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wuggy wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 23:54 holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?

Dact-ae is *VERY* tame considering THIS is what Official (I used PortableApps, the results are the same!) Firefox looks like on its VERY FIRST LAUNCH.
Fresh OS install, very first install-and-launch of Firefox.
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox *with* an internet connection active.
Install with internet DISABLED COMPLETELY, jump through about six hundred and sixty six "hoops" to CONFIGURE IT, et cetera.
So that at least FUTURE launches don't reach out to OVER TWO HUNDRED connections !!!

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 01:24 One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox

FTFY

1) that snippet is only part of my original, ie, OUT OF CONTEXT

2) I really have no clue what "FTFY" stands for. F..k That F..k You ???

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 01:24

wuggy wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 23:54 holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?

Dact-ae is *VERY* tame considering THIS is what Official (I used PortableApps, the results are the same!) Firefox looks like on its VERY FIRST LAUNCH.
Fresh OS install, very first install-and-launch of Firefox.
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox *with* an internet connection active.

Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1

wuggy wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 02:20 Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1

That doesn't look correct.
For one, you would have had to disable Dact-ae's default schemery of installing uBO without asking you if you want uBO.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 02:32

wuggy wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 02:20 Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1

That doesn't look correct.
For one, you would have had to disable Dact-ae's default schemery of installing uBO without asking you if you want uBO.

I never got the uBO bundling to work for me, even on a fresh profile.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 01:24 jump through about six hundred and sixty six "hoops" to CONFIGURE IT, et cetera.
So that at least FUTURE launches don't reach out to OVER TWO HUNDRED connections !!!

Once again you are talking about DNS queries and not established connections. We already had this discussion:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=7151#p7151

If you want to see active connections then use TCPView: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/tcpview
or NetworkTrafficView if you want to use another tool from NirSoft: https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/network_traffic_view.html

You're basically the ONLY person I've heard that basically claims to IGNORE dns queries.
I'm not going to IGNORE them - THEY SHOULD NOT EXIST, you don't need a dns query unless you need to USE IT.
I've done the TCP log route also - and FIREFOX and FORKS really do make a sh#tTon of connections - until you jump through hoops.
Which is "more important" still seems a bit of "to may toe, to mah toe" to me.

You really do not need a "dns lookup" unless you need to USE IT, *they should not exist* and I view it as *biased* to think otherwise.
Sorry, just do.

BOTH of them are CONNECTIONS to the OUTSIDE WORLD.
NEITHER should exist unless the USER opts to connect to anywhere within that outside world.
NO browser should EVER have to connect to the OUTSIDE WORLD just because it was OPENED and the user hasn't even told it WHERE TO GO yet.

That really is a BIG DEAL to me. NO OUTSIDE WORLD CONNECTIONS just because I opened a d@mn web browser!


ps - reading or posting here lately is a bit of a NIGHTMARE... spinning circles for SEVERAL minutes... Ugh...

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 10:37 Also, I really really REALLY HATE that uBO is "included by default" !!!

Well, why? I really like uBO for content blocking. And even if you did hate it, can't you just uninstall? I didn't get the uBO bundle when i upgraded from 13.0 to 13.1 so sorry for any mistakes

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 21:32 BOTH of them are CONNECTIONS to the OUTSIDE WORLD.

No.
One and only DNS server is not the whole outside world.
Plus you are not sending data, telemetry or whatever else information to a DNS server but only the resolution request of a domain name to an IP number.
Nothing else.

Not to mention that many things on your computer are connecting to the outside world once you simply boot it. The video driver is one example but many parts of the OS are also making connections to the outside world.

If you don't want connections that you can't control then don't even connect your computer to the internet.

True. But that doesn't mean I "need" those BS 'requests'. I don't like them happening and so I use browsers that do not have them.

And you keep overlooking, it's not simply about the DNS because TCPs *also occur*.
I personally think DNSs are easier to track because I always have to do *DOZENS* (plural!) of IP Address Lookups when parsing a TCP log. So yeah, I prefer the DNS logs because they don't require that tedious task.

To Each Their Own.
None of my browsers ping a DNS server just because I open it.

Your computer, your rules.
My computer, my rules.

NOTHING ELSE.

enmanuel wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 23:19 I really like uBO for content blocking.

As do I !!! !!! !!!
But I intentionally use an OLDER version and I have personally HEAVILY modified it.
Something I do not want to do each and every time a USELESS update is rolled out.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.