T23:23:40+00:00

I'm going to stop at those tests. There are dozens of such online browser tests.
In general, Firefox does run *SLOWER* when you enable mitigations that strive to prevent lightning from striking your big toe.
I'm not saying the difference is night and day. But that also depends on the computer you are running.
The older the computer, the more adverse of a slowdown just to prevent something that literally NEVER HAPPENS "to the common user".

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-10T23:50:13+00:00

I should also report that Firefox **CRASHED** a half a dozen times just trying to get Speedometer 3.1 scores!
D@mn near threw my computer monitor out the window!
I'm sure this was a result of running from within a VM and getting THREE scores insread of just one, BUT MY CHROME v140 HAS NO CRASH ISSUES IN THE SAME VM!

But anywhooo...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-11T14:19:37+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 10 Jan 2026, 22:18
Quite seriously, the "average user" has higher odds of being struck by lightning than being affected by Spectre!

What is the source of this screenshot ?

The-10-Pen wrote: * 10 Jan 2026, 23:23
In general, Firefox does run *SLOWER* when you enable mitigations that strive to prevent lightning from striking your big toe.
I'm not saying the difference is night and day. But that also depends on the computer you are running.
The older the computer, the more adverse of a slowdown just to prevent something that literally NEVER HAPPENS "to the common user".

Yep, the differences are not clear and not that spectacular. Plus I'm not sure how does it affects our normal, regular daily browsing experience. One more second for loading a page ? Bah!
That said, I wouldn't recommend to anyone to disable these options since we don't really know what could be the side effects. It's up to each user to understand then to take and to assume the possible risks related to these options.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-11T14:24:12+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 10 Jan 2026, 23:50
I should also report that Firefox **CRASHED** a half a dozen times just trying to get Speedometer 3.1 scores!
I'm sure this was a result of running from within a VM

I guess it's because of the VM because I don't get any crashes at all with my Firefox, R3dfox and LibreWolf.
Maybe because of hardware acceleration ? Anyway, VMs don't act and don't react like real computers

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-11T14:41:15+00:00

Agreed. But VMs really are the ****ONLY**** way I ever run Firefox and most Firefox forks.
I do like IceCat and it is allowed on my host machine. I'm still at v115 and have not looked to see if there is anything newer.
The Linux distributions are updated more fequently than the Windows distributions.
And Linux (to me) is really just a "hobby project" no different than firing up the ol' Commodore 64 emulators for some nostalgic games.

Though I often feel like speaking against Firefox "herein" is grounds for detention.
Too many "fanboys" here.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-01-11T20:52:35+00:00

Duke wrote: * 11 Jan 2026, 14:24

The-10-Pen wrote: * 10 Jan 2026, 23:50
I should also report that Firefox **CRASHED** a half a dozen times just trying to get Speedometer 3.1 scores!
I'm sure this was a result of running from within a VM
I guess it's because of the VM because I don't get any crashes at all with my Firefox, R3dfox and LibreWolf.
Maybe because of hardware acceleration ? Anyway, VMs don't act and react like real computers

Because I'm on such low end failing hardware I have to completely turn off hardware acceleration on my systems and its less slow (notice I didn't say "faster") with is disabled. I have no experience with VM's and I still have a lot to learn even though I learned a lot from my days at MSFN when I joined in 2018 when I didn't know shit. I joined MSFN for Roytam1 back them when pale moon no longer supported XP. I really only came here for K4Sum1 because he reached out to me with concern.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-01-11T20:54:12+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 11 Jan 2026, 14:41
Agreed. But VMs really are the ****ONLY**** way I ever run Firefox and most Firefox forks.
I do like IceCat and it is allowed on my host machine. I'm still at v115 and have not looked to see if there is anything newer.
The Linux distributions are updated more fequently than the Windows distributions.
And Linux (to me) is really just a "hobby project" no different than firing up the ol' Commodore 64 emulators for some nostalgic games.

Though I often feel like speaking against Firefox "herein" is grounds for detention.
Too many "fanboys" here.

I also see Linux as more of a hobby, and, for me, a necessary evil but I don't like it. I don't own a smart phone and don't want one either.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-01-12T02:41:19+00:00

Duke wrote: * 11 Jan 2026, 14:24

The-10-Pen wrote: * 10 Jan 2026, 23:50
I should also report that Firefox **CRASHED** a half a dozen times just trying to get Speedometer 3.1 scores!
I'm sure this was a result of running from within a VM
I guess it's because of the VM because I don't get any crashes at all with my Firefox, R3dfox and LibreWolf.
Maybe because of hardware acceleration ? Anyway, VMs don't act and don't react like real computers

I don't use a VM and I have Mypal68 on 'bare metal' and no crashes here

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-13T01:37:32+00:00

I really do not browse with Firefox.
The only time it ever gets loaded (and always inside a VM) is for testing purposes.
Speedometer 3.1 would crash Firefox if only 4 GB RAM allocated for the VM.
4 GB RAM should be PLENTY for a browser (tab-hoarders aside) !!!
Firefox wouldn't even run "Kraken 1.1" and it's a MOZILLA test - https://mozilla.github.io/krakenbenchmark.mozilla.org/
Or maybe I just didn't WAIT LONG ENOUGH.
The test only takes a few SECONDS in Chrome.
In Firefox, it kept locking up on the first row of pink squares.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-13T02:12:55+00:00

And yeah, we can "blame" VM all we want. "Fair game".
I've been using VMs for the better part of TWO DECADES.
*NOTHING* is ever installed on my HOST without *first* being tested inside a VM.

Modus Operandi.
It really is a great way to keep your system CLEAN.
Install, test, uninstall - leaves too much garbage behind.
But install and test inside a VM then delete the VM when done, ZERO *garbage* left behind.

I didn't look into "why" Firefox kept crashing. Didn't really care, to be honest.
BUT that doesn't mean that FORKS would have crashed also.
I had a HELLUVA time ever getting Supermium to run when it first came out.
But recent versions of Supermium run just fine (again, INSIDE A VM).

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Ror3dfox

2026-01-13T02:52:17+00:00

Duke wrote: * 07 Jan 2026, 00:26
Backup your whole profile folder.

OK, backed it up, installed 137, and it found my old profile.
The one that came with the old browser is called
----default-default-1 (dated 6/1/2025)
and the one I use is
----default-default (dated 1/27/2025)
I don't think I want to know why.

It has stopped asking me for a new profile. I'll see if all websites are working properly.
Thanks, guys and ladies.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-13T14:25:50+00:00

Ror3dfox wrote: * 13 Jan 2026, 02:52
It has stopped asking me for a new profile.

Perfect

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-12-19T23:21:02+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251220-3219d2d-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20251220-3219d2d-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251220-3219d2d-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251220-d849524bd-uxp-b9f12b43c6-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2873 - Don't let toolkit override colors of autofilled form elements. (17d951328f)
- Issue #2861 - Part 1: Allow nsNPAPIPlugin::RunPluginOOP to be made false. (d2ab969724)
- Issue #2861 - Part 2: Restore nsIPluginHost.isPluginOOP. (69ebe8322d)
- Issue #2861 - Remove checks that forcibly enable or disable OOP. (e6d9cc0146)
- Issue #2875 - Cleanup: Remove leading whitespace in nsPluginHost.cpp. (372df4ebe7)
- Issue #2861 - Remove Mac-specific ifdefs. (108523f5fd)
- Issue #2875 - Ensure OOP for plugins by default even if pref couldn't be found. (cdab710ed0)
- Issue #2861 - Bring back forced OOPP for GTK3. (dd61d079b0)
- Issue #2861 - Part 2 Follow-up: nsIPluginHost.isPluginOOP should not always return true. (668296cf5d)
- [devtools] Further improve "Copy as cURL" (b3c406bb25)
- [js] Append InstSize factor for secondary range veneers. (81bcafc331)
- [DOM] Add stride check for canvas tex conversion from blob. (95e0feec7c)
- [devtools] Further improve "Copy as cURL" (68fa0f0d54)
- [image] Use the TriggeringPrincipal if we have one, not the SystemPrincipal (4667b7f4b0)
- [NSS] Destroy certificate on error paths (01d894938b)
- Issue Pale-Moon#2002 - Remove FreeBSD compat13x dependency on 15.x. Remove the 2 libutil OS_LIBS and dynamically load libutil.so instead. (2a2a85f888)
- Issue #2865 - Implement `URL.canParse()` (12e5c5c303)

Official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build:
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1979 - Use async callback to update cache UI (7e23650580)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1914 - Update several SSUAOs (da35b48afd)
- [Pale-Moon] Un-prefix -moz-user-select (06890bcb06)
- [Pale-Moon] Remove Instagram SSUAO (4265868605)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1987 - Use `overflow: clip` (88f220896b)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1954 - Reset `userTypedValue` if fragment navigating within a doc. (c167bc756f)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1991 - Add UI preference for reduced visual motion. (58648a77ad)
- [Pale-Moon] Update Windows version check caller after WindowsVersion.h updates. (f0d40ae44b)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 1: Update AppMenu icons (6933910ed5)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 2: Tweak Windows 10+ styling. (02fac4d52e)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 3: Remove italic style from AppMenu edit label. (f61835829a)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 4: Fix issues with the main toolbar. (5f2bc6123b)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 5: Slightly more breathing room for the window title. (1843e173cf)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 6: Overhaul caption buttons and add win 11 specifics. (ca7e904b27)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 7: Remove glass override for Win 10/11. (4af2abb312)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Part 8: Minor tweaks and update downloads button styling. (4e3531ed96)
- [Pale-Moon] No Issue - http -> https for start.palemoon.org default. (cdd4d99499)
- [Pale-Moon] Issue #1992 - Correct default non-compositing color on Win 11 to RGB 243. (549e05be0c)
- [Pale-Moon] Add Win11 styling in browser-title.css (442965e997)
- [Pale-Moon] Add id to viewToolbarsMenu's menupopup (c955ee0ac4)

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- [Pale-Moon] partly revert rev f0d40ae4 to fix build (b9f12b43c6)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-12-19T23:21:08+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20251220-40a79c75-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20251220-40a79c75-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20251220-id-656ea98-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20251220-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-b9f12b43c6-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-12-19T23:21:13+00:00

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-12-24T16:15:18+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251225-3219d2d-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20251225-3219d2d-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20251225-3219d2d-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251225-d849524bd-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251225-d849524bd-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20251225-d849524bd-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251225-d849524bd-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20251225-d849524bd-uxp-fd19819276-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2306: Implement WeakRef functionality (5eab8c0aff)
- Issue #2306: Add pref-gated WeakRef with safe stub when disabled (5895253f46)
- Issue #2306: Fix spacing (b9ded9c3dc)
- Issue #2306: Remove unneeded addition of streams_ in ContextOptions() (d43e57f885)
- Issue #2306: Add test js (c171ddeace)
- Issue #2863 - Part 1 - Update patches for ICU 78.1 (53662b13d8)
- Issue #2863 - Part 2 - Filter ICU data for build (d5bcbfd06b)
- Issue #2863 - Part 3 - Patch in non-dll suppression (fe4deee340)
- Issue #2051 - Part 3 - Use pre-built big-endian ICU data file for big-endian builds. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1264836 Disable unused ICU code during build. (7299df4737)
- Issue #2863 - Part 4 - Use recommended ICU build options flags. (759d7984c7)
- Issue #2863 - Part 5 - Update reading source objects (35cb857c80)
- Issue #2863 - Part 6 - Make ICU with multiple jobs for faster rebuilds. (72f6135946)
- Issue #2863 - Part 7 - Don't delete files now that they're filtered (c8491cff14)
- Issue #2863 - Part 8 - Add note to run `make_intl_data.py langtags` (5a3d10212f)
- Issue #2863 - Part 9 - Retain util_props.cpp (a8a1c5c250)
- Issue #2863 - Part 10 - Add New Line Breaker Entries (afa02844dd)
- Issue #2863 - Part 11 - Remove no longer needed locale maximization when removing likely subtags. (b31a7165e5)
- Issue #2863 - Part 12 - Filter SCRIPT_CODE extensions from CLDR (25caba3df9)
- Issue #2863 - Part 13 - Remove non-IANA Zones (77f1baf2ce)
- Issue #2863 - Part 14 - Update switch to handle new UNumberFormatFields entries. (f47df7a663)
- Issue #2863 - Part 15 - Update special casing script (98fc5db142)
- Issue #2863 - Part 16 - Update locale canonicalization algorithm for changes from CLDR 39 (3f06fa4c2a)
- Issue #2863 - Part 17 - Update ICU source to 78.1 (a29a80493f)
- Issue #2281 - Remove the use of non-standard namespace std::tr1 in Google's WebRTC gtest code (cf85580d6e)
- Issue #2863 - Part 18 - Update Unicode in Spidermonkey (852e690460)
- Issue #2863 - Part 19 - Update CLDR to 48 (666b590bd4)
- Issue #2863 - Part 20 - Update special casing in Gecko (ec13c2746d)
- Issue #2863 - Part 21 - Update Unicode property data in Gecko (42d7950b0c)
- Issue #2863 - Part 22 - Update tzdata source to 2025c (929b21c718)
- Issue #2863 - Part 23 - Update tzdata in Spidermonkey (f728497818)
- Issue #2863 - Part 24 - Remove special-casing for Etc/UCT (c77fea8760)
- emoji-17.0 - Update Twemoji font to unicode 17.0.0 (36a295e4ef)
- Issue #2857 - Implement `inset-block` and `inset-inline` CSS shorthand (5a832a6e24)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes picked since my last build:
- icu: restore pre-NT6 codepaths by reverting to old version with fixes, and fix v141_xp build (9f6727874f)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-12-24T16:15:25+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20251225-40a79c75-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20251225-40a79c75-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20251225-id-656ea98-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20251225-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-fd19819276-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2025-12-24T16:15:30+00:00

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20251225-e8bf1a87f-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20251225-e8bf1a87f-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- ported from UXP: Issue #2306: Implement WeakRef functionality (5eab8c0a) (6593da0bd)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2306: Add pref-gated WeakRef with safe stub when disabled (5895253f) (b07afbb3e)
- import from UXP: Issue #2306: Fix spacing (b9ded9c3) (d68445246)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2306: Remove unneeded addition of streams_ in ContextOptions() (d43e57f8) (df4c765a7)
- import from UXP: Issue #2306: Add test js (c171ddea) (223b2a470)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 1 - Update patches for ICU 78.1 (53662b13) (3a4140453)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 2 - Filter ICU data for build (d5bcbfd0) (67724cfb9)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 3 - Patch in non-dll suppression (fe4deee3) (3fada1a0e)
- import from UXP: Issue #2051 - Part 3 - Use pre-built big-endian ICU data file for big-endian builds. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1264836 Disable unused ICU code during build. (7299df47) (0a7458859)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 4 - Use recommended ICU build options flags. (759d7984) (7b5f67620)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 5 - Update reading source objects (35cb857c) (452b32a22)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 6 - Make ICU with multiple jobs for faster rebuilds. (72f61359) (b5331bdb6)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 7 - Don't delete files now that they're filtered (c8491cff) (8d43b8b12)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 8 - Add note to run `make_intl_data.py langtags` (5a3d1021) (d15c0dc7d)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 9 - Retain util_props.cpp (a8a1c5c2) (ca5715a00)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 10 - Add New Line Breaker Entries (afa02844) (8c4575973)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 11 - Remove no longer needed locale maximization when removing likely subtags. (b31a7165) (d59467deb)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 12 - Filter SCRIPT_CODE extensions from CLDR (25caba3d) (60e07b23a)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 13 - Remove non-IANA Zones (77f1baf2) (631486a72)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 14 - Update switch to handle new UNumberFormatFields entries. (f47df7a6) (0b6e69a35)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 15 - Update special casing script (98fc5db1) (6d0cdf00f)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 16 - Update locale canonicalization algorithm for changes from CLDR 39 (3f06fa4c) (fb4a3c5c9)
- import from UXP: Issue #2281 - Remove the use of non-standard namespace std::tr1 in Google's WebRTC gtest code (cf85580d) (c03434692)
- ported from `custom` branch of UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 17 - Update ICU source to 78.1 (a29a8049) and fixes (9f672787) (38bdf911b)
- gmp: stop unified build to avoid build bustage (757d587fe)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 18 - Update Unicode in Spidermonkey (852e6904) (6a04657eb)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 19 - Update CLDR to 48 (666b590b) (89b712a31)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 20 - Update special casing in Gecko (ec13c274) (f97d9374f)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 21 - Update Unicode property data in Gecko (42d7950b) (1fabdf19c)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 22 - Update tzdata source to 2025c (929b21c7) (d1aaae52d)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 23 - Update tzdata in Spidermonkey (f7284978) (ec0aa8a35)
- import from UXP: Issue #2863 - Part 24 - Remove special-casing for Etc/UCT (c77fea87) (8098de289)
- ported from UXP: emoji-17.0 - Update Twemoji font to unicode 17.0.0 (36a295e4) (8549af4bc)
- import from UXP: Issue #2857 - Implement `inset-block` and `inset-inline` CSS shorthand (5a832a6e) (7e09c7b47)
- dom/webrtc: explicitly exporting `NormalizedConstraintSet::Range::Merge()` to fix build (e8bf1a87f)

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-01-09T23:44:54+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260110-3219d2d-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260110-3219d2d-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260110-3219d2d-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260110-d849524bd-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260110-d849524bd-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260110-d849524bd-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260110-d849524bd-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260110-d849524bd-uxp-3e9ca11775-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #1791 - Part 1: Un-prefix `-moz-appearance` (a266b9852c)
- Issue #1791 - Part 2: Stop force-styling checkboxes/radio buttons. (f303711c59)
- Issue #1791 - Part 3: Add manual test for unprefixed `appearance`. (d40256d03f)
- Automatically determine current CLDR version when updating langtags. (0471f3bb8c)
- Sort replacements per language and per script to ensure the generated file has stable contents. (13b8ede31d)
- Issue #2853 - Leverage viewport-only logic to ensure overflow propagation. (0357516199)
- Issue #2856 - Make clearing of passwords prefable, and disable by default. (ea25057ec8)
- Issue #2887 - Convert use of -moz-appearance to appearance (1782eeb3bd)
- Issue #2871 - Restructure `GetEmojiPresentation()` for `Extended_Pictographic` clusters (f13f1bd96e)
- Issue #2871 - Addendum - Code Comments (ae2f12c3bc)
- Issue #2858 - Hack around the circular calls to `nsPrincipal::Write()` (99c3171426)
- Issue #2858 - keep type in line with definition. (ffd00e4056)
- Issue #2898 - Don't unroll to large stack probe loops. (628f7cd764)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-01-09T23:45:03+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260110-40a79c75-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260110-40a79c75-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260110-id-656ea98-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260110-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-3e9ca11775-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-01-09T23:45:09+00:00

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-22T02:01:51+00:00

Ok ... so, I've got 74.1.2 working pretty well (74.1.3 and .4 all close when typing in the address bar [keyword enabled]for no reason) but I need a ublock extension but the Firefox extensions page says the currently version is incompatible with Mypal. I tried UCyborg's ublock and it says the file is corrupt but I know its not because it works fine in NM28. Does anybody know what version will be compatible and where to find it?

Thank you in advance:

Sal

EDIT: I got bluehell firewall working so I guess I'm satisfied.

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-22T12:08:28+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 02:01
I tried UCyborg's ublock and it says the file is corrupt but I know its not because it works fine in NM28. Does anybody know what version will be compatible and where to find it?

Official uBlock Origin legacy is available here:
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy

You may also need to set xpinstall.signatures.required to false in about:config .

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-22T18:25:42+00:00

Duke wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 12:08

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 02:01
I tried UCyborg's ublock and it says the file is corrupt but I know its not because it works fine in NM28. Does anybody know what version will be compatible and where to find it?
Official uBlock Origin legacy is available here:
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy

You may also need to set xpinstall.signatures.required to false in about:config .

Thank you, Duke, but, sadly, no dice still. I even created a bolean for xpinstall.signatures.required and set it to false; but still, along with most of the ad blockers including UCyborg's version I get corrupt and I don't know why and I wonder if its a Mypal74 issue because I didn't have this issue with 68.14.7

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-22T20:21:27+00:00

Try this one which appears to be the latest version compatible with Firefox 68:
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases/tag/1.47.0

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-22T20:44:23+00:00

Duke wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 20:21
Try this one which appears to be the latest version compatible with Firefox 68:
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases/tag/1.47.0

Boomshakalaka ... that worked
Thank you very much for all your help.

Community ISOs :: Windows Vista Extended Kernel ISO :: Reply by Pingunix

2025-12-22T19:24:59+00:00

I tried this ISO, But I get an error after the first restart.

Windows could not start the installation process

Community ISOs :: The New Alpha XP Project X64 (Ver 1.0 Beta 1 Now Available) :: Reply by RedBeam

2025-12-24T07:15:57+00:00

Announcement: as this project is discontinued i would advise to archive what copys are left for safe keeping

Community ISOs :: Opening Up Development Continuation Of The Project :: Reply by RedBeam

2025-12-24T07:18:14+00:00

Announcement 2: along with that i would also like to announce that all current builds (1.1-all releases) are now free to update or build off of as a base to continue under a new name if wanted i have no connection to the project anymore and have opened it to all (but please follow microsofts eulu when building please)

Community ISOs :: The New Alpha XP Project X64 (Ver 1.0 Beta 1 Now Available) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-24T19:44:14+00:00

RedBeam ... does this mean you're going to stay with us and help others when you can? You give good advice! I see you put up a nice avatar so that is promising. Anyways, always good to see you and I hope tomorrow is nice for you.

Community ISOs :: The New Alpha XP Project X64 (Ver 1.0 Beta 1 Now Available) :: Reply by RedBeam

2025-12-26T23:20:48+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 24 Dec 2025, 19:44

RedBeam ... does this mean you're going to stay with us and help others when you can? You give good advice! I see you put up a nice avatar so that is promising. Anyways, always good to see you and I hope tomorrow is nice for you.

as much as i want to come back i wont be. ive moved on to linux and chromeos and more open-source options and have not much interest in windows anymore i only use windows 11 on my main rig for gaming purposes now the iso that still exist of my project can be used by other to continue it as other projects if they wish but there are no plans to continue development anymore

Community ISOs :: The New Alpha XP Project X64 (Ver 1.0 Beta 1 Now Available) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-27T01:35:29+00:00

RedBeam wrote: * 26 Dec 2025, 23:20

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 24 Dec 2025, 19:44

RedBeam ... does this mean you're going to stay with us and help others when you can? You give good advice! I see you put up a nice avatar so that is promising. Anyways, always good to see you and I hope tomorrow is nice for you.

as much as i want to come back i wont be. ive moved on to linux and chromeos and more open-source options and have not much interest in windows anymore i only use windows 11 on my main rig for gaming purposes now the iso that still exist of my project can be used by other to continue it as other projects if they wish but there are no plans to continue development anymore

I understand and you'll be missed here. Good luck with everything and I wish you happiness with whatever you endeavor. I've always wondered about ChromeOS but my systems won't run that heavy of an OS. I hope somebody else will continue with your former project and respect your wishes. I'm proud of you.

Community ISOs :: [MOD] Windows Code Name Obsidian (Windows 7 to Strange Windows Beta) :: Author jtech0000

2025-12-30T05:23:13+00:00

A rather strange Windows 7 beta found on the internet...

Notes:
• Based on Windows 7 Ultimate with SP1
• Windows Media Player 11 (From Windows Vista)
• Internet Explorer 8
• Themes and Wallpapers from Windows 7 Beta
• Some Changes in Logon Screen and Gadgets
• Changes to the Windows Installer and OOBE
• Icons from Windows Longhorn, XP, 2000, Vista and 7 Beta
• User avatars from Windows 7 Delta and Windows Vista
• Sample Music, Pictures and Videos from Windows Vista/7 Beta
• Apps from Windows 7 Beta

Thanks to:
• J-Tech (formerly JestarDevil) - For developing the mod
• Legofan and Aurorarion - For icons and themes
• ThePhantom, Microsoft, and idk who - For Windows Longhorn-style icons
• Aurorarion - For help with system resources, WMC customization, and just for modding advice
• mortimer - For startup and shutdown sounds
• ThatRandomToast, Spin, and others - For testing the mod
• You - For installing this ISO image.

Screenshots (Remaster):

Screenshots (Legacy):

Downloads:
Remaster: https://archive.org/details/Codename_Obsidian
Legacy: https://archive.org/details/Build7508

Community ISOs :: [MOD] Windows Code Name Obsidian (Windows 7 to Strange Windows Beta) :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-30T21:36:32+00:00

jtech0000 wrote: * 30 Dec 2025, 05:23
A rather strange Windows 7 beta found on the internet...

Notes:
• Based on Windows 7 Ultimate with SP1
• Internet Explorer 8

Quite strange indeed. In the About Windows window we can see version 6.0 which is Vista and year 2008. Windows 7 is version 6.1 and came out in 2009.
And in my Windows 7 SP1 with all updates Internet Explorer is version 11, not 8.

Community ISOs :: [MOD] Windows Code Name Obsidian (Windows 7 to Strange Windows Beta) :: Reply by ThatRandomToast

2025-12-31T07:03:27+00:00

Duke wrote: * 30 Dec 2025, 21:36

jtech0000 wrote: * 30 Dec 2025, 05:23
A rather strange Windows 7 beta found on the internet...

Notes:
• Based on Windows 7 Ultimate with SP1
• Internet Explorer 8
Quite strange indeed. In the About Windows window we can see version 6.0 which is Vista and year 2008. Windows 7 is version 6.1 and came out in 2009.
And in my Windows 7 SP1 with all updates Internet Explorer is version 11, not 8.

Downgrading Internet Explorer is possible

Community ISOs :: [MOD] Windows Code Name Obsidian (Windows 7 to Strange Windows Beta) :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-01T12:35:48+00:00

ThatRandomToast wrote: * 31 Dec 2025, 07:03
Downgrading Internet Explorer is possible

I guess you mean upgrading

Community ISOs :: [MOD] Windows Code Name Obsidian (Windows 7 to Strange Windows Beta) :: Reply by jtech0000

2026-01-12T09:45:29+00:00

NEW UPDATE!

Windows Code Name Obsidian REMASTER | HOTFIX v1.1

Notes:
• Changes in basebrd.dll
• Built-in script that removes Take Ownership

Download

Community ISOs :: windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260 :: Author mauro

2026-01-08T16:19:12+00:00

my custon iso of windows 11 21h2 lite

removed defender
removed edge

disbaled mitigation cpu

instaled startallback
instaled openshell
instaled firefox
instaled visual c++ runtimes

download

https://www.mediafire.com/file/1035xo8981eatux/w11+21h2+lite+english.iso/file

Community ISOs :: windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260 :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-08T20:10:05+00:00

Speaking solely for myself, I don't want the .iso, I would rather have the "guide" and "config files" and list of programs used to CREATE the .iso.

I only use Win11 21H2 from inside a VM and processes/threads/handles shows I gain nothing in swapping to your release.
BUT that doesn't mean I wouldn't LEARN SOMETHING from your config files and list of programs that the .iso simply doesn't teach me.

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Community ISOs :: windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260 :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-08T20:12:55+00:00

And, no offense, but I *hate* StartIsBack/StartAllBack and how it always seems to land in "lite" OS's.
To each their own, of course. I just achieve LIGHTER "lite" *without* Start Is|All Back.

Community ISOs :: windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260 :: Reply by HJY-2Best

2026-01-12T05:28:33+00:00

Thanks so much for your "Windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260" upload & I personally love StartISBack & StartAllBack, but hate Open Shell. Regardless though ...I have access to (plus the newest other Windows Lite version builds) another custom build Windows 11 21h2 Lite 22000.3260 release that has had all the Bloatware, Telemetry, Windows Defender & misc. other removed that is only approx. 1.4 gig. It's stable, more secure & runs fantastic without any errors.

I used to make my own ...but said custom Lite Windows OS releases are so much better than mine, I don't even bother trying anymore.

Community ISOs :: windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260 :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-12T10:35:53+00:00

The included Firefox is not in English on this release.
If you want "lite" and don't want to do the work yourself, there are MUCH LITER versions.
Windows X-Lite does a really great job - https://windowsxlite.com/

Community ISOs :: windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260 :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-12T10:38:24+00:00

re: StartIsBack/StartAllBack/OpenShell/Firefox - none of them should be included, in my opinion.
Just release a Windows that is ALL WINDOWS, just remove the d@mn bloat, don't ADD *ANYTHING*.

Community ISOs :: windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260 :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-12T10:49:06+00:00

Personally, I think if we all put our heads together and SHARE our METHODS, we can do an equal or better job than Windows X-Lite.

Placing blind trust in an .iso with zero knowledge of who/how it was created, you might as well download it from a known malware site and infect your computer with every trojan known to exist.

We are called Eclipse **COMMUNITY**... ie, let's WORK TOGETHER and create our own "community build" and PUBLICLY SHARE "how" we created it!
To me, that at least creates something that can be **TRUSTED**.
ie, why "trust" an ENGLISH .iso when the included FIREFOX is **NOT** in English ??? ??? ???

Community ISOs :: windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260 :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-12T10:56:37+00:00

Me personally, the second I launched Firefox and saw it NOT in ENGLISH, the very first thought in my mind was:
UH OH, WHAT HACKER DID I JUST GIVE MY IP ADDRESS TO?

Community ISOs :: windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260 :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-12T11:25:32+00:00

HJY-2Best wrote: * 12 Jan 2026, 05:28
Thanks so much for your "Windows 11 21h2 lite build 22000.3260" upload & I personally love StartISBack & StartAllBack, but hate Open Shell. Regardless though ...I have access to (plus the newest other Windows Lite version builds) another custom build Windows 11 21h2 Lite 22000.3260 release that has had all the Bloatware, Telemetry, Windows Defender & misc. other removed that is only approx. 1.4 gig. It's stable, more secure & runs fantastic without any errors.

I used to make my own ...but said custom Lite Windows OS releases are so much better than mine, I don't even bother trying anymore.

You said "another" and underlined it.
I have to assume you are *NOT* talking about the .iso being discussed here.
Can you share WHERE your "another" was obtained from ???

Because it can NOT be this one. For one, you site 1.4 gig.
Clearly *NOT* the .iso being discussed here.

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Site Announcements and Guidelines :: Contributing to Eclipse Community :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-12-22T00:50:17+00:00

Edit: This has been resolved for 2026. This post has been left up for historical purposes.

If anyone has some spare Bitcoin, I've created a Bitcoin address, and I need ~30USD very soon (by the end of the month) to pay for the domain. If anyone has this amount in Bitcoin or knows a friend that does, I would appreciate it if you could donate it to keep the website up pls.

I made this custom receive address, maybe it plays well with your wallet client idk how this works tbh.

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bitcoin:bc1qspettke6rpnzwhgnl9wwmuqte5cm462wz4n9ww?amount=0.00034&message=Pay%20for%20eclipse.cx%20domain%20%28pls%29

The raw address is

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bc1qspettke6rpnzwhgnl9wwmuqte5cm462wz4n9ww

I ask for Bitcoin because I doubt you would want to give me your credit card details.

Or if you're willing, you could pay for it directly instead of sending it to me to then pay for it. If you have Bitcoin (BTC), Ethereum (ETH), Bitcoin Cash (BCH), Litecoin (LTC), Dogecoin (DOGE), Ripple (XRP), or Polygon (POL), you could do it that way. Send me a message if you're interested in this pls.

Site Announcements and Guidelines :: Contributing to Eclipse Community :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-22T12:14:37+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 00:50
idk how this works tbh.

I don't know either
I'm not using any cryptocurrency at all so I hope that by quoting your post someone will help you quickly, that would be a nice Christmas gift

Site Announcements and Guidelines :: Contributing to Eclipse Community :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-12-23T01:59:29+00:00

I just had someone donate and I was able to get the domain renewed.

They wish to remain private, and I will respect that.

I'll merge the crypto address into the thread and edit the post to reflect that it's resolved for this year.

Site Announcements and Guidelines :: Contributing to Eclipse Community :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-23T10:46:37+00:00

Site Announcements and Guidelines :: Contributing to Eclipse Community :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-23T23:59:20+00:00

General Chat :: Post your desktops here! :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-21T11:32:00+00:00

Might as well show y'all my Compaq Presario CQ56's setup. It ain't much, but it could be worse I guess. :p

(If you can't see the image then just tell me and I'll try to fix it.)

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General Chat :: Post your favorite cars/car brands. :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-21T15:48:27+00:00

I would kill to have a Mercedes W201 as my daily driver and a 1967 Camaro SS as my weekend car. Those are my 2 dream cars.

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General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-20T21:52:58+00:00

Hi, I'm an 18 y/o albanian who loves old stuff in general, old cars, music, computers, stuff like that. I'm pretty shy and might not be able to be active all the time, but I'll try my best to be an active member. I've always wanted to experience what it's like to be part of an active forum, and I hope to make a lot of friends. (that probably won't happen tho ) Anyways, that's it. If you wanna learn more about me I've placed some more info on my bio. Bye for now. :3

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-21T00:03:13+00:00

Hi and welcome to Eclipse

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-21T00:56:20+00:00

Welcome to Eclipse!

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-21T05:31:15+00:00

idkwhatnametoputxd wrote: * 20 Dec 2025, 21:52
old cars

Look into STUDEBAKER !!!

The thing to think about when diving into OLD CARS is like what a coworker told me years ago when I said I liked Julia Roberts.
His reply was, "Do you? Or do you just like her because Hollywood tells everyone to like her?"

I don't remember his exact words.
But it ties in with OLD CARS.

ie, something like "Do you like Corvettes? Or are you just liking what everybody else says you should like?"

Me? I *hate* Corevettes. I *hate* Bel Airs. I *hate* Mustangs.
Okay, "hate" is not the right word.

Point is, don't like something just because everyone else likes it.
Me? Give me a STUDEBAKER HAWK or AVANTI.
Only 19,000 Hawk's were made in 1956.
Only 3,800 Avanti's were made in 1963.

Compared to 105,000 Bel Air's in 1956.
Or 21,500 Corvette's in 1963.

ie, do you "like" the Bel Air? Or is it just something you "remember" because it was JAMMED DOWN OUR THROATS by MASS PRODUCTION, a DIME A DOZEN because they are ALL OVER THE PLACE?

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-21T08:53:42+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 05:31

idkwhatnametoputxd wrote: * 20 Dec 2025, 21:52
old cars
Look into STUDEBAKER !!!

The thing to think about when diving into OLD CARS is like what a coworker told me years ago when I said I liked Julia Roberts.
His reply was, "Do you? Or do you just like her because Hollywood tells everyone to like her?"

I don't remember his exact words.
But it ties in with OLD CARS.

ie, something like "Do you like Corvettes? Or are you just liking what everybody else says you should like?"

Me? I *hate* Corevettes. I *hate* Bel Airs. I *hate* Mustangs.
Okay, "hate" is not the right word.

Point is, don't like something just because everyone else likes it.
Me? Give me a STUDEBAKER HAWK or AVANTI.
Only 19,000 Hawk's were made in 1956.
Only 3,800 Avanti's were made in 1963.

Compared to 105,000 Bel Air's in 1956.
Or 21,500 Corvette's in 1963.

ie, do you "like" the Bel Air? Or is it just something you "remember" because it was JAMMED DOWN OUR THROATS by MASS PRODUCTION, a DIME A DOZEN because they are ALL OVER THE PLACE?

This post really resonates with me, as someone who prefers the less popular stuff in general. I don't really tell most people what I really like because I'm always afraid that I'm gonna be made fun of for not following the crowd. Hell, I've even had people say that I "hate everything popular" multiple times, just because I thought that some things were overrated. It's gotten so bad to the point that I have to LIE about my preferences, just to stop being treated like a moron, which is wrong but I can't really do anything about it.

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-21T11:06:03+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 05:31
I *hate* Mustangs.

Ah, come on!

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-21T12:55:46+00:00

Duke wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 11:06

The-10-Pen wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 05:31
I *hate* Mustangs.
Ah, come on!

A dime a dozen. All over the place. NOTHING SPECIAL about a Mustang!

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-12-21T13:58:44+00:00

There's nothing I particularly like to the point it'd be even worth talking about, so I don't have that problem.

Especially people...because they all want you to submit to their cults...

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-21T21:46:29+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 12:55
NOTHING SPECIAL about a Mustang!

Most Mustangs are not special, especially the modern ones. But the Shelby GT350 from 1965-66 and maybe 1967 IS special!

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-22T00:35:41+00:00

Duke wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 21:46
Most Mustangs are not special, especially the modern ones. But the Shelby GT350 from 1965-66 and maybe 1967 IS special!

Sure... To an extent. But in that vain, I'll take a "Shelby Goes Like Hell". Google that one.

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-22T12:04:03+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 00:35
I'll take a "Shelby Goes Like Hell".

WOW! One of the ugliest cars I have ever seen

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-22T12:11:17+00:00

The Omni, yes. But I still like the Shelby Charger.

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-22T12:12:47+00:00

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-22T12:17:24+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 12:11
The Omni, yes.

Indeed!

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-22T12:38:46+00:00

I never owned either.
But did own a Plymouth Horizon (twin to Omni).
42 miles to the gallon on a rebuilt carbureted non-turbo in the late 80s!

I tried to buy a Shelby Charger a decade or so ago.
Rented a truck and went three states away to look at it.
The seller picked me up and we were heading to the barn where it was stored.
The idiot was speeding, passing SCHOOL BUSES when kids were being dropped off, never stopped at stop signs!
I JUMPED OUT OF A MOVING VEHICLE TO GET OUT OF HIS CAR !!!
Was walking the street of an UNKNOWN TOWN trying to find where the place we agreed to meet.

JUMPED OUT OF A MOVING VEHICLE TO GET OUT OF HIS CAR !!!

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-22T13:33:06+00:00

Weren't the Omni/Horizon and 80s Charger just rebadged Mitsubishis?

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-22T13:45:48+00:00

Nope, Horizon/Omni/Charger were never fitted with Mitsubishi engines.

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2025-12-22T14:04:51+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 13:45
Nope, Horizon/Omni/Charger were never fitted with Mitsubishi engines.

Oh, I could've sworn they were based on some Mitsubishi models but oh well :p

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2025-12-22T14:20:21+00:00

You're thinking of "Diamond Star Motors" joint venture.
Was after the Horizon/Omni/Charger.
ie, the Talon/Eclipse/Laser/Stealth years.

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-22T20:11:20+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 14:20
You're thinking of "Diamond Star Motors" joint venture.
Was after the Horizon/Omni/Charger.
ie, the Talon/Eclipse/Laser/Stealth years.

Ah, right. Thanks for the heads up.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-17T01:09:46+00:00

I figured I'd take the chance to write this evening.

I'm actually doing very well tapering off the Valium. I was at 12.5 MG a day and now I'm down and holding steady on 2.5 MG a day and this is amazing for me. My stress level(s) have allowed me to do such. My anxiety is still there but hasn't been too bad. I'm playing Christmas music now to try to get in the spirit and I plan each day for 9 more Christmas songs in RebBeam's thread until the 25th. I guess I do miss my old friends from MSFN and I'm currently locked out of that forum ... but I understand people change and need to move forward in their own lives seeing they are very young with their whole lives ahead of them and I'm too old. I feel abandoned though still I feel like I did something wrong to chase them away. I have 1 online friend I chat with most every day and without him I'd be very lonely. I know this is a busy time of year for some folks that need to buy gifts ... so glad I don't have to do that.

Anyways, I feel the agoraphobia kicking my butt lately and when I do go out I can't wait to get back home where I'm safe from the harsh society. I'm too timid for this world. I can't help that I'm sensitive guy.

I like Monday. Sometimes the days blend into each-other now. I guess I'm glad I'm far removed from society as I don't fit in anymore and I'm too old to change - and I really don't what to change for other people - I need to just be "me" take me or leave me.

Ok, its about 8:10PM and I plan to watch TV and maybe play some games on the computers. This computer is on its last legs and its 'any day' for it. I do have my Dell Dimension 3000 that is in great shape because it doesn't get much use, but with only 2 GB of RAM its hard to enjoy anything worth while and adjusting the pagefile doesn't seem to do much so I let the XP handle the pagefile. Browsing the web is tricky. I use Arctic Foxie 360 and Mypal68.14.7 on that one as I plan to stick with XUL for the foreseeable future. Someday they want me on a smart phone and I don't want one ... I'd prefer to keep my ancient flip phone for the rest of my life but the association doesn't like people to use a computer and I'm one of very few allowed to do such here and I know not to break the trust.

Today I'm in a lot of pain but mentally I feel strong and (somewhat) positive and I hope it lasts.

I hope others here are managing as best as can be. Never give up - Give in but don't give up.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by cloudstr

2025-12-17T06:19:48+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 17 Dec 2025, 01:09
I use Arctic Foxie 360 and Mypal68.14.7 on that one as I plan to stick with XUL for the foreseeable future

Understandable, but i suggest you update Mypal to version 74.1.3 (v74.1.4 having issues loading videos in private mode). I noticed atleast 10% to 20% improvement in performance, pages load faster and more responsive than v68.14.x

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-17T07:58:56+00:00

This is on my *2007* oldest-holdout computer. Intel Core2 Quad Q6700 @ 2.66 GHz with 4 GB RAM.

360Chrome v13.5 and Mypal 68.14.7 both score between 29.4 and 32.6 on Speedometer 2.1.
Within margin of error of each other but Mypal 68 is *slightly* faster.
BUT... Mypal has to use quite a bit MORE RAM. Also Mypal MEMORY LEAKS if not closed periodically.
BUT... 360Chrome has to run the CPU at a HIGHER PERCENTAGE. Not by much, but higher is higer.

Slight trade off. I personally prefer 360Chrome.

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General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-17T08:18:19+00:00

Here is what I get pitting Mypal 68.14.7 directly with 74.1.3.
As far as CPU and RAM goes, the two are IDENTICAL, no significant difference.

Speedometer 2.1 goes from 32.4 to 33.6 on my 18yr old Q6700.
No real performance gain, in my opinion.
BUT... YES, 74.1.3 does score EVER SO SLIGHTLY higher than both Mypal 68.14.7 *and* 360Chrome v13.5.

However, in my view, the difference in performance is so SLIGHT that *personal preference* between all three should be the deciding factor.
Which GUI do you like best? Which feel more "ergonomic" to your usage? et cetera...

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General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-17T08:34:21+00:00

For me, all three basically run neck-in-neck.
TERRIBLY SLOW on this 18yr old Q6700, but all-in-all, neck-in-neck.
Mypal 68 is always the slowest of the three.
Run tests back to back and the score fluctuates enough that 360Chrome v13.5 will "win" one time, but Mypal 74.1.3 will "win" the next time.

Here is 360Chrome v13.5's Speedometer 2.1's score.
Will fluctuate anywere from 29.4 to 33.7.

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General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-17T08:46:21+00:00

Here is my main point.
This 18yr old Q6700 has had Win98, Win2k, WinXP x86 SP2 and SP3, WinXP x64 SP2, Win7 Enterprise, Win10 1511, and Win10 1607.

A browser's performance is NOT dependent on the version of Windows!
What *IS* important is what browsers are **AVAILABLE** for each version of Windows!
In XP x86, in XP x64, in Win7 Enterprise, in Win10 1511, in Win10 1607, a given web browser is all but IDENTICAL *no matter the OS it is ran on!*

Upgrading even this 18yr old Q6700 to **WINDOWS 10** really has been the *BEST* route for "browser performance".
Yeah, still my SLOWEST computer... But *MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF TIMES "FASTER"*...

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General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-17T09:09:34+00:00

In the interest of completeness, this is r3dfox 140.6.0 esr.
TWICE as fast as 360Chrome/Mypal68/Mypal74 (and also higher RAM), but still slower than modern versions of Chrome.

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General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-12-19T22:50:15+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 15 Dec 2025, 00:58
I hope you have a good week ahead. I will admit ... reality can certainly smack you in the face sometimes.

It was the same as any other week, so, meh.

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 17 Dec 2025, 01:09
I guess I do miss my old friends from MSFN and I'm currently locked out of that forum ... but I understand people change and need to move forward in their own lives seeing they are very young with their whole lives ahead of them and I'm too old. I feel abandoned though still I feel like I did something wrong to chase them away. I have 1 online friend I chat with most every day and without him I'd be very lonely. I know this is a busy time of year for some folks that need to buy gifts ... so glad I don't have to do that.

I don't miss that forum, it died long time ago, in my eyes at least.

How do you even find things to chat about?

This thing with gifts and such feels so forced and fake to me. Every year, it's the same shit over and over again. All the wishes and then the new year that isn't any better than the year before that and the year before that and the...

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 17 Dec 2025, 01:09
Ok, its about 8:10PM and I plan to watch TV and maybe play some games on the computers. This computer is on its last legs and its 'any day' for it. I do have my Dell Dimension 3000 that is in great shape because it doesn't get much use, but with only 2 GB of RAM its hard to enjoy anything worth while and adjusting the pagefile doesn't seem to do much so I let the XP handle the pagefile. Browsing the web is tricky. I use Arctic Foxie 360 and Mypal68.14.7 on that one as I plan to stick with XUL for the foreseeable future. Someday they want me on a smart phone and I don't want one ... I'd prefer to keep my ancient flip phone for the rest of my life but the association doesn't like people to use a computer and I'm one of very few allowed to do such here and I know not to break the trust.

I use that one laptop with 2 GB of RAM occasionally. I put Linux Mint on it recently, swapping starts quickly. One or two tabs in a web browser and the RAM is gone. I didn't try turning on zswap yet.

You've been saying your computer is on its last legs for a while now. I noticed in recent times with the laptop, when you turn it on, some white horizontal line appears briefly on the screen. Sometimes it happens when moving the screen / lid.

Strange place you ended up at...

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-20T02:04:56+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 19 Dec 2025, 22:50
...You've been saying your computer is on its last legs for a while now...

I'm shocked it is still working at all. I have numerous bad sectors and I frequently get memory errors (3GB) and I have to shut down the program I was using to start all over again. The power supply gets so hot you can fry an egg on it lol. Its very old and its been though hell actually and many many brownouts. Sometimes I have to restart the computer after it crashes to the desktop after playing any heavy game. I can't complain as I didn't pay for it, it was gift from my brother and for that reason I keep it going with corrupt system files and I don't have the energy to rebuild XP and I tried Vista and it won't support it. I can go online and print but that is about it most days.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-20T02:06:36+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 19 Dec 2025, 22:50
...Strange place you ended up at...

I know.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-20T09:11:58+00:00

I can't complain when it comes to computers.
I've been using them for close to FORTY YEARS but throughout that ENTIRE time span, I've only BOUGHT *three*.
And one of those three was a laptop from a PAWN SHOP not even a year ago (ie, some rich kid pawned it, I landed it for HALF its new-price).
And I currently have SEVEN. More FREEBIES over the years than I've ever bought.
Then there are the FREEBIES that weren't even worth putting to use or only lasted me a year or so because they were "free for a reason".

I'm one of those guys that believes in PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY.
And extends that to *ALL* of us, no matter our 'poverty level' or "fortune", **CAN** "afford" a computer -- ALL OF US !!!
But it will be different for all of us.
Some of us can smoke half what we smoke and use the savings to fund that computer in a few months (I didn't say days).
Some of us can put down the "bottle" and use the savings in a few months.
Some of us can cut down on fast food and restaurants.
There is ALWAYS something.

The *only* "affordability crisis" that I see is the "have not's" thinking they should be living like kings and queens!
No! Learn to live within your means and learn to be happy with that!
I'm a "have not". But I am a HAPPY "have not" that REFUSES to "point blame" at ANYONE "richer than me".
But sure, yeah, you don't make life any "better" by "kicking those already down" either.

Be happy WHERE YOU ARE AT. Take OWNERSHIP of WHERE YOU ARE AT.
STOP comparing yourself to those "above you".
STOP comparing yourself to those "beneath you".

But anywhooo...

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-12-20T17:56:06+00:00

I wouldn't be at peace if the disk with an OS was broken.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-12-21T14:02:11+00:00

What does it even mean to be happy?

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-21T18:50:10+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 14:02
What does it even mean to be happy?

I don't know, I'm not happy either. I have bright spots in the day but they don't last.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-21T19:29:37+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 18:50

UCyborg wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 14:02
What does it even mean to be happy?
I don't know, I'm not happy either. I have bright spots in the day but they don't last.

My happiest times in my life are when I'm alone, and I'm almost never alone. :p

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-12-21T22:25:32+00:00

Just wait until you get old...
---
I wish things were different, but there's no restart button, no possibility to change the past. It seems like the only reasonable solution would be suicide.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-21T23:48:48+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 22:25
Just wait until you get old...
---
I wish things were different, but there's no restart button, no possibility to change the past. It seems like the only reasonable solution would be suicide.

One thing I do know, is, never ever act on impulse and this too shall pass. Just wondering, is something really eating you up? Is this dreaded holiday season getting the best of you? I know its forced for me. No tree this year as nobody is in the spirit either. I hope to sleep through it if possible. I do appreciate my own company and being around a bunch of people won't help me any and I need to focus on self and stay in lonerville. You could try meditation to get you through the rough times, UCyborg ... just a suggestion of course. I know you've been down for a long while. I don't know how to help you I'm afraid. I don't like to fail people I care about.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-22T00:33:32+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 22:25
there's no restart button, no possibility to change the past.

It's called life, or experience. Sometimes we are doing good and some other times wrong. It can't be marvelous all the time.
We learn from everything

UCyborg wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 22:25
It seems like the only reasonable solution would be suicide.

That's not reasonable, at all.
And a solution to what ? Think about that. This is not a solution but just giving up.
Then you'll miss some good things because we all have good days and bad days. Once again it can't be wonderful all the time.
Dark thoughts are round circles, we need to escape them. Go out and breathe. Yes, you can. I did it.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-12-22T23:37:28+00:00

It's the thought I occasionally entertain. I don't tend to do things on impulse, that post was hastily written. I haven't thought deeply about the topic for couple of years.

Holiday season doesn't help. Doesn't seem there's anything left for me here.

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 23:48
Just wondering, is something really eating you up?

Well, the usual things.

Duke wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 00:33
Then you'll miss some good things because we all have good days and bad days.

I do entertain that thought, just doesn't seem likely, considering my luck.

Duke wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 00:33
That's not reasonable, at all.

It's a made up construct. I'm sure it's not the first time you've come across another person's definition of reasonable that didn't make sense to you.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-23T00:17:14+00:00

I do have suicidal thoughts too but I try to avoid ruminating about them. They do pass. I'm glad you haven't thought deeply about it. We are not the only ones but its ok when its just a fleeting thought.

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2025-12-24T21:23:42+00:00

idkwhatnametoputxd wrote: *   21 Dec 2025, 19:29

xperceniol_sal wrote: *   21 Dec 2025, 18:50

UCyborg wrote: *   21 Dec 2025, 14:02
What does it even mean to be happy?
I don't know, I'm not happy either. I have bright spots in the day but they don't last.
My happiest times in my life are when I'm alone, and I'm almost never alone. :p

Today I'm glad to be by myself and enjoy my movies and music whilst everybody is gone for Christmas.

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2025-12-24T21:26:02+00:00

cloudstr wrote: * 17 Dec 2025, 06:19

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 17 Dec 2025, 01:09
I use Arctic Foxie 360 and Mypal68.14.7 on that one as I plan to stick with XUL for the foreseeable future
Understandable, but i suggest you update Mypal to version 74.1.3 (v74.1.4 having issues loading videos in private mode). I noticed atleast 10% to 20% improvement in performance, pages load faster and more responsive than v68.14.x

Well I got 74.1.2 working very well now accept there are these annoying white lines in the address bar but I"ll overlook it for now. Same issue with 74.1.4 but that version closes as soon as I start typing in the address bar.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-24T21:30:00+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 17 Dec 2025, 08:18
Here is what I get pitting Mypal 68.14.7 directly with 74.1.3.
As far as CPU and RAM goes, the two are IDENTICAL, no significant difference.

Speedometer 2.1 goes from 32.4 to 33.6 on my 18yr old Q6700.
No real performance gain, in my opinion.
BUT... YES, 74.1.3 does score EVER SO SLIGHTLY higher than both Mypal 68.14.7 *and* 360Chrome v13.5.

However, in my view, the difference in performance is so SLIGHT that *personal preference* between all three should be the deciding factor.
Which GUI do you like best? Which feel more "ergonomic" to your usage? et cetera...

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Thank you for the assessment and I did get 74.1.2 working and I notice an improvement over 68.14.7 but 74.1.2 seems like this is versionless for some reason but I got ublock working with help form Duke so I can't be too picky

General Chat :: Way to boost uploading speed on Internet Archive :: Author ThatRandomToast

2025-12-21T06:19:50+00:00

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT A SPONSORSHIP.

If you're far away from San Francisco, California, USA (where the Internet Archive server is located), the uploading speed is very slow.

A way to boost uploading speed to the Internet Archive is connecting to a VPN server located in California, which is close to the Internet Archive's location. I would recommend paid VPNs such as Proton VPN.

I have Proton VPN's Plus subscription. Tried connecting from Vietnam to a Proton VPN server in San Jose (which is close to the Internet Archive) and uploading a 4 GB file to another Internet Archive account, and that's much faster than without a VPN. Tried Los Angeles also, and the speed isn't much different from San Jose for me.

General Chat :: Way to boost uploading speed on Internet Archive :: Reply by ThatRandomToast

2025-12-21T06:20:48+00:00

P.S. When I post this, the Internet Archive was down

General Chat :: Way to boost uploading speed on Internet Archive :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-12-21T12:14:57+00:00

I discovered this too, I use Windscribe, and found this to be the case. However I had never thought to post it here.

General Chat :: Way to boost uploading speed on Internet Archive :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-23T14:29:28+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: * 21 Dec 2025, 12:14
I use Windscribe

I see Windscribe has a Firefox extension, but is it really free to use ? On their site they just say it requires a Windscribe account.
https://windscribe.com/knowledge-base/articles/getting-started-with-windscribe-on-firefox/

And on the extension page we can read:
"Free plan provides 10 GB of data per month (if you confirm your email address)"

Can it be used without the desktop program ?

General Chat :: Way to boost uploading speed on Internet Archive :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-12-23T14:52:21+00:00

I forgot I mirrored something to archive.org and then I forgot to update it. I can test if browser extension works.

General Chat :: Way to boost uploading speed on Internet Archive :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-23T15:33:14+00:00

Duke wrote: * 23 Dec 2025, 14:29
... Windscribe ... but is it really free to use ? On their site they just say it requires a Windscribe account.

Can it be used without the desktop program ?

I've used it in the past. Only from within a VM.
It's been several years, but yeah, it did at least then require the desktop program.
Unless they finally caught on, "grr" email addresses are allowed as an "account".
ie, poplular "temporary" email address used for creating accounts like that and then the email "address" never accessed ever again.

General Chat :: Way to boost uploading speed on Internet Archive :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2025-12-23T15:59:09+00:00

If I start the upload and then turn on the browser extension, it doesn't do anything. But if I start it and then start the upload, it appears to work. the speed is overall much higher, but the graph looks more sporadic.

General Chat :: Way to boost uploading speed on Internet Archive :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-23T23:25:42+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 23 Dec 2025, 15:33
it did at least then require the desktop program.

I see, thanks for the info

General Chat :: Way to boost uploading speed on Internet Archive :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-24T21:21:28+00:00

Unfortunately, that extension doesn't work with MyPal74

General Chat :: Way to boost uploading speed on Internet Archive :: Reply by ThatRandomToast

2025-12-25T05:49:34+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 24 Dec 2025, 21:21
Unfortunately, that extension doesn't work with MyPal74

The best way for long run is to subscribe to a VPN service and install its application to your device if you're running a supported OS.

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-16T01:45:10+00:00

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2025-12-16T18:40:07+00:00

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-16T23:35:34+00:00

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cx2583edw1go

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2025-12-17T19:05:32+00:00

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2025-12-18T20:27:01+00:00

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2025-12-19T18:54:32+00:00

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2025-12-20T18:27:04+00:00

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2025-12-21T18:47:32+00:00

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2025-12-22T01:46:19+00:00

Call me slow on this one. I just noticed that this thread is about wishing for SNOW.
ie, Christmas WEATHER.

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-22T02:11:13+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 22 Dec 2025, 01:46
Call me slow on this one. I just noticed that this thread is about wishing for SNOW.
ie, Christmas WEATHER.

We already had 1 snow storm here and it was nice to see

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-22T18:20:26+00:00

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2025-12-23T18:37:35+00:00

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-23T23:28:51+00:00

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by BenjaminK

2025-12-24T07:06:28+00:00

Happy end of the year, everyone ! Wishing you the best...

Cheers,
Benjamin

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2025-12-24T13:18:22+00:00

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2025-12-24T19:02:42+00:00

General Chat :: Happy Almost 2026 To Everyone On Eclipse.cx :) :: Reply by Possum98

2025-12-29T20:20:18+00:00

Well Its Almost 2026 And I Hope Everyone Has An Amazing New Year Ahead The World May Seem Like A Terrible Place But There is Good Kind Hearted People Out There That Do Care About You And Want The best For You In Life

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by Duke

2025-12-29T23:44:52+00:00

Thanks and best of luck to everyone, dark times are coming back

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by UCyborg

2025-12-30T11:15:54+00:00

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-30T20:42:51+00:00

Well, 2026 is almost here. Can't say I feel optimistic about this one, but at least this god forsaken year is almost over. :p

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-31T00:54:04+00:00

I'm worried about the future.

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by RedBeam

2025-12-31T19:12:53+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 31 Dec 2025, 00:54
I'm worried about the future.

just remember you have friends that care for you thats all that matters in life the world can be weird sometimes but that does not mean its all evil and dark out there the lights do still glow if you look for them

General Chat :: Wishing You All A Merry Christmas Weather You Celebrate or Not :) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-01-01T00:48:17+00:00

Thank you, RedBeam, I appreciate that you wrote to me. I'll try to remember that.

General Chat :: Various videos :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-01T12:37:49+00:00

A joke by Peter Sellers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE3SvDwecBA

General Chat :: Happy New Year! :: Author Duke

2026-01-01T12:41:20+00:00

Happy New Year to you all!
Best wishes and take care

General Chat :: Happy New Year! :: Reply by PantelicGR

2026-01-02T12:42:09+00:00

Happy new year! I wish you to be well and to have freedom, love, peace and creativity in your life.
All the best!

General Chat :: Happy New Year! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-01-04T02:21:39+00:00

We're off to a rough start it would seem.

General Chat :: Happy New Year! :: Reply by Duke

2026-01-04T12:03:33+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 04 Jan 2026, 02:21
We're off to a rough start it would seem.

And I guess there will be more to come!

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-01-04T02:20:45+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by RedBeam

2026-01-04T04:03:30+00:00

How can I be ok when the world is terrible? A Guide On Overcoming Fear By Mental health America https://screening.mhanational.org/content/how-can-i-be-ok-when-world-terrible/

Quote:
Let’s be honest: The world can be a pretty terrible place. From personal losses to national tragedies and global disasters and everything in between… It’s easy to feel depressed about the state of the world.

Just thinking about the sheer amount of awfulness around us can be completely overwhelming—even paralyzing. The problems are far too big for any single person to solve them. So what can you do? Should you do anything? Should you give up? Is there any “should” to begin with?

It’s normal to feel discouraged about the world.
You may have heard this expression: “If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention.” It’s not just anger—the same goes for depression. Research has shown that people who feel depressed often make more accurate predictions of events than people who don’t [1]. Lots of bad things happen in the world, and feeling bad about them is a normal reaction. It’s okay to feel:

Grief about what’s been lost
Anxious about what’s going to happen next
Overwhelmed by how big the problems are, or how much work it will take to solve them
Disillusioned by the people in positions of power
Guilty for not doing more
Paralyzed by all these feelings
These feelings are all normal. Of course, they’re not fun. And they’re not always particularly useful. Depression may help you clearly see how terrible things are—but it’s also the leading cause of disability in the world [2].

Equally unhelpful: being told to “just stay positive.” Ignoring the horrible things you see around you won’t make them go away, any more than getting depressed about them will. If you want to function in the world and make it a better place, you need to take care of yourself—and then find ways to help however you can.

Is it selfish to prioritize my own mental health?
The desire to help make the world a better place is an incredible thing. If you notice what’s going wrong in the world and feel a responsibility to make it better, that says something really positive about who you are.

You’re still one person. And your ability to make a positive difference is affected by your mental health. If you’re so discouraged you can hardly get out of bed, it’s going to be hard to make a big impact.

Make time for self-care. Sometimes you need to drop the volunteer work and take a bubble bath. Don’t feel bad about the fact that you’re doing something for you. That bubble bath will help you feel refreshed and valued. When you’re ready, you’ll have more of yourself to give.
Make space for gratitude. The world kinda sucks—but it’s also kind of beautiful. You don’t have to ignore the bad things to see the good things.
Acknowledge negative emotions without dwelling on them. Our negative emotions are there to guide and protect us. They motivate us to make changes. It’s when we fixate on them that they start to take over. If you’re having trouble moving on, consider whether you might need some help with a mental health condition like depression or anxiety. (Our online mental health tests are a great place to start.)
Balance being informed with being mentally healthy.
You can’t be “on” all the time. Thinking nonstop about the problems in the world is only going to wear you down. You need to take breaks. Here are a few ways you can do that:

Set limits on your news and social media time. Looking at the news for a few hours a week is a great way to stay informed. Looking at the news nonstop is a great way to get depressed.
Focus on things you can control. We each have our own circle of influence. There are things I can change that you can’t—but there are also things you can change that I can’t. Your circle of influence depends on lots of things: What you feel passionate about. Where you live. What skills or knowledge you have. Whether you have more time than money, or more money than time.
Don’t try to save the whole world all at once. Start where you are, and take one step towards making a bigger difference. That step might be starting to volunteer for an hour a week. Or donating $5 to a cause you care about. Or sharing a post on social media. Or, it might be going back to step one: take care of yourself!
Find other people who care about the same things.
Not many things are lonelier than watching the world burn when no one around you seems to see it. Find someone else who does see it, and talk to them about it. Solving the biggest problems in the world is going to require cooperation. That starts with simply connecting over shared interests.

Some people are fortunate enough to find a workplace where people care about making a difference. (And don’t discount your friends and family. They might not understand… but some of them may surprise you if you give them a chance.)

The world won’t get fixed just by talking about it, but talking about it is a great first step. And “one step at a time” is exactly how things get better.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-01-04T17:34:43+00:00

Hi there, RedBeam!

I liked your posting but I also think it deserves a reply.

I've read it more than once and that is right, talking about it is a great first step

I hope this message finds you well.

TC

Sal

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-16T20:50:01+00:00

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by idkwhatnametoputxd

2025-12-21T12:24:23+00:00

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dGZ93RM-Jg

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2025-12-22T21:18:06+00:00

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2025-12-24T20:45:00+00:00

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2026-01-07T00:07:25+00:00

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-04T18:20:10+00:00

Stranger Things
Season 5
spoiler-reviews seem to indicate that season 5 (final season) doesn't really end that well
but there's nothing else on anyway, lol

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-01-06T14:59:47+00:00

^Yeah its hard to find something good to watch nowadays. I have to rely on free streaming.

https://watch.plex.tv/show/wayward-pines

Wayward Pines

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-06T15:43:18+00:00

I'm not familiar with Wayward Pines. Or with Plex.tv.
Plex is going to be today's project
Found a Mr. Bean live-tv channel and now to create userstyle sheet to turn the Plex experience to my liking.
Plex's interface kind of sucks.
I prefer the video to be in a FIXED position and be able to scroll through the listings without the video scrolling out of view.

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-06T15:53:35+00:00

For example, here is how I Pluto.
The video is FIXED at the right no matter what section of the listings I am browsing.
Click ANYWHERE on the video is MUTE/UNMUTE, whether it is beside the channel listings or fullscreen.
And ZERO "fade" or dark "overlays" during hover. BIG PET PEEVE when any streaming app does that CRAP.

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General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-01-07T00:09:54+00:00

Yeah I also like Pluto and Tubi. Its does take a little getting used to the Plex format .... do let me know how you like it.

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-07T03:20:16+00:00

I'm a sucker for userstyles and userscripts!
I like to "standardize" / "normalize" all of my frequently-visited web sites.
My Pluto and Tubi and now Plex all basically LOOK IDENTICAL to each other.

Plex also required a userscript to REPLACE its "fullscreen" with a *WINDOWED* player.
I kind of "hate" fullscreen because I'm always doing half a dozen things at the same time and don't want anything taking up the full screen.

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General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-07T14:19:56+00:00

Today's watch = Red Dwarf on Plex.tv

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-01-09T02:05:59+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 07 Jan 2026, 03:20
I'm a sucker for userstyles and userscripts!
I like to "standardize" / "normalize" all of my frequently-visited web sites.
My Pluto and Tubi and now Plex all basically LOOK IDENTICAL to each other.

Plex also required a userscript to REPLACE its "fullscreen" with a *WINDOWED* player.
I kind of "hate" fullscreen because I'm always doing half a dozen things at the same time and don't want anything taking up the full screen.

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I'm glad you got Plex to your liking.

-Mister Blobfish

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-01-09T15:20:01+00:00

It's given me something to do, lol.
I now have a userscript that can skip forward and back any video on all of my streaming sites.
And *without* being redirected to the "on-demand" section of the streaming site.

And playback "speed" control. I have a habit of liking to play movies at 0.85 playback speed.
Slows it down just a tiny bit that voice pitch is mostly unaffected but fast-paced scenes now ALLOW ME TIME to read the closed captions.