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Compatibility Mods :: Realtek RTL8157 USB 5GbE Ethernet on Windows 7/8 :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-03-31T18:46:26+00:00

I also wanted to test the RTL8126, I was hopeful since it's Realtek PCIe 5GbE and the Realtek USB 5GbE worked fine, however the driver inf had nothing for beyond 2.5GbE. I finally tested it today, and I modded the driver and got it to install, however it only "negotiates" at 100 megabits and sends/receives no data. So I guess the PCIe driver has no 5G/10G capability at all while the USB driver has it just disabled.

Something else to note with the RTL8157, it seems consistently unstable when used with Ryzen (500 series chipset, 5000 series CPU) USB controllers, however it's completely fine with other USB controllers in the same machine. (other being sample size of 1 though. Intend to test Intel long term at some point soon. Also I'd like to get a(nother) UPD720201 based card to test with since those are the only decent add in controllers you can get.) Unstable meaning it will BSOD the system every so often with 0x00000133 or 0x00000139, however that's usually after multiple days of the system being powered on and probably more the fault of the shitty Ryzen USB controller anyways. I haven't had enough time to see if Linux or Windows 10 encounters this issue though, although I have had one weird freeze with Linux when using it.

I was using the built in USB port in my 2080 Ti for this adapter, but that GPU has since died. Due to having no other controller, I've been using AQC107 Ethernet recently. It's actually pretty decent on 8.1 with the 2.1.18.0 driver from 2019/06/13, while the same controller is awful on 10 and Linux, not sure why. Wouldn't recommend it though as it's considerably more expensive on a PCIe card than just getting a RTL8157 and a (hopefully) decent USB PCIe card.

On a maybe more positive note, I want to eventually fork the Dietmar open source RTL8125 driver and attempt to port it to the RTL8126 and see what it can do. Which would mean the card could work on even XP. However I have no timeline for that, nor do I know if I could even do it.

General Software & Hardware :: Dynamic Web Content and User Custom Scripts :: Author The-10-Pen

2026-03-20T11:47:24+00:00

I use my own userscript on all video web sites.
A brightness slider because the entire "color pallette" on some videos look like sh#tty shades of black for EVERYTHING.
And width/height sliders because I'd rather have a SLIGHTLY stretched video but use the entire viewing pane instead of stupid "black bars".
I can also fast-forward or rewind 15 seconds per click or slow playback to 85% if the action is too fast and I can't read CC fast enough, lol.

The userscript pops up my sliders only when I hover the mouse in the upper left corner.

My problem is that on some sites (technically, only Popcornflix so far), due to dynamic content, the userscript isn't "reloaded" / "reapplied" if I navigate back/forward to select a different video or if I refresh/reload the page.

Any suggestions?

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General Software & Hardware :: Dynamic Web Content and User Custom Scripts :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-21T20:52:10+00:00

Fixed. I couldn't get MutationObserver to work and that's the route I've usually seen for this type of activity.

Code: Select all

    $(document).ajaxComplete(function(event, xhr, settings) {
        name-of-my-script();
    });

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by Dustman0192

2026-04-10T16:56:19+00:00

What about Element on Matrix? As far as I'm concerned, Discord won't be getting any better. They'll continue to sell more of your data, they'll continue to introduce more predatory cosmetic cash grabs, so on and so forth. As far as I'm aware, they haven't IPO'd yet but, once they do, it will cause their services to further degrade.

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by Niko

2026-04-11T11:39:11+00:00

Dustman0192 wrote: * 10 Apr 2026, 16:56
What about Element on Matrix? As far as I'm concerned, Discord won't be getting any better. They'll continue to sell more of your data, they'll continue to introduce more predatory cosmetic cash grabs, so on and so forth. As far as I'm aware, they haven't IPO'd yet but, once they do, it will cause their services to further degrade.

Matrix as a protocol has some big issues too. I recommend you check out the part about matrix on this article. https://jabber.greatsword.xyz/jabber-vs-everyone.html

And yeah Discord will be getting worse, and worse. So I think the sooner people leave it the better.

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by ThatRandomToast

2026-04-11T14:18:35+00:00

Regarding age restrictions and ID requirements, are more companies and countries trying to follow China?

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-11T14:27:32+00:00

ThatRandomToast wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 14:18
Regarding age restrictions and ID requirements, are more companies and countries trying to follow China?

I'm not really sure what that means.
But on the surface, don't companies kind of "have to" ???
Some form of PROTECTING THEMSELVES from BAD PARENTING on account of "consumers" that were never supposed to "consume" in the first place.

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by Niko

2026-04-11T15:03:28+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 14:27

ThatRandomToast wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 14:18
Regarding age restrictions and ID requirements, are more companies and countries trying to follow China?
I'm not really sure what that means.
But on the surface, don't companies kind of "have to" ???
Some form of PROTECTING THEMSELVES from BAD PARENTING on account of "consumers" that were never supposed to "consume" in the first place.

No. They don't have to. It's the job of the parents sadly to not allow their children on these platforms. The companies are only doing it because 1. They love to collect as much user data as possible to later sell, and 2. Because the governments are telling them to do it.

Most of the blame for this entire thing happening, can be placed on bad parents giving their children unreconstructed internet access.

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-11T15:22:08+00:00

Niko wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 15:03
No. They don't have to. It's the job of the parents sadly to not allow their children on these platforms. The companies are only doing it because 1. They love to collect as much user data as possible to later sell, and 2. Because the governments are telling them to do it.

Most of the blame for this entire thing happening, can be placed on bad parents giving their children unreconstructed internet access.

Agreed!

BUT... and I can only speak for here in the US, it's all just a bunch of smoke and mirrors, you can be a bad parent all you want, when your child of that environment commits suicide, the bad parent becomes a MILLIONAIRE by suing the company and blaming the COMPANY for their CHILD'S *mental health issues* instead of their own parenting !!!

So whether we like it or not, the company has EVERY D@MN RIGHT to PROTECT THEMSELVES from BAD PARENTS suing them !!! !!!

You can blame the company all you want.
You can blame the bad parent all you want.

Everybody has to protect themselves. No way around it!

Circular logic. Dog chaising its tail.

When bad parents sue companies and blame the company, why in H#LL would that company not prevent FUTURE LAWSUITS of the same kind ???
Which, duh!, *mandates* that these companies perform some level of ACCOUNTABILITY since the parents clearly are NOT.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Author wuggy

2026-04-16T05:30:41+00:00

Recently had to use and compile modern Firefox, and it is an experience straight from hell.
(Whoever thought it was a good idea to shove rust into Firefox seriously needs a mental checkup.)

For one, why does it take 3 hours to compile, whereas UXP takes 20 mins? (Spoiler, most of that is just compiling Rust packages)

And it's also compiling stupid shit like WebVR, in the WINDOWS VERSION. Maybe it would make an ounce of sense if it was on Android or something similar to that, but still, WHY?

So-called "modern" web browsers are the most stupid shit I have ever seen. All a web browser needs to do is load pages, maybe a sprinkle of JavaScript, not whatever the modern web's crap is.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by Iffy-chan

2026-04-16T07:21:33+00:00

I mean, I've already linked to a gigantic webpage that talks about this previously: https://digdeeper.club/articles/mozilla.xhtml

TL;DR they're more focused on controlled-opposition performative activism than building a browser. It's intentional.

As for web developers being morons, it's both a mix of agenda-ism, "smart" devices and laziness.

I wish something independent like NetSurf would get more attention, to be quite honest. I've always liked the idea of a totally independently written browser (not to mention, it's been ported to some interesting platforms, such as RISC OS and the Dreamcast).

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-16T11:32:21+00:00

I kinda think that Firefox Sucks So Much because their userbase just "accepts" unconventional aspects of Firefox without REAL thought behind it.

With RESPECT towards members here, we have that "blind acceptance" even HERE.

I realize that I'm in the minority, doesn't mean I can't be heard.
I cite Firefox's background DNS (merely as a RECENT discussion herein).
These "background" connections, regardless of how "trivial" or data-centric, FORCE software firewall rules to be OPENED WIDER.
Things like "loopback" rules. I will not go into detail, research yourself! This has been a Firefox "negative" for over TWENTY YEARS.
If you use very strict parent-process-based firewall rules, Firefox has to be opened WIDER than browsers without these "trivial" DNS connections.
Call me paranoid, DON'T CARE!

To me, Firefox users are COMPLACENT and MAKE UP EXCUSES when "called out".
Forgive me for saying so, but they see themselves as "different" and "going against the grain" and MAKE EXCUSES to label it as "right".

There are some NON-COMPLACENT users - ie, things like this --
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/browsing/firefox-users-slam-mozilla-over-controversial-data-privacy-update

But the reality is that MOST users of Firefox really DON'T CARE, they have BLIND TRUST in Firefox and create excuses when called out on it.
"But it's the lesser of two evils", or something like that.

I can't speak towards COMPILING Firefox, I have done it, but I also didn't trust my output.
But then again, I didn't really trust the input "base code" either.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-16T13:00:09+00:00

I suppose I should add the DISCLAIMER that when I say "most Firefox users", I refer to folks like my SISTER and NOT folks that become members of web sites such as this. Something my sister would NEVER do. Facebook, yes. Something real like this, no, never in a million years. And that subset of "most Firefox users" couldn't tell you the difference between DNS, TCP, or UDP. But could list three dozen acronyms used on Facebook that I would have to look up to know what the H#ll she is trying to say.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by DoNotThrowOldPCsAway

2026-04-16T15:14:47+00:00

Anyone else noticed how fast version 148 was only for the whole speed improvement to go away in 149?

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-23T20:52:10+00:00

Firefox 115.34 ESR is out:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.34.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.34.0/releasenotes/

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-07T16:46:23+00:00

Firefox 115.34.1 ESR has been released:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.34.1esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.34.1/releasenotes/

Browsers :: AI coming into Firefox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-08T19:19:57+00:00

AI was just in the news (okay, it is *ALWAYS* in the news, lol).
A new AI technology called "Ghost Murmur" that can detect a human heartbeat from up to 40 *MILES* away !!!

Browsers :: AI coming into Firefox :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-08T21:39:56+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 08 Apr 2026, 19:19
AI was just in the news (okay, it is *ALWAYS* in the news, lol).
A new AI technology called "Ghost Murmur" that can detect a human heartbeat from up to 40 *MILES* away !!!

WHAT??? That has to be an article from The Onion.

PLEASE, PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCE WHEN SAYING STUFF LIKE THIS??? PLEASE???

Browsers :: AI coming into Firefox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-08T22:33:21+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 08 Apr 2026, 21:39
PLEASE, PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCE WHEN SAYING STUFF LIKE THIS??? PLEASE???

NO !!!

You have a keyboard and internet access, I'm not here to hold your hand!
I presented an "idea" for you to follow through with on your own accord.
I'm not here to hold your hand!

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Browsers :: AI coming into Firefox :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-09T02:56:02+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 08 Apr 2026, 22:33
NO !!!

Yes. Please.
When you put some statement always post your source. You found it so you post it.
Normal, elegant, useful, fair.

The-10-Pen wrote: * 08 Apr 2026, 22:33
I presented an "idea" for you to follow through with on your own accord.

You didn't present an idea but a name from the news:

The-10-Pen wrote: * 08 Apr 2026, 19:19
AI was just in the news (okay, it is *ALWAYS* in the news, lol).
A new AI technology called "Ghost Murmur" that can detect a human heartbeat from up to 40 *MILES* away !!!

So next time just copy/paste the link of this news article you have found.

Browsers :: AI coming into Firefox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-09T09:14:09+00:00

Again, I say:
NO !!!
It was tv news and I'm not going to "record" just for "you".

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! GET OVER *YOURSELVES*. THIS IS *YOUR* PROBLEM, NOT MINE!

Q.E.D.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by Dustman0192

2026-04-10T16:28:22+00:00

I've had success getting the latest version of Steam working on Windows 7 x64 by using VxKex. Previously, it would install but show the EOL banner at the top and I couldn't get any games to install without download corruption or file corruption or just a host of random errors. Running steam.exe under VxKex as Windows 11 eliminates the banner and I've been able to install any game I've tried.

Some games don't run (thanks to the launchers being a requirement, like Sims 4), but they will still install. Sims 3 will run if you execute it directly and don't go through the launcher. Stardew Valley also runs fine (but it also would run on a potato.)

EDIT: One other issue with modern Steam is the UI will freeze up on first start. It will just be blank. I think it has something to do with steamwebhelper but I haven't messed with it too much. Usually if you give it a few minutes it will be fine. This problem also affects shutting down Windows 7. It will cause Windows to hang until you cancel the shutdown and manually close Steam.

Windows 11 :: I have lost hope in Windows 11 :: Reply by leo

2026-04-08T06:36:38+00:00

Duke wrote: * 03 Feb 2026, 15:09

leo wrote: * 03 Feb 2026, 07:23
IT is coming.
But this has nothing to do with Windows 11 or did I miss something ?

okay seems you didnt get it so basically it means is ai bubble is popping = shareholders no longer interested and instead move onto the next exploitable business = less "net worth" in satya nadella's pockets = the windows 11 enshittification possibly ends and, as an example copilot dies out
seems as if linux's recent exponential growth was also a factor in this since they've started restoring some stuff they decided to randomly throw out with windows 10 eg. sideways/upwards taskbar but you know we'll see

Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 :: Windows 7 Extended Kernel :: Reply by luk3Z

2026-03-18T19:06:23+00:00

Updated Jan 18 2026:
https://github.com/i486/VxKex/releases

Windows 2000/NT :: PE Maker :: Reply by ibay770

2026-03-19T05:32:29+00:00

updated link: https://win2k.org/blog/2010/12/24/1313117/

It's not allowing a direct link for some reason.

There is also PatchPE which does the same thing: https://sourceforge.net/projects/nikkhokkho/files/PatchPE/1.36/PatchPE.zip/download

Windows 2000/NT :: [GUIDE] Windows 2000 on Intel Sandy Bridge and later with ACPI :: Reply by ibay770

2026-03-19T05:42:26+00:00

Can this be made to work on baytrail tablets?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Author lundegart

2026-03-23T07:52:32+00:00

Hello, I have a problem with integrating r3dfoxportable as the default browser in Windows 7 Ultimate. The profile I created is located in the \r3dfoxPortable\Data\profile folder and I always opened the browser via r3dfoxPortable.exe in the \r3dfoxPortable folder (base folder). After integrating it as the standard browser, everything points to \r3dfoxPortable\App\r3dfox64 and the r3dfox.exe there is called and r3dfox even creates a new profile under \r3dfoxPortable\App\r3dfox64\Profile. Unfortunately, for example, when I open a link in Thunderbird, my profile is not opened but everything points to the newly created profile. I would be grateful for any advice or instructions on how to correctly integrate r3dfox with the desired profile.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-23T12:02:18+00:00

Why are you using the PORTABLE version?
Switching to the NON-PORTABLE solves your issue.

Nothing "for or against", per se.
It just seems to me that the simple WANTING of a DEFAULT BROWSER runs *AGAINST* the true INTENTIONS of *PORTABLE* because the mere act of setting a "default" requires registry entries and folder structures COUNTER-INTUITIVE to the very nature of what "portable" strives to achieve.

If you are going to take a "portable" but then re-create what the portable removed (ie, permanent registry entries, for example), then you really should just use the "real" version and not the "portable" version.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by lundegart

2026-03-23T17:20:21+00:00

I work with several operating systems installed in parallel and would like to be able to access the same browser from each. With Firefox Portable, it has never been a problem for many years to integrate it into several operating systems in parallel as the standard browser. Since a few of these operating systems are Windows 7, I think it would be good to continue what worked with Firefox portable with the r3dfox portable and would like to know whether and how that is possible. It behaves differently than Firefox.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-23T20:08:34+00:00

Portable Registrator might do what you want:
https://github.com/SiL3NC3/PortableRegistrator

I haven't tried it. Make backups of everything (system, registry, profiles, folders, etc) before using it so you can easily go back in case of troubles. You have been warned.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-23T21:45:19+00:00

I personally think we need to dig deeper than a third-party tool.
If the claim is true that r3dfox "behaves differently than Firefox" in this regard, then I think it is a FAIR QUESTION to find out WHY.
Not to be misread, r3dfox is SUPPOSED TO "behave differently" in SOME aspects, but I would submit that this is PROBABLY not one of them.

Now then, having said that, I still DISAGREE with the HACK-ATTACK to turn a PORTABLE into something that is NO LONGER PORTABLE.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-23T22:03:57+00:00

On second thought, I have to disagree with myself on one MISLEADING aspect presented by the OP.
He is comparing r3dfrox portable to Firefox Portable.

MOZILLA DOES NOT OFFICIALLY RELEASE A PORTABLE FIREFOX.
Unless I missed it...

So just what are we comparing here? PortableApps.com's Firefox? winPenPack's Firefox? Something found on GitHub?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-23T22:05:57+00:00

lundegart wrote: * 23 Mar 2026, 07:52
I always opened the browser via r3dfoxPortable.exe in the \r3dfoxPortable folder (base folder).

BTW are you talking about the version from PortableApps.com ?

You should also try the official portable versions:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by lundegart

2026-03-24T10:48:06+00:00

@ Duke: Thanks for the tip, I downloaded the version from your link and found that this “official version” has a completely different folder structure. This means that what I want works well, no more problems.
Question: I can't remember exactly, but I previously downloaded the version from PortableApps.com. Is PortableApps.com actually trustworthy and why are there so many differences from github? So thank you very much and best regards!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-24T15:42:39+00:00

lundegart wrote: * 24 Mar 2026, 10:48
Is PortableApps.com actually trustworthy

Yes, it is.

lundegart wrote: * 24 Mar 2026, 10:48
and why are there so many differences from github?

They are making their own builds of various portable programs using their own launcher. The binary files themselves shouldn't be different but the way the whole thing works is different. With browsers they are using both 32-bit and 64-bit versions, if availble, so the whole package is really fully portable on any Windows version.
But I don't know more about how it works, sorry.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-24T16:38:47+00:00

PortableApps.com apps (PAA) create their own temporary registries.
They are designed to work WITH EACH OTHER (but one of the apps has to be running).
I myself have HUNDREDS (not an exaggeration) of PAA's.
I put office-related programs on one flash drive, audio/video on another flash drive, etc.

I have to ASSUME that the OP is using a PAA THUNDERBIRD and it was designed (by way of its temporary registry) to work *with* PAA's FIREFOX *as-is*.
Only because PAA Thunderbird was RUNNING was the OP's PAA Firefox launched with a click of an email link.

These are actually quite easy to "trace".
View your registry *before* launching Thunderbird.
Then view the temporary registry entries that are created WHILE Thunderbird is running.
All of these registry entries delete themselves from the OS Registry when Thunderbird is closed.
They are stored in a folder/file within the portable Thunderbird's file structure to get "re-added" to the OS Registry at next run.
Then removed again when Thunderbird is closed.
Rinse... Repeat...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox build guide :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-03-26T15:00:08+00:00

Not sure where to post this. I don't think this is useful for current r3dfox, but may help with versions that end up being slightly out of support. Don't think this would work for something like building Firefox 91 though.
https://codeberg.org/librewolf/source/src/branch/main/patches/always-fetch-latest-toolchain-artifact.patch

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox build guide :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-03-28T16:11:45+00:00

Is there a way to reduce how much RAM is needed to build so it would be buildable on 6 GB of RAM?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox build guide :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-03-28T21:47:23+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 28 Mar 2026, 16:11
Is there a way to reduce how much RAM is needed to build so it would be buildable on 6 GB of RAM?

Don't think so. When compiling most applications, they do parallel compiling, which is building multiple components at the same time. Usually this is one job per processor thread or gigabyte of RAM, whichever is lower. This number should get automatically determined, however I just force it to 16 in the mozconfig in my case. (I should add this to the guide now that I think about it.)

Now you might think that's good and all, but confused why I said don't think so? Reason being is Firefox uses Rust and it spends like 20 minutes compiling a single Rust component, gkrust, with a single core. On top of that, it uses an absurd amount of memory to build this single part. This is where the memory requirement comes from.

Although you should be able to get away with just making a big page file and it should* just work. Will probably take a while longer to build, or maybe not idk.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox build guide :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-03-29T00:37:34+00:00

I backed out due to HDD grinding that seemingly took forever that didn't get anywhere and being worried about prolonged mechanical stress.

I thought maybe there's some tweak to reduce how much stuff is built in parallel, but yeah, seems single RUST thing wants 12+ GB RAM, so no go.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by gabriel0

2026-03-24T12:19:55+00:00

Hello.
I'm using win 7 with r3dfox (actual 148.0 (64-bit) because discord added some encrypted voice (E2EE ? ) calls and desktop app cant use calls anymore.
I can call, i can see mac and probably android streams, but i cant see video stream from windows (error 2012) but i can hear the sound.
Also nobody see my streams.
Checked also on another totally different pc with win7
I also tested supermium and there everything works fine. I'm feeling so bad using chrome based browser... Thats why i'm here and saying about all this stuff.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-24T15:45:01+00:00

gabriel0 wrote: * 24 Mar 2026, 12:19
Discord
I can call, i can see mac and probably android streams, but i cant see video stream from windows (error 2012) but i can hear the sound.
Also nobody see my streams.
I also tested supermium and there everything works fine. I'm feeling so bad using chrome based browser

There is a (closed) issue about that:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/135

Hopefully it will be fixed in the upcoming version 149 ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

2026-03-26T05:44:02+00:00

LibreWolf bsys6 Release v149.0-1 exists ...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-27T17:50:48+00:00

R3dfox b149.0 BETA:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/b149.0

Bear in mind it's a BETA version. So backup at least your profile, or more, before you update to b149.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-28T06:30:12+00:00

Duke wrote: * 27 Mar 2026, 17:50
R3dfox b149.0 BETA:

About v149, according to this article:
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-148-149-new-features/

Version 149 is supposed to have a free built-in VPN:

Quote:
A free built-in VPN is coming to Firefox.
Users will have 50 gigabytes of data monthly in the U.S., France, Germany and U.K. to start. Available in Firefox 149 starting March 24.

But I don't see it anywhere in the settings. Is it intentional ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-28T16:10:59+00:00

Ugh !!!
I HATE these types of forced-upon "new features" !!!

Absolutely hate, hate, hate !!!

Tell me, is this feature able to be turned OFF ???
What happens a mere THREE TO FIVE DAYS into every "month" that my daily video streaming pushes me over the "monthly limit" ???

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-03-28T21:56:06+00:00

Duke wrote: * 28 Mar 2026, 06:30
Version 149 is supposed to have a free built-in VPN:
Quote:
A free built-in VPN is coming to Firefox.
Users will have 50 gigabytes of data monthly in the U.S., France, Germany and U.K. to start. Available in Firefox 149 starting March 24.
But I don't see it anywhere in the settings. Is it intentional ?

The-10-Pen wrote: * 28 Mar 2026, 16:10
Tell me, is this feature able to be turned OFF ???

Modern r3dfox follows most Librewolf changes, and from Librewolf, I remember disabling one or two preferences related to a Mozilla VPN, so this should just be disabled by default.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-29T10:41:19+00:00

Personally, speaking solely for myself and my own "safe hexing" practices that have kept me virus-free and malware-free for FORTY YEARS and the last thirty of which was outright AGAINST bottle-knecking anti-virus and anti-malware real-time scanning CRAP slowing down my machine (but have voluntarily installed them over those thirty years and discussed their performance-killing aspects on forums like this, lol, sure, there are some good ones, but few and far between and uninstalling them becomes such a nightmare at times that you are better off with a format/reinstall which is the same result you would have had if you were infected with what it was to safeguard against) and even AGAINST *self-induced* *man-in-the-middle* Tor Network EXIT POINTS, I would NEVER "trust" a VPN that is "IN BED WITH" Mozilla and all of its on-by-default telemetry and data collection mechanisms (which Chrome has also, but the end user in one versus the other has always boiled down to making yourself a needle in the haystack 2-miles high or a needle in the haystack 70-miles high).

This is nothing more than a DESPERATE play on "VPN Myths" and getting Firefox users to PAY FOR their "free" web browser.

There is no "logging or selling" of data, any Firefox user that "enables" this feature is simply HANDING OVER the data that Firefox by itself doesn't collect but WILL collect through its VPN.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-29T14:48:17+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 29 Mar 2026, 10:41
getting Firefox users to PAY FOR their "free" web browser.

No, you don't have to pay for the browser itself but only for the full version of the Mozilla VPN.
The free version of the VPN remains free but it's limited to 50 GB a month and it requires a Mozilla account.

What is the source page of your screenshots ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-29T17:42:18+00:00

Duke wrote: * 29 Mar 2026, 14:48
What is the source page of your screenshots ?

I didn't bookmark and I have no plans to hunt them down for you.
Perform some searches and you can find them just as easily.
Likely even believe them more because you found them yourself.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Nobody

2026-03-29T22:47:15+00:00

Quote:
But I don't see it anywhere in the settings. Is it intentional ?

You can activate the feature manually by setting via about:config the option browser.ipProtection.enabled to true .

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-30T00:05:18+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 29 Mar 2026, 17:42
I didn't bookmark and I have no plans to hunt them down for you.
Perform some searches and you can find them just as easily.

I didn't find this page
Don't you remember if it was an official Mozilla page or some other random site ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-30T00:06:13+00:00

Nobody wrote: * 29 Mar 2026, 22:47
You can activate the feature manually by setting via about:config the option browser.ipProtection.enabled to true .

Nice find, thanks

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-30T08:47:02+00:00

Duke wrote: * 30 Mar 2026, 00:05
I didn't find this page

Not really my problem. Believe the content or don't believe the content. Again, not really my problem.

It was never intended to be a Doctorate Thesis where every one paragraph has six footnote references.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-30T16:44:59+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 30 Mar 2026, 08:47
Believe the content or don't believe the content.

I just want to know if it's an official source or not.
Nothing else.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-30T17:18:04+00:00

Yes, OFFICIAL!

DOZENS of links to "Mozilla Support". Next time I try to be helpful, I'll *FLOOD* the SHIT out of the website and screencRap all *dozens* of "Mozilla Support" snippets and footnote the Hell Out Of It.

I'm done... Stick a fork in me...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-01T20:28:27+00:00

About this issue report: https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/145

Quote:
Considering Librewolf sets trr to 5, that's probably just the best course of action anyways though.

Differences between network.trr.mode values:

Quote:
0 - Off (default). use standard native resolving only (don't use TRR at all)
1 - Reserved (used to be Race mode)
2 - First. Use TRR first, and only if the name resolve fails use the native resolver as a fallback.
3 - Only. Only use TRR, never use the native resolver.
4 - Reserved (used to be Shadow mode)
5 - Off by choice. This is the same as 0 but marks it as done by choice and not done by default.

Source page:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Trusted_Recursive_Resolver

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-01T20:31:55+00:00

About this issue report: https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/146

FYI Windows_NT 5.2 3790 is Windows Server 2003, not XP:
https://betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_Server_2003_build_3790

Almost the same from the R3dfox point of view anyway.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-07T00:20:01+00:00

R3dfox v149.0.2 has been released:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v149.0.2

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-07T20:58:59+00:00

R3dfox v149.0.2: hardware acceleration option is gone ?

It should be like this:

R3dfox-HardwareAcceleration.png

But it's missing with v149.0.2 on Windows 8.1 x64:

R3dfox-NoHardwareAcceleration.png

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

2026-04-08T03:06:27+00:00

Duke wrote: * 07 Apr 2026, 20:58
R3dfox v149.0.2: hardware acceleration option is gone ?

It should be like this:

R3dfox-HardwareAcceleration.png

But it's missing with v149.0.2 on Windows 8.1 x64:

R3dfox-NoHardwareAcceleration.png

You get the hardware acceleration tickbox if you disable use recommended settings. That's how it's worked for ages.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-08T10:13:02+00:00

the_r3dacted wrote: * 08 Apr 2026, 03:06
You get the hardware acceleration tickbox if you disable use recommended settings. That's how it's worked for ages.

OK, my bad.
However, I've noticed that some settings have been changed after updating from v149 beta to v149.0.2 like the warning before opening about:config, network.captive-portal-service.enabled or Safe Browsing.
Very annoying.

I don't like that at all and I wonder which other settings have been forced to a change

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-08T13:32:26+00:00

Duke wrote: * 08 Apr 2026, 10:13
I've noticed that some settings have been changed after updating from v149 beta to v149.0.2 like the warning before opening about:config, network.captive-portal-service.enabled or Safe Browsing.
Very annoying.

On top of that I've just noticed that R3dfox keeps on connecting to detectportal.firefox.com every time I open a new window (Ctrl+N) even though network.captive-portal-service.enabled is set to false.
This never ever happened with previous versions, not even with v149 beta

Correction:
It was there in v149 beta but not in v148.0.2 and previous versions.
I always backup before updating and I've just checked all of these versions.

Update:
Even worse, I have removed the http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html URL from captivedetect.canonicalURL setting and it still connects to detectportal.firefox.com !
WTH is going on ?

R3dfox-CaptivePortal.png

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by eclstedt

2026-04-08T18:41:45+00:00

Duke wrote: * 07 Apr 2026, 00:20
R3dfox v149.0.2 has been released:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v149.0.2

Thanks! Waiting for an ESR release. Will there be updated ESR releases?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-08T19:15:31+00:00

eclstedt wrote: * 08 Apr 2026, 18:41
Waiting for an ESR release. Will there be updated ESR releases?

the_r3dacted said: "Maybe". There:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/150#issuecomment-4203476476

Quote:
I don't know what I'm going to do. Maybe I'll work on 140.9 ESR which will mirror a lot of changes from 149.0.2 since I'm rebuilding it.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-09T19:40:33+00:00

Duke wrote: * 08 Apr 2026, 13:32

Duke wrote: * 08 Apr 2026, 10:13
I've noticed that some settings have been changed after updating from v149 beta to v149.0.2 like the warning before opening about:config, network.captive-portal-service.enabled or Safe Browsing.
Very annoying.
On top of that I've just noticed that R3dfox keeps on connecting to detectportal.firefox.com every time I open a new window (Ctrl+N) even though network.captive-portal-service.enabled is set to false.
This never ever happened with previous versions, not even with v149 beta

Correction:
It was there in v149 beta but not in v148.0.2 and previous versions.
I always backup before updating and I've just checked all of these versions.

Update:
Even worse, I have removed the http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html URL from captivedetect.canonicalURL setting and it still connects to detectportal.firefox.com !
WTH is going on ?

I had to set network.connectivity-service.enabled to false.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

2026-04-09T20:41:38+00:00

Duke wrote: * 09 Apr 2026, 19:40
I had to set network.connectivity-service.enabled to false.

https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/networking/connectivity_checking.html

Quote:
The NetworkConnectivityService will periodically connect to the same URL we use for captive portal detection, but will restrict its preferences to either IPv4 or IPv6.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Nobody

2026-04-12T23:30:29+00:00

Hello
Here is information about an error that has not occurred before.
On Windows 7, 32-bit, I tried to update from version 147.0.1 to 149.0.2. It didn't work. I got the error message:
"r3dfox has stopped working. A problem prevented this program from running correctly. Close the program."
The cause of the error was the following setting in user.js: "dom.enable_resource_timing", false.
After removing this entry, the update was successful.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent UXP 2026 icon too small :: Author cicyyang

2026-03-25T02:17:27+00:00

basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260314-3219d2d-uxp-5b447a5fd9-xpmod
The icon in the top-right corner of the software is too small, making it very inconvenient to use.

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RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent UXP 2026 icon too small :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-25T14:07:34+00:00

I cannot replicate on "normal" versions of XP, 7, and 10.
Are you using any kind of "theme hacks" not *officially* part of your OS (which you didn't even mention "is", btw)?

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-03-20T22:48:05+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260321-3219d2d-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260321-3219d2d-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260321-3219d2d-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260321-d849524bd-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260321-d849524bd-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260321-d849524bd-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260321-d849524bd-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260321-d849524bd-uxp-e1ab6d5746-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2987 - Part 1: Add `AnalyserNode` constructor. (f372f32492)
- Issue #2987 - Part 2: Add `AudioBufferSourceNode` constructor. (0cbf609b3f)
- Issue #2987 - Part 3: Add `GainNode` constructor. (c4fa2c5c6f)
- Issue #2987 - Part 4: Add `DelayNode` constructor. (778db35c34)
- Issue #2987 - Part 5: Add `BiQuadFilterNode` constructor. (5b7efa6c93)
- Issue #2987 - Part 6: Add `IIRFilterNode` constructor. (37f7e56e78)
- Issue #2987 - Part 7: Add `WaveShaperNode` constructor. (5c1996d7f2)
- Issue #2987 - Part 8: Add `PannerNode` constructor. (dc27c4a81d)
- Issue #2987 - Part 9: Add `StereoPannerNode` constructor. (5803d8b571)
- Issue #2987 - Part 10: Add `ConvolverNode` constructor. (a11a979b3b)
- Issue #2987 - Part 11: Add `ChannelSplitterNode` constructor. (6894c6849a)
- Issue #2987 - Part 12: Add `ChannelMergerNode` constructor. (abd12bc195)
- Issue #2987 - Part 13: Add `DynamicsCompressorNode` constructor. (f07c3b501e)
- Issue #2987 - Part 14: Add `OscillatorNode` constructor. (304f413c06)
- Issue #2987 - Part 15: Add `PeriodicWave` constructor. (b097097e28)
- Issue #2987 - Part 16: Add `AudioBuffer` constructor. (c86e080a0c)
- Issue #2987 - Part 17: Add `MediaElementAudioSourceNode` constructor. (e9474a5dc0)
- Issue #2987 - Part 18: Add `MediaStreamAudioSourceNode` constructor. (6456244887)
- Issue #2987 - Part 19: Add `MediaStreamAudioDestinationNode` constructor. (5cb44135d1)
- Issue #2997 - Update expat source to 2.7.4 and apply local patches. (c31f629aee)
- Issue #2862 - Initial attempt at a css lowering (ce4b9975db)
- Issue #2862 - add initial nested css test file (fc09c7cb34)
- Issue #2862 - Modify the css lowerer so that the lowering pass now recognizes bare type-selector nested rules and combinator-led cases (34f9837649)
- Issue #2862 - Fix a few nested selectors (d37e667f9a)
- Issue #2862 - Split the css lowering functionality out to a separate file for easier maintenance (d9b66581ac)
- Issue #2862 - more tests files for nested css (3f299e8f2b)
- Issue #2862 - handle more edge cases in css lowering (6d9547c688)
- Issue #2862 - Change code references from CSS lowering to CSS flattening (a6356fff88)
- Issue #2862 - Change tests from lowering to flattening (ac4c7bca08)
- Issue #2862 - Remove unused vars in CSS flattener (72cb599848)
- Issue #2862 - css nesting pref true by default (ea86d15635)
- Issue #3001 - Restore table reference frame call. (e5e86a8124)
- Issue #2229 - Follow-up: Don't attempt on-stack replacement for TLA modules (11b0b680e1)
- Issue #2551 - implement array.prototype.with (d5566bbb0f)
- Issue #2551 - implement array.prototype.toSpliced (7209aaa021)
- Issue #2897 followup - Do not hardcode jemalloc page size on LoongArch (2aec1ada9e)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-03-20T22:48:13+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260321-40a79c75-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260321-40a79c75-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260321-id-656ea98-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260321-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-03-20T22:48:21+00:00

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-03-27T23:06:49+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260328-3219d2d-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260328-3219d2d-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260328-3219d2d-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260328-d849524bd-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260328-d849524bd-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260328-d849524bd-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260328-d849524bd-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260328-d849524bd-uxp-956cd0a5cc-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Cloudflare Image Resizing fix (c8460ae3e7)
- Issue #3016 - allow url.CanParse to use custom-scheme bases to match current spec (a704425358)
- Issue #2551 - implement TypedArray.prototype.with (3d131186be)
- Issue #3011 - Part 1: Add As{Text|Html}Editor() and AsEditorBase() (2f20100059)
- Issue #3011 - Part 2: Switch spellchecker root to Shadow DOM. (e701dad7ef)
- Issue #3011 - Part 3: Handle edge case for spellchecking. (964a72079a)
- Issue #3020 - document.currentScript should be null in modules (94ffd74cab)
- Issue #3020 - Update `currentScript` when dealing with shadow DOM. (eee99b32cc)
- Issue #3020 - Clear currentScript after running microtasks (fdee9737a8)
- Issue #2548 - Part 1 - Implement MathML DOM and pre-requisites. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1571487 Introduce interface mixins. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1414372 Switch XPathEvaluator to using IDL mixins and remaining users of IDL "implements" over to mixin syntax. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1574195 Introduce GlobalEventHandlers/DocumentAndElementEventHandlers/ElementCSSInlineStyle mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579457 Introduce DocumentAndElementEventHandlers to more closely align with the HTML spec. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1330457 Remove the use of IsCallerChrome in FetchRequest. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1335368 (85600c7378)
- Issue #2548 - Part 2 - Collection of WebIDL parsing updates in an attempt to fix partial interface mixin error. We should ensure, at build-time, that partial interfaces are defined in the same file as the interface they extend. Since our build system doesn't really support correct dep builds if they're placed in a different file. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1333117 WebIDL: Better error message for trying to inherit from a mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575384 Fix webidl identifier conflicts involving typedefs to produce saner exceptions. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1531623 Disallow nullable types for WebIDL constants. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1535647 Add support for extended attributes on types in Web IDL https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1359269 Allow LenientFloat to be only in a specific overload https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1020975 (81b4f0c352)
- Issue #2548 - Part 3 - Fix some MathML issues encountered since WebIDL works. Add an nsContentUtils API for getting the CallerType of a JSContext. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1316616 Also added a Fetch() change that was not in the Mozilla patch. (20354b672f)
- Issue #2548 - Part 4 - Fix some missed changes for ElementCSSInlineStyle. Introduce GlobalEventHandlers/DocumentAndElementEventHandlers/ElementCSSInlineStyle mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579457 (502c704770)
- Issue #2548 - Part 5 - Implement the HTMLOrForeignElement mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577660 Add 'preventScroll' option to HTMLElement's, SVGElement's and XULElement's 'focus' method. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1374045 (3febe21f99)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-03-27T23:06:58+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260328-40a79c75-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260328-40a79c75-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260328-id-656ea98-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260328-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-03-27T23:07:08+00:00

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20260328-eb31645dc-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20260328-eb31645dc-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- ported from UXP: Cloudflare Image Resizing fix (c8460ae3) (2d69b6c88)
- ported from UXP: Issue #3016 - allow url.CanParse to use custom-scheme bases to match current spec (a7044253) (0fd3dc434)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2551 - implement TypedArray.prototype.with (3d131186) (1b04d4b0b)
- ported from UXP: Issue #3011 - Part 1: Add As{Text|Html}Editor() and AsEditorBase() (2f201000) (76bf4dc35)
- ported from UXP: Issue #3011 - Part 2: Switch spellchecker root to Shadow DOM. (e701dad7) (984b6e3c3)
- import from UXP: Issue #3011 - Part 3: Handle edge case for spellchecking. (964a7207) (bbe59f5fe)
- import from UXP: Issue #3020 - document.currentScript should be null in modules (94ffd74c) (fc00851a7)
- import from UXP: Issue #3020 - Update `currentScript` when dealing with shadow DOM. (eee99b32) (0db6bb4b5)
- import from UXP: Issue #3020 - Clear currentScript after running microtasks (fdee9737) (c7997448b)
- ported from UXP:
- Issue #2548 - Part 1 - Implement MathML DOM and pre-requisites. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1571487 Introduce interface mixins. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1414372 Switch XPathEvaluator to using IDL mixins and remaining users of IDL "implements" over to mixin syntax. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1574195 Introduce GlobalEventHandlers/DocumentAndElementEventHandlers/ElementCSSInlineStyle mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579457 Introduce DocumentAndElementEventHandlers to more closely align with the HTML spec. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1330457 Remove the use of IsCallerChrome in FetchRequest. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1335368 (85600c73)
- Issue #2548 - Part 2 - Collection of WebIDL parsing updates in an attempt to fix partial interface mixin error. We should ensure, at build-time, that partial interfaces are defined in the same file as the interface they extend. Since our build system doesn't really support correct dep builds if they're placed in a different file. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1333117 WebIDL: Better error message for trying to inherit from a mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575384 Fix webidl identifier conflicts involving typedefs to produce saner exceptions. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1531623 Disallow nullable types for WebIDL constants. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1535647 Add support for extended attributes on types in Web IDL https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1359269 Allow LenientFloat to be only in a specific overload https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1020975 (81b4f0c3)
- Issue #2548 - Part 3 - Fix some MathML issues encountered since WebIDL works. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1316616 Also added a Fetch() change that was not in the Mozilla patch. (20354b67)
- Issue #2548 - Part 4 - Fix some missed changes for ElementCSSInlineStyle. Introduce GlobalEventHandlers/DocumentAndElementEventHandlers/ElementCSSInlineStyle mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157945 (502c7047)
- Issue #2548 - Part 5 - Implement the HTMLOrForeignElement mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577660 Add 'preventScroll' option to HTMLElement's, SVGElement's and XULElement's 'focus' method. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1374045 (3febe21f) (eb31645dc)

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-04-03T22:51:05+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260404-3219d2d-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260404-3219d2d-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260404-3219d2d-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260404-d849524bd-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260404-d849524bd-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260404-d849524bd-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260404-d849524bd-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260404-d849524bd-uxp-4d6414cfd0-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2551 - implement TypedArray.prototype.toSorted (393d890730)
- No issue - Add 10.4 and 26.* SDK versions to KNOWN_SDK_VERSIONS (45ae2d89ff)
- No issue - Add convolver sanity check (09c0393640)
- [XPCOM] Add more validation to SnappyUncompressInputStream (d323fc3012)
- [gfx] Use local statics for harfbuzz callback pointers (b96505c0e3)
- [network] Ignore non-compliant http server header. (0a5af25d60)
- [NSS] Update NSS (custom) (61c6b4c1aa)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-04-03T22:51:10+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260404-40a79c75-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260404-40a79c75-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260404-id-656ea98-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260404-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-04-03T22:51:15+00:00

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-04-10T22:39:29+00:00

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260411-3219d2d-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260411-3219d2d-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260411-3219d2d-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260411-d849524bd-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260411-d849524bd-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260411-d849524bd-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260411-d849524bd-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260411-d849524bd-uxp-c8f7030b13-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #3027 - modify nsGIOService to call libdbus directly instead of using dbus-glib (c97bc33a87)
- Issue #3027 - remove all uses of dbus-glib from widget/ (6ce1b9a8c0)
- Issue #3042 - Add canvas WebGL context `powerPreference` (546e0075dd)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-04-10T22:39:36+00:00

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260411-40a79c75-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260411-40a79c75-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260411-id-656ea98-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260411-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

2026-04-10T22:39:40+00:00

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent 52 / 55 Language Pack (Portuguese Brazil) :: Author BAVBR

2026-04-12T01:42:24+00:00

I've known about the Roytam1 project for years and it always bothered me that both the official Basilisk and Serpent 52/ 55 browsers don't have a language pack.

Thanks to the project of developer Enobarbous, who managed to create a Russian language package for the official Basilisk, I decided to build on it and create a version for my native language, Brazilian Portuguese, and the result can be seen in this link [url]https://github.com/bav-br/basilisk-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/2026.01.23[/url].

Based on this, I decided to adapt the package to also work on Serpent 52, which already had a translation released on this forum by user cicyyang but bothered me because it was very invasive and had to update with each new release. And, for those who want to download for use or adapt to your language, click here: [url]https://github.com/bav-br/basilisk-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/2026.04.10[/url].

Similarly, I'm also making a package available for Serpent 55, which can be accessed here: [url]https://github.com/bav-br/basilisk-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/2026.04.03[/url].

Please note: If you have any problems after installing the language pack, please let me know. The amount of work involved in reconciling the lines was great, and although extensive and strenuous revision (file by file) was performed, errors may have been made somewhere.

Extra: Based on the fixes indicated by user Astroskeeper[url]https://msfn.org/board/topic/183923-extensions-and-custom-buttons-for-uxp-browsers-corrections-modifications-adjustments-and-special-recommendations/#comment-1226244[/url], I reviewed the New Moon 28 PT-BR language pack (originally posted by developer JustOff) and can be accessed by clicking here: [url]https://www.4shared.com/file/SjcESZ-qku/pt-BR_28100_RC7.html?[/url].

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent 52 / 55 Language Pack (Portuguese Brazil) :: Reply by Iffy-chan

2026-04-14T07:00:09+00:00

Nice job creating a localisation! Out of curiosity, is the localisation system of the UXP-based browser engine at all similar to earlier versions of Firefox's (key versions to look at would be 24, 38 and 52 as PM team based their code on these versions at some point or another in time), or are there significant differences that would make it nontrivial to port the localisation of one to the other?

Quote:
[/url], I reviewed the New Moon 28 PT-BR language pack (originally posted by developer JustOff) and can be accessed by clicking here: https://www.4shared.com/file/SjcESZ-qku/pt-BR_28100_RC7.html?.

Would you mind using a different file host? If I recall, 4Shared enforces logging in, which is counterproductive to the values of this message board.

Also, don't be afraid to include a translation of your first post in Portuguese-BR - in this specific case, I'm fairly certain it should be okay to bypass the English-language rules of the forum. (It'll help local search engine results pick up this post/thread for what it's worth.)

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent 52 / 55 Language Pack (Portuguese Brazil) :: Reply by BAVBR

2026-04-14T23:39:27+00:00

Iffy-chan wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 07:00
Nice job creating a localisation! Out of curiosity, is the localisation system of the UXP-based browser engine at all similar to earlier versions of Firefox's (key versions to look at would be 24, 38 and 52 as PM team based their code on these versions at some point or another in time), or are there significant differences that would make it nontrivial to port the localisation of one to the other?

Quote:
[/url], I reviewed the New Moon 28 PT-BR language pack (originally posted by developer JustOff) and can be accessed by clicking here: https://www.4shared.com/file/SjcESZ-qku/pt-BR_28100_RC7.html?.
Would you mind using a different file host? If I recall, 4Shared enforces logging in, which is counterproductive to the values of this message board.

Also, don't be afraid to include a translation of your first post in Portuguese-BR - in this specific case, I'm fairly certain it should be okay to bypass the English-language rules of the forum. (It'll help local search engine results pick up this post/thread for what it's worth.)

In fact, in the case of Basilisk and Serpent 52, it is very similar to Firefox 52, just with removed features and some specific additions, such as exclusive features and tags, however it can still be difficult to translate directly from the Firefox language pack; then I recommend using what I did as a base, especially for Serpent 55, which is a mix of Firefox 52 / 55 with Pale Moon, which made it particularly challenging and required many hours of work, as I did a thorough analysis, file by file (which can be difficult, in addition to many tests and corrections until reaching the final version).

As I didn't follow programming best practices and did everything manually, I am unable to point out what changed in detail, as my objective was to complete the translation and I know that this does not help much for anyone who wants to do this work; Before I had tried to automate with Claude Code but the free plan is limited and it didn't work, but whoever can automate it is a better way than what I did and could reduce the approximately 8 net hours for each package to about 30 minutes.

About New Moon, I created a release in the Basilisk repository itself: https://github.com/bav-br/basilisk-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/2024.10.06

I'm just an enthusiast, I'm learning english yet and I don't consider myself a developer, although I have a degree in systems analysis and I intend to make a post in Brazilian Portuguese on my blog.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent 52 / 55 Language Pack (Portuguese Brazil) :: Reply by Iffy-chan

2026-04-15T02:16:16+00:00

BAVBR wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 23:39

Iffy-chan wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 07:00
Nice job creating a localisation! Out of curiosity, is the localisation system of the UXP-based browser engine at all similar to earlier versions of Firefox's (key versions to look at would be 24, 38 and 52 as PM team based their code on these versions at some point or another in time), or are there significant differences that would make it nontrivial to port the localisation of one to the other?

Quote:
[/url], I reviewed the New Moon 28 PT-BR language pack (originally posted by developer JustOff) and can be accessed by clicking here: https://www.4shared.com/file/SjcESZ-qku/pt-BR_28100_RC7.html?.
Would you mind using a different file host? If I recall, 4Shared enforces logging in, which is counterproductive to the values of this message board.

Also, don't be afraid to include a translation of your first post in Portuguese-BR - in this specific case, I'm fairly certain it should be okay to bypass the English-language rules of the forum. (It'll help local search engine results pick up this post/thread for what it's worth.)
In fact, in the case of Basilisk and Serpent 52, it is very similar to Firefox 52, just with removed features and some specific additions, such as exclusive features and tags, however it can still be difficult to translate directly from the Firefox language pack; then I recommend using what I did as a base, especially for Serpent 55, which is a mix of Firefox 52 / 55 with Pale Moon, which made it particularly challenging and required many hours of work, as I did a thorough analysis, file by file (which can be difficult, in addition to many tests and corrections until reaching the final version).

As I didn't follow programming best practices and did everything manually, I am unable to point out what changed in detail, as my objective was to complete the translation and I know that this does not help much for anyone who wants to do this work; Before I had tried to automate with Claude Code but the free plan is limited and it didn't work, but whoever can automate it is a better way than what I did and could reduce the approximately 8 net hours for each package to about 30 minutes.

About New Moon, I created a release in the Basilisk repository itself: https://github.com/bav-br/basilisk-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/2024.10.06

Thank you for the rundown, I appreciate it. Very interesting.

It's not a problem that you can't point to everything that was changed/removed/added, it's helpful enough to know that it's not going to be an especially 'quick-and-dirty copy-paste' job, but there are indeed many similarities with these builds of FF/PM/Basilisk

BAVBR wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 23:39
I'm just an enthusiast, I'm learning english yet and I don't consider myself a developer, although I have a degree in systems analysis and I intend to make a post in Brazilian Portuguese on my blog.

There's a few small mistakes in your writing, but nothing that really stuck out to me as particularly annoying. I'd say you tend to overuse conjunctions where a full stop would probably be more appropriate, which makes some of it a bit difficult to follow at times.

Also, appropriate music to post for this thread, even if it's from a mobile game.

Community ISOs :: Windows 7 Updated v5: Stuck at “ClassPNP.SYS” :: Reply by HJY-2Best

2026-03-19T00:06:36+00:00

sillydude12 wrote: * 03 Mar 2026, 16:02
I installed this iso on my HP Pavillion gaming laptop 15-ec2008ca, I had to add UEFI7 to get it past the “setup is updating registry settings” and after that it stays on the starting windows screen. When i booted into safe mode, it got stuck on classpnp.sys. If anyone could help out it would be greatly appreciated!

You probably didn't wipe/delete your original Windows OS 1st (just formatting will NOT work) ...then do a "Fresh" install using the Windows 7 Updated v5 release.

It's a favorite of my friends, family & myself ...but you should check out the free App "Ventoy" which is awesome for installing Windows OS & Linux Operating Systems.

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Author demaxxander04

2026-04-10T12:01:04+00:00

What is Windows 11 Retrograde?
Windows 11 Retrograde is a Windows modification based on Windows 11 IoT LTSC 2024, which tries to remind Windows XP, if it was made in current times, albeit without bloatware like Copilot, Edge or others.
Features:
• nostalgic vibe of Windows XP
• various vintage games included (featuring classics, such as Solitaire, Pinball, Purble Place and others!)
• no bloatware featured in regular Windows 11 editions
• a slightly better performance than stock Windows 11
• no TPM or Secure Boot requirements
• limited 16-bit support, provided by OTVDM

Version 5.11_4 ISO Download
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BFFCY6NEsqELpxP5QvR0mMC_knWcaJR4/view?usp=sharing

If you encounter an issue with the 0xC0000005 installation error, you have to restart it

Raytek forum post:
https://forum.raytek.cafe/viewtopic.php?t=76

Can I run this on real machine?
Yes you can, but I must recommend to install on VM first and then if you are comfy enough to use it as daily drive OS, you can use it on your host

What are system requirements for this mod?
This modification of the operating system has the same requirements as Windows 11 IoT LTSC 2024, which can be checked at Microsoft’s website.
The OS doesn’t require TPM 2.0 nor Secure Boot to work, due to its base.

Is Windows pre-activated?
For legal reasons, Windows is not activated. You need to activate Windows yourself.

How do get store on this mod?
Use this command on powershell as administrator:

Code: Select all

wsreset -i

If it doesn't work, you can try this: https://github.com/minihub/LTSC-Add-MicrosoftStore

Do games work on this mod?
Yes! but for UWP games (Forza Horizon series for example) require Xbox dependencies to run:

AppInstaller, Xbox Identity Provider, Xbox GameBar, Xbox app

For more information about this modification: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13qO60P6LSIITO2f4inOlHzPaWXYHZbEj/view?usp=sharing

Other Screenshots:
- Setup (Rectify11 2.5 modified):

- Multicolor Variant:

- Light Theme:

- Paranoid Theme:

- Luna Theme (Beta):

- Windows 11 (Bloom):

- Shutdown prompt:

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-10T14:19:22+00:00

demaxxander04 wrote: * 10 Apr 2026, 12:01
albeit without bloatware like Copilot, Edge or others.

I haven't allowed it internet access, but it looks like Edge is included and attempts to update at every boot.

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Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by enmanuel

2026-04-11T00:15:37+00:00

Interesting mod, i quite like the themes.

One important thing i must ask: Does it have support for Windows Update and Windows Defender? It's basically what i look for in a custom Windows 11 ISO.

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-11T04:55:31+00:00

Yes it does.

But... GOOD LUCK WITH THAT !!! Those are the first things I want ***REMOVED*** in a custom 11 (or even 10) !!! !!! !!!

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by demaxxander04

2026-04-11T10:33:01+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 10 Apr 2026, 14:19

demaxxander04 wrote: * 10 Apr 2026, 12:01
albeit without bloatware like Copilot, Edge or others.
I haven't allowed it internet access, but it looks like Edge is included and attempts to update at every boot.

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I don't think it will ever install or run Edge even if the update service still exists and I think that's normal, I used this script to remove it: https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6

I used it for so long and still didn't got Edge!

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by demaxxander04

2026-04-11T10:33:21+00:00

enmanuel wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 00:15
Interesting mod, i quite like the themes.

One important thing i must ask: Does it have support for Windows Update and Windows Defender? It's basically what i look for in a custom Windows 11 ISO.

Yes it does have support

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by demaxxander04

2026-04-11T10:38:20+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 04:55
Yes it does.

But... GOOD LUCK WITH THAT !!! Those are the first things I want ***REMOVED*** in a custom 11 (or even 10) !!! !!! !!!

If you want Windows Update disabled, you can actually use this script (C:\Windows\windows-update-disabler-main) pre-included in this mod, even says in the readme documents!
For Defender, you can download Defender Control to disable it but you have to turn off Real Time Protection before using it!

I recommend doing system restore backup before doing anything!

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-11T10:48:46+00:00

demaxxander04 wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 10:33
I don't think it will ever install or run Edge even if the update service still exists and I think that's normal, I used this script to remove it: https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6

I used it for so long and still didn't got Edge!

I for one don't like the word "think", but I can look past that (for now).

Also, I would prefer an ENTIRE LIST of scripts that were used, no matter how big or small that ENTIRE LIST is.

Also, what the H#LL is "everything.exe", "flow.launcher", etc. Seems this build has a TON of stuff ADDED.
TRUST is gained by providing that LIST upfront also!
I can *NOT* "trust" a build like this, no way, no how! But a LIST of what was ADDED would go a *VERY LONG WAY* towards 'gaining that trust'.

ie, I already have scripts that remove EDGE. And I don't have any Edge Updater running in the background! Nor that gigantic folder wasting space.
And I'm one of those old-schooler's still using QUICKEN for my checking account!
IT REQUIRES WEBVIEW RUNTIME, so no, that Edge Updater is not needed.

ps - sure, a great project!
BUT... folks that share things like this have to have the "skin" to be able to listen to both "positive" *AND* "negative" feedback...
I'm just saying that from what I have seen, I CAN NOT "TRUST" THIS BUILD.
And that is BEFORE allowing it internet access and logging any "activity" that this build does that a "normal" 11 does not do!
Or, preferrably, logging any "activity" that this build does NOT do that a "normal" 11 DOES do!

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by demaxxander04

2026-04-11T11:11:56+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 10:48

demaxxander04 wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 10:33
I don't think it will ever install or run Edge even if the update service still exists and I think that's normal, I used this script to remove it: https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6

I used it for so long and still didn't got Edge!
I for one don't like the word "think", but I can look past that (for now).

Also, I would prefer an ENTIRE LIST of scripts that were used, no matter how big or small that ENTIRE LIST is.

Also, what the H#LL is "everything.exe", "flow.launcher", etc. Seems this build has a TON of stuff ADDED.
TRUST is gained by providing that LIST upfront also!
I can *NOT* "trust" a build like this, no way, no how! But a LIST of what was ADDED would go a *VERY LONG WAY* towards 'gaining that trust'.

ie, I already have scripts that remove EDGE. And I don't have any Edge Updater running in the background! Nor that gigantic folder wasting space.
And I'm one of those old-schooler's still using QUICKEN for my checking account!
IT REQUIRES WEBVIEW RUNTIME, so no, that Edge Updater is not needed.

ps - sure, a great project!
BUT... folks that share things like this have to have the "skin" to be able to listen to both "positive" *AND* "negative" feedback...
I'm just saying that from what I have seen, I CAN NOT "TRUST" THIS BUILD.
And that is BEFORE allowing it internet access and logging any "activity" that this build does that a "normal" 11 does not do!
Or, preferrably, logging any "activity" that this build does NOT do that a "normal" 11 DOES do!

everything.exe is for the Everything App and I also included Flow Launcher which it comes with Everything index plugin, if you open Search in start menu, it will redirect to Flow Launcher search!

Everything index does better job at searching files compared to Windows, this is why I included both of these and there's nothing suspicious about them!

as for the scripts:

Edge: https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6
WIndows Update: https://github.com/tsgrgo/windows-update-disabler

that's what I used for now.. I don't remember what else I used, if I do, I will let you know!

and like I told you, it does not install or re-enable Edge itself! If it was doing, then I might work on that, no problem!

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by demaxxander04

2026-04-11T11:23:04+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 10:48

demaxxander04 wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 10:33
I don't think it will ever install or run Edge even if the update service still exists and I think that's normal, I used this script to remove it: https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6

I used it for so long and still didn't got Edge!
I for one don't like the word "think", but I can look past that (for now).

Also, I would prefer an ENTIRE LIST of scripts that were used, no matter how big or small that ENTIRE LIST is.

Also, what the H#LL is "everything.exe", "flow.launcher", etc. Seems this build has a TON of stuff ADDED.
TRUST is gained by providing that LIST upfront also!
I can *NOT* "trust" a build like this, no way, no how! But a LIST of what was ADDED would go a *VERY LONG WAY* towards 'gaining that trust'.

ie, I already have scripts that remove EDGE. And I don't have any Edge Updater running in the background! Nor that gigantic folder wasting space.
And I'm one of those old-schooler's still using QUICKEN for my checking account!
IT REQUIRES WEBVIEW RUNTIME, so no, that Edge Updater is not needed.

ps - sure, a great project!
BUT... folks that share things like this have to have the "skin" to be able to listen to both "positive" *AND* "negative" feedback...
I'm just saying that from what I have seen, I CAN NOT "TRUST" THIS BUILD.
And that is BEFORE allowing it internet access and logging any "activity" that this build does that a "normal" 11 does not do!
Or, preferrably, logging any "activity" that this build does NOT do that a "normal" 11 DOES do!

"The Microsoft Edge Update service might remain, this is normal as it is required for updating WebView2."

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-11T12:06:07+00:00

demaxxander04 wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 11:11
Everything index does better job at searching files compared to Windows, this is why I included both of these and there's nothing suspicious about them!

"To each their own", as the saying goes.

We have OPPOSITE VIEWS on "searching files".
I disable/remove Windows' own "indexers" and I have NO USE in REPLACING it with something else.

Again, "to each their own".

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-11T18:56:26+00:00

You should replace Nocturne with r3dfox.

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-11T19:17:52+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 11 Apr 2026, 18:56
You should replace Nocturne with r3dfox.

I prefer Nocturne (if I had to choose between just the two).
Admittedly, I wouldn't have even TRIED IT had it not been mentioned.
It should also be noted, per its repository, it's not a Firefox fork but rather it is a r3dfox fork (ie, "improved upon").

But everyone is going to have their own PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-12T05:25:07+00:00

Improved upon what? Only difference I can see between the two browsers are the branding.

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-12T11:33:32+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 12 Apr 2026, 05:25
Improved upon what? Only difference I can see between the two browsers are the branding.

I'll have to take your word for it.
To me, Nocturne just *FEELS* more like a *STANDARDIZED* interface.
To me, r3dfox is HEAVILY THEMED for the DARK MODE USER (of which *I AM NOT*) [to each their own!].
Yeah, I can revert the STUPID dark-sh#t to FOLLOW MY OS SETTINGS, but the trapezoid tabs and title bar color just don't look STANDARD to me.

To me, it technically doesn't really matter.
Neither is my default browser, just something sitting in the background of VMs only and as a HOBBY BROWSER, never as something I use daily.
"To each their own."

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-12T14:41:41+00:00

Also you're using Imgur to host your images, I can't see them unless I am using a VPN. Please fix if you can

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by ThatRandomToast

2026-04-12T14:46:02+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 12 Apr 2026, 14:41
Also you're using Imgur to host your images, I can't see them unless I am using a VPN. Please fix if you can

Does ImgBB work in the UK (at least for now)?

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-12T14:46:36+00:00

ThatRandomToast wrote: * 12 Apr 2026, 14:46
Does ImgBB work in the UK (at least for now)?

Yeah that works from what I can tell

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-12T18:53:29+00:00

No need of a third party hosting site, just use the attachments feature of the forum like this:

Click on the "Full Editor & Preview" button:

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Then Attachments → Add files → Place inline

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Like I did in this post

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Community Projects :: WindowsVersionTroll (Compatibility Tool) :: Reply by ibay770

2026-03-19T05:17:09+00:00

thanks for making this!

Community Projects :: WindowsVersionTroll (Compatibility Tool) :: Reply by ibay770

2026-03-22T09:03:00+00:00

for context menu :https://github.com/ibay613/windowstroll/blob/main/README.md

Community Projects :: Legacy RootCertificate And SHA-2 Update Pack For Older Windows (Created By Me In 2022 And Reuploaded) :: Reply by ibay770

2026-03-22T09:05:54+00:00

link is down. Found this though.

https://github.com/user-attachments/files/23815017/Rootcertupdater.zip

Community Projects :: Legacy RootCertificate And SHA-2 Update Pack For Older Windows (Created By Me In 2022 And Reuploaded) :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-22T17:48:45+00:00

Thanks

I still have the files from the OP though, I've attached the smallest one to this post and I'll post the other one on some hosting site because it's too large for an attachment.

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Community Projects :: Legacy RootCertificate And SHA-2 Update Pack For Older Windows (Created By Me In 2022 And Reuploaded) :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-22T23:26:04+00:00

XP-8.x SHA2 updates.zip:
https://upload.disroot.org/r/q6ZMamFJ#n85nTXzGfMxlSrwJnuY5ffmxhw4Oanu6i7XhCHupWjs=

Expiration: Tuesday, April 7, 2026 at 00:21 CET

I've also found this, which is supposed to work on any Windows version since XP:
https://github.com/asheroto/UpdateRootCertificates

But I've not tried it and there are warnings on VirusTotal:
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/77898603ecb62cd3399ccb2c346b83629c6edc70724c647322967e67bb5865a0

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-03-29T12:14:35+00:00

OFFICIALLY THE FASTEST XUL BROWSER
DACTYLOIDAE 13 "WARP" OUT NOW
https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae/UXP/releases/tag/13.0

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-29T17:01:35+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 29 Mar 2026, 12:14
OFFICIALLY THE FASTEST XUL BROWSER

Please post a screencap or two that backs up this. Thanks.

ie, I **AA BB AA NN DD OO NN EE DD** XUL a year or two ago because of how DAMN SLOW they are/were.

I kinda have no plans to even try another XUL without some sort of "reason" and speed would be a reason.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-29T22:03:49+00:00

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-03-29T22:50:57+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 29 Mar 2026, 17:01

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 29 Mar 2026, 12:14
OFFICIALLY THE FASTEST XUL BROWSER
Please post a screencap or two that backs up this. Thanks.

I kinda have no plans to even try another XUL without some sort of "reason" and speed would be a reason.

SPEEDOMETER 2.1
Pale Moon 34.1.0 AVX2 - 22.3
Dactyloidae 13.0-pre1.1 SSE2 - 33.7

This is also the first XUL browser to get e10s stable and enabled *by default*, which is also another major pain point, so now one page freezes instead of the whole browser.

YT Polymer loads 3x faster, crashes are less common, etc. Most of these changes will be backported to Eclipse Hydra/Lun3r first, then upstream UXP.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-30T08:53:21+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 29 Mar 2026, 22:50
SPEEDOMETER 2.1
Pale Moon 34.1.0 AVX2 - 22.3
Dactyloidae 13.0-pre1.1 SSE2 - 33.7

Thanks !!!

Can you also please share the CPU and RAM of the test PC?
And were these tests performed on true hardware? Or a VM?

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-03-30T10:01:43+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 30 Mar 2026, 08:53

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 29 Mar 2026, 22:50
SPEEDOMETER 2.1
Pale Moon 34.1.0 AVX2 - 22.3
Dactyloidae 13.0-pre1.1 SSE2 - 33.7
Thanks !!!

Can you also please share the CPU and RAM of the test PC?
And were these tests performed on true hardware? Or a VM?

ThinkPad T480 - 32GB DDR4, i5 8350U
Real hardware.

Another user tested it on a AMD Athlon 64 X2 (?) and got similar results

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-30T10:28:11+00:00

I'm afraid that isn't going to be "fast enough" for my usage.

My real hardware is slower and older but scores more than twice as fast on a "competing browser".
The redacted tab is just to hide my email address being shown on that tab.

Slower by 18% or 48% depending on how you count it.
On an e10s browser, it's that 48% that's technically more important, not the "single thread rating" of 18%.

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-30T10:37:21+00:00

ps - that is not to undermine the endeavor, looks like GREAT WORK and FINALLY somebody coming along that seeks to improve true PERFORMANCE !!!
Just saying that *I* don't gain anything from it on *my* hardware and *my* OS.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-03-30T10:40:11+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 30 Mar 2026, 10:28
I'm afraid that isn't going to be "fast enough" for my usage.

Slower by 18% or 48% depending on how you count it.
On an e10s browser, it's that 48% that's technically more important, not the "single thread rating" of 18%.

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I'm doing more work to optimise the browser engine even further, I think the only pain points in Speedometer for me is jQuery and React

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-30T10:54:09+00:00

Keep up the great work!
ps - my Speedometer 2.1 score of 71.0 is *WITH* several extensions also loaded.
My "baseline" (just the browser and some flags/settings changes, no extensions) is close to FOUR-AND-A-HALF times faster.
On a laptop that is older and slower than your test machine. And also 8GB RAM to your 32GB RAM.

Again, GREAT WORK and somebody finally came along to improve PERFORMANCE.
Just that I, as the end user, really has to use what is best for me and my OS.

I was still on XP just a year or two ago.
There comes a point in time where the end user has to ADMIT that they (myself included !!!) is lying to themselves when they (myself included !!!) shout from rooftops on how much "better" (have to include "air quotes") their (myself included !!!) "legacy OS" 'is'. Not to be misread. 10 and 11 *sucks*. But they **CAN** be modified into truly awesome (but don't hold your breath expecting Microsoft to do that for you, lol).

Baseline without any extensions:

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-30T11:10:54+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 30 Mar 2026, 10:40
I'm doing more work to optimise the browser engine even further, I think the only pain points in Speedometer for me is jQuery and React

I can obtain Speedometer 2.1 scores on my older and slower laptop.
But at this stage, I think I'll delay until further optimizations are in place.

If I remember correctly, the "other" UXP browsers that I ran on this older-and-slower only scored in the SINGLE DIGITS.
But I'm not 100% sure on that from memory. That could be the even older and even slower computer used out in the garage.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-04T22:54:53+00:00

HELP NEEDED!
Trying to get a macOS build going, and I am stuck.
https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae/UXP/issues/5

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-13T19:04:59+00:00

Aside from performance-wise issues (I will fix that in 13.2 trust), what else would you like to see in Dactyloidae 13.2?

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-13T19:17:54+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 13 Apr 2026, 19:04
Aside from performance-wise issues (I will fix that in 13.2 trust), what else would you like to see in Dactyloidae 13.2?

Is Widevine L1 support possible?

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-13T22:54:18+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 13 Apr 2026, 19:17

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 13 Apr 2026, 19:04
Aside from performance-wise issues (I will fix that in 13.2 trust), what else would you like to see in Dactyloidae 13.2?
Is Widevine L1 support possible?

That'll be expensive as fuck, I wish I could add Winevine support fr

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by Iffy-chan

2026-04-14T05:34:57+00:00

Windows XP x64 SP2
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ with 4GB RAM/1TB HGST SSD on nForce 630a

My benchmark scores are awful especially compared to what I saw above... Tested with a default profile. Chrome 49 scored more than twice as well, which is from over a decade ago at this point. The actual processor is from December 2006, so pretty much time-relevant to XP itself, I suppose.

I'll be honest, even the latest Firefox versions are not great to use on modern OSes, purely because SpiderMonkey is just not suited for the modern web's 'run everything as a JavaScript app and reimplement everything in it' philosophy (and for other reasons, like the fact Firefox is Chrome for people who think they're fighting The System, but it's actually funded by The System). (Interestingly, the author of that particular page I linked uses Pale Moon on Slackware, which amuses me considering Moonchild is actively hostile to Slackware users...)

For older, pre-2015 websites that didn't decide to jump on this bandwagon (yet), I guess I can see this being useful, but then again, literally any browser would do for those sites as long as it supports the relevant certificates. Not to mention that the amount of UXP forks is beginning to make the whole Pale Moon scenario look like this... actually, isn't that just the Windows Legacy communities in general?

The Edge-mimic theme is actually quite nice and really close to how I remember the original MS Edge looking, which IMO was a pretty underappreciated browser back then, however, though the menu bar being enabled by default on XP is probably not a good idea (and it shouldn't overlap the top bar like that, either).

Also, I'm really struggling to pronounce the name consistently. Maybe it's just me.

Don't let any of this put you off, however. It's not my fault web developers have an intellect that would make Nep look like a genius.

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-14T07:48:46+00:00

Iffy-chan wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 05:34
Windows XP x64 SP2
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ with 4GB RAM/1TB HGST SSD on nForce 630a

My benchmark scores are awful especially compared to what I saw above... Tested with a default profile. Chrome 49 scored more than twice as well, which is from over a decade ago at this point. The actual processor is from December 2006, so pretty much time-relevant to XP itself, I suppose.

I'll be honest, even the latest Firefox versions are not great to use on modern OSes, purely because SpiderMonkey is just not suited for the modern web's 'run everything as a JavaScript app and reimplement everything in it' philosophy (and for other reasons, like the fact Firefox is Chrome for people who think they're fighting The System, but it's actually funded by The System). (Interestingly, the author of that particular page I linked uses Pale Moon on Slackware, which amuses me considering Moonchild is actively hostile to Slackware users...)

For older, pre-2015 websites that didn't decide to jump on this bandwagon (yet), I guess I can see this being useful, but then again, literally any browser would do for those sites as long as it supports the relevant certificates. Not to mention that the amount of UXP forks is beginning to make the whole Pale Moon scenario look like this... actually, isn't that just the Windows Legacy communities in general?

The Edge-mimic theme is actually quite nice and really close to how I remember the original MS Edge looking, which IMO was a pretty underappreciated browser back then, however, though the menu bar being enabled by default on XP is probably not a good idea (and it shouldn't overlap the top bar like that, either).

Also, I'm really struggling to pronounce the name consistently. Maybe it's just me.

Don't let any of this put you off, however. It's not my fault web developers have an intellect that would make Nep look like a genius.

I will fix all these issues (except for the name considering I already bought the damn domain lol). The menu-bar being enabled by default on XP was probably a leftover from when I forked Eclipse Hydra (which itself is a fork of Serpent, which ITSELF is a fork of Basilisk).

I want to attempt to try and get the JS engine and other noticable nit-picks of UXP optimised, and I've already did the first half of that with adding e10s for realsies (I think I am the only UXP browser to have such enabled by default)

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-14T10:37:04+00:00

I feel that ICECAT was the BEST 'fox-based browser out there. BY FAR !!!

It is the ONLY (and I do mean ***OONNLLYY***) 'fox-based I've ever seen without all of the DAMN BACKGROUND CONNECTION B&LLSH#T.

Any way to bring in that LACK OF BACKGROUND CONNECTION B&LLSH#T to Dact-Ae ???

Also, I really really REALLY HATE that uBO is "included by default" !!!

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by Iffy-chan

2026-04-14T11:45:48+00:00

OwnedByWuigi wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 07:48

It seems to be a bug in almost every Firefox-based browser for many, many years. It's even worse in Vista/7 where the text is usually unreadable, the only one who ever fixed this issue was K4sum1 and even he had to basically brute force the fix through his custom theming engine...

Good luck, you're looking at a 10+ year old codebase that was already insanely outdated and falling over a year behind Chrome at the time it was relevant. This is in part due to Mozilla forcing the rapid release schedule and a business-like attitude on a codebase that was never intended to be developed in that way, which broke add-on development. (Who can guess why, it's related to the link I posted earlier.)

The-10-Pen wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 10:37

LibreWolf?

On a note, read this page. OCSP queries and captive portals aren't blocked by IceCat, though a few other things are.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-14T11:54:18+00:00

Iffy-chan wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 11:45
LibreWolf?

H#LL NO !!!

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by Iffy-chan

2026-04-14T12:01:11+00:00

There was no need for the big capital letters, I wasn't being snappy towards you. I've not kept up with recent affairs so I don't know what is current.

That screenshot is disappointing, though reading the digdeeper page a little more thoroughly this time, somehow not surprising. There doesn't really seem to be an option outside grabbing a custom user.js file.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-14T12:23:03+00:00

That screenshot actually GREW when I clicked the refresh button a few minutes after screencapping.
LibreWolf (to me!) has always been somewhat of a MISGUIDED FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY to those that "believe their HYPE".
No browser is perfect. NONE!

Don't misread, I'm not one of those overly-paranoid folks.
But come on, 20+ connections each and every time you open your browser?
Icecat has ZERO. Ungoogled Chromium has ZERO. But I can't Netflix in either of them!

I used to publicly tweak/modify a browser called 360Chrome and it too had ZERO (I actually still use it, but only for email and SMS).
But don't ever use the untweaked/unmodified !!! I never allowed it any internet connection !!!
But I also didn't "need to" be able to run Netflix back in the day and age I used 360Chrome.
Did it work with Netflix? Don't know, to be honest. I was also on XP at that time and my life has changed since.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-14T15:58:29+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 10:37
I feel that ICECAT was the BEST 'fox-based browser out there. BY FAR !!!

It is the ONLY (and I do mean ***OONNLLYY***) 'fox-based I've ever seen without all of the DAMN BACKGROUND CONNECTION B&LLSH#T.

Any way to bring in that LACK OF BACKGROUND CONNECTION B&LLSH#T to Dact-Ae ???

I’ll see what IceCat does to stop background connection and add it as a preference in Dactyloidae. I feel like it’ll break some stuff though with extensions such as SponsorBlock which genuinely needs background connections.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-14T23:54:34+00:00

holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-15T01:24:45+00:00

wuggy wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 23:54
holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?

Dact-ae is *VERY* tame considering THIS is what Official (I used PortableApps, the results are the same!) Firefox looks like on its VERY FIRST LAUNCH.
Fresh OS install, very first install-and-launch of Firefox.
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox *with* an internet connection active.
Install with internet DISABLED COMPLETELY, jump through about six hundred and sixty six "hoops" to CONFIGURE IT, et cetera.
So that at least FUTURE launches don't reach out to OVER TWO HUNDRED connections !!!

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by Iffy-chan

2026-04-15T01:37:42+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 15 Apr 2026, 01:24
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox

FTFY

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-15T02:09:03+00:00

1) that snippet is only part of my original, ie, OUT OF CONTEXT

2) I really have no clue what "FTFY" stands for. F..k That F..k You ???

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-15T02:20:41+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 15 Apr 2026, 01:24

wuggy wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 23:54
holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?
Dact-ae is *VERY* tame considering THIS is what Official (I used PortableApps, the results are the same!) Firefox looks like on its VERY FIRST LAUNCH.
Fresh OS install, very first install-and-launch of Firefox.
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox *with* an internet connection active.

Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-15T02:32:01+00:00

wuggy wrote: * 15 Apr 2026, 02:20
Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1

That doesn't look correct.
For one, you would have had to disable Dact-ae's default schemery of installing uBO without asking you if you want uBO.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

2026-04-15T02:42:17+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 15 Apr 2026, 02:32

wuggy wrote: * 15 Apr 2026, 02:20
Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1
That doesn't look correct.
For one, you would have had to disable Dact-ae's default schemery of installing uBO without asking you if you want uBO.

I never got the uBO bundling to work for me, even on a fresh profile.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-15T04:30:51+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 15 Apr 2026, 01:24
jump through about six hundred and sixty six "hoops" to CONFIGURE IT, et cetera.
So that at least FUTURE launches don't reach out to OVER TWO HUNDRED connections !!!

Once again you are talking about DNS queries and not established connections. We already had this discussion:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=7151#p7151

If you want to see active connections then use TCPView: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/tcpview
or NetworkTrafficView if you want to use another tool from NirSoft: https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/network_traffic_view.html

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-15T21:32:32+00:00

You're basically the ONLY person I've heard that basically claims to IGNORE dns queries.
I'm not going to IGNORE them - THEY SHOULD NOT EXIST, you don't need a dns query unless you need to USE IT.
I've done the TCP log route also - and FIREFOX and FORKS really do make a sh#tTon of connections - until you jump through hoops.
Which is "more important" still seems a bit of "to may toe, to mah toe" to me.

You really do not need a "dns lookup" unless you need to USE IT, *they should not exist* and I view it as *biased* to think otherwise.
Sorry, just do.

BOTH of them are CONNECTIONS to the OUTSIDE WORLD.
NEITHER should exist unless the USER opts to connect to anywhere within that outside world.
NO browser should EVER have to connect to the OUTSIDE WORLD just because it was OPENED and the user hasn't even told it WHERE TO GO yet.

That really is a BIG DEAL to me. NO OUTSIDE WORLD CONNECTIONS just because I opened a d@mn web browser!

ps - reading or posting here lately is a bit of a NIGHTMARE... spinning circles for SEVERAL minutes... Ugh...

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by enmanuel

2026-04-15T23:19:00+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 14 Apr 2026, 10:37
Also, I really really REALLY HATE that uBO is "included by default" !!!

Well, why? I really like uBO for content blocking. And even if you did hate it, can't you just uninstall? I didn't get the uBO bundle when i upgraded from 13.0 to 13.1 so sorry for any mistakes

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-16T00:02:58+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 15 Apr 2026, 21:32
BOTH of them are CONNECTIONS to the OUTSIDE WORLD.

No.
One and only DNS server is not the whole outside world.
Plus you are not sending data, telemetry or whatever else information to a DNS server but only the resolution request of a domain name to an IP number.
Nothing else.

Not to mention that many things on your computer are connecting to the outside world once you simply boot it. The video driver is one example but many parts of the OS are also making connections to the outside world.

If you don't want connections that you can't control then don't even connect your computer to the internet.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-16T00:11:41+00:00

True. But that doesn't mean I "need" those BS 'requests'. I don't like them happening and so I use browsers that do not have them.

And you keep overlooking, it's not simply about the DNS because TCPs *also occur*.
I personally think DNSs are easier to track because I always have to do *DOZENS* (plural!) of IP Address Lookups when parsing a TCP log. So yeah, I prefer the DNS logs because they don't require that tedious task.

To Each Their Own.
None of my browsers ping a DNS server just because I open it.

Your computer, your rules.
My computer, my rules.

NOTHING ELSE.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-16T00:15:23+00:00

enmanuel wrote: * 15 Apr 2026, 23:19
I really like uBO for content blocking.

As do I !!! !!! !!!
But I intentionally use an OLDER version and I have personally HEAVILY modified it.
Something I do not want to do each and every time a USELESS update is rolled out.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

General Chat :: Memes on Eclipse! :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-17T22:40:48+00:00

General Chat :: Ad trackers now account for over 10 percent of global internet traffic :: Author xperceniol_sal

2026-04-02T14:00:36+00:00

From Betanews!

https://betanews.com/article/ad-trackers-now-account-for-over-10-percent-of-global-internet-traffic/

AdGuard has released its latest Ad Trackers Report, an annual look at how advertising and tracking systems affect internet traffic worldwide. The report shows that ad trackers accounted for 10.22 percent of global internet traffic in 2025, marking a clear increase compared to the 7.84 percent recorded in 2024.

The figures reflect what the company describes as "raw requests", meaning the initial connections made when a page loads. These requests are often invisible to users but are triggered alongside normal website content.

SEE ALSO: The rise of AI search is creating 'invisible visits' across the web

A single ad-related request can also trigger additional background calls to other services. AdGuard estimates that blocking one primary request prevents an average of 4.17 additional requests from taking place, showing how quickly traffic can multiply behind the scenes.

North and Central America recorded widespread increases across most countries included in the dataset. The United States rose from 6.61 percent to 10.25 percent, while Mexico climbed from 7.49 percent to 11.61 percent during the same period.

South America showed similarly steady growth, with several countries moving from mid-single-digit levels into double digits. Peru increased from 6.60 percent to 12.51 percent, while Colombia and Ecuador also recorded jumps into the 11 percent range.

Europe presented a more uneven pattern, with faster growth concentrated in Eastern and Southeastern countries. Belarus rose from 7.61 percent to 13.20 percent, while Greece and Serbia also moved into double-digit levels.

Western and Northern Europe showed slower changes overall. Countries including Spain, Italy, and France recorded moderate increases, while Germany and the Netherlands continued to post lower figures compared to much of Eastern Europe.

Asia displayed mixed results depending on location. Countries such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia crossed into double digits, while India saw a slight drop from 12.48 percent to 11.12 percent despite remaining at relatively high levels.

Africa recorded some of the biggest increases overall. South Africa rose from 7.80 percent to 13.69 percent, with Nigeria, Egypt, and Morocco also entering double-digit territory.

Across all regions, the report shows a consistent upward trend rather than isolated spikes.

You can view the full report here.

General Chat :: Ad trackers now account for over 10 percent of global internet traffic :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-02T18:07:25+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 02 Apr 2026, 14:00
You can view the full report here.

Here is there:
https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-ad-tracker-report-2025.html

General Chat :: Ad trackers now account for over 10 percent of global internet traffic :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-02T18:47:18+00:00

It's always a punch-in-the-gut re-awakening whenever I have to turn my adblockers off for a "trusted" website (that has no ads to begin with!).
But then forget to turn the adblockers back ON when navigating away from that trusted website.
A gigantic, "Holy Crap! I forgot that the web was this plastered with ads!"

General Chat :: Ad trackers now account for over 10 percent of global internet traffic :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-02T19:01:55+00:00

I think I read somewhere that AI accounts for *THIRTY* percent.
We should be more concerned with that.
Granted, the ad traffic is an EYESORE and the AI traffic is "out of sight, out of mind".

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-17T22:38:43+00:00

Giving the TV Show a try and we'll see.

https://popcornflix.com/tv-shows/10604475/s01-e01-cape-town

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-03T22:30:27+00:00

Travelers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelers_(TV_series)
https://travelers.fandom.com/wiki/Travelers_Wiki
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5651844

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-18T07:09:31+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 16 Mar 2026, 22:46
(Some?) Muslim women have their faces covered too. I've seen them right across the road where I live in the past.

Also seen AT MY PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT.

However:
NOT RELEVANT... I'll even label this "so-called comparison" as "intentionally misleading the public"...

We all know the difference between a "hoodlum" hiding his face so that he can do ILLEGAL ACTIVITY versus *ANY* comparison you throw at me!
HOODLUMS wear "masks" so that they can LOOT, so that they can RIOT, so that they can KIDNAP GRANDMA and seek ransom in bitcoin!

We've all seen the news. We all know these MASKED HOODLUMS! I'm *ALL FOR* a system of justice that NO LONGER refers to them as "suspects" if they are not only caught on camera but DOZENS OF WITNESSES (ie, ARREST ON SITE, THROW IN THE SLAMMER). It is the mere existence of those CAMERAS being the very REASON that these HOODLUMS wear that MASK.

They are not wearing that mask for "health and safety".
They are not wearing that mask as part of a religious "act of faith".

WE ALL KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. This isn't "rocket science".
Kind of akin to International Humanitarian Law (Geneva Conventions III and IV and Hague Regulations) that require military to wear uniforms.

Is it "profiling"? Yeah, to an extent. But again, military wear uniforms FOR A REASON. HOODLUMS wear masks FOR A REASON. Profile away, I'm okay with that! But there is a difference between "profiling" a HOODLUM (with SEVERAL run-in's with THE LAW and ON PROBATION from those run-in's [put an ankle bracelet on the POS and arrest-on-site if hiding his face from public cameras!]) versus "profiling" a LEGIT RELIGIOUS RITE (with ZERO run-in's with THE LAW and to be HIGHLY RESPECTED in this "godless age")!

Again, "it's not rocket science".

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by wuggy

2026-03-18T14:09:28+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 16 Mar 2026, 22:59
My state is purple.

I'm basically "purple". But I do not live in a Third World Country and will not walk around with any of those THIRD WORLD MENTALITY masks on !!! I have my freedom and I will not wear a mask, will not be mandated into any shot (which have long-standing side effects not known until years later!), et cetera...

what is 'purple'? i'm not too engrossed in american politics

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-03-18T14:16:27+00:00

Sorry, didn't mean to mislead, just random observation. In those cases, having covered faces may be more of, well, just another form of being oppressed. At least that's how I see it.

I'm not familiar with colors meaning in terms of US' states either.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-18T14:28:06+00:00

In US politics, a Red State is a state that ALWAYS votes Republican, no matter how STUPID or RETARDED the Republican candidate is.
A Blue State is a state that ALWAYS votes Democratic, no matter how STUPID or RETARDED the Democratic candidate is.

Red State examples would be Florida, Texas, Tennessee, Ohio.
Blue State examples would be California, New York, Illinois, Oregon, Massachusetts.

A Purple State is what some also refer to as a Swing State.
Examples are Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona.

https://purplestatesofamerica.org/

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-19T01:05:06+00:00

Please stay on topic before it's going too far.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-19T17:54:30+00:00

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by wuggy

2026-03-21T08:28:41+00:00

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-21T10:39:18+00:00

Hey, it is what I am listening to for a project later today.
Nobody said I had to be listening to music, lol.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-24T23:07:44+00:00

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-31T21:44:16+00:00

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-04-03T20:17:32+00:00

At workplace, there's a radio in the office set to this one station that loops same songs over and over. Maybe they change them every once in a while. Just realized the song above is one of those they have.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-04-03T21:03:26+00:00

^Yeah, I like it but, I know, they radio tends to wear out a good song playing it over-and-over.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-04-05T12:44:27+00:00

I don't listen to much stuff anyway, rarely find something new. So when I do listen to something, it's the same old over and over again.

Hell is repetition.

General Chat :: Earthlight and Eclipse :: Author Duke

2026-04-07T20:40:09+00:00

Captured from Orion spacecraft:
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e000192/art002e000192~orig.jpg
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e009287/art002e009287~orig.jpg
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e009288/art002e009288~orig.jpg
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e009288/art002e009288~orig.jpg

And Eclipse!
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e009301/art002e009301~orig.jpg

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Dustman0192

2026-04-10T16:44:22+00:00

Hi all! Good to be here I found out about Eclipse.cx when I found r3dfox to install on my Windows 7 gaming rig. Saw you guys had a forum and decided to join up I'd like to help contribute in some way as well, just haven't had the time to really dig in and see where I'd be a good fit to help!

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-10T20:09:31+00:00

Hi and welcome to the forums!

General Chat :: Various videos :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-10T20:12:43+00:00

A Nutella Odyssey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6FwPOb_Q_M

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-17T17:36:01+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-18T07:19:03+00:00

Kind of funny how these seem to always have an "OCD Symmetry" in their duration:

2026-03-18_3-15-17.jpg

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General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-18T16:57:22+00:00

^I don't know why that is the case with my videos

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-18T19:04:12+00:00

It's nothing on your end. It's the UPLOADER having OCD and setting the length of his/her upload as "OCD Symmetric".

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-25T16:59:54+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-25T17:10:54+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by Possum98

2026-03-30T16:46:19+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-30T17:07:00+00:00

^I have all those except for the eating disorder and the Bipolar ... 'is what it is' or so they say. Good to see you btw

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by Possum98

2026-03-30T17:11:30+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 30 Mar 2026, 17:07
^I have all those except for the eating disorder and the Bipolar ... 'is what it is' or so they say. Good to see you btw

hi yes I'm still here but my main account is gone now (by my request not a ban) I will keep this account for visiting only i also use macos more it's been incredible

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-30T17:23:20+00:00

Possum98 wrote: * 30 Mar 2026, 17:11
i also use macos more it's been incredible

What is "macos" ? Some kind of taco made out of macaroni?

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-30T17:24:36+00:00

Oh, wait, partial blush moment... Did you mean macOS ???

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by Possum98

2026-03-30T17:43:10+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 30 Mar 2026, 17:24
Oh, wait, partial blush moment... Did you mean macOS ???

yes macos 10.15 catalina on an old 2012 macbook pro

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-04-01T22:45:53+00:00

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-04-05T16:31:19+00:00

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 30 Mar 2026, 17:07
^I have all those except for the eating disorder and the Bipolar ... 'is what it is' or so they say.

How do you still manage? And for how long have you been in this hell?

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-04-05T23:21:37+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 05 Apr 2026, 16:31

xperceniol_sal wrote: * 30 Mar 2026, 17:07
^I have all those except for the eating disorder and the Bipolar ... 'is what it is' or so they say.
How do you still manage? And for how long have you been in this hell?

I wouldn't say I manage all that well most of the time tbh but sometimes I OK I guess and have some good days. I've been dealing with mental health issues for 54 years (my birthday was 5 days ago) and I've always struggled for as long as I can recall. Yeah, when will I be able to gain acceptance (rq)....

How are you doing?

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-06T08:59:03+00:00

At the risk of not saying this the "right way" (communication skills), I'll go ahead and give it a try nonetheless...

Sometimes, just sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes I think you both (no offense!) just like to play the "victim card".
All of the NEGATIVITY is just where DOWNWARD SPIRALS begin. The World Sucks, blah blah blah!
FORGIVE ME if I am misreading.

Listen, please, I get it! OCD, ADHD, *ON THE SPECTRUM* [Asperger's / High-Functioning (and I *prefer* the days when they used to call it that, but they no longer do)], *extremely* HYPER, communication skills that *require* the LISTENER to have the proper UNDERSTANDING on how to even LISTEN to me, et cetera. Again, I get it!

Listen, I'm in the same boat! I really am! Everyone on the planet has "something", that's my view! Everyone! To some degree!

I'm in the same boat! But HOW is having OTHERS read the NEGATIVITY supposed to help ANYONE? Serious question! No need to "answer".
You're sitting at a computer, maybe type all of that NEGATIVITY into Notepad or Word. Save or delete after typing, your choice.
You got it "off your shoulder" by typing it! But making others read the NEGATIVITY? That part I really do not understand!
I think of it as a psychologist or counselor, all of the NEGATIVITY that goes into his/her notes IS NOT POSTED FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION.

SORRY! I just don't. And I'll say it again, I'm in the same boat. Always makes me think of EEYORE (Winnie-the-Pooh character).
Cool read on mental disorders and POOH CHARACTERS - https://blog.earkick.com/winnie-the-pooh-mental-illness-and-10-characters-explained/

I call it "steering into the skid".
Take control of the situation *NOT* by telling HR "I am disabled, my coworkers are making me uncomfortable" (paraphrasing).
I went that route once. FMLA through HR, this only made situations with coworkers *WORSE*, not better, so I *no longer* go that route!
Granted, was VERY FUN! Throw "I'm taking an FMLA Day" every time somebody stress-induced anxieties into shaking hands.
They would stand there like a deer in the headlights, "What the heck just happened? So now this isn't getting done until he comes back from FMLA?"
Rather, I don't like the group setting and do not function within it, so I've worked every Saturday for THIRTY-PLUS years.
ONLY person in the entire building! And so FOCUSED that I get done in ONE DAY what my coworkers get done in THREE DAYS.
EVERY boss over the years has "noticed". It has worked well for me. Job titles based on what I can 'do', zero college degree.
Other department boss's, "I can't give that project to him, my team feels he does not respect them and he doesn't attend group meetings."
My boss, "You have to trust me, he is the only one that WILL meet your timeline, he WILL communicate with Excel charts and graphs, it works!"

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-04-07T16:47:04+00:00

The-10-Pen wrote: * 06 Apr 2026, 08:59
Listen, please, I get it! OCD, ADHD, *ON THE SPECTRUM* [Asperger's / High-Functioning (and I *prefer* the days when they used to call it that, but they no longer do)], *extremely* HYPER, communication skills that *require* the LISTENER to have the proper UNDERSTANDING on how to even LISTEN to me, et cetera. Again, I get it!

Thank you for getting it ... I would say compare to others where I reside I'm also High-Functioning. I can shower and dress myself without assistance compare to others here. I don't cook and need permission to use the stove but I can use the microwave on my own. I'm the ONLY one that has their own computers; the other guys (and 1 girl) here only use their phones, which is sometimes a pain in the ass when others need to print something. I have to hover over their shoulder when somebody else uses my computer and I don't like it at all and they know that. I'm not hyper though but I see others and I can talk (speak) to anybody with special needs and I just skip over what I don't get. Most people here get me by now as I've lived here for quite some time and most everybody knows I'm autistic. You and I would be able to talk to each other without any issues.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-04-09T20:17:35+00:00

We're all victims of birth and various other (un)fortunate circumstances. I ramble and shout at the clouds as it often feels like the only thing I can do. And ignoring the Matrix, there simply isn't much to this whole existence.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-04-11T16:29:59+00:00

André Linoge wrote:
You don't like knowing, do you?

Mike Anderson wrote:
Not your brand of it, no.

André Linoge wrote:
Perhaps you don't believe me.

Mike Anderson wrote:
I believe you, but the thing of it is you see only the bad, none of the good.

André Linoge wrote:
By and large Constable the good's an illusion. Little fables folks tell themselves so they can get through their days without screaming too much.

Mike Anderson wrote:
I don't believe that.

André Linoge wrote:
I know. A good boy to the last. But I think you'll find yourself at the short end this time. Your town if full of adulterers, pedophiles, thieves, gluttons, murderers, bullies, scoundrels and covertous morons and I know every last one of them.

Born in lust, turn to dust. Born in sin, come on in.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by Duke

2026-04-12T18:38:55+00:00

Is the glass half empty or half full ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_the_glass_half_empty_or_half_full%3F

Your choice

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-12T18:42:01+00:00

Duke wrote: * 12 Apr 2026, 18:38
Is the glass half empty or half full ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_the_glass_half_empty_or_half_full%3F

Your choice

NEITHER !!!

I've always preferred "You need a different size of glass."

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-04-15T23:47:23+00:00

I haven't left, still here reading but very depressed and I don't want to bring others down with me. I don't know, just dark and warped thoughts as of late, I guess. I don't know what to say anymore, no words to say at this point.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-04-15T23:48:55+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 09 Apr 2026, 20:17
We're all victims of birth and various other (un)fortunate circumstances. I ramble and shout at the clouds as it often feels like the only thing I can do. And ignoring the Matrix, there simply isn't much to this whole existence.

I look up to the sky often and no answers ever come, just the same miserable existence. I think I'm too far gone at this point.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-04-15T23:49:53+00:00

Duke wrote: * 12 Apr 2026, 18:38
Is the glass half empty or half full ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_the_glass_half_empty_or_half_full%3F

Your choice

More than half empty

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-03-18T14:25:02+00:00

After some quick tests, after the conclusion was that it might just be unstable with resume only when all 3 sticks were used, the situation has worsened radically after putting things back like they were. Same symptoms after initial power up, after two power cycles, same. I unplugged the power cable of one of the disks and then it could POST, I went into BIOS to put things how they were (no CMOS battery) and after couple of seconds on the BIOS settings screen, screen went garbled. It normally responded to power button and went off, I unplugged the power and will leave it as is until new power supply arrives.

It was ordered before the situation worsened, but for all I know, it might already be too late, we'll see.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-03-18T15:20:56+00:00

Yikes! May already be too late. :/

You knocked the dust lose and made things worse.

It's like running a "detergent" through a very old engine.
The "sludge" in that engine wasn't really hurting anything clinging to NON-VITAL WALLS of the insides of that engine.
But running that "detergent" knocked the sludge off the non-vital walls and into very critical and vital moving parts of the insides of that engine.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-18T16:53:32+00:00

I'm sorry to hear of this news, UCyborg

This is why I don't dare take anything apart on my old machines for the reason(s) you mentioned the-10-pen. I'd bet my computers are already held together by the debris and sludge - better to leave things as they are when dealing with old machines. I didn't know that about a vehicle ... I'll pass this information along to my drivers and support workers.

EDIT: Fixed mistakes. Sorry!

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-03-19T18:51:08+00:00

I blow out dust every year or two. And the tests were just seeing how it works with only the original 2 RAM sticks and then with the third one on its own. There weren't any errors on Memtest86 in single pass.

Looks new PSU is not arriving before next week. Also have spare graphics card in case the current one got wonky.

Time is really dragging by now. This computer is one of the few (good) things I have in this life.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-19T23:05:42+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 19 Mar 2026, 18:51
...This computer is one of the few (good) things I have in this life...

I feel the same ... I'd be lost without my computers because I'm not social and the forum is my only outlet to the people. You'd be shocked if you knew me ... online I'm chatty but in person I'm practically a mute and extremely awkward around sheeple.

I also have mismatched RAM sticks in my PC and I get frequent memory errors and crashes. I'll put up with it so long as I can.

Good luck getting your computer back to where you need it.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-03-21T22:20:26+00:00

In similar boat when it comes to being mute in these types of situations. I wish I could navigate them better.

Regarding desktop computer, guess I'll see what still works or not next week. The laptop also got a new problem in recent months that upper and lower portion of the screen blinks in white for short periods, most often when it's turned on, seems it's triggered by lid movement.

Elections are tomorrow. No idea what to vote for. Does it even matter? For all I know, the end of the world is coming.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-03-24T23:04:08+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 21 Mar 2026, 22:20
...
Regarding desktop computer, guess I'll see what still works or not next week. The laptop also got a new problem in recent months that upper and lower portion of the screen blinks in white for short periods, most often when it's turned on, seems it's triggered by lid movement...

Any luck? Gosh, two computers on the fritz ... I hope you get things working. Good luck.

UCyborg wrote: * 21 Mar 2026, 22:20
...For all I know, the end of the world is coming...

It does feel that way nowadays.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by Duke

2026-03-25T11:11:21+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 21 Mar 2026, 22:20
For all I know, the end of the world is coming.

The end of our civilization as we know it for 2000 years, maybe.
The end of human kind, surely. Sooner or later.
But the end of the world, no. The world, our planet, has about 4 billions years to go so it will have time to try many things before being eaten by the dying sun. We, humans, are not the world, despite of what we think.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-03-26T05:51:45+00:00

I installed new PSU on Monday and things seem to be back to normal.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-04-02T19:44:27+00:00

Computer still works, sooo, going for another 17 years?

Things already feel surreal today...

Windows went a bit loco yesterday. When I opened Explorer's save dialog through Thorium, got notifications about the number of file associations being reset. Who knows what's got into it.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-03T05:43:06+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 02 Apr 2026, 19:44
Computer still works, sooo, going for another 17 years?

Don't Do It !!! I'm being dead serious! Do Not Throw More Money At That Computer!

I'm speaking from a "been there, done that" perspective.
Because I too used to throw money at computers in order to own them for TWENTY-PLUS YEARS.

I did this for THREE different computers over the span of thirty years, give or take.
Overlapping ownership, I'm not 80+ years old with the first at age 20 or late teens, lol.
Brought on through a realization from my "decade of decadence" (Motley Crue reference) of owning computers for 2.5 to 5 years before replacing.
ps - listening to this as I write the remainder of my post --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQpXUD1FCTc

So I went from the "lifestyle" of replacing a computer every 2.5 to 5 years to throwing money at them but replacing only after 20+ years.
Again, I did this on three different computers. Making a computer last 20+ years is very very VERY easy easy EASY.
It is *NOT* some "wear it on your sleeve" rite of passage into some form of Ageless Wisdom. Rather, it is the OPPOSITE.
It does 'require' THROWING MONEY AT THEM. RAM here, PSU there, CPU here, motherboard there, another round of RAM, et cetera.

In a nutshell, DON'T THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD MONEY.
You don't (though many do!) spend $1000 on tires JUST TO SELL the vehicle and the new tires got you an extra $100 on the sale price.
You're still IN THE HOLE $900.

LAW OF DIMINISHING RETURNS !!!
Hint: You already passed it by buying a new PSU instead of replacing a capacitor in the old one!
A *few* dollars for a capacitor and firing up your own soldering iron and your own labor versus spending 130-TIMES to 500-TIMES for the new PSU!

I'm not going to go as far as to say it was the "biggest mistake I ever made", it was *NOT*.
BUT... There is a point of diminishing returns. And again, you passed it by spending money for a new PSU.
I applaud the goal on one hand. Again, been there, done that.
But the other hand KNOWS FROM EXPERIENCE that 12 to 17 years is one thing!
But 20+ is something entirely different (and becomes borderline insane, again, "been there, done that").

It reminds me of a project dad had me do on a Commodore 64 in the late 80s.
He had me do an "amortization table" on his 30yr mortgage on the house we moved into when I was in my early teens.
He retired a decade or so later and another decade or so after that, he came to me with that old C64 printout (and some grade-school drawings).

It was a moment of pride for him, "Look, I bought a house for $34k in 1982 and I just sold it for $112k".
After originally listing it at $135k and taking over six months to sell !!!

It was a moment of pride for me. I handed it back to him and proudly proclaimed, "YOU LOST MONEY! You have to account for the mortgage interest, the new siding, the new furnace, the new roof, and the pool and deck you added but only used that last half-summer of ownership. Every "investment" has to account for deposits and withdrawals before you can call it a gain or a loss based solely on first number versus last number. Inflation ALONE puts you over $105k, YOU LOST MONEY."

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-04-03T20:14:28+00:00

I thought about the issue with some capacitor. Might open the old PSU some day to see if anything stands out (me and electronics, though). I just wanted a quick fix, this computer's been with me for so long that it's hard to just let go.

Money always finds the way to slip out off one's pocket. I threw more of it at dumber shit at times, even if I'm considered more of a saving type. My brother always says better spend it to have something rather than save it and have nothing.

The point of diminishing returns definitely stands. About the money part, you'd also have to get something used rather than new to save it. It's not much different from cars, huh?

In any case, I do appreciate your thoughts.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-03T22:25:01+00:00

My newest laptop is a screamer and it came from a PAWN SHOP.
Still in the original box, still had all of the plastic stretch-wrap, battery was still in a separate box.
Literally all but BRAND NEW, never used, battery never inserted.
But technically ONE YEAR OLD (okay, 10 months!).

Got it for HALF what it sells for per "MSRP".
Sure, a large bit of "right place, right time".
But it turned me into somebody that now visits PAWN SHOPS ***OFTEN*** just to look at the new arrivals.
They only take laptops and not desktops and only take one year old or younger and MUST HAVE ORIGINAL BOX.
Turns out, the PAWN SHOP works with several local BUSINESSES and basically buys their "surplus".

If your town doesn't have any PAWN SHOPS, it's WELL WORTH IT to drive the hour or two to the nearest "big city".

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

2026-04-03T23:39:14+00:00

And I totally get the money bit. More so than anyone else on the planet.
That's not bragging, that's just lessons learned the hard way!

During my college years, I had ***TWENTY SIX*** credit cards !!!
They would set up tables at the cafeteria and hand out applications like Tic Tacs.

I had a credit card debt over THREE TIMES my annual income!
NEVER late on ANY payment, NEVER late on rent! No real DIME to my name!
My dad told me to file bankruptcy and it INFURIATED ME.
I asked for "help" and he told me to file bankruptcy, saying I'd never pay all that debt.

I DID PAY IT ALL BACK !!!
*ZERO* handouts from anybody, *ZERO* debt-reduction "services".
I PAID EVERY D@MN PENNY BACK - then showed dad my statements and said TOLD YOU SO.

Truth be told and in full honesty, IT WAS BECAUSE OF 9/11 THAT I WAS ABLE TO DIG MYSELF OUT OF THAT HOLE !!!
Everything went to ZERO PERCENT balance transfer promos.
I had TWENTY SIX credit cards. All I had to do is transfer every balance to another card's ZERO PERCENT promo.
Then transfer again 6, 9, 12 months later.
NEVER late on ANY payments. I was able to keep transfering for ZERO PERCENT until that entire mountain was paid off.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

2026-04-04T00:01:01+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 03 Apr 2026, 20:14
...this computer's been with me for so long that it's hard to just let go...

I feel the same about my computer, but I refuse to throw money at it (I couldn't afford to anyway) and when it goes (giving me lots of trouble) I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

Good you got it working again, though.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by Possum98

2026-04-05T13:17:22+00:00

happy easter to all who celebrate today and if not hope you have a good day

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-04-05T14:51:03+00:00

It's just like the rest of 364 days for me.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

2026-04-11T16:37:10+00:00

Here comes the crap with the bank again. They're cancelling the old app. So I figured it might be the time activate the new one on the new phone. They send me the codes and of course it doesn't go through, app telling me they're wrong.

Then the morons write to me to delete the app and call them to get new codes. As if deleting the app ever solved anything.

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2026-04-15T23:51:44+00:00

UCyborg wrote: * 05 Apr 2026, 14:51
It's just like the rest of 364 days for me.

Easter Sucked.