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Author:  Plece [ 13 Jun 2021, 23:29 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2020-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
I can only use the 2016 ISO because every time I attempt to use the 2020-01 ISO I get a "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" BSoD every ~15 minutes once installed.
Does anyone know what update could be causing this so I can avoid it and get fully updated?
Thanks.

Specs:
- Intel Core i9-10850K (OC'ed to 5.2GHz, though I've tried disabling the OC, that doesn't fix it.)
- ASUS Prime Z490-A
- 16GB 3200MHz G.Skill RAM (if that matters)
- NVidia GTX 1070 FE (Probably doesn't matter)
Author:  K4sum1² [ 13 Jun 2021, 23:45 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
I'd suspect maybe a Spectre/Meltdown update, try updating to the 2017-12 point.
Author:  MelonicOverlord [ 14 Jun 2021, 06:57 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
1. That gpu is bottlenecking the i9

2. In all seriousness, Windows 7 might just not support hardware that is that powerful, although I've never really tested myself. Not the biggest Windows expert.
Author:  Plece [ 14 Jun 2021, 07:00 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
MelonicOverlord wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 06:57
1. That gpu is bottlenecking the i9

2. In all seriousness, Windows 7 might just not support hardware that is that powerful, although I've never really tested myself. Not the biggest Windows expert.
1. I know it is lol, I couldn't find a better GPU for a price that wasn't outrageous.

2. If that's true, why would the 2016-09 iso work?
Author:  K4sum1 [ 14 Jun 2021, 08:43 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
Why is it like the helpful posts get skipped? It literally only takes a few minutes to read the ISO thread, and grab the 2017 updates for the 2016 ISO.

If you wanna know what the fucking update is, go and do it.
Author:  LuckyCryWinScenic [ 14 Jun 2021, 11:37 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
MelonicOverlord wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 06:57
1. That gpu is bottlenecking the i9

2. In all seriousness, Windows 7 might just not support hardware that is that powerful, although I've never really tested myself. Not the biggest Windows expert.
Actually, i9 CPUs can handle Win7 just fine. Since i9 CPUs are started from the older predecessor, Skylake-X (which supports Win7 and 8.1 but only small users of it due to CPU brand number confusions), it's the chipsets that maybe the problem since Z390 and newer chipsets doesnt support the official USB 3.0 from Intel and needs an modded one.

Windows 7 can handle powerful hardware, it's also the chipsets as i stated earlier is the problem.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/windows-7-supported-intel-processors
Author:  K4sum1 [ 14 Jun 2021, 11:55 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
LuckyCryWinScenic wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 11:37
MelonicOverlord wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 06:57
1. That gpu is bottlenecking the i9

2. In all seriousness, Windows 7 might just not support hardware that is that powerful, although I've never really tested myself. Not the biggest Windows expert.
Actually, i9 CPUs can handle Win7 just fine. Since i9 CPUs are started from the older predecessor, Skylake-X (which supports Win7 and 8.1 but only small users of it due to CPU brand number confusions), it's the chipsets that maybe the problem since Z390 and newer chipsets doesnt support the official USB 3.0 from Intel and needs an modded one.

Windows 7 can handle powerful hardware, it's also the chipsets as i stated earlier is the problem.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/windows-7-supported-intel-processors
If it was the USB 3, the 2016 ISO would not work either.
Author:  LuckyCryWinScenic [ 14 Jun 2021, 12:18 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
R3n wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 11:55
LuckyCryWinScenic wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 11:37
MelonicOverlord wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 06:57
1. That gpu is bottlenecking the i9

2. In all seriousness, Windows 7 might just not support hardware that is that powerful, although I've never really tested myself. Not the biggest Windows expert.
Actually, i9 CPUs can handle Win7 just fine. Since i9 CPUs are started from the older predecessor, Skylake-X (which supports Win7 and 8.1 but only small users of it due to CPU brand number confusions), it's the chipsets that maybe the problem since Z390 and newer chipsets doesnt support the official USB 3.0 from Intel and needs an modded one.

Windows 7 can handle powerful hardware, it's also the chipsets as i stated earlier is the problem.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/windows-7-supported-intel-processors
If it was the USB 3, the 2016 ISO would not work either.
I dont blame the USB as the problem neither, could suspect the issue related to the updates, maybe they might be incompatible with 10th gen Intel.
Author:  K4sum1 [ 14 Jun 2021, 12:26 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
LuckyCryWinScenic wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 12:18
R3n wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 11:55
LuckyCryWinScenic wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 11:37


Actually, i9 CPUs can handle Win7 just fine. Since i9 CPUs are started from the older predecessor, Skylake-X (which supports Win7 and 8.1 but only small users of it due to CPU brand number confusions), it's the chipsets that maybe the problem since Z390 and newer chipsets doesnt support the official USB 3.0 from Intel and needs an modded one.

Windows 7 can handle powerful hardware, it's also the chipsets as i stated earlier is the problem.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/windows-7-supported-intel-processors
If it was the USB 3, the 2016 ISO would not work either.
I dont blame the USB as the problem neither, could suspect the issue related to the updates, maybe they might be incompatible with 10th gen Intel.
Yes, I'm just waiting for Plece to test the 2017 update point. USB uses the generic 8.x+ drivers, so USB isn't really an issue.

Fun fact: The 2016-09 ISO was actually created from a creation mishap, the 2017 updates weren't integrated in the original "2017-08 release" back in early 2020.
Author:  CalmCreeper360 [ 14 Jun 2021, 15:12 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
MelonicOverlord wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 06:57
1. That gpu is bottlenecking the i9

2. In all seriousness, Windows 7 might just not support hardware that is that powerful, although I've never really tested myself. Not the biggest Windows expert.
funny tho that Windows 7 supports the GTX 3090 as well as the RX 6900 XT but only supports Intel CPU`s up to Skylake or Kabbylake at most.
Author:  MelonicOverlord [ 14 Jun 2021, 19:24 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
Plece wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 07:00
MelonicOverlord wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 06:57
1. That gpu is bottlenecking the i9

2. In all seriousness, Windows 7 might just not support hardware that is that powerful, although I've never really tested myself. Not the biggest Windows expert.
1. I know it is lol, I couldn't find a better GPU for a price that wasn't outrageous.

2. If that's true, why would the 2016-09 iso work?
1. Fair XD. I'm using 9th gen i5 and I still got a 1060 6gb. Guessed that would be the case.

2. Also a good point, pretty sure I wrote that message at like 5am...
Author:  Plece [ 15 Jun 2021, 01:21 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
R3n wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 12:26
LuckyCryWinScenic wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 12:18
R3n wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 11:55


If it was the USB 3, the 2016 ISO would not work either.
I dont blame the USB as the problem neither, could suspect the issue related to the updates, maybe they might be incompatible with 10th gen Intel.
Yes, I'm just waiting for Plece to test the 2017 update point. USB uses the generic 8.x+ drivers, so USB isn't really an issue.

Fun fact: The 2016-09 ISO was actually created from a creation mishap, the 2017 updates weren't integrated in the original "2017-08 release" back in early 2020.
Updating to 2017 works just fine as far as I can tell. Thanks.
Author:  Plece [ 15 Jun 2021, 01:23 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
LuckyCryWinScenic wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 11:37
MelonicOverlord wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 06:57
1. That gpu is bottlenecking the i9

2. In all seriousness, Windows 7 might just not support hardware that is that powerful, although I've never really tested myself. Not the biggest Windows expert.
Actually, i9 CPUs can handle Win7 just fine. Since i9 CPUs are started from the older predecessor, Skylake-X (which supports Win7 and 8.1 but only small users of it due to CPU brand number confusions), it's the chipsets that maybe the problem since Z390 and newer chipsets doesnt support the official USB 3.0 from Intel and needs an modded one.

Windows 7 can handle powerful hardware, it's also the chipsets as i stated earlier is the problem.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/windows-7-supported-intel-processors
There's official Intel Z490 Drivers for Windows 7; they can only be found on the NZXT N7-Z490 Driver Page, though they work on all Z490 boards.
Author:  Plece [ 15 Jun 2021, 01:28 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
R3n wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 08:43
Why is it like the helpful posts get skipped? It literally only takes a few minutes to read the ISO thread, and grab the 2017 updates for the 2016 ISO.

If you wanna know what the fucking update is, go and do it.
I read it, I just didn't want to reply until I tested out the updates.
Author:  K4sum1² [ 15 Jun 2021, 09:16 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2010-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
Plece wrote: *  15 Jun 2021, 01:21
R3n wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 12:26
LuckyCryWinScenic wrote: *  14 Jun 2021, 12:18


I dont blame the USB as the problem neither, could suspect the issue related to the updates, maybe they might be incompatible with 10th gen Intel.
Yes, I'm just waiting for Plece to test the 2017 update point. USB uses the generic 8.x+ drivers, so USB isn't really an issue.

Fun fact: The 2016-09 ISO was actually created from a creation mishap, the 2017 updates weren't integrated in the original "2017-08 release" back in early 2020.
Updating to 2017 works just fine as far as I can tell. Thanks.
I remember seeing some people with Ryzen sticking with that update point for stability. I suggested it because it may work for you and get you a few updates too. I would consider a config like that good enough for daily use.
Author:  Plece [ 11 Sep 2021, 17:17 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2020-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
Update: You can use inSpectre to stay fully updated without getting BSOD'd every 15 minutes. This program allows you to disable Meltdown and Spectre protections (or enable them again if you change your mind).
Author:  Compa [ 11 Sep 2021, 20:14 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2020-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
It doesn't surprise me that after the '2016-05' point would be where updates start to show severe stability regulation issues... I notice a significant performance drop in daily usage and seemingly deliberate HDD bottlenecking/memory leaking in Vista, 7 and 8.1 updates past 2016-05 even on time-relevant hardware, so honestly at this point you might as well just update where you need to.

Also, welcome to what is now a derpboard.
Author:  ImShreyasKaranth [ 09 Oct 2021, 06:44 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2020-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
Windows 7 isn't supported on this Processor. It's too new. Your processor even passes the compablity test of Windows 11.
Author:  K4sum1 [ 09 Oct 2021, 06:45 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2020-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)
ImShreyasKaranth wrote: *  09 Oct 2021, 06:44
Windows 7 isn't supported on this Processor. It's too new. Your processor even passes the compablity test of Windows 11.
That's not how that works here.
Author:  Plece [ 09 Oct 2021, 06:48 ]
Post subject:  BSoD on 2020-01 ISO (10th gen Intel)a
ImShreyasKaranth wrote: *  09 Oct 2021, 06:44
Windows 7 isn't supported on this Processor. It's too new. Your processor even passes the compablity test of Windows 11.
There's official drivers from Intel for my Chipset for Windows 7, it's not unsupported. The issue was because of an update pushed out to Windows 7 (The Spectre/Meltdown patch). I fixed it by disabling those software mitigations.
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