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    The design is meant to be similar to how the caption bar worked on 115 ESR. The title bar is forced black stock because it's forced black or white on 10+. 8.x was the caption bar color with 115. That's what I'm going for.

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    So that's not "modern" :-D :-P :twisted: :wink:
    No offense, thanks for your work, you are almost our only hope for a Firefox based browser on Windows 7 and 8 in the future. :thumbup:
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    Hi, what .mozconfig file contents do you use to build r3dfox?
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    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/blob/release/mozconfigs/mozconfig-win

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    I've just installed version 126 and I'm not sure to like the very narrow scrollbar, maybe I just need to get used to it.
    And the new about:config is somehow strange, to me it's making things visually harder than before when I want to compare settings between browsers.

    But thanks for the fast update, well done :thumbup:
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    Duke wrote: *  14 May 2024, 21:59
    I've just installed version 126 and I'm not sure to like the very narrow scrollbar, maybe I just need to get used to it.
    You can easily undo the change by changing these back in about:config.
    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/commit/b99317de24238ed57c1beef5f3e176cadf8d4137
    Duke wrote: *  14 May 2024, 21:59
    And the new about:config is somehow strange, to me it's making things visually harder than before when I want to compare settings between browsers.
    Yeah, I should probably make it an option, and the above an option too.

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    So new release (likely 126.0.1 when it releases) will have about:confignew. I wasn't able to make the scrollbar stuff an option.

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    K4sum1 wrote: *  15 May 2024, 11:20
    So new release (likely 126.0.1 when it releases) will have about:confignew.
    Perfect! :thumbup:

    K4sum1 wrote: *  15 May 2024, 11:20
    I wasn't able to make the scrollbar stuff an option.
    Not a problem for me, I can deal with the config key values. But I'll try to get used to it for now and I'll see if it's a problem or not over time with practice.
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    I took another look at it, and I was able to make the scrollbar stuff an option woo

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    Pushed 126.0-2 which has the changes!

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    And now I know what was my problem with the scrollbar, it was not the width but the missing arrows at the top and the bottom of the scrollbar.
    But now with the new options the arrows are back even with the tiny scrollbar so everything is good for me :D
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    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/126.0-2 wrote:
    New about:config is accessible via about:confignew, classic about:config is still default.
    For me it's the other way round, about:config is the new one and about:confignew the classic default one :?
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    Duke wrote: *  16 May 2024, 13:20
    And now I know what was my problem with the scrollbar, it was not the width but the missing arrows at the top and the bottom of the scrollbar.
    But now with the new options the arrows are back even with the tiny scrollbar so everything is good for me :D
    Do you happen to use 7 without DWM? If so, I wonder if my menu fixes also fixed that.
    Duke wrote: *  16 May 2024, 15:04
    For me it's the other way round, about:config is the new one and about:confignew the classic default one :?
    I must have messed that up, guess I'll correct in next release.

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    Oh, I didn't mess it up. about:config is technically new, however it's the classic version that has been around for ages and was replaced somewhere in 7x/8x. about:confignew is the new version that replaced it somewhere in 7x/8x.

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    K4sum1 wrote: *  17 May 2024, 04:16
    Do you happen to use 7 without DWM?
    Nope, I'm on Windows 8.1 stock.

    K4sum1 wrote: *  17 May 2024, 06:33
    Oh, I didn't mess it up. about:config is technically new, however it's the classic version that has been around for ages and was replaced somewhere in 7x/8x. about:confignew is the new version that replaced it somewhere in 7x/8x.
    OK I misunderstood it, I expected confignew to be your new implementation.


    BTW, there are some options missing in Privacy & Security:

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    While there are present in LibreWolf and Firefox ESR:

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    Firefox Relay email, Windows single sign-on and Save and fill adresses. Not that I'm using them but I wonder if it's done on purpose or not.
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    I think Firefox Relay is removed or disabled since it relies on an external service, but I think Librewolf should disable it too idk. Something about removing it sounds familiar idk.

    Windows single sign on and authentication are likely restricted in Javascript as they likely only work on 10+. My commits add back the restrictions so broken options aren't displayed.

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    K4sum1 wrote: *  17 May 2024, 06:33
    Oh, I didn't mess it up. about:config is technically new, however it's the classic version that has been around for ages and was replaced somewhere in 7x/8x. about:confignew is the new version that replaced it somewhere in 7x/8x.
    I think there is a side effect:
    https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=5016#p5016
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    I don't know if this's the place to report bugs or not, but, I can't seem to use the Picture-in-Picture feature, it works fine with Firefox (mainly tested it on YT), but I can't seem to find, or use it in r3d, I REALLY hope that it's just a bug, and not an intentional move... if anyone knows anything, please hit me up!
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    FancyDoggy wrote: *  12 Jun 2024, 11:58
    I don't know if this's the place to report bugs or not, but, I can't seem to use the Picture-in-Picture feature, it works fine with Firefox (mainly tested it on YT), but I can't seem to find, or use it in r3d, I REALLY hope that it's just a bug, and not an intentional move... if anyone knows anything, please hit me up!
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    How do you build r3dfox browser?
    I did everything as in Firefox and building only completes when no custom mozconfig is specified.
    If I build with mozconfig you provided, then the following error appears:
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     0:01.16 W Exception when writing resource usage file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'C:/mozi
lla-source/mozilla-unified/obj-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc/instrumented\\.mozbuild\\profile_build_resourc
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    TSNH wrote: *  12 Jun 2024, 16:29
    How do you build r3dfox browser?
    I did everything as in Firefox and building only completes when no custom mozconfig is specified.
    If I build with mozconfig you provided, then the following error appears:
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     0:01.16 W Exception when writing resource usage file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'C:/mozi
lla-source/mozilla-unified/obj-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc/instrumented\\.mozbuild\\profile_build_resourc
es.json'
    That sounds like it's trying to skip straight to PGO which is odd. Maybe try clobbering? If that fails, maybe just comment out PGO.

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    Got this when I tried clobbering:
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File not found - *.py[cdo]
FIND: Parameter format not correct
    This command still did remove some contents form C:\mozilla-source\mozilla-unified\obj-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc
    The error that I wrote earlier about still appears tho.
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    Ok, i've commented-out lines about PGO, btw will this affect performance?

    And now it goes past that error, but there is a new one:
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     0:01.39 checking for the target C compiler... not found
 0:01.39 DEBUG: _cc: Looking for clang-cl
 0:01.39 ERROR: Cannot find the target C compiler
*** Fix above errors and then restart with "./mach build"
    Does it need a different C/C++ compiler than the one that gets downloaded with either MozillaBuild or bootstrap.py when you configure your system for building standard Firefox?
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    TSNH wrote: *  14 Jun 2024, 17:37
    Ok, i've commented-out lines about PGO, btw will this affect performance?

    And now it goes past that error, but there is a new one:
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     0:01.39 checking for the target C compiler... not found
 0:01.39 DEBUG: _cc: Looking for clang-cl
 0:01.39 ERROR: Cannot find the target C compiler
*** Fix above errors and then restart with "./mach build"
    Does it need a different C/C++ compiler than the one that gets downloaded with either MozillaBuild or bootstrap.py when you configure your system for building standard Firefox?
    do you use rust9x?

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    CallCatein58 wrote: *  14 Jun 2024, 17:45
    do you use rust9x?
    No I don't. WOW, I didn't know such a thing existed and it looks really cool. I'll check with that when I have time.

    Is there anywhere a list of dependencies that need to be installed to build r3dfox?
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    I need to make a how to build guide. I think you just link the latest rust9x release as a toolchain then do rustup override rust9x in the root of the r3dfox directory. Then it should work.

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    Still the same issue unfortunately :(

    I unpacked rust9x to C:\Users\myusername\rust9x and run:
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rustup default rust9x
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    Does it require Visual Studio like Pale Moon? (standard Firefox does not). And if so which version of Visual Studio and Windows SDK to install?
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    If you ran ./mach bootstrap from stock 127, it should just work. I don't think I did anything special in that regard.

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    Also you might need to remove ac_add_options --enable-bootstrap from the mozconfig.

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    K4sum1 wrote: *  15 Jun 2024, 09:35
    Also you might need to remove ac_add_options --enable-bootstrap from the mozconfig.
    Ok, thanks that did the trick, it goes past that error, but now there is a problem with Rust again
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     0:04.11 Actually using 'C:\Users\win10\.rustup\toolchains\rust9x\bin\rustc.exe'
 0:04.14 DEBUG: Executing: `rustup which cargo`
 0:04.14 DEBUG: The command returned non-zero exit status 1.
 0:04.14 DEBUG: Its error output was:
 0:04.14 DEBUG: | error: not a file: 'C:\Users\win10\.rustup\toolchains\rust9x\bin\cargo.exe'
 0:04.14 ERROR: Command `rustup which cargo` failed with exit status 1.
*** Fix above errors and then restart with "./mach build"
    rust9x does not have cargo at all (at least the default .7z package does not), so I copied all missing .exe files from standard Rust, but they are apparently not compatible with rust9x
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     0:04.11 Actually using 'C:\Users\win10\.rustup\toolchains\rust9x\bin\rustc.exe'
 0:04.14 DEBUG: Executing: `rustup which cargo`
 0:04.14 DEBUG: The command returned non-zero exit status 1.
 0:04.14 DEBUG: Its error output was:
 0:04.14 DEBUG: | error: not a file: 'C:\Users\win10\.rustup\toolchains\rust9x\bin\cargo.exe'
 0:04.14 ERROR: Command `rustup which cargo` failed with exit status 1.
*** Fix above errors and then restart with "./mach build"
    So what Cargo do you use with rust9x or how do I make it not use cargo at all?
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