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Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 03 Apr 2021, 11:02
by K4sum1
This is going to be a thread where I post various concepts that I wish I could make, but I don't have the coding or other knowledge or resources to do so.

I'm only decent with paint.net, not coding.

Concept Eclipse Lun3r Browser

Posted: 03 Apr 2021, 11:03
by K4sum1
It would be a fork of Firefox 45 or 47 with working e10s, better WebExtensions support, able to quickly render Mega and VirusTotal and Discord and others, and general improvements that would come from focusing on actually improving the browser.

It would include a UI similar to Pale Moon and be 100% compatible with Pale Moon themes. Or the themes would be at least easy to port to the Lun3r browser.

Concept ePhone (Eclipse Phone or Everything Phone)

Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 04:34
by K4sum1
ePhone: (Eclipse Phone or Everything Phone)
Height: 120mm
Width: 65mm
Thickness: 9-9.5mm
120g? The phone is all plastic to make it lighter and more durable. If realized it may need a metal frame to dissipate heat, but I still want it as light as possible.
4.6in LCD, 16:9, 1080x1920, 480 DPI, 102mm x 57mm, ~75% screen to body ratio. Although 720x1280 ~320DPI is completely fine too. (LCD instead of OLED for durability and longevity (able to be taken apart without wrecking screen and no inevitable lines or burn in)
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All plastic phone including screen. Sides and back are flat, high quality matte plastic with the XZ1C plastic texture.
Front has the screen surrounded by big speakers on the top and bottom, similar to Axon 7.
Pre-applied glass screen protector with the option of either clear or privacy.
Sides are flat, but have a bit of rounding at the edges, as to not have sharp edges.
Back is removable, remember that?
Snapdragon 6 or 7 of current gen, perhaps even undervolted.
SIM and MicroSD go in slots under the back cover. Dual SIM if possible.
A wide(?) back camera, zoomable with OIS and an ultrawide back camera with OIS. Hopefully some sort of macro mode or enough zoom to make up for the lack of macro camera.
A wide front camera with OIS
Headphone Jack, remember that?
Good, high quality DAC for that headphone jack.
Ability to work like a DAC or Bluetooth audio transmitter when connected to PC.
IR blaster and receiver, remember that?
FM radio and transmitter, remember that?
USB 3 Type C (Or 4 if available)
Side fingerprint scanner
Rebindable action button
3000?mAh (or as big as it can be) removable battery. Able to be powered on without battery while plugged in. Software switch to limit battery charging to 80% on the kernel level.
Internal pins for various uses or attachments.
Wireless charging coil is connected to the back and attaches to a couple internal pins. Also has reverse charging too.
Illuminated Eclipse logo is also connected to the back and also attaches to a couple internal pins.

A few extra things to give context:

For the display, I do not like super thin bezels or notches or curved edges. I like an uninterrupted screen and enough margin as to not accidentally tap the screen.

I mention XZ1C when discussing the plastic build, this is the Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact. The plastic on the XZ1C is high quality, matte, feels flat or smooth while having a good amount of grip. I think this would be perfect here.

In the images, I've only mocked up black. It's the Eclipse site background tiled. This is meant to replicate a matte black plastic with a purple tinge. I might make mockups with other colors like purple, white, blue, green, red, or more in the future.

The screen comes with a glass screen protector to have the best of both worlds. It feels like glass and has the scratch protection of glass, but if it breaks, you can just take it off and keep using the phone. Screen would be inset enough to keep the glass protector slightly inset from the front plastic bezel for extra drop protection.

The speakers are so big because I can have trouble understanding people on the phone. Having a bigger speaker means it's louder and higher quality. The bottom speaker is equally big to make it more symmetrical and to have better and more equal stereo sound. Although I might be fine going tri bezelless and mono sound since it's mostly earpiece I want.

Optional features or changes:
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Yes I put this much work into something that may never exist. A man can dream.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 12:45
by OwnedByWuigi
I don't like super thin bezels or notches or curved edges. I find myself accidentally touching the screen on my XZ2C when I use it because of the thin bezels and flush design while the XZ1C has thicker bezels and the screen is a bit inset.
What about the Infinity Display found in Samsung S8/S9 but with thicker bezels on the sides, and flat sides to avoid accidental taps?

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 12:50
by K4sum1
OwnedByWuigi wrote: 22 Mar 2024, 12:45 What about the Infinity Display found in Samsung S8/S9 but with thicker bezels on the sides, and flat sides to avoid accidental taps?
That's basically a normal phone screen before things went to shit and what I did.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 17 Jul 2024, 10:52
by kloak
Eclipse vibrator when

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 06 Nov 2024, 23:21
by xperceniol_sal
I have good things to say about Lun3r - thus far it works quite well on my 2 XP Systems.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 08 Nov 2024, 01:44
by K4sum1
xperceniol_sal wrote: 06 Nov 2024, 23:21 I have good things to say about Lun3r - thus far it works quite well on my 2 XP Systems.
I kinda stole the name from this, but it's only a basic UXP fork, not the idealized concept from here. I'm not even sure if that's obtainable without me hiring multiple skilled programmers.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 11 Nov 2024, 01:58
by xperceniol_sal
K4sum1 wrote: 08 Nov 2024, 01:44
xperceniol_sal wrote: 06 Nov 2024, 23:21 I have good things to say about Lun3r - thus far it works quite well on my 2 XP Systems.
I kinda stole the name from this, but it's only a basic UXP fork, not the idealized concept from here. I'm not even sure if that's obtainable without me hiring multiple skilled programmers.
Just a quick question ... is it normal with Eclipse Hydra on youtube to get the upgrade the browser nag screen even spoofed? I can not get it to go away; whereas with Lun3r this is fine on youtube - in fact better than new moon.

Thanks :)

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 11 Nov 2024, 03:38
by K4sum1
xperceniol_sal wrote: 11 Nov 2024, 01:58 Just a quick question ... is it normal with Eclipse Hydra on youtube to get the upgrade the browser nag screen even spoofed? I can not get it to go away; whereas with Lun3r this is fine on youtube - in fact better than new moon.
I'm not sure, but I haven't used the browser that much. I don't think there would be any core differences that would make Hydra function differently than Lun3r but idk.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 18 Nov 2024, 23:22
by xperceniol_sal
Well ... I still find I get the upgrade browser nag on Hydra (native US and spoofed - I think youtube knows by now) but not on Lun3r - youtube everything works well.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 01:34
by xperceniol_sal
Lun3r does very well on browser audit (only 18 warnings and 0 critical ... even mypal68 has some critical) I'm confused though because I don't know what to change/set to make those go away ... such as I thought I had strict settings and websockets disabled (as shown below) but 1 slipped though. Please let me know if you want more detailed pictures/screenshots and I'll gladly provide them.

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I have to eat my words, MyPal68 also has not critical ... I was able to get it down with my handy-dandy user.js for both, but it only brought the warnings down a little and mostly the same ones.

Also to show I do have worker disabled but it still got through and my script I thought I had pretty tight, but again, some got through.

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Any assistance would be greatly appreciated ... no rush though. I plan to take my meds and go to bed early so I'll catch all-y'all tomorrow lol

Good night :?

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 21:16
by Duke
Actually R3dfox 132 had more warnings, not sure what to think about that :think:

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Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 23:47
by xperceniol_sal
^Yeah, well, I do hope @K4sum1 can shine some light on this for us. Awesome there are no critical warnings at least.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 20 Nov 2024, 02:21
by xperceniol_sal
Well ... I'm not sure because I can't use R3dfox but as far as Lun3r I disabled the insecure cyphers but it didn't change the score any, but why leave em when I have 7 preferred/recommended secure cypher suites.

user_pref("security.ssl.disable_session_identifiers", true);
user_pref("security.ssl.errorReporting.url", "");
user_pref("security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation", true);
user_pref("security.ssl.treat_unsafe_negotiation_as_broken", true);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_dss_des_ede3_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdh_ecdsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdh_rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_des_ede3_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_1024_rc4_56_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_gcm_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_gcm_sha384", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_null_md5", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_rc2_40_md5", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_40_md5", false);
user_pref("security.tls.version.enable-deprecated", false);
user_pref("security.tls.version.min", 3);
user_pref("security.tls13.aes_128_gcm_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.tls13.aes_256_gcm_sha384", false);

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Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 20 Nov 2024, 15:19
by Duke
Since the results are quite similar between different browsers (Firefox, R3dfox, LibreWolf, Lun3r) I assume it must be the Mozilla design fault.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 21 Nov 2024, 03:49
by K4sum1
xperceniol_sal wrote: 19 Nov 2024, 23:47 ^Yeah, well, I do hope @K4sum1 can shine some light on this for us. Awesome there are no critical warnings at least.
I'm not sure what this browser audit site thing is. I don't know why one would be worse than the other here.

Also this is not the thread for this.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 21 Nov 2024, 19:48
by xperceniol_sal
I understand!

Please do @K4sum1 let me know when you decide to update Lun3r as I'm using:

Build ID 20240714103302

Its a nice piece of software you have here.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 23 Nov 2024, 22:47
by xperceniol_sal
xperceniol_sal wrote: 20 Nov 2024, 02:21 Well ... I'm not sure because I can't use R3dfox but as far as Lun3r I disabled the insecure cyphers but it didn't change the score any, but why leave em when I have 7 preferred/recommended secure cypher suites.

user_pref("security.ssl.disable_session_identifiers", true);
user_pref("security.ssl.errorReporting.url", "");
user_pref("security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation", true);
user_pref("security.ssl.treat_unsafe_negotiation_as_broken", true);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_dss_des_ede3_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdh_ecdsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdh_rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_des_ede3_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_1024_rc4_56_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_gcm_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_gcm_sha384", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_null_md5", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_null_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_rc2_40_md5", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_40_md5", false);
user_pref("security.tls.version.enable-deprecated", false);
user_pref("security.tls.version.min", 3);
user_pref("security.tls13.aes_128_gcm_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.tls13.aes_256_gcm_sha384", false);

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Sorry @K4sum1 and you said this isn't the thread to address such, but I need to correct my mistake. I accidentally blocked 2 good cypher suites so scratch the above where I said you only have 7 secure suites (its actually 9) I don't want to mislead anybody in the wrong direction.

So this is all you need in your user.js:

user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_ecdsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.ecdhe_rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_gcm_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_gcm_sha384", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_aes_256_sha256", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_128_sha", false);
user_pref("security.ssl3.rsa_camellia_256_sha", false);

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Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 19 Dec 2024, 23:55
by xperceniol_sal
Bump :)

Just curious if Lun3r will receive any updates this year?

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 02:53
by K4sum1
mayhaps

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 19:55
by xperceniol_sal
K4sum1 wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 02:53mayhaps
I understand and thank you for the reply. Just look after yourself and I know something happened that is bothering you. We'll manage right now with what we have and you don't need the pressure right now. I hope things will improve you and can get your grove back. To tell you the truth, I'm actually struggling myself and this year has NOT started out very well for me and a lot of others. I think we have to bring things back to basics and appreciate what we do have and take a step back sometime and just heal. You will.

Take good care and I truly hope you feel better soon.

Sal

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 11:25
by Duke
xperceniol_sal wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 19:55 I think we have to bring things back to basics and appreciate what we do have
Yes, good days, bad days, I had that kind of feelings too. But now I believe the only way is to move on and not to hang back. Doing things is keeping you alive even if it might not be easy sometimes. To think too much is waking up the daemons we all have inside ourselves.
So yes, I did fight the bad feeelings, I will keep doing it and you will ;)

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 19 Feb 2025, 12:40
by K4sum1
Currently I'm working to r3dfox 134, then 135, and probably going to do 136. Lun3r and such are all pretty low on the priority chart. Although the more requests I get, the higher priority it gets.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 27 Feb 2025, 01:03
by xperceniol_sal
K4sum1 wrote: 19 Feb 2025, 12:40 Currently I'm working to r3dfox 134, then 135, and probably going to do 136. Lun3r and such are all pretty low on the priority chart. Although the more requests I get, the higher priority it gets.
Thank you for your attention. Yeah, I'm wondering how many people eve know about Lun3r browser - somebody confused it with Lunar Browser over at XP Forums but I gave up on that place too after I corrected the member.

No problem, I'm a patient guy and I know you're busy.

Be well as can be.

Sal

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 27 Feb 2025, 05:33
by The-10-Pen
xperceniol_sal wrote: 27 Feb 2025, 01:03
K4sum1 wrote: 19 Feb 2025, 12:40 Lun3r and such are all pretty low on the priority chart. Although the more requests I get, the higher priority it gets.
Yeah, I'm wondering how many people eve know about Lun3r browser
I just ran Lun3r for the first time and my trial was "unsuccessful".
My test page was Google Voice.
While I technically do *not* expect Google Voice to work in *any* Mozilla Fork, it is the only one I know that "triggers" the microphone.
What browsers are *supposed* to do is ask for *permission* to use the mic.
Lun3r (like almost *all* 'modern' Mozilla Forks based off of older Firefox bases!) *NO LONGER* has a *PERMISSIONS* setting !!!
Forks of 'newer' Firefox bases (IceCat, LibreWolf) has this in the Privacy section of the Settings page.
Forks of 'older' Firefox bases (Lun3r, Serpent, Basilisk, New Moon) *used* to have this as a popup bubble at the address bar's padlock area.
I haven't seen this (mic permission) popup bubble "work" in Serpent/Basilisk/New Moon in well over 3.5 years or so.
My only guess is that a "modern patch" applied to an "older base" broke this function *years* ago.
And I can only guess that the same has befallen Lun3r - no way to enable mic permission via GUI or addressbar popup.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 27 Feb 2025, 23:11
by xperceniol_sal
The-10-Pen wrote: 27 Feb 2025, 05:33 Forks of 'newer' Firefox bases (IceCat, LibreWolf) has this in the Privacy section of the Settings page.
Forks of 'older' Firefox bases (Lun3r, Serpent, Basilisk, New Moon) *used* to have this as a popup bubble at the address bar's padlock area.
Oh, Ok, I see. MyPal68 also has that setting in the privacy section of the setting page. I have no microphone or cam to test it. Would adding manually a Boolean "permissions.default.microphone" and setting it to zero help? I'm just tossing out ideas but hopefully somebody will know more than myself.

Good luck.

Concept Eclipse Products

Posted: 28 Feb 2025, 06:19
by The-10-Pen
Unsure.

Google Voice pops this up in IceCat and WORKS after clicking Allow.
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I get no popup in Lun3r.

MyPal68 does give the popup, but Google Voice will not connect a call even after clicking Allow.
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What "engine" is Lun3r based off of?
All I am smart enough to see is that Google Voice requires a newer "engine" than MyPal68 and that IceCat's "engine" *IS* new enough.