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Hi! I was wondering what the latest, non-Intel hardware is that supports Windows Vista. I have seen reports that Nvidia included support for Vista as late as 2016 (Correct me if that year is long). Basically, I am looking for hardware released after Intel Ivy Bridge's 2015 retirement that supports Vista. Like I said above, I'm fairly certain Nvidia was supported on Vista as late as 2016, though there may be some hardware that went later. Thanks in advanced for your help!
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So if you wanna avoid Intel, there's AMD FX, but there's no FX patch for Vista, so you're better off with 7 in this scenario.

Next up the list is AMD Ryzen, and you got two options for this. You can pray that your X370 board ships on an old BIOS, or grab a B550/X570 board and hope your network adapter works.
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R3n wrote: 20 May 2021, 01:27 So if you wanna avoid Intel, there's AMD FX, but there's no FX patch for Vista, so you're better off with 7 in this scenario.

Next up the list is AMD Ryzen, and you got two options for this. You can pray that your X370 board ships on an old BIOS, or grab a B550/X570 board and hope your network adapter works.
Interesting. Per this thread https://msfn.org/board/topic/177576-compatible-hardware-with-windows-vista/ it appears to say that all models of AMD Ryzen Summit Ridge should be supported and that Raven Ridge had yet to be tested. Anyone with the Ryzen Summit Ridge processor try Vista? Did you get Aero theme working. Other driver work?
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Moline wrote: 20 May 2021, 21:38
R3n wrote: 20 May 2021, 01:27 So if you wanna avoid Intel, there's AMD FX, but there's no FX patch for Vista, so you're better off with 7 in this scenario.

Next up the list is AMD Ryzen, and you got two options for this. You can pray that your X370 board ships on an old BIOS, or grab a B550/X570 board and hope your network adapter works.
Interesting. Per this thread https://msfn.org/board/topic/177576-compatible-hardware-with-windows-vista/ it appears to say that all models of AMD Ryzen Summit Ridge should be supported and that Raven Ridge had yet to be tested. Anyone with the Ryzen Summit Ridge processor try Vista? Did you get Aero theme working. Other driver work?
https://msfn.org/board/topic/181709-vista-bluescreens-randomly-and-often-on-2700x/
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182224-vista-on-ryzen-platform-2020-update
https://msfn.org/board/topic/180750-would-an-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-work-on-windows-vista
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R3n wrote: 20 May 2021, 21:57
Moline wrote: 20 May 2021, 21:38
R3n wrote: 20 May 2021, 01:27 So if you wanna avoid Intel, there's AMD FX, but there's no FX patch for Vista, so you're better off with 7 in this scenario.

Next up the list is AMD Ryzen, and you got two options for this. You can pray that your X370 board ships on an old BIOS, or grab a B550/X570 board and hope your network adapter works.
Interesting. Per this thread https://msfn.org/board/topic/177576-compatible-hardware-with-windows-vista/ it appears to say that all models of AMD Ryzen Summit Ridge should be supported and that Raven Ridge had yet to be tested. Anyone with the Ryzen Summit Ridge processor try Vista? Did you get Aero theme working. Other driver work?
https://msfn.org/board/topic/181709-vista-bluescreens-randomly-and-often-on-2700x/
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182224-vista-on-ryzen-platform-2020-update
https://msfn.org/board/topic/180750-would-an-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-work-on-windows-vista
Interesting. Could I modify an AMD Graphics driver that supports both Vista and 7 to work on my Acer Aspire A315-21 that has AMD Radeon R4 Stoney Ridge? This processor does support 7 and 8.1 as I have both installed as a multi-boot alongside the latest Windows 10 build (just in case). If that won't work, any other post-2015 hardware that supports Vista and the Aero interface?
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Moline wrote: 21 May 2021, 01:11
R3n wrote: 20 May 2021, 21:57
Moline wrote: 20 May 2021, 21:38

Interesting. Per this thread https://msfn.org/board/topic/177576-compatible-hardware-with-windows-vista/ it appears to say that all models of AMD Ryzen Summit Ridge should be supported and that Raven Ridge had yet to be tested. Anyone with the Ryzen Summit Ridge processor try Vista? Did you get Aero theme working. Other driver work?
https://msfn.org/board/topic/181709-vista-bluescreens-randomly-and-often-on-2700x/
https://msfn.org/board/topic/182224-vista-on-ryzen-platform-2020-update
https://msfn.org/board/topic/180750-would-an-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-work-on-windows-vista
Interesting. Could I modify an AMD Graphics driver that supports both Vista and 7 to work on my Acer Aspire A315-21 that has AMD Radeon R4 Stoney Ridge? This processor does support 7 and 8.1 as I have both installed as a multi-boot alongside the latest Windows 10 build (just in case). If that won't work, any other post-2015 hardware that supports Vista and the Aero interface?
If this R4 is around or before the release of the RX 3XX series, perhaps.
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R3n wrote: 21 May 2021, 01:14
Moline wrote: 21 May 2021, 01:11
Interesting. Could I modify an AMD Graphics driver that supports both Vista and 7 to work on my Acer Aspire A315-21 that has AMD Radeon R4 Stoney Ridge? This processor does support 7 and 8.1 as I have both installed as a multi-boot alongside the latest Windows 10 build (just in case). If that won't work, any other post-2015 hardware that supports Vista and the Aero interface?
If this R4 is around or before the release of the RX 3XX series, perhaps.
Might be. The laptop that has it was bought brand new in 2019 with Windows 10.
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Moline wrote: 21 May 2021, 01:53
R3n wrote: 21 May 2021, 01:14
Moline wrote: 21 May 2021, 01:11

Interesting. Could I modify an AMD Graphics driver that supports both Vista and 7 to work on my Acer Aspire A315-21 that has AMD Radeon R4 Stoney Ridge? This processor does support 7 and 8.1 as I have both installed as a multi-boot alongside the latest Windows 10 build (just in case). If that won't work, any other post-2015 hardware that supports Vista and the Aero interface?
If this R4 is around or before the release of the RX 3XX series, perhaps.
Might be. The laptop that has it was bought brand new in 2019 with Windows 10.
What CPU?
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R3n wrote: 21 May 2021, 01:14
What CPU?
It appears to be an AMD Radeon A6-9220e with 5 compute cores 2C+3G 1.60 GHz (Full name from Windows 7 Computer Properties: AMD A6-9220e RADEON R4 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G 1.60 GHz)
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Moline wrote: 21 May 2021, 15:03
R3n wrote: 21 May 2021, 01:14
What CPU?
It appears to be an AMD Radeon A6-9220e with 5 compute cores 2C+3G 1.60 GHz (Full name from Windows 7 Computer Properties: AMD A6-9220e RADEON R4 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G 1.60 GHz)
Maybe? The CPU is from 2017, but uses a older architecture. I'll need to do some more research later.
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R3n wrote: 21 May 2021, 01:14
Maybe? The CPU is from 2017, but uses a older architecture. I'll need to do some more research later.
Cool! Let me know what you dig up. I'm gonna do some research myself and see what I can find.
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Well, the 2013 Acer Aspire E1-531 that I was using with Windows Vista might be starting to hit the fan. Was doing good, shut it down, then restarted it as I realized I forgot to copy down driver info from a few drivers (was going to install Vista to a 1TB HDD instead and wanted to integrate a few drivers such as graphics and wireless with vLite, but wanted to search for them as I tried with the 7 drivers from Acer and most such as Graphics did not work), and it started to make a loud-ish noise. I also noticed that a part of the case (the bottom portion that contains the keyboard, HDD, etc) was acting weird and would either jut upwards when I opened it (with a loud noise as well) or jut downwards to the normal closed position when the lid was closed (also with that same loud noise).

Currently researching the latest available hardware that supports Vista if me and/or R3n can't get Vista to work on my Radeon R4 Stoney Ridge (it can install just fine with USB 2.0, but has no graphics driver currently). This sucks as it was my best computer that could run Windows Vista and Extended Kernel. Had 8GB of RAM, a 15 inch screen, etc. All my other laptops had much smaller screens, were a lot older and had 2 and 4GB of ram respectively. I have since put the 8GB of RAM to good use by upgrading my Acer Aspire R3-131t with it from 2GB to 8GB.
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Moline wrote: 25 May 2021, 04:10 Well, the 2013 Acer Aspire E1-531 that I was using with Windows Vista might be starting to hit the fan. Was doing good, shut it down, then restarted it as I realized I forgot to copy down driver info from a few drivers (was going to install Vista to a 1TB HDD instead and wanted to integrate a few drivers such as graphics and wireless with vLite, but wanted to search for them as I tried with the 7 drivers from Acer and most such as Graphics did not work), and it started to make a loud-ish noise. I also noticed that a part of the case (the bottom portion that contains the keyboard, HDD, etc) was acting weird and would either jut upwards when I opened it (with a loud noise as well) or jut downwards to the normal closed position when the lid was closed (also with that same loud noise).

Currently researching the latest available hardware that supports Vista if me and/or R3n can't get Vista to work on my Radeon R4 Stoney Ridge (it can install just fine with USB 2.0, but has no graphics driver currently). This sucks as it was my best computer that could run Windows Vista and Extended Kernel. Had 8GB of RAM, a 15 inch screen, etc. All my other laptops had much smaller screens, were a lot older and had 2 and 4GB of ram respectively. I have since put the 8GB of RAM to good use by upgrading my Acer Aspire R3-131t with it from 2GB to 8GB.
If you're not a gamer, an Ivy Bridge Thinkpad would be a good investment.
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R3n wrote: 25 May 2021, 04:43 If you're not a gamer, an Ivy Bridge Thinkpad would be a good investment.
I'd go with any of the Sandy/Ivy Bridge Thinkpads/Dell Latitudes/HP Elitebooks or Probooks if buying a good laptop for use with Vista/XP. I don't game much (but will try a few rounds of Minecraft later) but do virtualization (not intensive virtualization) and some other tasks like Python programming.

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Win10-Hater wrote: 25 May 2021, 06:25
R3n wrote: 25 May 2021, 04:43 If you're not a gamer, an Ivy Bridge Thinkpad would be a good investment.
I'd go with any of the Sandy/Ivy Bridge Thinkpads/Dell Latitudes/HP Elitebooks or Probooks if buying a good laptop for use with Vista/XP. I don't game much (but will try a few rounds of Minecraft later) but do virtualization (not intensive virtualization) and some other tasks like Python programming.

Question: Is Intel HD 3000 enough to play Minecraft while getting moderate frame rates?
It might be. I think it would be more dependent on how much RAM it has. I might go with an Ivy Bridge laptop, but is there anything later than 2015 that provides support for Vista?
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Moline wrote: 25 May 2021, 14:17
Win10-Hater wrote: 25 May 2021, 06:25
R3n wrote: 25 May 2021, 04:43 If you're not a gamer, an Ivy Bridge Thinkpad would be a good investment.
I'd go with any of the Sandy/Ivy Bridge Thinkpads/Dell Latitudes/HP Elitebooks or Probooks if buying a good laptop for use with Vista/XP. I don't game much (but will try a few rounds of Minecraft later) but do virtualization (not intensive virtualization) and some other tasks like Python programming.

Question: Is Intel HD 3000 enough to play Minecraft while getting moderate frame rates?
It might be. I think it would be more dependent on how much RAM it has. I might go with an Ivy Bridge laptop, but is there anything later than 2015 that provides support for Vista?
Haswell/Broadwell would work too, with Maxwell GPUs having driver support, but there are some intermittent boot issues Vista suffers from, but XP is fine.
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R3n wrote: 25 May 2021, 17:22
Haswell/Broadwell would work too, with Maxwell GPUs having driver support, but there are some intermittent boot issues Vista suffers from, but XP is fine.
But there is no graphics driver for Windows Vista for these two platforms. Someone did hack the Haswell Windows XP graphics driver, but they did not get the Aero interface upon installing it due to XP not supporting it.
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Ivy Bridge processors were a good line, and my laptop has treated me well under Windows 7. Still have it, still use it. The 3632QM is reliable, as is the 3630QM, and a slightly faster clock (ask R3n).
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Iceman wrote: 26 May 2021, 04:44 Ivy Bridge processors were a good line, and my laptop has treated me well under Windows 7. Still have it, still use it. The 3632QM is reliable, as is the 3630QM, and a slightly faster clock (ask R3n).
Any Ivy Bridge laptops that were produced/on sale in 2015/2016 (2015 the year when Ivy Bridge was discontinued)? My Acer Aspire E1-531 bit the dust today. Besides the noise it would make when closing/opening the lid, the fan started to make noise on and off. The graphics would also show weird lines and freeze up whenever it did, even in the BIOS. I then tried to open it up to see what was wrong and broke a hinge in the process.

It was a really great laptop that served various purposes well from 2013-2021, including its most recent stint with Windows Vista Extended Kernel. RIP. Needless to say its 8GB of Ram is usable in a much newer Acer to upgrade that from 2 to 8.
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Moline wrote: 28 May 2021, 22:14 Any Ivy Bridge laptops that were produced/on sale in 2015/2016 (2015 the year when Ivy Bridge was discontinued)? My Acer Aspire E1-531 bit the dust today. Besides the noise it would make when closing/opening the lid, the fan started to make noise on and off. The graphics would also show weird lines and freeze up whenever it did, even in the BIOS. I then tried to open it up to see what was wrong and broke a hinge in the process.

It was a really great laptop that served various purposes well from 2013-2021, including its most recent stint with Windows Vista Extended Kernel. RIP. Needless to say its 8GB of Ram is usable in a much newer Acer to upgrade that from 2 to 8.

I purchased my Ivy Bridge 'Dell Inspiron 15R' in late 2012, just in time, before Dell and other PC manufacturers stopped pre-installed copies of the Win 7 OS. This was intentional. Changing the OS from "10" would have voided any manufacturers warranty. I'm not sure when the last of the "Ivy Bridge" PCs and laoptops were sold, honestly. Could've been 2015. According to intel's website, it was introduced the 3rd quarter of 2012.

The Acer you speak of, that was a pretty rugged machine? Sounds like you got your moneys worth out of it. I too had a laptop (Compaq) go dead because of lid issues. It was sent off for warranty work, but never returned. Apparently, the part needed couldn't be sourced. Best Buy was nice enough to replace the unit with something comparable (and newer) at no charge. It didn't freeze up or anything, the screen simply wouldn't come on because of a faulty switch.

One last question, how were you able to use the old RAM in a newer Acer? Just got lucky?

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Iceman wrote: 29 May 2021, 04:59
Moline wrote: 28 May 2021, 22:14 Any Ivy Bridge laptops that were produced/on sale in 2015/2016 (2015 the year when Ivy Bridge was discontinued)? My Acer Aspire E1-531 bit the dust today. Besides the noise it would make when closing/opening the lid, the fan started to make noise on and off. The graphics would also show weird lines and freeze up whenever it did, even in the BIOS. I then tried to open it up to see what was wrong and broke a hinge in the process.

It was a really great laptop that served various purposes well from 2013-2021, including its most recent stint with Windows Vista Extended Kernel. RIP. Needless to say its 8GB of Ram is usable in a much newer Acer to upgrade that from 2 to 8.

I purchased my Ivy Bridge 'Dell Inspiron 15R' in late 2012, just in time, before Dell and other PC manufacturers stopped pre-installed copies of the Win 7 OS. This was intentional. Changing the OS from "10" would have voided any manufacturers warranty. I'm not sure when the last of the "Ivy Bridge" PCs and laoptops were sold, honestly. Could've been 2015. According to intel's website, it was introduced the 3rd quarter of 2012.

The Acer you speak of, that was a pretty rugged machine? Sounds like you got your moneys worth out of it. I too had a laptop (Compaq) go dead because of lid issues. It was sent off for warranty work, but never returned. Apparently, the part needed couldn't be sourced. Best Buy was nice enough to replace the unit with something comparable (and newer) at no charge. It didn't freeze up or anything, the screen simply wouldn't come on because of a faulty switch.

One last question, how were you able to use the old RAM in a newer Acer? Just got lucky?

And sorry about your loss. RIP.
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Moline wrote: 29 May 2021, 20:07 The 8GB Ram stick was the same style in the Acer 2-in-1 (I mentioned this laptop in a different thread). In a bizarre twist, the 2GB Ram stick from the new Acer did not work for some reason. At least that Acer has 8GB instead of 2GB.
The module could be of a higher base Megahertz range and not backwards compatible with your older Acer. Only speculation, as there are other variables that could be the reason, but this is the most logical explanation. If it works, it works.
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vista works well on my ryzen 5 3600 on ASRock B450M/ac but lacks video drivers for my RX480 and wifi drivers for my 2016 intel wifi card

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iUser04 wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 05:51 vista works well on my ryzen 5 3600 on ASRock B450M/ac but lacks video drivers for my RX480 and wifi drivers for my 2016 intel wifi card
Does the graphics driver feature a Vista (6.0) section? If so, you may have to add in your processor to it. If the section is blank, you are out of luck until Win32 figures out how to get Windows 7 drivers working on Vista.
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The AMD FX9590 8 Core CPU would still be a fairly good processor for Windows XP and Vista clocking at 5 Ghz.
The downside is that its power hungry.
The Asrock 990FX Killer (Fatality 1) Motherboard would be a perfect fit for that CPU but its getting harder to find that specific Motherboard online.
Its also compatible with XP.
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Moline wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 14:53
iUser04 wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 05:51 vista works well on my ryzen 5 3600 on ASRock B450M/ac but lacks video drivers for my RX480 and wifi drivers for my 2016 intel wifi card
Does the graphics driver feature a Vista (6.0) section? If so, you may have to add in your processor to it. If the section is blank, you are out of luck until Win32 figures out how to get Windows 7 drivers working on Vista.
Nah, This gpu came out way past what AMD thought Vista's expiration date was. Even with an inf mod it doesn't work.

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iUser04 wrote: 09 Jun 2021, 09:50
Moline wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 14:53
iUser04 wrote: 02 Jun 2021, 05:51 vista works well on my ryzen 5 3600 on ASRock B450M/ac but lacks video drivers for my RX480 and wifi drivers for my 2016 intel wifi card
Does the graphics driver feature a Vista (6.0) section? If so, you may have to add in your processor to it. If the section is blank, you are out of luck until Win32 figures out how to get Windows 7 drivers working on Vista.
Nah, This gpu came out way past what AMD thought Vista's expiration date was. Even with an inf mod it doesn't work.
Ah. Then you will have to wait for Win32 to add in functions to NTOSKRNL. He said we are months away from graphics drivers being able to work (he is busy right now).
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This thread has served its purpose. I ended up getting a 2014 Dell Latitude E6530 with Intel Ivy Bridge. This replaces my broken Acer Aspire E1-531 that had Sandy Bridge. The eBay listing promised an Ivy Bridge motherboard with Nvidia Graphics and 8GB of Ram, but imagine my surprise when I got the laptop yesterday and discover that it is purely Ivy Bridge (No Nvidia Graphics, only Intel) and that is has 16 GB of Ram, not 8. I am not complaining here as I got more than I bargained for. The Windows Experience Index Score pulls in a 5.6 for Gaming Graphics and 5.9 for everything else. The score will be posted below for proof.
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Moline wrote: 03 Jul 2021, 03:59 This thread has served its purpose. I ended up getting a 2014 Dell Latitude E6530 with Intel Ivy Bridge. This replaces my broken Acer Aspire E1-531 that had Sandy Bridge. The eBay listing promised an Ivy Bridge motherboard with Nvidia Graphics and 8GB of Ram, but imagine my surprise when I got the laptop yesterday and discover that it is purely Ivy Bridge (No Nvidia Graphics, only Intel) and that is has 16 GB of Ram, not 8. I am not complaining here as I got more than I bargained for. The Windows Experience Index Score pulls in a 5.6 for Gaming Graphics and 5.9 for everything else. The score will be posted below for proof.

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I would rather have Nvidia graphics than double the RAM, but ok.

Edit: I do feel like a thread similar to this would still be useful, but I will need to remake the thread entirely.
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wR3n wrote: 03 Jul 2021, 16:53
Moline wrote: 03 Jul 2021, 03:59 This thread has served its purpose. I ended up getting a 2014 Dell Latitude E6530 with Intel Ivy Bridge. This replaces my broken Acer Aspire E1-531 that had Sandy Bridge. The eBay listing promised an Ivy Bridge motherboard with Nvidia Graphics and 8GB of Ram, but imagine my surprise when I got the laptop yesterday and discover that it is purely Ivy Bridge (No Nvidia Graphics, only Intel) and that is has 16 GB of Ram, not 8. I am not complaining here as I got more than I bargained for. The Windows Experience Index Score pulls in a 5.6 for Gaming Graphics and 5.9 for everything else. The score will be posted below for proof.

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I would rather have Nvidia graphics than double the RAM, but ok.

Edit: I do feel like a thread similar to this would still be useful, but I will need to remake the thread entirely.
That would be nice! Make sure to also include hardware with drivers that can be modded to work with Vista. More should be moddable once the Extended Kernel is improved upon months from now. That should feature an improved NTOSKRNL.exe, which should allow Windows 7+ drivers to work under Vista.
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