Concept Eclipse Products

[the_r3dacted]

This is going to be a thread where I post various concepts that I wish I could make, but I don't have the coding or other knowledge or resources to do so.

I'm only decent with paint.net, not coding.

[the_r3dacted]

It would be a fork of Firefox 45 or 47 with working e10s, better WebExtensions support, able to quickly render Mega and VirusTotal and Discord and others, and general improvements that would come from focusing on actually improving the browser.

It would include a UI similar to Pale Moon and be 100% compatible with Pale Moon themes. Or the themes would be at least easy to port to the Lun3r browser.

[kloak]

Eclipse vibrator when

[xperceniol_sal]

I have good things to say about Lun3r - thus far it works quite well on my 2 XP Systems.

[the_r3dacted]

I have good things to say about Lun3r - thus far it works quite well on my 2 XP Systems.

I kinda stole the name from this, but it's only a basic UXP fork, not the idealized concept from here. I'm not even sure if that's obtainable without me hiring multiple skilled programmers.

[xperceniol_sal]

I have good things to say about Lun3r - thus far it works quite well on my 2 XP Systems.

I kinda stole the name from this, but it's only a basic UXP fork, not the idealized concept from here. I'm not even sure if that's obtainable without me hiring multiple skilled programmers.

Just a quick question ... is it normal with Eclipse Hydra on youtube to get the upgrade the browser nag screen even spoofed? I can not get it to go away; whereas with Lun3r this is fine on youtube - in fact better than new moon.

Thanks

[the_r3dacted]

Just a quick question ... is it normal with Eclipse Hydra on youtube to get the upgrade the browser nag screen even spoofed? I can not get it to go away; whereas with Lun3r this is fine on youtube - in fact better than new moon.

I'm not sure, but I haven't used the browser that much. I don't think there would be any core differences that would make Hydra function differently than Lun3r but idk.

[xperceniol_sal]

Well ... I still find I get the upgrade browser nag on Hydra (native US and spoofed - I think youtube knows by now) but not on Lun3r - youtube everything works well.

[xperceniol_sal]

Lun3r does very well on browser audit (only 18 warnings and 0 critical ... even mypal68 has some critical) I'm confused though because I don't know what to change/set to make those go away ... such as I thought I had strict settings and websockets disabled (as shown below) but 1 slipped though. Please let me know if you want more detailed pictures/screenshots and I'll gladly provide them.





I have to eat my words, MyPal68 also has not critical ... I was able to get it down with my handy-dandy user.js for both, but it only brought the warnings down a little and mostly the same ones.

Also to show I do have worker disabled but it still got through and my script I thought I had pretty tight, but again, some got through.





Any assistance would be greatly appreciated ... no rush though. I plan to take my meds and go to bed early so I'll catch all-y'all tomorrow lol

Good night

[Duke]

Actually R3dfox 132 had more warnings, not sure what to think about that

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[xperceniol_sal]

^Yeah, well, I do hope @K4sum1 can shine some light on this for us. Awesome there are no critical warnings at least.

[xperceniol_sal]

Well ... I'm not sure because I can't use R3dfox but as far as Lun3r I disabled the insecure cyphers but it didn't change the score any, but why leave em when I have 7 preferred/recommended secure cypher suites.

user_pref("security.ssl.disable_session_identifiers", true);
user_pref("security.ssl.errorReporting.url", "");
user_pref("security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation", true);
user_pref("security.ssl.treat_unsafe_negotiation_as_broken", true);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_dss_des_ede3_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdh_ecdsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdh_rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_des_ede3_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_1024_rc4_56_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_gcm_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_gcm_sha384", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_null_md5", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_rc2_40_md5", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_40_md5", false);
user_pref("security.tls.version.enable-deprecated", false);
user_pref("security.tls.version.min", 3);
user_pref("security.tls13.aes_128_gcm_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.tls13.aes_256_gcm_sha384", false);

[Duke]

Since the results are quite similar between different browsers (Firefox, R3dfox, LibreWolf, Lun3r) I assume it must be the Mozilla design fault.

[the_r3dacted]

^Yeah, well, I do hope @K4sum1 can shine some light on this for us. Awesome there are no critical warnings at least.

I'm not sure what this browser audit site thing is. I don't know why one would be worse than the other here.

Also this is not the thread for this.

[xperceniol_sal]

I understand!

Please do @K4sum1 let me know when you decide to update Lun3r as I'm using:

Build ID 20240714103302

Its a nice piece of software you have here.

[xperceniol_sal]

Well ... I'm not sure because I can't use R3dfox but as far as Lun3r I disabled the insecure cyphers but it didn't change the score any, but why leave em when I have 7 preferred/recommended secure cypher suites.

user_pref("security.ssl.disable_session_identifiers", true);
user_pref("security.ssl.errorReporting.url", "");
user_pref("security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation", true);
user_pref("security.ssl.treat_unsafe_negotiation_as_broken", true);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_dss_des_ede3_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdh_ecdsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdh_rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_des_ede3_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_1024_rc4_56_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_gcm_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_gcm_sha384", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_null_md5", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_rc2_40_md5", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_40_md5", false);
user_pref("security.tls.version.enable-deprecated", false);
user_pref("security.tls.version.min", 3);
user_pref("security.tls13.aes_128_gcm_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.tls13.aes_256_gcm_sha384", false);

Sorry @K4sum1 and you said this isn't the thread to address such, but I need to correct my mistake. I accidentally blocked 2 good cypher suites so scratch the above where I said you only have 7 secure suites (its actually 9) I don't want to mislead anybody in the wrong direction.

So this is all you need in your user.js:

user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_gcm_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_gcm_sha384", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);

[xperceniol_sal]

Bump

Just curious if Lun3r will receive any updates this year?

[the_r3dacted]

mayhaps

[xperceniol_sal]

mayhaps

I understand and thank you for the reply. Just look after yourself and I know something happened that is bothering you. We'll manage right now with what we have and you don't need the pressure right now. I hope things will improve you and can get your grove back. To tell you the truth, I'm actually struggling myself and this year has NOT started out very well for me and a lot of others. I think we have to bring things back to basics and appreciate what we do have and take a step back sometime and just heal. You will.

Take good care and I truly hope you feel better soon.

Sal

[Duke]

I think we have to bring things back to basics and appreciate what we do have

Yes, good days, bad days, I had that kind of feelings too. But now I believe the only way is to move on and not to hang back. Doing things is keeping you alive even if it might not be easy sometimes. To think too much is waking up the daemons we all have inside ourselves.
So yes, I did fight the bad feeelings, I will keep doing it and you will

[the_r3dacted]

Currently I'm working to r3dfox 134, then 135, and probably going to do 136. Lun3r and such are all pretty low on the priority chart. Although the more requests I get, the higher priority it gets.

[xperceniol_sal]

Currently I'm working to r3dfox 134, then 135, and probably going to do 136. Lun3r and such are all pretty low on the priority chart. Although the more requests I get, the higher priority it gets.

Thank you for your attention. Yeah, I'm wondering how many people eve know about Lun3r browser - somebody confused it with Lunar Browser over at XP Forums but I gave up on that place too after I corrected the member.

No problem, I'm a patient guy and I know you're busy.

Be well as can be.

Sal

[The-10-Pen]

Lun3r and such are all pretty low on the priority chart. Although the more requests I get, the higher priority it gets.

Yeah, I'm wondering how many people eve know about Lun3r browser

I just ran Lun3r for the first time and my trial was "unsuccessful".
My test page was Google Voice.
While I technically do *not* expect Google Voice to work in *any* Mozilla Fork, it is the only one I know that "triggers" the microphone.
What browsers are *supposed* to do is ask for *permission* to use the mic.
Lun3r (like almost *all* 'modern' Mozilla Forks based off of older Firefox bases!) *NO LONGER* has a *PERMISSIONS* setting !!!
Forks of 'newer' Firefox bases (IceCat, LibreWolf) has this in the Privacy section of the Settings page.
Forks of 'older' Firefox bases (Lun3r, Serpent, Basilisk, New Moon) *used* to have this as a popup bubble at the address bar's padlock area.
I haven't seen this (mic permission) popup bubble "work" in Serpent/Basilisk/New Moon in well over 3.5 years or so.
My only guess is that a "modern patch" applied to an "older base" broke this function *years* ago.
And I can only guess that the same has befallen Lun3r - no way to enable mic permission via GUI or addressbar popup.

[xperceniol_sal]

Forks of 'newer' Firefox bases (IceCat, LibreWolf) has this in the Privacy section of the Settings page.
Forks of 'older' Firefox bases (Lun3r, Serpent, Basilisk, New Moon) *used* to have this as a popup bubble at the address bar's padlock area.

Oh, Ok, I see. MyPal68 also has that setting in the privacy section of the setting page. I have no microphone or cam to test it. Would adding manually a Boolean "permissions.default.microphone" and setting it to zero help? I'm just tossing out ideas but hopefully somebody will know more than myself.

Good luck.

[The-10-Pen]

Unsure.

Google Voice pops this up in IceCat and WORKS after clicking Allow.

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I get no popup in Lun3r.

MyPal68 does give the popup, but Google Voice will not connect a call even after clicking Allow.

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What "engine" is Lun3r based off of?
All I am smart enough to see is that Google Voice requires a newer "engine" than MyPal68 and that IceCat's "engine" *IS* new enough.

[Duke]

I decided to remove 120mm bit from ePhone as I don't feel like making it bigger, so it's 118mm again. I also moved the action button below the fingerprint sensor.

Also apparently they're able to make new devices with older chips, Ayn launched the Ayn Thor with a lite model with the 865, and higher end models with the 8G2. Those chips are still pretty baller and I think faster than low end chips, so I edited in the possibility of reusing an older flagship chip to the post.

Cough, what has this to do with Concept Eclipse Products ?
Wrong thread I guess

[the_r3dacted]

Cough, what has this to do with Concept Eclipse Products ?
Wrong thread I guess

Listing edits I made to this post
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=4669#p4669