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K4sum1 wrote: 06 Sep 2025, 00:38
Duke wrote: 05 Sep 2025, 23:39
Duke wrote: 29 Aug 2025, 22:16 The taskbar bug is back in v141.0.3 :?
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6857#p6857
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6901#p6901

It's working fine in v140.0.4.
Annoyance is still there in v142.0.1 :|
https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/issues/78
I see. But I thought you were able to fix it after v137.0.2 ?
Working fine in v136.0.4
Not working in v137.0.2
Working fine in v138.0.5.

If it can help, this workaround is still valid:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6884#p6884

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Duke wrote: 30 Aug 2025, 09:04 Please restore back this useful feature.
... The native screenshot tool has been re-enabled by default starting with r3dfox-v142.0.1:

https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v142.0.1
r3dfox specific changes on top of the previous v141.0.3 build:

Re-enabled translations and screenshot browser components.
Thanks :+1:

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K4sum1 wrote: 06 Sep 2025, 00:38
Duke wrote: 05 Sep 2025, 23:39
Duke wrote: 29 Aug 2025, 22:16 The taskbar bug is back in v141.0.3 :?
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6857#p6857
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=6901#p6901

It's working fine in v140.0.4.
Annoyance is still there in v142.0.1 :|
https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/issues/78
Looks like a fix has been found:
https://github.com/e3kskoy7wqk/Firefox-for-windows-7/issues/78#issuecomment-3260248215

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Problems with some emojis with R3dfox 142 compared to R3dfox 132:

Color emojis on this page:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Unicode/Character_reference/1F000-1FFFF

R3dfox 132:
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And at the bottom of this page the last 3 flags are missing with R3dfox 142:
https://www.unicode.org/Public/emoji/latest/emoji-test.txt

R3dfox 132:
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R3dfox 142:
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Firefox ESR 115.28 gives the same results as R3dfox 132.

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Hello there,

I've started using the last x64 version on Windows 7 part of my retro-gaming rig and it feels great for now, but I did notice a small bugger : the three upper right options (Close, etc.) only appear when I activate the (main) title bar - as shown below. They'll still work, but are invisible...
Sorry for reporting that here, as I'm having issues with my (horribly old) Githhub account. It's been at least a decade since my last connection over there and I'll probably need to open a new one.

By the way, I also get from time to time the impression of slightly lower loading performances when handling the loading of multiple tabs, compared to Firefox 155 ESR. No special testing and I care so little about such delays that I wouldn't call that an issue, but, just by curiosity, is there any potential reason why a retro-gaming rig (with an old I5 680 and 16gb of DDR3) could struggle a tiny bit more with R3dfox ? or why 155 ESR could, maybe, open some websites a tiny bit faster ?
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BenjaminK wrote: 26 Sep 2025, 02:15 I did notice a small bugger : the three upper right options (Close, etc.) only appear when I activate the (main) title bar - as shown below. They'll still work, but are invisible
That occurred with older versions of R3dfox but I thought it should be fixed now.
Is it the same if you use another theme ?

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Duke wrote: 27 Sep 2025, 00:18
BenjaminK wrote: 26 Sep 2025, 02:15 I did notice a small bugger : the three upper right options (Close, etc.) only appear when I activate the (main) title bar - as shown below. They'll still work, but are invisible
That occurred with older versions of R3dfox but I thought it should be fixed now.
Is it the same if you use another theme ?
Yes, I considered that too, but no dice... Switching between 141.0.3 and 142.0.1 didn't fix anything either. Are there any parameters I could check or experiments I could make to help with your diagnostic ?
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That's a problem which occured to some people on Windows 7 in the past but I thought it should be fixed now.
I have no idea about what to do, if you could do anything on your side. So I give it to K4sum1 the developer of R3dfox ;)

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Let's do that Mr Nukem ;)... To Github it is, then.

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Firefox 143.0.3 has been released with some fixes:
https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/143.0.3/releasenotes/

and important security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2025-80/

Just saying ;)

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How could I build r3dfox installer for my native language? Of course I could just install .xpi language pack later on but Programs and Features still shows the browser's base language as en-US.

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Firefox 144 is out with some important security fixes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2025-81/

Let's fall on our knees and pray K4sum1 to not let us down 🙏
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I'll get around to it soon. Haven't been feeling like it recently and just wanted to game. Now I don't feel like gaming and more like getting some stuff done.

Something else I want to try is seeing if I can get Windows 7 (and potentially earlier) booting on certain ASRock AM4 boards with certain CPU configurations.
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K4sum1 wrote: 16 Oct 2025, 19:08 Something else I want to try is seeing if I can get Windows 7 (and potentially earlier) booting on certain ASRock AM4 boards with certain CPU configurations.
Not ASRock, but I managed to install Windows 7 on ASUS PRIME B450-PLUS board, AMD Ryzen 3 3200G, and no dGPUs with CSMWrap. I still had to enable CSM to get the built-in VGA fonts that CSMWrap needs. Otherwise, it runs solid albeit the startup sound seems to be cut off (?) when playing through HDMI audio to monitor. CSMWrap also released a new version mentioning the ability to load dumped ROMs for VGA fonts requirement which I want to take a look someday...

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K4sum1 wrote: 17 Oct 2025, 03:21 This is what I mean
acpi.sys replacement does not work?
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I've traced it to hal,dll
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When you are creating the new Version 144 of r3dfox?

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I prefer next version of r3dfox ESR rather than chasing the constant updates to be honest :mrgreen:

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I'm working on next 143 and soon will work on 144. Next release will be big as I'm making the browser a lot more like Librewolf.
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I hope you are not changing to much - I must be able to login into https-Sites and the site's Browser up to date check must work!

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K4sum1 wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 01:58 I'm making the browser a lot more like Librewolf.
That sounds and looks interesting. :)
But make sure not to force or override any setting we may have already tweaked ;)

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K4sum1 wrote: 21 Oct 2025, 01:58 I'm working on next 143 and soon will work on 144. Next release will be big as I'm making the browser a lot more like Librewolf.
Is this the same for future ESR releases? Looking forward to it.
I just want my Zapp's Photon theme to keep working. :D

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If it a so big project, perhaps it is better to make it later as a second version with new name like r3dstealthfox.
To today it is important to have a up too date browser, because of more and more important site's make Browser up to date checks, in worst case you get no access.
Your browser is the last hope for a poor man like me... - actual FF ESR 115.29.0 is recognized as too old...

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Maybe I could just release 143 and 144 without this, but I got onto this task because I can't enable the menu bar (without the always enabled bug) by default without an enterprise policy. Librewolf has some privacy stuff done in policies, so the main reason for this is to keep menu bar enabled by default.

Now I'm a bit stuck, I still need to go through some stuff, but it's so big and head so small that I get overwhelmed and don't want to do it. I have no idea when I will get around to it. However I'll get around to it soon so I can update the browser.

Pretty much the only browsers I use on Windows (aside from Chromium and Lun3r) is r3dfox and r3dfox ESR. So as long as I use Windows, updates will come. If I no longer use Windows, expect a r3dfox release to come out for the new OS.
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Taiclaw wrote: 22 Oct 2025, 20:28 Your browser is the last hope for a poor man like me... - actual FF ESR 115.29.0 is recognized as too old...
How about spoofing User-Agent?
Go to about:config, add a string-type preference named general.useragent.override with value Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:140.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/140.0. (Replace the number after rv: and Firefox/ to approriate ESR/stable version at the time you do that.)
If you are using r3dfox then you can also spoof only some specific sites by suffixing the domain name after preference name like general.useragent.override.jwx.org :arrow:

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K4sum1 wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 12:27 Maybe I could just release 143 and 144 without this
Yes, good idea. Because for us end users it's more important to have an up to date browser with recent security fixes than a bunch of new features which can wait and be delayed. ;)

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Is that a problem with Active Directory and using Local Group Policy?

I don´t kow so much about FF and the up to date check, but would it help to fake a actual FF
by using a thief function to steal all current certificates (functional and security) and the version number of a current FF and intrigue them in r3dfox - mini-updates...
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Duke wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 20:25Yes, good idea. Because for us end users it's more important to have an up to date browser with recent security fixes than a bunch of new features which can wait and be delayed. ;)
If it were up to me, I would just want r3dFox to be stock Firefox ESR 140.x, with the ability to run it on Windows 7 and Windows 8. That's it. No Anti-DRM or Wildevine either, since I want to be able to watch streaming news channels. But I'll live with that.

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