Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise)

[The-10-Pen]

holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?

Dact-ae is *VERY* tame considering THIS is what Official (I used PortableApps, the results are the same!) Firefox looks like on its VERY FIRST LAUNCH.
Fresh OS install, very first install-and-launch of Firefox.
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox *with* an internet connection active.
Install with internet DISABLED COMPLETELY, jump through about six hundred and sixty six "hoops" to CONFIGURE IT, et cetera.
So that at least FUTURE launches don't reach out to OVER TWO HUNDRED connections !!!

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[Iffy-chan]

One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox

FTFY

[The-10-Pen]

1) that snippet is only part of my original, ie, OUT OF CONTEXT

2) I really have no clue what "FTFY" stands for. F..k That F..k You ???

[wuggy]

holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?

Dact-ae is *VERY* tame considering THIS is what Official (I used PortableApps, the results are the same!) Firefox looks like on its VERY FIRST LAUNCH.
Fresh OS install, very first install-and-launch of Firefox.
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox *with* an internet connection active.

Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1

[The-10-Pen]

Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1

That doesn't look correct.
For one, you would have had to disable Dact-ae's default schemery of installing uBO without asking you if you want uBO.

[wuggy]

Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1

That doesn't look correct.
For one, you would have had to disable Dact-ae's default schemery of installing uBO without asking you if you want uBO.

I never got the uBO bundling to work for me, even on a fresh profile.

[Duke]

jump through about six hundred and sixty six "hoops" to CONFIGURE IT, et cetera.
So that at least FUTURE launches don't reach out to OVER TWO HUNDRED connections !!!

Once again you are talking about DNS queries and not established connections. We already had this discussion:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=7151#p7151

If you want to see active connections then use TCPView: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/tcpview
or NetworkTrafficView if you want to use another tool from NirSoft: https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/network_traffic_view.html

[The-10-Pen]

You're basically the ONLY person I've heard that basically claims to IGNORE dns queries.
I'm not going to IGNORE them - THEY SHOULD NOT EXIST, you don't need a dns query unless you need to USE IT.
I've done the TCP log route also - and FIREFOX and FORKS really do make a sh#tTon of connections - until you jump through hoops.
Which is "more important" still seems a bit of "to may toe, to mah toe" to me.

You really do not need a "dns lookup" unless you need to USE IT, *they should not exist* and I view it as *biased* to think otherwise.
Sorry, just do.

BOTH of them are CONNECTIONS to the OUTSIDE WORLD.
NEITHER should exist unless the USER opts to connect to anywhere within that outside world.
NO browser should EVER have to connect to the OUTSIDE WORLD just because it was OPENED and the user hasn't even told it WHERE TO GO yet.

That really is a BIG DEAL to me. NO OUTSIDE WORLD CONNECTIONS just because I opened a d@mn web browser!


ps - reading or posting here lately is a bit of a NIGHTMARE... spinning circles for SEVERAL minutes... Ugh...

[enmanuel]

Also, I really really REALLY HATE that uBO is "included by default" !!!

Well, why? I really like uBO for content blocking. And even if you did hate it, can't you just uninstall? I didn't get the uBO bundle when i upgraded from 13.0 to 13.1 so sorry for any mistakes

[Duke]

BOTH of them are CONNECTIONS to the OUTSIDE WORLD.

No.
One and only DNS server is not the whole outside world.
Plus you are not sending data, telemetry or whatever else information to a DNS server but only the resolution request of a domain name to an IP number.
Nothing else.

Not to mention that many things on your computer are connecting to the outside world once you simply boot it. The video driver is one example but many parts of the OS are also making connections to the outside world.

If you don't want connections that you can't control then don't even connect your computer to the internet.

[The-10-Pen]

True. But that doesn't mean I "need" those BS 'requests'. I don't like them happening and so I use browsers that do not have them.

And you keep overlooking, it's not simply about the DNS because TCPs *also occur*.
I personally think DNSs are easier to track because I always have to do *DOZENS* (plural!) of IP Address Lookups when parsing a TCP log. So yeah, I prefer the DNS logs because they don't require that tedious task.

To Each Their Own.
None of my browsers ping a DNS server just because I open it.

Your computer, your rules.
My computer, my rules.

NOTHING ELSE.

[The-10-Pen]

I really like uBO for content blocking.

As do I !!! !!! !!!
But I intentionally use an OLDER version and I have personally HEAVILY modified it.
Something I do not want to do each and every time a USELESS update is rolled out.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[wuggy]

holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?

Dact-ae is *VERY* tame considering THIS is what Official (I used PortableApps, the results are the same!) Firefox looks like on its VERY FIRST LAUNCH.
Fresh OS install, very first install-and-launch of Firefox.
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox *with* an internet connection active.
Install with internet DISABLED COMPLETELY, jump through about six hundred and sixty six "hoops" to CONFIGURE IT, et cetera.
So that at least FUTURE launches don't reach out to OVER TWO HUNDRED connections !!!


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Here it is on 13.2 (mind you, this is still in early ALPHA), quite a bit more tame compared to 13.1.

[The-10-Pen]

Here it is on 13.2 (mind you, this is still in early ALPHA), quite a bit more tame compared to 13.1.

Awesome!
VERY GREATFUL that somebody is taking "trivial" connections SERIOUSLY !!! KUDOS!
I'm not biased. I'm really not. Just been "doing this" for a very long time, never believe "marketing" claims, it's really that simple.
I have no browsing habits that need "hidden" or anything, I just believe in PRIVACY RIGHTS and "telemetry" of any kind P*SS#S ME OFF !!!

I do (kind of) admit that Firefox/LibreWolf P*SS#S ME OFF THE MOST because they GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to "market" themselves towards 'privacy'.
But yeah, MAYBE we have BEATEN THAT DEAD HORSE enough. I said *MAYBE*


Source: https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/browser-connected-domains-telemetry-test-2025-by-sizeofcat/26866

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[wuggy]

Also a small thing which somehow wasn't done by anyone else but now, Dactyloidae is now XDG compliant (on Linux and BSDs)

What that means is the browser's configuration and stuff will be under the .config folder in /home/ instead of it's own folder in /home/ (why??)

[Duke]

FYI this is the official page about Firefox automatic connections:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections

[BAVBR]

I'm trying to finalize a Dactyloidae language pack for Brazilian Portuguese, based on what I did for Serpent 52, aware that it is still under development and receiving modifications, but my progress has stalled with errors in about:home, History and Favorites.

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I checked the source code and made all the changes to the files that were modified, but I still haven't been successful; I tried to extract the omni.ja files, but the parts relating to the language are not being extracted and I am unable to review them.

Anyway, I'll leave the preview version for anyone who wants to test it: https://send.now/i2sg33lugahg

PS.: I tested the Linux version on BigLinux Based in Manjaro 26.0.3 (kernel 6.12.77 and Mesa 26..0.1) and noticed some glitches in the interface and webextensions but it is working without any major problems.

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[Iffy-chan]

Also a small thing which somehow wasn't done by anyone else but now, Dactyloidae is now XDG compliant (on Linux and BSDs)

What that means is the browser's configuration and stuff will be under the .config folder in /home/ instead of it's own folder in /home/ (why??)

Oh, neat. Even current iterations of Firefox make a .mozilla folder, if I'm not mistaken.

Also, consider making Mojeek the default search engine, if you read their blog you'll see what I mean. It's actually privacy-friendly, and uses its own crawler, unlike most other 'smaller' search engines. https://www.mojeek.com/

[wuggy]

Also, consider making Mojeek the default search engine, if you read their blog you'll see what I mean. It's actually privacy-friendly, and uses its own crawler, unlike most other 'smaller' search engines. https://www.mojeek.com/

I’m only using DuckDuckGo because it helps support the Pale Moon developers financially (their deal with DDG is their primary source of income).

I’ll make Mojeek an option though.

[Iffy-chan]

Also, consider making Mojeek the default search engine, if you read their blog you'll see what I mean. It's actually privacy-friendly, and uses its own crawler, unlike most other 'smaller' search engines. https://www.mojeek.com/

I’m only using DuckDuckGo because it helps support the Pale Moon developers financially (their deal with DDG is their primary source of income).

I’ll make Mojeek an option though.

Thank you! DDG/Bing is better for non-English results, anyhow.

As it stands, by the way, the default bookmarks bar also not only lacks a link to Eclipse and/or the Pale Moon website, but the repository link is outdated and I can't even find 'bookmarks' in the [...] dropdown menu for some reason? Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, lol.

There's a typo in this text: "No notification will be shown until you restart Dactyloidae", it should be 'notifications'.
Not sure about 'alternate' engines in the description about search bars. I'm pretty sure alternate is a verb and alternative is the adjective, though apparently it's an Americanism to use 'alternate' everywhere...

(Also, please readd the option to set the new tab page, that was removed in Firefox 48? It seems like it was only ever removed because Chrome did it...)