It's not that "simplistic".
I can do video streaming "overload" with Chrome/Chromium that buckles **EVERYTHING** Mozilla-based to the ground !!!
I used to be a "proud" user of Firefox, during the "Death to IE" era in internetting history.
For what I use my browsers for, Mozilla-based really is just TERRIBLE, absolutely TERRIBLE.
I continue to root for their success, I REALLY DO !!!
Their market share is atrocious. Once all of "Commodore / Atari / Amiga" generation die out, so will Firefox if they don't do something SERIOUS about trying to catch up with Chrome.
This isn't the 90s anymore, no government agency, be it US or EU, is going to break up Google like they did IE.
If we want Firefox to succeed, they need to ditch the boat anchor operating systems that "nobody uses" but us Old Farts.
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Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR
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Something you may have not understood: there is NO development on Firefox 115 ESR anymore, it's only getting security patches.The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Jul 2026, 20:44 If we want Firefox to succeed, they need to ditch the boat anchor operating systems that "nobody uses" but us Old Farts.
The development and improvements are done only on the latest version of Firefox, v152 as of today, v153 on the 21st of July.
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Mypal is slow and I guess I don't care either. I do sometimes use Lun3r and Hydra but they are quite outdated now and I think I might be one of few actually even that know about those. I understand K4sum1 is busy with other projects but I also don't mind if a page is displayed in 3 or 4 seconds - gives me time to think. Streaming can sometimes be spotty so I turn to Linux and use FF or Chrome if I need to.
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Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR
I disagree !!!
Developing/testing/implementing the 115ESR and the 140ESR patches takes time away from allocating resources to "catching up with Chrome".
We are from the same "generation", whether you see it or not, FIrefox will cease to exist when our generation fades into the sunset.
It really is TERRIBLE at implementing anything remotely "modern".
It's not about loading a web page a second or two faster, that's just burying one's head in the sand.
At any given moment at work, I may have to have a dozen web-based tools spanning multiple screens.
It's not about reading an Eclipse board on one browser versus another.
I was once a very proud "Nothing but Fox" type of internet user.
My own "backwards logic" tied me to Firefox WAY TOO LONG.
It's like driving four-cylinder cars for 30yrs and never knowing V8s even existed.
Firefox DYING is *NOT* good "for the internet".
But a tiny 4% market share ain't doing that internet any d@mn bit of good either!
Just a bunch of Old Farts that might as well take the codebase to their graves because the next generation wants NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Sad... But true...