r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8!

Taiclaw · Unread post by **Taiclaw** » 14 Nov 2025, 05:07

ESR is now in security madness too!

Unread post by **Duke** » 14 Nov 2025, 17:37

Taiclaw wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025, 04:43 A subpage containing the entered postal code and the corresponding store to choose to view the relevant brochure.
This subpage only works with a current browser!

I don't understand what you're talking about. Can you post a screenshot ?

Taiclaw wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025, 04:43 Because of less problems!!!

What kind of problems ?

Nobody · Unread post by **Nobody** » 16 Nov 2025, 15:47

Thank you for version 144.

TSNH · Unread post by **TSNH** » 18 Nov 2025, 19:05

What is this "Strict" setting actually?
I always set cookies to custom and "All cross-ste cookies"

Is strict the same?

xperceniol_sal · Unread post by **xperceniol_sal** » 18 Nov 2025, 19:12

TSNH wrote: ↑18 Nov 2025, 19:05 What is this "Strict" setting actually?
I always set cookies to custom and "All cross-ste cookies"

Is strict the same?

I also do the same ... I disable all cross-site cookies ... I've been wondering the same thing

Unread post by **Duke** » 18 Nov 2025, 21:05

TSNH wrote: ↑18 Nov 2025, 19:05 What is this "Strict" setting actually?

: ETP-Strict.png (8.44 KiB) Viewed 7168 times

xperceniol_sal · Unread post by **xperceniol_sal** » 19 Nov 2025, 00:02

Duke wrote: ↑18 Nov 2025, 21:05
TSNH wrote: ↑18 Nov 2025, 19:05 What is this "Strict" setting actually?
ETP-Strict.png

Hi Duke ... unfortunately I don't think your picture (alone) best answers our question - What is the difference between "strict" [which] (as your picture indicates) blocks cross-site cookies VS "custom" and setting to block all cross-site cookies ... what is the difference ... is "custom" 'strict-er'? Of course Mypal68 has those same settings. When you get the chance, would/could you better clarify for us. Thank you in advance.

Sal

PS: Sorry about the multiple edits ... just sometimes its hard for me to get across what I'm thinking.

Unread post by **Duke** » 19 Nov 2025, 09:17

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑19 Nov 2025, 00:02 What is the difference between "strict" [which] (as your picture indicates) blocks cross-site cookies VS "custom" and setting to block all cross-site cookies

I believe it's the same. Maybe the_r3dacted, ex K4sum1, can confirm that.

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑19 Nov 2025, 00:02 is "custom" 'strict-er'?

Custom allows you to "tweak" the settings while Strict doesn't. I've explained my choices in this post:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=7596#p7596

xperceniol_sal · Unread post by **xperceniol_sal** » 20 Nov 2025, 00:41

Duke wrote: ↑19 Nov 2025, 09:17...ex K4sum1, can confirm that...

"ex K4sum1"

... I guess I missed something and/or don't know what happened ... I just hope he is OK

YouTube · Unread post by **the_r3dacted** » 20 Nov 2025, 01:18

Just name change, afaik strict should be the same as custom with everything enabled.

Unread post by **Duke** » 09 Dec 2025, 20:54

Firefox 146 has been released with tons of security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2025-92/

Just saying

And there is also this:
https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/146.0/releasenotes/

Changed
Firefox removed support for Direct2D on Windows. If you still require Direct2D support, please use ESR 140.0 or higher.

Unread post by **Duke** » 10 Dec 2025, 15:10

R3dfox 145.0.2 has been released:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v145.0.2

Thanks!

Duke wrote: ↑09 Dec 2025, 20:54 And there is also this:
https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/146.0/releasenotes/
Changed
Firefox removed support for Direct2D on Windows. If you still require Direct2D support, please use ESR 140.0 or higher.

I've noticed that gfx.direct2d.disabled is already set to true in versions 144 and 145.
I don't see/feel any difference on Windows 8.1 but I'm not sure about Windows 7 and Vista.

YouTube · Unread post by **the_r3dacted** » 12 Dec 2025, 05:20

Something I've had in mind, but I just don't have the time to look into is that I'm 90% sure that the changes that broke DRM in r3dfox 144 should be reversible by the user.

Potentially relevant preferences:
media.eme.enabled
media.gmp-manager.url
media.gmp-manager.url.override
media.gmp-provider.enabled
media.gmp-gmpopenh264.enabled

Unread post by **Duke** » 12 Dec 2025, 17:59

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑12 Dec 2025, 05:20 the changes that broke DRM in r3dfox 144 should be reversible by the user.

Potentially relevant preferences:
media.eme.enabled

I've tried with R3dfox 146.0:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v146.0

I've enabled media.eme.enabled only and magic! Widevine has automatically downloaded and installed and it's working fine

Thanks!

However, I've noticed a problem on this page:
https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-s25/

The FAQ part doesn't properly display and some buttons have no text:

: R3dfox-S25.png (46.51 KiB) Viewed 1086 times

I can click on the links and highlight the text but nothing is shown on the screen.
ETP is OFF, uBlock is OFF, CanvasBlocker is OFF, NoScript allows everything.

And if every script is blocked with NoScript I can see the text:

: R3dfox-S25-NoScriptON.png (84.67 KiB) Viewed 1086 times

Same thing with Firefox 115.31 ESR.

YouTube · Unread post by **the_r3dacted** » 12 Dec 2025, 20:58

If it happens in both r3dfox and Firefox 115 ESR, it's probably this.

https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/issues/79

It probably uses scripts to load some weird fancy font.

Unread post by **Duke** » 12 Dec 2025, 23:52

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑12 Dec 2025, 20:58 If it happens in both r3dfox and Firefox 115 ESR, it's probably this.
https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/issues/79

It probably uses scripts to load some weird fancy font.

Does it happen to you too ?
When I refresh the page I can see the text for a very short while then it vanishes:

: R3dfox-S25-Refresh.png (25.36 KiB) Viewed 912 times

After:

: R3dfox-S25-RefreshAfter.png (12.06 KiB) Viewed 904 times

The page is working fine on my phone so yes, it may be some variable font which requires Windows 10 1709.

YouTube · Unread post by **the_r3dacted** » 13 Dec 2025, 12:41

Yes, what I said was right, they use their own "SamsungOne" font that doesn't display on 7.

Unread post by **Duke** » 13 Dec 2025, 17:46

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 12:41 they use their own "SamsungOne" font that doesn't display on 7.

I'm on Windows 8.1 and the dev tools reports SamsungOne 400 and 700 but in https://fontdrop.info I can use it and see it in the Type yourself tab:

: SamsungOne-FontDrop.png (35.74 KiB) Viewed 698 times

So I'm puzzled

The-10-Pen · Unread post by **The-10-Pen** » 13 Dec 2025, 20:36

Just reading through the discussion, it was not stated that the font itself is the problem, but rather that a javascript loading the font is the issue.
Which would also explain why NoScript would render the site properly.

Focus needs to be on the javascript side of things, not the font side of things.

The-10-Pen · Unread post by **The-10-Pen** » 13 Dec 2025, 21:00

Of course, css things that "flex" things into position could also be a probably cause.
I would need to install r3dfox into a VM to go any further.
Tomorrow perhaps, if nothing is found beforehand.

Unread post by **Duke** » 13 Dec 2025, 21:40

Duke wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 17:46 the dev tools reports SamsungOne 400 and 700 but in https://fontdrop.info I can use it and see it in the Type Yourself tab

It works with the TTF fonts but it doesn't work with the SamsungOne-*00.woff2 web fonts loaded by the page.
So I guess they are variable fonts that don't work on older Windows versions before W10 1709. But on https://v-fonts.com I get something like this ☒ while on https://fontdrop.info no character is shown at all.

The-10-Pen · Unread post by **The-10-Pen** » 13 Dec 2025, 23:11

Duke wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 21:40 So I guess they are variable fonts that don't work on older Windows versions before W10 1709.

I run Win10 1607 with ZERO updates.
The variable fonts WORK for me (albeit in Chrome v140).
To each their own, of course, I no longer use non-Chrome but WILL try in a VM within the next day or so.
It appears this has nothing to do with what Windows version is being ran, but rather Chrome versus non-Chrome.
I could be wrong, it wouldn't be my first time, lol.

Unread post by **Duke** » 14 Dec 2025, 11:05

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 23:11 It appears this has nothing to do with what Windows version is being ran

It does, I'm now sure it's about the OS.
I've tried Chromium on my Windows 8.1 with the same result: invisible text, blank buttons.
Then I've copied my portable R3dfox I'm actually using on Windows 8.1 to my Windows 10 computer and bingo! The page is working fine.

Workaround for Windows 7 & 8: in the Settings → General → Fonts → Advanced untick Allow pages to choose their own fonts.
It may look ugly in some cases so I suggest to do it on the fly, only when needed.

BTW, versions 140.6.0esr and 128.14.1-2esr of R3dfox have been released:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v140.6.0esr
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v128.14.1-2esr

NOTE: There are a bunch of changes made to this build which may break compatibility with websites and may change default settings. Please let me know if 128.14.1/140.5.0esr+ or 144+ breaks any websites for you.

GoodConscience · Unread post by **GoodConscience** » 14 Dec 2025, 15:42

Duke wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025, 11:05
Workaround for Windows 7 & 8: in the Settings → General → Fonts → Advanced untick Allow pages to choose their own fonts.
It may look ugly in some cases so I suggest to do it on the fly, only when needed.

As you wrote, this is a global font setting, affecting ALL web pages loaded in r3dfox; what I did on my Vista SP2 OS + r3dfox is:

Since uBlock Origin is already installed here, I configured the extension to selectively block remote fonts ONLY on www.samsung.com; this way, the webpage uses local fonts, already compatible with the OS:

If you click the padlock button in the uBO UI, it'll make this a permanent change just for this website

; hope I've helped

...

Unread post by **Duke** » 14 Dec 2025, 17:15

GoodConscience wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025, 15:42 Since uBlock Origin is already installed here, I configured the extension to selectively block remote fonts ONLY on www.samsung.com; this way, the webpage uses local fonts, already compatible with the OS:

If you click the padlock button in the uBO UI, it'll make this a permanent change just for this website ; hope I've helped ...

Very good point, your workaround is much better than mine

Sometimes I forget about the powerful features of uBlock Origin.

However, I don't understand why you got a black background at the top of the page while mine is white, even though I'm using the black theme and the black mode

But that's not very important.

The-10-Pen · Unread post by **The-10-Pen** » 14 Dec 2025, 19:49

Duke wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025, 17:15 However, I don't understand why...

Note from his screen cap that he has 3 userstyles active.
So it could be his userstyles.

GoodConscience · Unread post by **GoodConscience** » 14 Dec 2025, 21:52

Duke wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025, 17:15
However, I don't understand why you got a black background at the top of the page while mine is white, even though I'm using the black theme and the black mode

It's because I have Dark Reader installed and configured to be enabled by default on ALL websites - I then disable it selectively on sites that offer a dark theme themselves

; e.g., here on board.eclipse.cx I've selected the Lucid Blue (dark) "style", hence DR doesn't need to run...

Unread post by **Duke** » 14 Dec 2025, 23:13

GoodConscience wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025, 21:52 It's because I have Dark Reader installed

That explains it, that's somehow an user style like The-10-Pen said.
Thanks for the info.

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