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    Duke
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    Duke wrote: *  08 Apr 2026, 10:13
    I've noticed that some settings have been changed after updating from v149 beta to v149.0.2 like the warning before opening about:config, network.captive-portal-service.enabled or Safe Browsing.
    Very annoying.
    On top of that I've just noticed that R3dfox keeps on connecting to detectportal.firefox.com every time I open a new window (Ctrl+N) even though network.captive-portal-service.enabled is set to false.
    This never ever happened with previous versions, not even with v149 beta :evil:

    Correction:
    It was there in v149 beta but not in v148.0.2 and previous versions.
    I always backup before updating and I've just checked all of these versions.

    Update:
    Even worse, I have removed the http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html URL from captivedetect.canonicalURL setting and it still connects to detectportal.firefox.com !
    WTH is going on ?

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    Duke wrote: *  07 Apr 2026, 00:20
    R3dfox v149.0.2 has been released:
    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v149.0.2
    Thanks! Waiting for an ESR release. Will there be updated ESR releases?
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    eclstedt wrote: *  08 Apr 2026, 18:41
    Waiting for an ESR release. Will there be updated ESR releases?
    the_r3dacted said: "Maybe". There:
    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/150#issuecomment-4203476476
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    I don't know what I'm going to do. Maybe I'll work on 140.9 ESR which will mirror a lot of changes from 149.0.2 since I'm rebuilding it.
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    Duke wrote: *  08 Apr 2026, 13:32
    Duke wrote: *  08 Apr 2026, 10:13
    I've noticed that some settings have been changed after updating from v149 beta to v149.0.2 like the warning before opening about:config, network.captive-portal-service.enabled or Safe Browsing.
    Very annoying.
    On top of that I've just noticed that R3dfox keeps on connecting to detectportal.firefox.com every time I open a new window (Ctrl+N) even though network.captive-portal-service.enabled is set to false.
    This never ever happened with previous versions, not even with v149 beta :evil:

    Correction:
    It was there in v149 beta but not in v148.0.2 and previous versions.
    I always backup before updating and I've just checked all of these versions.

    Update:
    Even worse, I have removed the http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html URL from captivedetect.canonicalURL setting and it still connects to detectportal.firefox.com !
    WTH is going on ?
    I had to set network.connectivity-service.enabled to false.
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    Duke wrote: *  09 Apr 2026, 19:40
    I had to set network.connectivity-service.enabled to false.
    https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/networking/connectivity_checking.html
    Quote:
    The NetworkConnectivityService will periodically connect to the same URL we use for captive portal detection, but will restrict its preferences to either IPv4 or IPv6.
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    Hello
    Here is information about an error that has not occurred before.
    On Windows 7, 32-bit, I tried to update from version 147.0.1 to 149.0.2. It didn't work. I got the error message:
    "r3dfox has stopped working. A problem prevented this program from running correctly. Close the program."
    The cause of the error was the following setting in user.js: "dom.enable_resource_timing", false.
    After removing this entry, the update was successful.
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    Duke wrote: *  08 Apr 2026, 19:15
    eclstedt wrote: *  08 Apr 2026, 18:41
    Waiting for an ESR release. Will there be updated ESR releases?
    the_r3dacted said: "Maybe". There:
    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/150#issuecomment-4203476476
    Quote:
    I don't know what I'm going to do. Maybe I'll work on 140.9 ESR which will mirror a lot of changes from 149.0.2 since I'm rebuilding it.
    Well, it looks like there won't be a v140.9 ESR but a v140.10 ESR:
    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/150#issuecomment-4252984990
    the-r3dacted wrote:
    I think I'm just going to skip 140.9. Running into issues with the patches. Will just wait for 140.10 patches.
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    Duke
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    R3dfox 150.0BETA10:
    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v150.0b10

    Bear in mind it's a BETA version. So backup at least your profile, or more, before you update to v150 beta. ;)
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    Duke said:
    | 2. about:profiles should work, pay attention to the destination folder path.
    | -Profile "profile name" can work too.

    the_r3dacted said:
    | Since you're using the portable version, it basically just passes
    | -profile Profile to the exe and therefore makes a "Profile" folder
    | in the portable browser directory with your profile.
    | If about:profiles is broken here, it's because it's being overridden here.
    | If you go into (r3dfox folder)\browser, you'll find a pmundprt.mod file,
    | and this controls that behavior.
    | Deleting it will revert it to stock operation with a profile in Appdata.

    1) Is it possible set the profiles folder r3dfox folder ?
    I am using the portable version, and would like to have all of r3dfox in
    one folder.
    2) Is it possible to set a profile folder in the r3dfox folder as default ?
    I want to be able to start r3dfox without using a command line, with the
    profiles in the r3dfox folder.
    I am not asking for a bespoke build of r3dfox; I want to know whether I can
    configure r3dfox this way.
    Thanks
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    jassenna wrote: *  18 Apr 2026, 18:41
    1) Is it possible set the profiles folder r3dfox folder ?
    I am using the portable version, and would like to have all of r3dfox in
    one folder.
    2) Is it possible to set a profile folder in the r3dfox folder as default ?
    I want to be able to start r3dfox without using a command line, with the
    profiles in the r3dfox folder.
    I am not asking for a bespoke build of r3dfox; I want to know whether I can
    configure r3dfox this way.
    Thanks
    I'm pretty sure the portable mode already works like that.

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    the_r3dacted said:
    | I 'm pretty sure the portable mode already works like that

    Not exactly
    - It expects profiles to be in %DEFAULTUSER%/AppData and creates profiles in a folder there (as does the installed
    version).
    -If started by double clicking on r3dfox.exe or on its icon in desktop, it does not find a profile and exits.
    about:profiles does not find any profile in the r3dfox files folder, so it cannot make default a profile
    residing in that folder.
    - So, to use a profile in the r3dfox folder, r3dfox must be started form command line, with the -profiles
    argument. This means opening a commnd window, starting r3dfox, then exiting the command window.
    - I want to be able to start r3dfox from a desktop icon or from the program name in its folder, as any
    Windows program.
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    jassenna wrote: *  20 Apr 2026, 23:17
    the_r3dacted said:
    | I 'm pretty sure the portable mode already works like that

    Not exactly
    - It expects profiles to be in %DEFAULTUSER%/AppData and creates profiles in a folder there (as does the installed
    version).
    -If started by double clicking on r3dfox.exe or on its icon in desktop, it does not find a profile and exits.
    about:profiles does not find any profile in the r3dfox files folder, so it cannot make default a profile
    residing in that folder.
    - So, to use a profile in the r3dfox folder, r3dfox must be started form command line, with the -profiles
    argument. This means opening a commnd window, starting r3dfox, then exiting the command window.
    - I want to be able to start r3dfox from a desktop icon or from the program name in its folder, as any
    Windows program.
    May I ask what version of "portable" r3dfox you're talking about? And, more importantly, where exactly have you unpacked the downloaded "portable" archive of r3dfox? Be aware that if you placed it inside %ProgramFiles%, it WON'T run in portable mode! Please read in its entirety a now archived issue from the old GitHub issue tracker:

    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox-old/issues/340

    FWIW, I wrote this comment on a "portable" install of r3dfox, where its profile directory (simply called "Profile") is indeed located adjacent to "r3dfox.exe" - but all this is "installed" on an external USB drive:

    "G:\PortableApps\r3dfoxPortable\App\"

    where the "App" dir contains both the "r3dfox.exe" main executable and the "Profile" dir...
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    I downloaded this file from SourceForge:
    r3dfox-149.0.2.en-US.win32.portable.7z ,
    created a R3DFOX folder in %ProgramFiles%
    and extracted the files to it.
    I ran r3dfox for the first time with the
    -profile "User" argument and it created
    an "User" folder in the R3DFOX folder.
    When I tried to make that profile default
    using about:profiles, it did not find
    any profile, nor does r3dfox when I try
    to run it by clicking. However, if I run
    it with profile "User" argument (note
    the missing - sign), it lists the contents
    of the User folder.
    If I understood the Github issue above,
    it recommends keeping the r3dfox portable
    version in temovanle media, but I use
    removable media just for backups and
    do not keep them attached to the
    computer most of times.
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    Why do you insist on extracting to ProgramFiles ??? ??? ???
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    With R3dfox 150.0b10 DNS over HTTPS settings for various options can't be opened when you click on the down arrow so you can't change the settings:

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    jassenna wrote: *  23 Apr 2026, 00:57
    I downloaded this file from SourceForge: r3dfox-149.0.2.en-US.win32.portable.7z,
    created a R3DFOX folder in %ProgramFiles% and extracted the files to it.
    ... Which, as I had correctly suspected, is where your fault lies; DO NOT EXTRACT THE CONTENTS OF THE "r3dfox-149.0.2.en-US.win32.portable.7z" ARCHIVE INSIDE %ProgramFiles% (or, probably, any other system-protected directory), else it won't auto-run in "portable" mode; this is what I already told you!

    If you're not going to use r3dfox portable across different machines, the recommendation to extract to a "removable" medium (e.g USB external HDD) is not a requirement; just create the R3DFOX directory on a disk location you have write privileges for (e.g. "C:\R3DFOX") and extract the portable archive there; when you first launch r3dfox.exe without any special arguments, it will run in portable mode and will create its default profile inside a "Profile" directory adjacent to r3dfox.exe; nothing more is required on your part! You can create a desktop shortcut for r3dfox.exe and launch the browser that way, if you so wish...
    NB1: "about:profiles" doesn't work in portable mode!
    NB2: Portable r3dfox is NOT meant to have any file or protocol association with the rest of the host OS (e.g. be set as the OS's "default browser"); if you want that, use the "normal/standard" installer!

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    AGREED !!!

    I didn't have the PATIENCE to reply to that level of.. um.. let's just call it "insistence". Glad somebody else did!
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    GoodConscience wrote: *  23 Apr 2026, 21:47
    NB2: Portable r3dfox is NOT meant to have any file or protocol association with the rest of the host OS (e.g. be set as the OS's "default browser"); if you want that, use the "normal/standard" installer!
    Actually this is incorrect. pmundprt mode (the way portable mode ships) works completely fine as the default browser. Only pmprt mode breaks if used as default browser.

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    the_r3dacted wrote: *  24 Apr 2026, 02:50
    Actually this is incorrect. pmundprt mode (the way portable mode ships) works completely fine as the default browser. Only pmprt mode breaks if used as default browser.
    Thanks for this clarification, which I realised I had forgotten about after you pointed it out :oops: ; indeed, it was mentioned in the old repo:

    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox-old/releases/tag/v128.12.0rc-hotfix
    Quote:
    Added the rest of the portable mode code (pmprt.mod now makes the browser run in no-remote mode as it should and completely disables set as default functionality) (Normal portable mode (pmundprt.mod) works the same as before)
    However, I have grown over many years the habit of treating "portable" apps in the original sense of the term, i.e. in being transferable across different devices; thus, I religiously avoid to associate in any manner any instance of a said "portable" app with a given host OS; and since pmprt.mod became available, I manually rename the default ".\browser\pmundprt.mod" file to ".\browser\pmundprt.mod.BAK" and create a ".\browser\pmprt.mod" (empty) file in its place; only then do I launch r3dfox.exe ;) ...
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    GoodConscience wrote: *  24 Apr 2026, 23:06
    However, I have grown over many years the habit of treating "portable" apps in the original sense of the term, i.e. in being transferable across different devices; thus, I religiously avoid to associate in any manner any instance of a said "portable" app with a given host OS;
    Agreed! Same here!
    In fact, my OS has no "default browser" of any kind!
    It's become my default config for a good twenty years or so, maybe even thirty.
    Got too ticked off with how "installers" would launch a 'default web browser' and advertise other products or whatnot.
    So now I configure all of my OS's to *NOT* have *ANY* 'default web brower'.
    Installers *CAN'T* open any web page because there is **NO** web browser configured to "handle" that UNSOLICITED request.
    Email links *CAN'T* open any web page, links embedded in .pdf's or .ppt's or you-name-it *CAN'T* open any web page.
    Works great for me! Though I suppose 'not for all'.
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    Duke wrote: *  23 Apr 2026, 06:04
    With R3dfox 150.0b10 DNS over HTTPS settings for various options can't be opened when you click on the down arrow so you can't change the settings
    Another annoyance with R3dfox 150.0b10: the calculation of the browsing data seems to be stuck:

    R3dfox 150.0b10:

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    Duke wrote: *  26 Apr 2026, 16:18
    Duke wrote: *  23 Apr 2026, 06:04
    With R3dfox 150.0b10 DNS over HTTPS settings for various options can't be opened when you click on the down arrow so you can't change the settings
    Another annoyance with R3dfox 150.0b10: the calculation of the browsing data seems to be stuck
    Calculation maybe stuck because the cookies setting of the custom Enhanced Tracking Protection is also broken. It's blank, showing no setting, and if you click on the down arrow and select an option in the list then the Cookies box becomes disabled and if you tick it back again then network.cookie.cookieBehavior is set to 0.

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    Is there any chance for a R3dfox update to v150.0.1 soon ? Because there is a critical security fix in Firefox v150.0.1, among high ones:
    https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2026-35/

    It seems to be so critical that they have even updated the ESR versions, which is not usual.
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    R3dfox v150.0.1 has been released:
    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v150.0.1

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    Since DNS over HTTPS obviously use HTTPS therefore it should use the TCP protocol.

    But in about:networking with R3dfox v150.0.1 I'm seeing UDP being used:

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    While I'm seeing this with R3dfox v148.0.2, TCP being used:

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    Notice that Quad9 (9.9.9.9) is also the system default DNS server of my computer. So I have the feeling that for some reason R3dfox v150.0.1 is not using the DoH server but is falling back to the system default DNS server, even though it's set to Max Protection (network.trr.mode=3) and shouldn't do that.
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    Duke, I don't have that issue at all on 150 64 or 32 bit. I also entered in a custom DNS over HTTPS not one of the built in ones. Maybe that will help you
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    There is also a problem with the HTTP Version field.

    With R3dfox v150b10 and v150.0.1 it's empty:

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    It's working fine with R3dfox v148.0.2 and v149.0.2:

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    After more investigations it appears that all of these network problems started with R3dfox v150b10. Previous versions 148.0.2 and 149.0.2 are working fine.
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    		+ Posted: 06 May 2026, 11:33
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    When you find an issue with a new version of r3dfox, also test this to see if it occurs there too pls.
    https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/

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    Post subject: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8!
    		+ Posted: 06 May 2026, 14:36
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    the_r3dacted wrote: *  06 May 2026, 11:33
    When you find an issue with a new version of r3dfox, also test this to see if it occurs there too pls.
    https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/
    About the HTTP version field: yes, it's the same with FfW7 v150:

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    About the DoH DNS server: no, FfW7 v150 uses TCP:

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    This DoH thing reminds people complaining about R3dfox v149 crashing in some cases, IIRC when TRR mode=2.
    So maybe something happened in this version because I've also noticed my R3dfox v149.0.2 using both TCP and UDP with the DoH server:

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    With R3dfox v149.0.2 some sites are also using UDP connections for some reason:

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    So it seems that e3kskoy7wqk is fiddling with the network settings, which brings this question: Why ? Why is he doing that ?
    You don't do things without a reason so what is the reason which justifies touching / modifying the network settings ?
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    Post subject: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8!
    		+ Posted: 06 May 2026, 14:38
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    R3dfox v140.10.1 ESR has been released:
    https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v140.10.0esr
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