My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11

kmuland · Unread post by **kmuland** » 25 Mar 2025, 11:57

windows 11 comes from the same guys of 9-11....
a controlled demolition of privacy.

Stay away of 11/10 and have fun with older OS.

If you are forced to use 11 for any reason ... just use a single computer for that task... but do not use it as daily driver

kast_winvistauser · Unread post by **kast_winvistauser** » 07 Jun 2025, 15:55

I like xp, vista, 7
8 is a kinda start of spying and telemetry, first os with microsoft trash tho
10/11 is a spying shit which also bloats ur pc with they shit, and now they want to control u...

Bird · Unread post by **Bird** » 08 Jun 2025, 05:53

@kast: Windows XP had lots of spying as well. That activation process was also quite invasive, requiring an internet connection or the activation by phone. And if too many hardwares components got swapped, uh, must be a new computer! Activate again!

Check the network traffic on a standard Windows XP install, such a chatty little nasty piece of ...

teknixstuff · Unread post by **teknixstuff** » 08 Jun 2025, 06:57

You can decode all the activation requests and responses, and there's no personal info in it. Also, most of XP's network traffic is either looking for local network services, or looking for updates from servers that have long gone.

The-10-Pen · Unread post by **The-10-Pen** » 08 Jun 2025, 09:15

teknixstuff wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025, 06:57 there's no personal info in it

Bird wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025, 05:53 Windows XP had lots of spying as well.

Win10 *CAN* be made bloat-free!
It's just that today's "userbase" doesn't feel like they should spend the time.
It definitely gets harder and harder with each new release of Win10 and then Win11 on top of that.
I personally use a *2016* version of Win10.

The "userbase" just forgets (over, and over, and over again), then forgets again (over, and over, and over again) that it took them TWENTY YEARS to get XP to "where they like it". Okay, maybe not twenty years. But it took a LONG TIME to get XP to where we think of XP. We (the userbase) kept tinkering and tinkering and tinkering until all of us were "happy" with XP.

How many people running XP don't at least run XP-AntiSpy?

But to be honest, while some of us do tinker and tweak, I personally feel that most of us just like to biatch and whine and complain.
ie, complain about telemetry and privacy rights when it comes to Microsoft, but turn a blind eye to their social media platforms violating every privacy right in every country but hide behind legal loopholes on all of the "data" they collect.

xperceniol_sal · Unread post by **xperceniol_sal** » 08 Jun 2025, 19:47

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025, 09:15...but turn a blind eye to their social media platforms violating every privacy right in every country but hide behind legal loopholes on all of the "data" they collect...

I agree which is why I avoid all social media now.

xperceniol_sal · Unread post by **xperceniol_sal** » 08 Jun 2025, 23:03

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025, 09:15...How many people running XP don't at least run XP-AntiSpy?...

I do use that along with safe xp.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/safe_xp.html

UCyborg · Unread post by **UCyborg** » 10 Jun 2025, 18:33

Never heard of XP-AntiSpy or Safe XP.

When it comes to Windows 11, I'm more curious what they were changing in its DirectMusic implementation after all these years. It broke some music playback in Drakan: Order of the Flame, something about the (mis)handling of empty RIFF chunks.

And what happened to implementation of Win9x heap manager that functioned well since WinXP days (living as compatibility shim EmulateHeap for buggy apps with certain kind of memory management bugs).

If I center window on one screen, send it to other screen, why window manager no longer sets its relative position like it was on previous screen? Intentional or not?

What about old builds of Half-Life cause DWM to constantly hog one CPU core?

I also found an odd temporary way to prevent screen off and eventually sleep to kick. Set taskbar to auto hide, click the desktop. Desktop is set to now show icons and background changes periodically. Though this is on Win11 23H2 with ExplorerPatcher etc.

I imagine with all possible combinations of hardware and 3rd party software, actually supporting Windows must be a nightmare.

Unread post by **Duke** » 30 Oct 2025, 00:17

Interesting video:

Your Windows 11 Computer’s Hidden Spy: The Dark Truth About TPM Chips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1eX_vvAlUc

The-10-Pen · Unread post by **The-10-Pen** » 30 Oct 2025, 07:54

Wow! I hadn't realized that TPM was *THAT* bad!
I only have one laptop that has TPM.
It came with Win11 but it was never online for just shy of two months of ownership.
It took me that long to attempt to tweak Win11 to my liking.
It eventually ended up with Win10 21H2 before I could get that laptop to my satisfaction.
Only then did it get permission to have online access.
None of my computers ever connect until I say so.

The-10-Pen · Unread post by **The-10-Pen** » 30 Oct 2025, 08:11

As far as Device Manager is concerned, TPM is disabled at the driver/OS level on that laptop.
I'll have to wait until my next reboot to see if I disabled it at the BIOS level.
Unsure if that's really important or not since it *IS* currently disabled at the driver/OS level.

Unread post by **Duke** » 30 Oct 2025, 11:56

It's not only about the TPM but the links between all this MS sh*t they call features and our MS account.
Evil

The-10-Pen · Unread post by **The-10-Pen** » 30 Oct 2025, 14:06

I do not have a Microsoft Account.
Installing Windows (even Win11!) WITHOUT one is really not that difficult.

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