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TSNH
Post subject: Will there be r3dTor?
+ Posted: 07 Aug 2024, 15:31
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Are you planning on making the Windows Vista/7/8 - compatible version of the Firefox 128 - based Tor Browser? How much work would that require?

And is it even possible without affecting the fingerprint?


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TSNH wrote: *  07 Aug 2024, 15:31
Are you planning on making the Windows Vista/7/8 - compatible version of the Firefox 128 - based Tor Browser? How much work would that require?

And is it even possible without affecting the fingerprint?
Not to be too much of a securitytard but using Tor on outdated OS's seems pretty stupid to me, I avoid using stuff like that on windows at all and just use it on Linux.


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Duke
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wacker4315 wrote: *  08 Aug 2024, 05:18
Not to be too much of a securitytard but using Tor on outdated OS's seems pretty stupid to me, I avoid using stuff like that on windows at all and just use it on Linux.
In this case, it's not worse than using a Firefox fork on an outdated OS. Tor Browser is not a security software for the OS but just offers a protected internet browsing experience, hence it's enforcing the global security of the OS.
But yes, I guess most people on this forum will switch to Linux sooner or later.


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I mostly just focus on my own thing. However anyone could take my commits and build Tor Browser with them.

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They said in this blog post:
https://blog.torproject.org/new-alpha-release-tor-browser-140a1/
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This year, Firefox 128 ESR was released in July and the last ESR 115 update is September 3rd. At the end of this window, security exploits present in ESR 115 will not be fixed by Mozilla. This means we have a proverbial ticking clock counting down before the stable version of Tor Browser becomes out of date.

If we are unable to complete the required work before this window ends, then things get a little bit interesting. If it gets to this point, then we will continue releasing ESR 115-based Tor Browser and manually backport security-fixes from ESR 128. This is better than nothing, but as time goes on there is an increased risk that ESR 115-specific vulnerabilities will be discovered by our adversaries and go both undiscovered and unpatched by us.
Better than nothing :)


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wacker4315 wrote: *  08 Aug 2024, 05:18
TSNH wrote: *  07 Aug 2024, 15:31
Are you planning on making the Windows Vista/7/8 - compatible version of the Firefox 128 - based Tor Browser? How much work would that require?

And is it even possible without affecting the fingerprint?
Not to be too much of a securitytard but using Tor on outdated OS's seems pretty stupid to me, I avoid using stuff like that on windows at all and just use it on Linux.
I do the same and use Linux for that - but not all that often do I even use Tor unless I'm trying to watch something from another region. I never ever look at porn; never! I had to avoid all addictive behavior(s) beginning in 2017.

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TSNH wrote: *  07 Aug 2024, 15:31
Are you planning on making the Windows Vista/7/8 - compatible version of the Firefox 128 - based Tor Browser? How much work would that require?

And is it even possible without affecting the fingerprint?
You could always just run the Tor daemon and use that with normal r3dfox. As for fingerprinting, it seems easier and more effective to ensure a random fingerprint (eg: via canvas poisoning), than trying to ensure your fingerprint matches everyone else's.

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teknixstuff wrote: *  24 Nov 2025, 08:27
...As for fingerprinting, it seems easier and more effective to ensure a random fingerprint (eg: via canvas poisoning), than trying to ensure your fingerprint matches everyone else's...
Thank you for the advice! Please if I may ... when you say "canvas poisoning" do you mean to use Pale Moon Or Lun3r (I use Lun3r but its getting a little outdated now - I hope it will be updated one day) and use the pref? Is there an extension that will 'poison' the canvas for each session? From what I understand (sorry if I come across as ignorant) blocking canvas won't help much.

Thank you in advance :)

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xperceniol_sal wrote: *  24 Nov 2025, 20:46
when you say "canvas poisoning" do you mean to use Pale Moon Or Lun3r
Or just use this extension for Firefox or any of its forks including R3dfox:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/canvasblocker/

Github:
https://github.com/kkapsner/CanvasBlocker

Tip: to allow smilies to work on this forum with CanvasBlocker add eclipse.cx to the Window API list by clicking on "+" and then remove its checkmark.
It should be the same with any other phpBB forum.


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