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Firefox 115.32.1 ESR has been released:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.32.1esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.32.1/releasenotes/

With an important security fix, so update ASAP ;)

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Looks like the next version 115.33 ESR will be the last official version to be compatible with Windows 7 & 8:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1563383

Which is confirmed by the release calendar:
https://whattrainisitnow.com/calendar/

and the ESR releases calendar:
https://whattrainisitnow.com/release/?version=esr

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Firefox 115.33 ESR is available:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.33.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.33.0/releasenotes/

This is the very last official version of Firefox to be compatible with Windows 7 & 8. :(

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Mozilla has decided to extend Windows 7 & 8 support for Firefox 115 ESR until the end of August 2026:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-users-windows-7-8-and-81-moving-extended-support

https://whattrainisitnow.com/release/?version=esr
We have decided to extend support to ESR 115 only on Windows 7-8.1 and macOS 10.12-10.14 up to August 2026.
We will re-evaluate this decision in July 2026 and announce any updates on ESR 115's end-of-life then.

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Me personally, I view this as BAD NEWS, just kicking the can down the road.

Extending 115 ESR is like driving a car with "rust" (pun intended) on each and every piece of metal, putting a sticker over the dashboard "check engine light" so that you don't have to look at it, three different types of tires because the owner buys USED tires one at a time to "extend the life" of their 'winter beater', two of the four tires bald and bulging, spider-web cracks in the windshield because the driver gets Road Rage and punched it for no other reason than somebody passed them on the right instead of left on a 4-lane highway, driving without a muffler because you play the radio so loud that you don't hear the muffler anyway, and a den of possums living in the foam of the back seat.

Just get it over with already and "take your losses".

Take care to sell your horse before he dies. The art of life is passing losses on. — Robert Frost

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Well, I think that's better than nothing for people who are not tech-savvy, or people who can't afford a new computer, or (old) people who are scared to change, etc.
Not to mention people who have problem to trust what is not 'official' from Mozilla.

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I used to think that! But then I started to actually get to know a ton of the demographic (ie, "old people", "not tech-savvy", "can't afford a new computer") to which you refer. NONE OF THEM USE FIREFOX !!! They use "hand-me up" computers that their family and friends give them after upgrading their own computers. Even DONATIONS from local churches because you can't SELL them, you have to GIVE THEM AWAY (because we really do hang onto them FOREVER and they're not worth a dime once we finally admit it's time to get rid of). Or they're simply not as "poor" as their humility has others thinking them to be.

The harsh REALITY is that it is only people like us on this forum, and forums similar to it, that are DELUSIONED into the whole paradigm of "Long Live XP" or "Long Live 7". Claiming anything to the contrary is just "backwards logic" attempting to justify the extension of something with one foot in the grave. I would submit that it is ONLY the "tech-savvy" that DOES use Firefox! Whether it be primary, or secondary, or just as a hobby. Plus, us tech-savvy folks wouldn't have to denigrate Microsoft as much/often as we do if they didn't do such a GREAT JOB at making GRANDMA and GRANDPA 'able' to use any version of Windows if they've so much as used any previous version of Windows. Microsoft really does have that marketing aspect CORNERED. They can not (and never will) be able to DO as much as us tech-savvy folks. But any GRANDMA or GRANDPA that has sat in front of Win98 *CAN STUMBLE THEIR WAY INTO THE "START MENU" OF WIN11* and find their browser or email or SOLITAIRE and h#ll, they'll even find and LEARN a stupid little thing called CANDY CRUSH. That and, um, duh!, if you are are so much as even reading this, you ARE "tech-savvy" and it is that aspect of your character that not only makes you a Firefox/fork user, but ALSO is what makes you a MEMBER of this web site. Grandma's and Grandpa's don't exactly have ANY shred of interest in forums like this. :mrgreen:

Mozilla "extending" support for ESR 115 makes them nothing more than what a prison ward would refer to as an ENABLER.

It is one thing to "long live" a HOBBY, but call it what it is, a hobby, extending ESR 115 does the NON-HOBBY person ZERO 'good'.
Even Mozilla knows that. But they are being smacked around like a cat playing with a half-dead mouse by MOB MENTALITY of the "Long Live 7" gang(sters).

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Duke wrote: 11 Mar 2026, 20:10 Mozilla has decided to extend Windows 7 & 8 support for Firefox 115 ESR until the end of August 2026:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-users-windows-7-8-and-81-moving-extended-support

https://whattrainisitnow.com/release/?version=esr
We have decided to extend support to ESR 115 only on Windows 7-8.1 and macOS 10.12-10.14 up to August 2026.
We will re-evaluate this decision in July 2026 and announce any updates on ESR 115's end-of-life then.
The day Firefox ends support will be the day the DFS sale ends

In other words, the day you need to buy a new sofa

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Firefox 115.35.1 ESR hotfix for security fixes including a critical one:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.35.1esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.35.1/releasenotes/

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I see "news" like that and I think two things, "mob mentality rules" and "just die already".
But I'm probably in the "minority" at places like this. But hey, "minority" and "mob mentality" goes hand-in-hand, so I'll be okay.

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I believe Mozilla just wants not to lose yet this part of their users, even though it's a minority.

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That's not my take on it.
6.7% of Firefox userbase is Win7 alone! Forget 8/8.1.

When *only!* 2.26% of the ENTIRE *GLOBAL* browser market is running Firefox, you can either look at it as "we cannot afford to lose anyone"...

OR, you can look at it as "We are letting the PAST hold us back, we will NEVER survive the FUTURE if we keep the PAST as our BOAT ANCHOR"...

My view is the latter of the two.

So yeah, I get it, I'm one of the only folks around here not running Win7, but *DIE ALREADY* has my vote.
To each their own, of course.

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"Hilarity Ensues" - https://www.fastslang.com/hilarity-ensues

I personally find this *VERY* funny!

<excerpt>
Look closely at those two numbers, because they run backwards. For almost every other browser, filtering out bots makes the browser look bigger, since automated traffic overwhelmingly identifies as Chrome. Safari climbs from 15.8% to 17.9% when you drop the bots. Firefox goes the other way: it falls from 4.20% to 3.68%.
</excerpt>

Source: THREE DAYS AGO - https://technologychecker.io/blog/firefox-market-share

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Though I will say that it is important to add this, from that same article.

<excerpt>
This deserves saying plainly, because it contradicts the story most people carry around: in 2026, Firefox is not dying. The dramatic collapse everyone remembers happened years ago. What Radar shows over the last twelve months is a browser that has stopped falling and found a floor.
</excerpt>

So sure, I will stop saying "die already", I'll start advocating instead to PICK YOURSELF UP OFF THE FLOOR.
And, in order to do that, "they" (not "us" here, per se) MUST get rid of the BOAT ANCHOR.

That means for US (ie, Firefox FORKS) is that we must change the way we compile forks!
ie, if "we" simply can NOT compile (for Win7, for example) *AFTER* upstream abandons Win7, then that is OUR FAULT, not theirs.
THEY need to PICK THEMSELVES UP OFF THE FLOOR. THEY need to cut loose the BOAT ANCHOR.

No appliance company can survive into the future if their appliance is stuck in the 60s.
No automotive company can survive into the future if their automobile is stuck in the 80s.
No furnace or water heater or air conditioner can survive into the future if they are stuck in the 90s.
Et cetera...

Firefox must cut loose the noose around their necks. Or DIE as a result of an inability to untie that knot.
Sorry, that's just "reality".

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The-10-Pen wrote: 17 Jul 2026, 10:23 That means for US (ie, Firefox FORKS) is that we must change the way we compile forks!
THEY need to PICK THEMSELVES UP OFF THE FLOOR.
Firefox is moving forward with recent versions of the browser which R3dfox is based on.
As I said, Mozilla just don't want to lose the Windows 7/8 users but they don't want, or can't, make recent versions of Firefox to be compatible with Windows 7 & 8.

Fortunately for us, R3dfox is doing it with no loss of features AFAIK. There are also forks of Chrome for Windows 7 & 8.

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Newer versions of Firefox & Thunderbird work with the use of VxKex (also, VxKex-Next). Why can't they do it if I can?

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