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    Win10-Hater
    Post subject: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
    		+ Posted: 08 Feb 2021, 04:00
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    Hello all, I have seen that the Vista versions of some built-in apps like Snipping Tool and Sticky Notes lack in quality a little or they don't look neat and polished to match Vista's beautiful Aero interface. See how the Vista Sticky Notes app looks:
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    Eurgh, that looks unpolished.

    Also, Snipping Tool on Vista does not capture images clearly and adds a red border line, which I don't like. So, can the Win7 versions of these apps be backported to Vista? Is it as simple as copying the Win7 program folders and files over to Vista or as complicated as making whole new versions of those apps dedicated for Vista only?

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    Post subject: Re: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
    		+ Posted: 08 Feb 2021, 05:27
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    If you go to Snipping Tool options and uncheck "Show selection ink after snaps are captured", the red border disappears.

    As for the reason why most built-in win7 applications do not work on Vista, it is because they call several telemetry functions not present in Vista. I do plan on adding stubs of such functions in ntdll once we can make direct modifications to it. I had recently found a function in ntoskrnl that seems to compare the hashes of "protected" files with those in their authenticode signatures. I think it can be rigged.
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    Post subject: Re: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
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    I forgot all about the Sticky Notes application. Looks like the Office 2003 styling, a default .NET interface, the XP(!!) title bar... not really sure how on earth it was missed. Wonder what its build date is internally, looks like something from Longhorn era lmao - heck, in W7 SP1 there are files pertaining to 5.2.3663!
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    Post subject: Re: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
    		+ Posted: 09 Feb 2021, 13:55
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    I believe the Sticky Notes, much like InkBall come from XP Tablet PC Edition 2002. Even some of InkBall's UI elements remind me of the silver Luna skin.
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    Post subject: Re: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
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    You think the Vista sticky notes looks ugly? wait until you see 7's sticky notes
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    Post subject: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
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    Win10-Hater wrote: *  08 Feb 2021, 04:00
    Hello all, I have seen that the Vista versions of some built-in apps like Snipping Tool and Sticky Notes lack in quality a little or they don't look neat and polished to match Vista's beautiful Aero interface. See how the Vista Sticky Notes app looks:

    vista sticky notes.png
    Eurgh, that looks unpolished.

    Also, Snipping Tool on Vista does not capture images clearly and adds a red border line, which I don't like. So, can the Win7 versions of these apps be backported to Vista? Is it as simple as copying the Win7 program folders and files over to Vista or as complicated as making whole new versions of those apps dedicated for Vista only?
    Why don't you just use the notes gadget instead?

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    Post subject: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
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    It might be just for the hell of it, or 7's one is just that feature-rich.
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    Post subject: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
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    did you try the extended kernel?
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    Post subject: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
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    Have any of you checked the extended kernel thread recently? Sticky notes will take longer due to reimplementation of registry functions in kernel32, but calc and paint are working.
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    Post subject: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
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    win32 wrote: *  19 Apr 2021, 06:57
    Have any of you checked the extended kernel thread recently? Sticky notes will take longer due to reimplementation of registry functions in kernel32, but calc and paint are working.
    Oh yes, I checked it just now, but whenever I try to install the Feb. 2021 release of the extended kernel, on reboot, this error pops up:
    Windows did not boot successfully. The file CLFS.SYS is either missing or corrupt. Idk why this happens.

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    I actually didn't know we had OT boxes in this forum.

    Mind you, which update level are you at?
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    Post subject: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
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    win32 wrote: *  22 Apr 2021, 04:52
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    I actually didn't know we had OT boxes in this forum.

    Mind you, which update level are you at?
    March 2021, but it was the same story with all updates upto December 2019 installed.
    Edit : The same issue has been reported here on MSFN, which has be corrected by the poster, but I dunno how it was resolved.
    https://msfn.org/board/topic/181612-wip-windows-vista-extended-kernel/?do=findComment&comment=1196587

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    I didn't either, probably added by the fancy BBCode editor plugin that R3n installed a while ago. Play around in a post preview/draft as much as you like, but uh, do use them properly please :P
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    Can you like please not use the off topic boxes? They're blindingly white on the lucid blue theme.

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    R3n wrote: *  24 Apr 2021, 15:21
    Can you like please not use the off topic boxes? They're blindingly white on the lucid blue theme.


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    Post subject: Backporting the Win7 versions of some apps to Vista?
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    Win10-Hater wrote: *  22 Apr 2021, 08:37
    win32 wrote: *  22 Apr 2021, 04:52
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    I actually didn't know we had OT boxes in this forum.

    Mind you, which update level are you at?
    March 2021, but it was the same story with all updates upto December 2019 installed.
    Edit : The same issue has been reported here on MSFN, which has be corrected by the poster, but I dunno how it was resolved.
    https://msfn.org/board/topic/181612-wip-windows-vista-extended-kernel/?do=findComment&comment=1196587
    I tried installing the May 2021 release of the extended kernel, and this error did not occur!

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