Pale moon as a daily driver?

Niko · Unread post by **Niko** » 27 Jun 2024, 21:10

What do you all think about Pale moon as a daily driver these days? Cause i gotta say it's still somehow quite usable it just takes time to setup up shit like u matrix (and in theory u matrix is the better option but it's really just a simulator of turning shit back on until it works or turning shit off until ads don't work.)

YouTube · Unread post by **K4sum1** » 27 Jun 2024, 23:27

I may or may not be trying cursed shit with Pale Moon.

Bird · Unread post by **Bird** » 28 Jun 2024, 19:59

Even older versions of Pale Moon take on 95% of all websites, but to be honest, it's getting noticeably more difficult out there.
For Pale Moon (or New Moon on XP) as a daily driver it's really all about script blocking. Still using the old versions of Noscript for this task.

Niko · Unread post by **Niko** » 29 Jun 2024, 11:07

K4sum1 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2024, 23:27 I may or may not be trying cursed shit with Pale Moon.

Well GL

OCCiera · Unread post by **OCCiera** » 30 Jun 2024, 07:40

Niko wrote: ↑27 Jun 2024, 21:10 What do you all think about Pale moon as a daily driver these days? Cause i gotta say it's still somehow quite usable it just takes time to setup up shit like u matrix (and in theory u matrix is the better option but it's really just a simulator of turning shit back on until it works or turning shit off until ads don't work.)

If Roytam's Serpent build counts as Palemoon, then I have been daily driving it for over a year, and it is great. The only issues I have noticed are that it refuses to load certain assets on websites sometimes, and when I attempted to use it to replace Firefox on my main computer it ran too slow for my liking comparatively. As a browser for older OS's though, it is wonderful.

Niko · Unread post by **Niko** » 01 Jul 2024, 10:24

OCCiera wrote: ↑30 Jun 2024, 07:40
Niko wrote: ↑27 Jun 2024, 21:10 What do you all think about Pale moon as a daily driver these days? Cause i gotta say it's still somehow quite usable it just takes time to setup up shit like u matrix (and in theory u matrix is the better option but it's really just a simulator of turning shit back on until it works or turning shit off until ads don't work.)
If Roytam's Serpent build counts as Palemoon, then I have been daily driving it for over a year, and it is great. The only issues I have noticed are that it refuses to load certain assets on websites sometimes, and when I attempted to use it to replace Firefox on my main computer it ran too slow for my liking comparatively. As a browser for older OS's though, it is wonderful.

Oh damn i havent heard about the Build by Roytam Serpent could you send me a link to it?

YouTube · Unread post by **K4sum1** » 01 Jul 2024, 15:34

Niko wrote: ↑01 Jul 2024, 10:24 Oh damn i havent heard about the Build by Roytam Serpent could you send me a link to it?

https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?t=35

Unread post by **amsi** » 02 Jul 2024, 07:27

K4sum1 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2024, 23:27 I may or may not be trying cursed shit with Pale Moon.

sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it should be Lun4r

Unread post by **Duke** » 13 Jul 2024, 18:52

Where is this Eclipse Lun3r available ?

YouTube · Unread post by **K4sum1** » 13 Jul 2024, 18:53

I'll get it out when I'm done with r3dfox 128 and ESR 128.

YouTube · Unread post by **K4sum1** » 14 Jul 2024, 14:16

I did it early

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/UXP/releases/tag/v2024-07-14
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/eMail/releases/tag/v2024-07-14

UCyborg · Unread post by **UCyborg** » 04 Jun 2025, 20:33

Mostly getting by with almost official Pale Moon at home (SSE2 build compiled by Nuck-TH) and official build at work. Switched to it after some time after Basilisk was abandoned by MCP, that was before it was picked up by new dev. Previously, it was Firefox until version 51 became unusable. 51 because I didn't realize at the time 52.9 ESR still had full NPAPI support.

Google's been a menace again, can't use Drive with Pale Moon anymore and number of videos don't work through Project VORAPIS (YouTube), so stuck with messy slow enlarged Polymer interface or whatever they call it these days.

And Cloudflare treats me like a criminal with frequent number of browser checks.

Niko · Unread post by **Niko** » 05 Jun 2025, 07:43

UCyborg wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 20:33 Mostly getting by with almost official Pale Moon at home (SSE2 build compiled by Nuck-TH) and official build at work. Switched to it after some time after Basilisk was abandoned by MCP, that was before it was picked up by new dev. Previously, it was Firefox until version 51 became unusable. 51 because I didn't realize at the time 52.9 ESR still had full NPAPI support.

Google's been a menace again, can't use Drive with Pale Moon anymore and number of videos don't work through Project VORAPIS (YouTube), so stuck with messy slow enlarged Polymer interface or whatever they call it these days.

And Cloudflare treats me like a criminal with frequent number of browser checks.

Cloudflare treats everyone with Tor and a VPN as a criminal sadly. As for google shit like drive I stoped using it YouTube is only a issue but thanks for letting me know. Still tempted to use it as a daily driver.

teknixstuff · Unread post by **teknixstuff** » 05 Jun 2025, 08:53

Been using Pale Moon as my daily driver for many months now and it works great! Best browser I've ever used actually. All the chromium stuff is pretty much impossible to customise, and Firefox just always felt off. Pale Moon has customisation options for everything you could want, and if it doesn't, you can write extensions to do it, and the extensions can actually do cool stuff (unlike on chromium and firefox quantum)

UCyborg · Unread post by **UCyborg** » 05 Jun 2025, 19:39

Even what can still be customized in Firefox, CSS and userchrome scripts break constantly. I don't feel like having to update them all the time. Old stuff (at least what I use) for customizing 'ol Firefox / Pale Moon interface tends to just work with minimal modifications at most.

It'd be cool if there were more tinkerers, some areas that extensions tackle aren't covered as well as when Firefox was still popular and didn't use web extensions.

Firefox is also impossible to compile form source on older humbler machines as the requirements are just nuts. I could have Ablaze Floorp at home as backup, that's closer out-of-the box to my liking, but doesn't work on CPUs without SSE 4.1 and no one is interested in compiling build without that requirement. Though font rendering is still bothersome...it ignores ClearType parameters in Windows.

teknixstuff · Unread post by **teknixstuff** » 05 Jun 2025, 19:49

K4sum1 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2024, 23:27 I may or may not be trying cursed shit with Pale Moon.

If that's considered "cursed", have you seen SubWebView?

xperceniol_sal · Unread post by **xperceniol_sal** » 05 Jun 2025, 23:29

Pale Moon was my daily driver up until they stopped supporting XP then I turned to new moon. Now I use Hydra and Lun3r along with Mypal68. I keep Arctic Foxie 360 Chrome when absolutely needed. Supermium is too much for my systems to handle.

Niko · Unread post by **Niko** » 06 Jun 2025, 08:24

Well all that stuff is good to know might install it later today on my Fedora install since I only really used pale moon on Windows. Does anyone know a good Adblock extension for it? The last time I used it on Windows 7 I couldn’t find a good working one.

Unread post by **Duke** » 06 Jun 2025, 19:56

Niko wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 08:24 I only really used pale moon on Windows. Does anyone know a good Adblock extension for it? The last time I used it on Windows 7 I couldn’t find a good working one.

What about uBlock Origin ?
https://addons.palemoon.org/search/?terms=ublock

Which redirects to this site:
https://github.com/UCyborg/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

Niko · Unread post by **Niko** » 06 Jun 2025, 20:59

Duke wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 19:56
Niko wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 08:24 I only really used pale moon on Windows. Does anyone know a good Adblock extension for it? The last time I used it on Windows 7 I couldn’t find a good working one.
What about uBlock Origin ?
https://addons.palemoon.org/search/?terms=ublock

Which redirects to this site:
https://github.com/UCyborg/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

I actually forgot to try ublock Origin lmao. I will try it then. Thanks !

Unread post by **Duke** » 06 Jun 2025, 22:56

For the record, the latest official legacy version is still available here:
https://github.com/gorhill/ublock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

xperceniol_sal · Unread post by **xperceniol_sal** » 06 Jun 2025, 22:58

Duke wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 19:56
Niko wrote: ↑06 Jun 2025, 08:24 I only really used pale moon on Windows. Does anyone know a good Adblock extension for it? The last time I used it on Windows 7 I couldn’t find a good working one.
What about uBlock Origin ?
https://addons.palemoon.org/search/?terms=ublock

Which redirects to this site:
https://github.com/UCyborg/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases

I know MC said he would retire ad block latitude in favor of this new project from our own UCyborg ... I would trust him ... he's a good person.

UCyborg · Unread post by **UCyborg** » 07 Jun 2025, 21:13

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 23:29 I keep Arctic Foxie 360 Chrome when absolutely needed. Supermium is too much for my systems to handle.

Off Topic

Thorium somehow manages to be more performant. Still newer than 360Chrome.

xperceniol_sal · Unread post by **xperceniol_sal** » 08 Jun 2025, 19:49

Off Topic

UCyborg wrote: ↑07 Jun 2025, 21:13
xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 23:29 I keep Arctic Foxie 360 Chrome when absolutely needed. Supermium is too much for my systems to handle.

Off Topic
Thorium somehow manages to be more performant. Still newer than 360Chrome.

Hi, UCyborg; unfortunately even Thorium is too slow on my systems even when I tried to rebase it - but thank you for the suggestion. I'm sort of just hanging on to these old computers until they no longer work because they are both very old

EDIT: Ok, I've managed to rebase Thorium to my needs and it now only takes 15 seconds to start up compare to almost 40 seconds as is out of the box. I'll keep it around if I need it but rarely do I need Chromium given the 3 browsers I use.

2nd EDIT: Does anybody by any chance know how to get rid of the ugly green and blue icons on Thorium? I'd like the whole thing to be gray if possible. Thank you in advance.

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