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Compatibility Mods :: Realtek RTL8157 USB 5GbE Ethernet on Windows 7/8 :: Reply by the_r3dacted

no_email@example.com (the_r3dacted) — Tue, 31 Mar 2026 18:46:26 +0000

I also wanted to test the RTL8126, I was hopeful since it's Realtek PCIe 5GbE and the Realtek USB 5GbE worked fine, however the driver inf had nothing for beyond 2.5GbE. I finally tested it today, and I modded the driver and got it to install, however it only "negotiates" at 100 megabits and sends/receives no data. So I guess the PCIe driver has no 5G/10G capability at all while the USB driver has it just disabled.

Something else to note with the RTL8157, it seems consistently unstable when used with Ryzen (500 series chipset, 5000 series CPU) USB controllers, however it's completely fine with other USB controllers in the same machine. (other being sample size of 1 though. Intend to test Intel long term at some point soon. Also I'd like to get a(nother) UPD720201 based card to test with since those are the only decent add in controllers you can get.) Unstable meaning it will BSOD the system every so often with 0x00000133 or 0x00000139, however that's usually after multiple days of the system being powered on and probably more the fault of the shitty Ryzen USB controller anyways. I haven't had enough time to see if Linux or Windows 10 encounters this issue though, although I have had one weird freeze with Linux when using it.

I was using the built in USB port in my 2080 Ti for this adapter, but that GPU has since died. Due to having no other controller, I've been using AQC107 Ethernet recently. It's actually pretty decent on 8.1 with the 2.1.18.0 driver from 2019/06/13, while the same controller is awful on 10 and Linux, not sure why. Wouldn't recommend it though as it's considerably more expensive on a PCIe card than just getting a RTL8157 and a (hopefully) decent USB PCIe card.

On a maybe more positive note, I want to eventually fork the Dietmar open source RTL8125 driver and attempt to port it to the RTL8126 and see what it can do. Which would mean the card could work on even XP. However I have no timeline for that, nor do I know if I could even do it.

Research Network :: Either fully remove Rust from Firefox or backport engine changes from Quantum onto UXP :: Author wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 11:25:40 +0000

Title is self explanatory. Ideally I'd want ESR 68 or 78 if that is possible. I know Rust is more baked in, in later releases like 91.

General Software & Hardware :: Dynamic Web Content and User Custom Scripts :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 20:52:10 +0000

Fixed. I couldn't get MutationObserver to work and that's the route I've usually seen for this type of activity.

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General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by Dustman0192

no_email@example.com (Dustman0192) — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 16:56:19 +0000

What about Element on Matrix? As far as I'm concerned, Discord won't be getting any better. They'll continue to sell more of your data, they'll continue to introduce more predatory cosmetic cash grabs, so on and so forth. As far as I'm aware, they haven't IPO'd yet but, once they do, it will cause their services to further degrade.

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by Niko

no_email@example.com (Niko) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 11:39:11 +0000

Dustman0192 wrote: ↑10 Apr 2026, 16:56 What about Element on Matrix? As far as I'm concerned, Discord won't be getting any better. They'll continue to sell more of your data, they'll continue to introduce more predatory cosmetic cash grabs, so on and so forth. As far as I'm aware, they haven't IPO'd yet but, once they do, it will cause their services to further degrade.

Matrix as a protocol has some big issues too. I recommend you check out the part about matrix on this article. https://jabber.greatsword.xyz/jabber-vs-everyone.html

And yeah Discord will be getting worse, and worse. So I think the sooner people leave it the better.

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by ThatRandomToast

no_email@example.com (ThatRandomToast) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 14:18:35 +0000

Regarding age restrictions and ID requirements, are more companies and countries trying to follow China?

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 14:27:32 +0000

ThatRandomToast wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 14:18 Regarding age restrictions and ID requirements, are more companies and countries trying to follow China?

I'm not really sure what that means.
But on the surface, don't companies kind of "have to" ???
Some form of PROTECTING THEMSELVES from BAD PARENTING on account of "consumers" that were never supposed to "consume" in the first place.

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by Niko

no_email@example.com (Niko) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 15:03:28 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 14:27
ThatRandomToast wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 14:18 Regarding age restrictions and ID requirements, are more companies and countries trying to follow China?
I'm not really sure what that means.
But on the surface, don't companies kind of "have to" ???
Some form of PROTECTING THEMSELVES from BAD PARENTING on account of "consumers" that were never supposed to "consume" in the first place.

No. They don't have to. It's the job of the parents sadly to not allow their children on these platforms. The companies are only doing it because 1. They love to collect as much user data as possible to later sell, and 2. Because the governments are telling them to do it.

Most of the blame for this entire thing happening, can be placed on bad parents giving their children unreconstructed internet access.

General Software & Hardware :: New shitty Discord update, and the better alternative. :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 15:22:08 +0000

Niko wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 15:03 No. They don't have to. It's the job of the parents sadly to not allow their children on these platforms. The companies are only doing it because 1. They love to collect as much user data as possible to later sell, and 2. Because the governments are telling them to do it.

Most of the blame for this entire thing happening, can be placed on bad parents giving their children unreconstructed internet access.

Agreed!

BUT... and I can only speak for here in the US, it's all just a bunch of smoke and mirrors, you can be a bad parent all you want, when your child of that environment commits suicide, the bad parent becomes a MILLIONAIRE by suing the company and blaming the COMPANY for their CHILD'S *mental health issues* instead of their own parenting !!!

So whether we like it or not, the company has EVERY D@MN RIGHT to PROTECT THEMSELVES from BAD PARENTS suing them !!! !!!

You can blame the company all you want.
You can blame the bad parent all you want.

Everybody has to protect themselves. No way around it!

Circular logic. Dog chaising its tail.

When bad parents sue companies and blame the company, why in H#LL would that company not prevent FUTURE LAWSUITS of the same kind ???
Which, duh!, *mandates* that these companies perform some level of ACCOUNTABILITY since the parents clearly are NOT.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Author wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 05:30:41 +0000

Recently had to use and compile modern Firefox, and it is an experience straight from hell.
(Whoever thought it was a good idea to shove rust into Firefox seriously needs a mental checkup.)

For one, why does it take 3 hours to compile, whereas UXP takes 20 mins? (Spoiler, most of that is just compiling Rust packages)

And it's also compiling stupid shit like WebVR, in the WINDOWS VERSION. Maybe it would make an ounce of sense if it was on Android or something similar to that, but still, WHY?

So-called "modern" web browsers are the most stupid shit I have ever seen. All a web browser needs to do is load pages, maybe a sprinkle of JavaScript, not whatever the modern web's crap is.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by Iffy-chan

no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 07:21:33 +0000

I mean, I've already linked to a gigantic webpage that talks about this previously: https://digdeeper.club/articles/mozilla.xhtml

TL;DR they're more focused on controlled-opposition performative activism than building a browser. It's intentional.

As for web developers being morons, it's both a mix of agenda-ism, "smart" devices and laziness.

I wish something independent like NetSurf would get more attention, to be quite honest. I've always liked the idea of a totally independently written browser (not to mention, it's been ported to some interesting platforms, such as RISC OS and the Dreamcast).

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 11:32:21 +0000

I kinda think that Firefox Sucks So Much because their userbase just "accepts" unconventional aspects of Firefox without REAL thought behind it.

With RESPECT towards members here, we have that "blind acceptance" even HERE.

I realize that I'm in the minority, doesn't mean I can't be heard.
I cite Firefox's background DNS (merely as a RECENT discussion herein).
These "background" connections, regardless of how "trivial" or data-centric, FORCE software firewall rules to be OPENED WIDER.
Things like "loopback" rules. I will not go into detail, research yourself! This has been a Firefox "negative" for over TWENTY YEARS.
If you use very strict parent-process-based firewall rules, Firefox has to be opened WIDER than browsers without these "trivial" DNS connections.
Call me paranoid, DON'T CARE!

To me, Firefox users are COMPLACENT and MAKE UP EXCUSES when "called out".
Forgive me for saying so, but they see themselves as "different" and "going against the grain" and MAKE EXCUSES to label it as "right".

There are some NON-COMPLACENT users - ie, things like this --
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/browsing/firefox-users-slam-mozilla-over-controversial-data-privacy-update

But the reality is that MOST users of Firefox really DON'T CARE, they have BLIND TRUST in Firefox and create excuses when called out on it.
"But it's the lesser of two evils", or something like that.

I can't speak towards COMPILING Firefox, I have done it, but I also didn't trust my output.
But then again, I didn't really trust the input "base code" either.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 13:00:09 +0000

I suppose I should add the DISCLAIMER that when I say "most Firefox users", I refer to folks like my SISTER and NOT folks that become members of web sites such as this. Something my sister would NEVER do. Facebook, yes. Something real like this, no, never in a million years. And that subset of "most Firefox users" couldn't tell you the difference between DNS, TCP, or UDP. But could list three dozen acronyms used on Facebook that I would have to look up to know what the H#ll she is trying to say.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by DoNotThrowOldPCsAway

no_email@example.com (DoNotThrowOldPCsAway) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 15:14:47 +0000

Anyone else noticed how fast version 148 was only for the whole speed improvement to go away in 149?

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 18:40:14 +0000

DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 15:14 Anyone else noticed how fast version 148 was only for the whole speed improvement to go away in 149?

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 19:03:26 +0000

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General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 19:15:22 +0000

Can you test Dactyloidae against this? I want to see what you get.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 19:18:16 +0000

wuggy wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 19:15 Can you test Dactyloidae against this? I want to see what you get.

Absolutely... One moment...

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 19:44:41 +0000

All of these (and previous) were done in a 4GB RAM TeamOS Win11 Ultra Lite VM where I strip away additional items that TeamOS still leaves in.
With no background or on-the-side "load" while performing test. No other apps open other than browser being tested at the time.
No extensions, out of the box, as-is, no config changes of any kind.

Comparing Dact-ae to "modern" seems UNFAIR, so I include a more apples-to-apples comparison with UXP Serpent 52 and Official Pale Moon.
I've never ran UXP Serpent 55 to know where it would fall in comparison.

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General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 19:51:49 +0000

Just for reference. Also in the same Win11 VM as all above screencaps. This is what I use on any of my XP machines/VMs.

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General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by Iffy-chan

no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 20:06:25 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 11:32 "But it's the lesser of two evils", or something like that.

It's an extremely 'old school' attitude to be viciously anti-Chromium and pro-Firefox in technical-minded communities, which is probably a holdover from the IE6-era rivalry days... but also part of a performative/symbolic 'fuck you' to Big Tech, without realising Mozilla are very much a part of that Big Tech themselves.

'Firefox good because backed by nonprofit', and 'Chromium bad because backed by for-profit' is a very simple way of looking at things, and isn't usually correct either.

Not to mention, the way Mozilla treated the SeaMonkey team also cemented my opinion of them as a bunch of establishment crooks worse than Google could ever be. If they weren't so disingenuous about 'ooh we're the good guys!!!! please like us!!!' and just admitted they're a bunch of fucking cunts I'd probably like them just that little bit more, but as it stands, their browser is not only shite but they are also a bunch of two-faced wankers along with it.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 20:09:15 +0000

Iffy-chan wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 20:06 ↑

Agreed !!!

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 21:00:32 +0000

Iffy-chan wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 20:06 It's an extremely 'old school' attitude to be viciously anti-Chromium

OK, be 'modern' and go with Chrome then. It's well known to be much better about privacy than Firefox and the Google guys are soooo cool with all of us

Food for thought: read about Manifest V3:
https://ublockorigin.com

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 21:35:06 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 21:00 ↑

AGREED also !!!

No browser is "perfect" !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!!
What "gets my goat" is when Firefox people (you?) shout "Fire" from rooftops FALSELY CLAIMING that Firefox is "the best thing since sliced bread".

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 21:38:44 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 21:00 Food for thought: read about Manifest V3:
https://ublockorigin.com

In case you missed it (because I "talk a lot", lol), MV3 is *one of the reasons* that I *hate* uBO force-included in recent 'fox forks.
Although, yeah, I probably (probably) shouldn't complain about that UNTIL (it will happen eventually, IMO) Firefox/Forks no longer support MV2.

I *intentionally* use a MV2 version of uBO.
My point here being "don't assume I'm on MV3 uBO" even on browsers that air-quotes "no longer support" MV2.
Even Chrome/Chromium Dev v146 *STILL* runs MV2 extensions. Requires a couple of hoops to jump through, but nothing major.
And hoops that geekie nerdie types that join forums like this are WELL AWARE OF.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 23:25:09 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 21:00 OK, be 'modern' and go with Chrome then. It's well known to be much better about privacy than Firefox and the Google guys are soooo cool with all of us

No browser is perfect. NONE.
Yeah, every Firefox Fan always always always cites "privacy". Yawn!
Or every Firefox Fan is so GIGANTICALLY biased against anything-everything "corporate". Another Yawn!
Always confuses me as a "low to middle Working Class" with a 401k.
Serious Question - Do Firefox users have 401k's? Seriously, do they ???
My sister does NOT !!! And that's my closest reference for "Firefox user".
But my brother-in-law DOES. But he's a truck driver and doesn't even use computers, only phones and phone apps.

But anywhoo...
No browser is perfect. Some of us MUST HAVE the PERFORMANCE of ditching-the-sh*t out of Firefox.
I used to be (USED TO BE!) a Firefox Fanboy. Dead serious! Then Pale Moon when Firefox went DOWNHILL.
Then Pale Moon went DOWNHILL also!

No browser is perfect. I really do *REQUIRE* PERFORMANCE in my browser.
I always have AT LEAST *FIVE* videos playing at any given time.
Hey, to each their own, it's my way of life and I love it.
I don't scroll around on the remote during commercials, I only need to mute that video and unmute another.

It's great and I love it. To each their own. CAN'T DO THIS in crappy browsers. Just can't!

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no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 23:41:49 +0000

I'm well aware of Manifest V3, Duke. Mozillarse clearly allowed it to go through as they have a say in the WebExtensions protocol, they are just as complicit in the watering down of content blocking as Google are. Besides, can't one just patch support back in if they really must? (See: The Browser Which Must Not Be Named)

Also, Chromium !== Chrome. That's like saying roytam1's forks are the same as the official Pale Moon project, or that Pale Moon is Firefox itself.

Can I just ask The-Ten-Pen/NotHereToPlayGames though, why you have five videos playing at one time? How are you capable of keeping up with them all? (Not to mention, CNN and Fox News... what on earth?)

Do agree with preloaded extensions being a bad thing, as personally I think it should be up to the user, if they want to install a specific content blocker or not. Some people like uMatrix over uBlock Origin for instance or just simply dislike additional third-party content they didn't ask for.

(Also, we don't all live in the USA: the state pension pot isn't called a 401k outside the US. For the record, you might actually be onto something here in regards to the differing priorities between those who are pretty much grafting day to day and those who live a relatively comfortable life - it's easier to worry about trivial things when you're well-off)

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 23:41:46 +0000

My default go-to is Ungoogled Chromium... Then Official Chromium... Then Official Chrome... Then Official Edge...

Unfortunately, I need all of them.
I prefer to use OLDER versions. But not "too old".
My Ungoogled is still at v138. My Chromium and Chrome are both at v144. My Edge is at v146.

My city utilities (cursed they be!) never makes it past a Clouflare test on ANYTHING older than two months old!
So I keep a PORTABLE un-embedded-with-OS version of Edge basically just for paying my city utilities.

Netflix only works on Official Chrome (I'm sure it works on Edge also, I just don't because Edge consumes more RAM).

And H#LL YEAH, CNN *and* Fox! When I tell you I am "purple" and a "centrist", I really am.
I HATE THE "EXTREMISTS" ON BOTH SIDES !!!

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 02:45:35 +0000

Iffy-chan wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 23:29 Mozillarse

Enough said.

There are actually two major browsers: Chromium and Firefox. Any other browser is a fork of these two ones.
So using names and shouting is useless. Make your choice but don't waste your time trying to convince other people.
My choice is a recent browser + Manifest V2 as long as possible. Because I want to be able to choose what my browser has access to. That's what is really important for me and not the so-called attitude of the browser team. Because in this case I'd never use anything made by Google.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 00:06:25 +0000

They all suck. I haven't found a browser with all of the following:

Has UI I like.
Renders fonts in a way that don't make my eyes bleed.
Doesn't randomly crash, lag spike or memory leak.
Doesn't have random issues with certain extensions.
Performs well while not being a resource hog.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 00:26:39 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 00:06 They all suck. I haven't found a browser with all of the following:

Has UI I like.

Renders fonts in a way that don't make my eyes bleed.

Doesn't randomly crash, lag spike or memory leak.

Doesn't have random issues with certain extensions.

Performs well while not being a resource hog.

Agreed, same here.
The UI of Mypal bugs the crap out of me. Not even sure "why", to be honest.
It's some form of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and I just find it and those like it UGLY.

Funny thing about UI, I was watching a so-called "futuristic" movie the other day, forgot what it was already, but they had a scene where they were using NETSCAPE NAVIGATOR FOUR from the late 90's. I know I was on Netflix at the time and nothing in my watch history is older than from 2024. So some movie company in 2024 thought the imagery of Netscape Navigator 4 made the scene look "futuristic" instead of "nostalgic".

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by enmanuel

no_email@example.com (enmanuel) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 00:58:04 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 00:26 Funny thing about UI, I was watching a so-called "futuristic" movie the other day, forgot what it was already, but they had a scene where they were using NETSCAPE NAVIGATOR FOUR from the late 90's. I know I was on Netflix at the time and nothing in my watch history is older than from 2024. So some movie company in 2024 thought the imagery of Netscape Navigator 4 made the scene look "futuristic" instead of "nostalgic".

I mean, it was futuristic when it came out.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 09:56:24 +0000

Now my thread on PM forum was locked, how cute. At this point, I've had it, this project doesn't get another cent out of me. Or any other, for that matter.

My goodwill, it's pointless. Being a good person is pointless, so I will not answer such calls, not anymore.

With that said, I remember the time when using a web browser wasn't a daily grief. That time is a distant memory at this point. Then something changed, a sort of glitch in the Matrix.

Was it the death of Presto? Trident? I know Firefox kept getting worse. Modern Firefox is so bad that when I used it recently on another laptop with 4 GB of RAM, the tab would crash on me literally every 5 min. That was with mere 3 tabs at most.

Pale Moon inherited everything from when Firefox started going downhill...lag spikes, memory leaks...and adds its own issues on top. The former have been an issue since forever. My most recent grief, I cannot login to my water company's website without browser hanging if PassIFox and uBO are enabled. KeePass integration is a must for me and it's always been elusive in a way. The base responsiveness is lackluster as-it-is and it just gets worse with use. You cannot get things in REAL LIFE done without it slowing down even further. Do I even need to mention its community thinks they're so much better than everyone else?

I wanted to give Chromium a honest try in recent times, I mean for real, not just as a last resort I open for 5 min if I really must then close. But no, impossible. I thought the script for bumping font contrast actually helps with readability, but as it turned out, it merely extended the time before my eyes hurt from 5 min to 10 min. So useless.

Forks are more or less irrelevant to me as they copy-paste all the bad stuff.

So what do I do? As it is, I just suffer with Pale Moon as I wait for the better browser that will never come.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 12:22:05 +0000

TOTALLY AGREED !!!

As you know, I was still on XP a year and a half to two years ago.
Time alludes me at times, but right around there or so.
But I was on x64 so I did not have the RAM limitations that most XP users have.
Nowadays, you can NOT, simply can NOT, no way, no how, you can NOT browse the internet with 4 GB RAM.
GIVE UP THAT ENDEAVOR IMMEDIATELY.

I (finally) migrated to Win10. But 2016 and 2022 versions, NOTHING NEWER!
I use Chromium pretty much exclusively nowadays. I have too many streaming apps that don't work on Ungoogled Chromium.
At least they "didn't", I should try again, I have seen more and more reddit threads on how to get Ungoogled to stream, so I should revisit.

These are the "font fixes" I use in Chromium/Chrome/Edge:

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 12:39:56 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 09:56 I cannot login to my water company's website

I can't help but LAUGH and ROLL ON THE FLOOR at this one. Not because it is "funny", per se.
But because it's always my WATER COMPANY that is ALWAYS my first monthly web site that FORCES a browser update!

It's not always the same web site, but is ALWAYS one of the two.
I have two water bill payments.
I have a water company that supplies me with water and it has its own billpay.
I have a city sewer and storm water (and trash pickup) and it has its own billpay.

It is ALWAYS one of those two web sites that FORCES a browser update !!!

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no_email@example.com (the_r3dacted) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:06:30 +0000

DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 15:14 Anyone else noticed how fast version 148 was only for the whole speed improvement to go away in 149?

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 19:03 2026-04-16_14-56-30.jpg

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I wonder if you could test alpha 149 builds to figure out where this dip occur ed. Could fix the issue in r3dfox.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/2026/01/
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/2026/02/

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 21:38 In case you missed it (because I "talk a lot", lol), MV3 is *one of the reasons* that I *hate* uBO force-included in recent 'fox forks.
Although, yeah, I probably (probably) shouldn't complain about that UNTIL (it will happen eventually, IMO) Firefox/Forks no longer support MV2.

I *intentionally* use a MV2 version of uBO.

The version included in r3dfox and in the Firefox addon store is MV2 though. There is a uBO Lite that is MV3, and from what I've heard it works pretty well and can even be better than MV2 uBO, but I haven't tried it.

Iffy-chan wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 23:29 Some people like uMatrix over uBlock Origin for instance

Those are two different types of addons. uMatrix is not the same sort of content blocker as uBlock Origin. They're kinda made to be used together, which I do.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 23:41 And H#LL YEAH, CNN *and* Fox! When I tell you I am "purple" and a "centrist", I really am.
I HATE THE "EXTREMISTS" ON BOTH SIDES !!!

Corporate controlled opposition *and* literally argued in court that they were not news and just entertainment, and argued that no sane person would take them seriously. You could do a lot better.

UCyborg wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 00:06

Renders fonts in a way that don't make my eyes bleed.

Doesn't randomly crash, lag spike or memory leak.

Doesn't have random issues with certain extensions.

Performs well while not being a resource hog.

Yeah all that comes from needing to parse the modern internet. I don't think we will ever get that.

However for fonts I would like to bring back Cairo and GDI to r3dfox. However WebRender is a shit, and I did try seeing how well the Basic compositor in 91 fares with Cairo, but it doesn't fare very well. I'd need to fix GDI in WebRender somehow.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 00:26 The UI of Mypal bugs the crap out of me. Not even sure "why", to be honest.
It's some form of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and I just find it and those like it UGLY.

Out of the last three major Firefox redesigns, I prefer the Firefox 68 style the most imo. Although it's a low bar and only beats Austrailous or whatever because the tab shape isn't horrible. 89+ I hate the floating tabs and the line icons are worse, but not worse enough for me to replace them in r3dfox. Except for where it makes the downloads list horrible to check for failed downloads.

If I were to make a Mypal68 fork I'd bring a similar tab design to r3dfox, but it would be near the same for the most part, idk if I would change very much with it.

UCyborg wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 09:56 Was it the death of Presto? Trident? I know Firefox kept getting worse. Modern Firefox is so bad that when I used it recently on another laptop with 4 GB of RAM, the tab would crash on me literally every 5 min. That was with mere 3 tabs at most.

That seems like a weird RAM leak. I didn't encounter this when I tested Librewolf on my T52 with 1GB. It was just very slow, even when I accidentally ran it without a page file. Although that was on x86 Debian Linux.

UCyborg wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 09:56 Pale Moon inherited everything from when Firefox started going downhill...lag spikes, memory leaks...and adds its own issues on top.

Combination of modern internet being awful and them forking at literally the worst point. Firefox 52 was basically the end point where Firefox consistently got slower and slower every release. I feel the browser would've been better off had they just kept extending the 38 ESR codebase. Although you could still do better.

UCyborg wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 09:56 Forks are more or less irrelevant to me as they copy-paste all the bad stuff.

So what do I do? As it is, I just suffer with Pale Moon as I wait for the better browser that will never come.

Next version of Lun3r will come with Dactyloidae's performance improvements, and if things go well, both browsers should merge, so updates should be at least a little more consistent.

Going from the point before, someone should retest the Firefox ESR performance from the beginning to current day. It would be interesting to see how it changed over time. Then test alpha builds to see where the speed decreases or increases came from, maybe those could be fixed in the fork.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:18:54 +0000

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:06
The-10-Pen wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 23:41 And H#LL YEAH, CNN *and* Fox! When I tell you I am "purple" and a "centrist", I really am.
I HATE THE "EXTREMISTS" ON BOTH SIDES !!!
Corporate controlled opposition *and* literally argued in court that they were not news and just entertainment, and argued that no sane person would take them seriously. You could do a lot better.

AGREED !!!
There is NO SUCH THING as "televised NEWS" here in the USA.
All we have is "commentators", NOT "journalists".
That goes for Fox, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, *ALL OF THEM*, nothing but COMMENTATORS.
"Journalism" is DEAD.
All we can really do here in the USA is listen to COMMENTS from both sides and THINK FOR YOURSELF (a lost art here in the USA!).

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:24:46 +0000

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:06 I wonder if you could test alpha 149 builds to figure out where this dip occur ed. Could fix the issue in r3dfox.
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/2026/01/
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/2026/02/

Um, are you asking me to download a HUNDRED different nightly builds and test each and every HUNDRED ???
Well, in a nutshell - NO!

Narrow that list of HUNDRED (no, I didn't count, but those FTPs are GIGANTIC) down to ten or so and SURE, yeah, I can do that.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:39:12 +0000

Here's what APPEARS TO BE "first" 149 and "last" 149.
But I was just clicking around quickly without spending too much time to track down.

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no_email@example.com (the_r3dacted) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:39:48 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:24 Um, are you asking me to download a HUNDRED different nightly builds and test each and every HUNDRED ???
Well, in a nutshell - NO!

Narrow that list of HUNDRED (no, I didn't count, but those FTPs are GIGANTIC) down to ten or so and SURE, yeah, I can do that.

No, that's inefficient. Take the first 149 build and the last 149 build to get a baseline. Extract them, delete the update.exe and pingsender.exe so it doesn't do stupid shit. Run the browser from a .bat file containing `firefox.exe -profile Profile` so it uses a self contained profile, and test. After that baseline, go somewhere in the middle, repeat. If faster, skip a bit later, test. If slower skip a bit before, test. Narrow it down that way.

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no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:41:08 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 12:22 I have too many streaming apps that don't work on Ungoogled Chromium.

Interesting. Which ones ?

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 12:22 These are the "font fixes" I use in Chromium/Chrome/Edge

Please can you check these pages with Chromium:
https://www.unicode.org/Public/emoji/latest/emoji-test.txt
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Unicode/Character_reference/1F000-1FFFF

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:44:59 +0000

So just from those two, the very first 149 was SLOWER than 148.
And every 149 since that first just got SLOWER.
I'll grab one "in the middle" (Feb 2nd) here shortly.

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no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:46:58 +0000

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:06 uMatrix is not the same sort of content blocker as uBlock Origin. They're kinda made to be used together, which I do.

You may also want to check this one (remember RequestPolicy):
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tprb/

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:54:10 +0000

first = 452
middle = 416
last = 407

That seems like enough data points to me. 149 just got slower and slower and slower with each and every nightly.

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no_email@example.com (the_r3dacted) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 13:55:54 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:44 So just from those two, the very first 149 was SLOWER than 148.
And every 149 since that first just got SLOWER.
I'll grab one "in the middle" (Feb 2nd) here shortly.

Yeah, the nightly builds are built with less optimizations (afaik could be wrong) as building with LTO and PGO and such increases the amount of time required to build. So for something they need to compile 1-2 times per day, I could see them wanting to skip that process.

It could also be that the time from last nightly to first release (I think like 1-2 months) resulted in more optimizations being added or performance reducing bugs being fixed.

Duke wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:46
the_r3dacted wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:06 uMatrix is not the same sort of content blocker as uBlock Origin. They're kinda made to be used together, which I do.
You may also want to check this one (remember RequestPolicy):
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tprb/

I don't think I've ever used RequestPolicy, and I'm not sure how this would be better. It looks like it does the same thing as uMatrix but with less fine grained control.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:54 first = 452
middle = 416
last = 407

That seems like enough data points to me. 149 just got slower and slower and slower with each and every nightly.

416 to 407 is small enough that it could just be run variance. The +- is literally 39.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 14:05:29 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:41 Please can you check these pages with Chromium:
https://www.unicode.org/Public/emoji/latest/emoji-test.txt
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Unicode/Character_reference/1F000-1FFFF

You're on a different train of thought.
UCyborg and I have a history of discussing Chrome fonts so we just picked up where we last left off (I add this part to not end in a preposition).
We're talking about how "thin and faded" some fonts are on Chrome, we're not talking about fonts that cannot render.

Here is a 2x zoom-in *without* my font fixes:

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Here is a 2x zoom-in *with* my font fixes:

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no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 14:12:14 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 14:05 You're on a different train of thought.
We're talking about how "thin and faded" some fonts are on Chrome, we're not talking about fonts that cannot render.

Yes, I know. I just jumped on the train because it reminded me about Chromium having troubles to display some emojis, at least on Windows 8.1.
So I just want to know how it behaves for you on Windows 10, if possible.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 14:22:02 +0000

Well, on the unicode.org emoji test, the best way to "quantify" is a ctrl-f search and let it count the results.

fully-qualified = 3,948 with 3 being in the top paragraph and not really within the font subgroups
minimally-qualified = 1,033 with 3 being in top paragraph
unqualified = 247 with 3 being in top paragraph

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 14:24:46 +0000

That second web site has no way for me to report a quantified result.
Aside from me manually counting "squares" representing an un-rendered font (which I'm not going to count, sorry).

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 14:35:50 +0000

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:55 416 to 407 is small enough that it could just be run variance. The +- is literally 39.

While statistically true, I DISAGREE, v149 just got SLOWER and SLOWER with each nighly build.

Here's why I *DISAGREE*.
Multiple runs "cluster" and statistically indicate an accurate clustering.
In gun-shooting speak, the scores hit the nose each and every time, none of the bullets hit the chin, forehead, or ears.
A very tight CLUSTERING.

I'll redownload and test again. But again, the clustering is all on the NOSE.
That run variance is NOT what you think it is.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 15:22:31 +0000

This is going to be my last run (at least for today).
I kind of have to feel like you are "making excuses" for v149, sorry, that's just how it sounds TO ME, lol.

Jan 12 v149 multiple Speedometer 2.1 scoring
1) 448 +/- 18
2) 457 +/- 7.1
3) 453 +/- 14
4) 455 +/- 14
5) 452 +/- 11
AVERAGE: 453

Feb 2 v149 multiple Speedometer 2.1 scoring
1) 448 +/- 23
2) 457 +/- 8.1
3) 448 +/- 7.2
4) 454 +/- 12
5) 444 +/- 12
AVERAGE: 450.5

Feb 23 v149 multiple Speedometer 2.1 scoring
1) 446 +/- 21
2) 450 +/- 8.9
3) 451 +/- 12
4) 448 +/- 10
5) 441 +/- 15
AVERAGE: 447.2

Q.E.D.
v149 just got slower and slower and slower with each nightly.
Sure, not "night and day" speed differences, but slower is slower is slower is slower.
If you want a "faster 'fox", STICK WITH v148 !!!

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 15:43:22 +0000

Disregard on v148 being faster. I'm not seeing that to be honest.
But this is also taking up way too much time.
I would have to do further studies, but it seems to me that the NIGHTLY v148 is SLOWER than the STABLE v148.

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no_email@example.com (the_r3dacted) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 15:48:40 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 15:22 This is going to be my last run (at least for today).
I kind of have to feel like you are "making excuses" for v149, sorry, that's just how it sounds TO ME, lol.

I think I was thinking at this the way I do browser issues, in that it either works or it doesn't. In which there is one specific last version where a given thing works, and one first version with it doesn't. I guess that is not the case for issues like this idk.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 15:58:04 +0000

Maybe (just MAYBE!), I may have been biased by the original A.I. query.

That *and* another poster cited the same, that he noticed a speed DOWNGRADE:

DoNotThrowOldPCsAway wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 15:14 Anyone else noticed how fast version 148 was only for the whole speed improvement to go away in 149?

Repost of A.I. query:

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 16:07:30 +0000

Oops! My v148 test still had a v149 still running. This would have clearly skewed the result.
At any rate, not testing more for now. Got real life to attend to, lol.

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no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 16:50:16 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 14:22 Well, on the unicode.org emoji test, the best way to "quantify" is a ctrl-f search and let it count the results.
fully-qualified
minimally-qualified
unqualified

This is about the Unicode codes that are being used. They have evolved over time. Some old codes are now unqualified and replaced by new ones.
But that doesn't tell me which emojis are displayed and which are not.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 14:24 That second web site has no way for me to report a quantified result.
Aside from me manually counting "squares" representing an un-rendered font (which I'm not going to count, sorry).

I'm not asking you to count one by one. But in both pages emojis are sorted by sections or subgroups.
Just tell me which of these subgroups are displaying squares instead of emojis. Or make screen captures if you can.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:02:25 +0000

Seems like a sh#tload to screencap.
And the first "video cap" exceeded the attachment size.
I'll see what I can do... But holy h#ll, how would you screencap this sh#t?

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 17:18:17 +0000

You'll get no screencaps from me.
That first emoji test page is ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY "pages"
Screencap #1. Page down. Screencap #2. Page down. Sorry, but F Dat.

I can capture as a scrolling video, but I get an "http error" from Board.Eclipse when trying to attach. So again, F Dat.

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no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 19:20:11 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 17:02 how would you screencap this sh#t?

Sorry, I thought Chromium had a built-in screenshot tool like Firefox has.
You can use free third party tools which can capture scrolling windows:
PicPick: https://picpick.app/en/download
ShareX: https://github.com/ShareX/ShareX/releases

A portable version is available for both of them.
And to reduce file size save as JPG rather than PNG.

Or maybe you can print as PDF ? If available in Chromium, because Firefox also has this feature. But it may create larger files than JPG images.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 20:01:00 +0000

I'm not playing this GAME.
Chromium has those features also! I have *ZERO* interest in the output, therefore *ZERO* interest in spending *MORE TIME* for this request.

I already use a portable third-party capture for scrolling windows, but it narrowed the width and truncated 80% or so of the screen.
No d@mn clue why. No d@mn need to replace a third-party tool that has worked for EVERYTHING else I've ever needed to capture, pic and video.

Sorry, you are going to have to find somebody else to "do your dirty work".
I have lost any and all interest at this point. If I get bored, and I mean *VERY* bored, I may revisit - but you are better off "finding somebody else".

Besides, emoji's and use thereof is for TEENAGE GIRLS and their PHONE apps. NOT for adults. Just my opinion, of course.
A smiley face or frowny face, a shoulder shrug or thumbs up emoji, sure, adults can use those.

But only a TEENAGE GIRL is going to be PSYCHOLOGICALLY IMPAIRED if a couple dozen out of three or four THOUSAND emoji's don't render.

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no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 19:51:18 +0000

For the record, that 4 GB laptop isn't mine, I just set it up at some point for a family member and I don't really have a reason to use it normally, I just happened to used it once in recent times to look something up. Who knows, maybe an old crooked Firefox profile, maybe Windows running for too long and getting crapped...that one does get crazy uptimes. I get by fine with 6 GB on my desktop.

That water company issue is really only in combination with two extensions that I do use. And generally, I don't find local websites to be particularly demanding of features they want. I already minimize the use of the internet and really only regularly lurk on few forums. But few random sites still make the cut, Gmail, GitHub, YouTube...some of the local online shops...

I don't really feel like changing the browser at this point, I just find it to be unnecessary source of additional stress. Unless if the potential replacement is a significant upgrade without additional compromises.

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no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 20:32:48 +0000

So CustomCSSforFx project has come to an end as well. And https://github.com/xiaoxiaoflood/firefox-scripts earlier.

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no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 23:18:07 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:18
the_r3dacted wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 13:06
The-10-Pen wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 23:41 And H#LL YEAH, CNN *and* Fox! When I tell you I am "purple" and a "centrist", I really am.
I HATE THE "EXTREMISTS" ON BOTH SIDES !!!
Corporate controlled opposition *and* literally argued in court that they were not news and just entertainment, and argued that no sane person would take them seriously. You could do a lot better.
AGREED !!!
There is NO SUCH THING as "televised NEWS" here in the USA.
All we have is "commentators", NOT "journalists".
That goes for Fox, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, *ALL OF THEM*, nothing but COMMENTATORS.
"Journalism" is DEAD.
All we can really do here in the USA is listen to COMMENTS from both sides and THINK FOR YOURSELF (a lost art here in the USA!).

Same here in the UK. In both cases, it's debatable if we ever truly had it. There's a reason (South East) England and the USA are the most hated countries worldwide, and I'm not counting a certain place in this.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 23:37:36 +0000

It wasn't nearly as bad way way WAY back in the day when there was no such thing as a "news channel".

ie, today's "news channels" are 24/7 instead of back in the day where you had "news" for ONE HOUR in the morning then again for ONE HOUR in the evening.

When the "media" only had to cover NEWS for TWO HOURS per day they covered actual NEWS instead of "commentators".

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 00:02:40 +0000

I guess I should also add that I get news/commentators from a few dozen sources.
That Fox and CNN screencap just happened to be that instance in time, that time of day.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 02:56:24 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 19:43 find somebody else to "do your dirty work".

No dirty work, I just want to make comparisons with the results I got.
But thanks anyway.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 19:43 emoji's and use thereof is for TEENAGE GIRLS and their PHONE apps. NOT for adults.

I'm talking about the technical aspect of things. Why does it work in this case but not in this other case, that's what I'm trying to understand.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 09:53:28 +0000

It's pretty much already "common knowledge" that Firefox's TeenMoji (my word, not theirs) offers better emoji support than Chromium.
You can regard this as a "pro", I shall regard it as a "con".
I prefer my fonts to be "standardized" - it it ain't part of my OS, then my browser *can't* use it!
I actually do that *intentionally* - some of the sub-pixel anti-alias BS fonts *literally* (not "figuratively", but LITERALLY) give me MIGRAINES.

General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 10:31:43 +0000

I want to see/witness YOU jump through all of the F'in Hoops to screencap that emoji test txt BS page (your first link) !!!
I REALLY do not think you fully fathom the extents of your "simple request".

Again, that F'in page is ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY "pages" in length.
Based on "Page Downs" on the scroll bar to get to the bottom. ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY PAGES !!!

My scrolling window capture narrows the page and truncates the right and left and only caps a narrow band down the center.
I suspect CSS table declaration because I can widen the capture by changing CSS on that page.
Time to update my third-party tool? Possible. But this has been the ONLY issue EVER encountered. So no, not updating because of an OUTLIER.

I capture as a video and it exceeds 10MB attachment restriction.
I can scroll rapidly and force it all into 25 seconds and come in below the attachment restriction.
But then Board.Eclipse throws a d@mn error if trying to attach.
So I .zip it. Still get the d@mn error.
So I .7z it. Still get the d@mn error.

I get P*SS#D OFF and delete the .mp4, and the .zip, and the .7z - "your problem, not mine".

You won't "let it die" (my view) so I go the .pdf route today.
24.9 MB (25,563 KB) file size to capture those d@mn ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY PAGES.
Compress it to a .7z and it's only 7.03 MB (7,206 KB) but I ran into a brick F'in wall the last time I tried to attach a .7z (so not even gonna try today).
Doing the same thing twice but expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.
I have to think that you are the insane one here, not me. (see, adults can use smiley emoji's)

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General Software & Hardware :: (Tangent alert) Why does modern Firefox suck so much? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 10:43:01 +0000

On second though, I DO NOT CARE if you jump through the hoops and successfully capture or not.
This is not a "competition". I am not technically-challenged and am not computer-illiterate. And neither are you.
Even if you do "successfully" capture and attach, THAT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT MY ABILITIES.
It MIGHT speak towards your transparency in declaring this "not as simple" as your "simple request" makes it sound.

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Mon, 23 Mar 2026 20:52:10 +0000

Firefox 115.34 ESR is out:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.34.0esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.34.0/releasenotes/

Browsers :: Extended support for Firefox 115 ESR :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Tue, 07 Apr 2026 16:46:23 +0000

Firefox 115.34.1 ESR has been released:
https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/115.34.1esr/

Release notes:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/115.34.1/releasenotes/

Browsers :: AI coming into Firefox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Wed, 08 Apr 2026 19:19:57 +0000

AI was just in the news (okay, it is *ALWAYS* in the news, lol).
A new AI technology called "Ghost Murmur" that can detect a human heartbeat from up to 40 *MILES* away !!!

Browsers :: AI coming into Firefox :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Wed, 08 Apr 2026 21:39:56 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 19:19 AI was just in the news (okay, it is *ALWAYS* in the news, lol).
A new AI technology called "Ghost Murmur" that can detect a human heartbeat from up to 40 *MILES* away !!!

WHAT??? That has to be an article from The Onion.

PLEASE, PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCE WHEN SAYING STUFF LIKE THIS??? PLEASE???

Browsers :: AI coming into Firefox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Wed, 08 Apr 2026 22:33:21 +0000

OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 21:39 PLEASE, PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCE WHEN SAYING STUFF LIKE THIS??? PLEASE???

NO !!!

You have a keyboard and internet access, I'm not here to hold your hand!
I presented an "idea" for you to follow through with on your own accord.
I'm not here to hold your hand!

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Browsers :: AI coming into Firefox :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Thu, 09 Apr 2026 02:56:02 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 22:33 NO !!!

Yes. Please.
When you put some statement always post your source. You found it so you post it.
Normal, elegant, useful, fair.

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 22:33 I presented an "idea" for you to follow through with on your own accord.

You didn't present an idea but a name from the news:

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 19:19 AI was just in the news (okay, it is *ALWAYS* in the news, lol).
A new AI technology called "Ghost Murmur" that can detect a human heartbeat from up to 40 *MILES* away !!!

So next time just copy/paste the link of this news article you have found.

Browsers :: AI coming into Firefox :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 09 Apr 2026 09:14:09 +0000

Again, I say:
NO !!!
It was tv news and I'm not going to "record" just for "you".

NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! GET OVER *YOURSELVES*. THIS IS *YOUR* PROBLEM, NOT MINE!

Q.E.D.

Steam :: Steam for Windows 7 and 8 (2024-11-08) :: Reply by Dustman0192

no_email@example.com (Dustman0192) — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 16:28:22 +0000

I've had success getting the latest version of Steam working on Windows 7 x64 by using VxKex. Previously, it would install but show the EOL banner at the top and I couldn't get any games to install without download corruption or file corruption or just a host of random errors. Running steam.exe under VxKex as Windows 11 eliminates the banner and I've been able to install any game I've tried.

Some games don't run (thanks to the launchers being a requirement, like Sims 4), but they will still install. Sims 3 will run if you execute it directly and don't go through the launcher. Stardew Valley also runs fine (but it also would run on a potato.)

EDIT: One other issue with modern Steam is the UI will freeze up on first start. It will just be blank. I think it has something to do with steamwebhelper but I haven't messed with it too much. Usually if you give it a few minutes it will be fine. This problem also affects shutting down Windows 7. It will cause Windows to hang until you cancel the shutdown and manually close Steam.

Windows 11 :: I have lost hope in Windows 11 :: Reply by leo

no_email@example.com (leo) — Wed, 08 Apr 2026 06:36:38 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑03 Feb 2026, 15:09
leo wrote: ↑03 Feb 2026, 07:23 IT is coming.
But this has nothing to do with Windows 11 or did I miss something ?

okay seems you didnt get it so basically it means is ai bubble is popping = shareholders no longer interested and instead move onto the next exploitable business = less "net worth" in satya nadella's pockets = the windows 11 enshittification possibly ends and, as an example copilot dies out
seems as if linux's recent exponential growth was also a factor in this since they've started restoring some stuff they decided to randomly throw out with windows 10 eg. sideways/upwards taskbar but you know we'll see

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Author lundegart

no_email@example.com (lundegart) — Mon, 23 Mar 2026 07:52:32 +0000

Hello, I have a problem with integrating r3dfoxportable as the default browser in Windows 7 Ultimate. The profile I created is located in the \r3dfoxPortable\Data\profile folder and I always opened the browser via r3dfoxPortable.exe in the \r3dfoxPortable folder (base folder). After integrating it as the standard browser, everything points to \r3dfoxPortable\App\r3dfox64 and the r3dfox.exe there is called and r3dfox even creates a new profile under \r3dfoxPortable\App\r3dfox64\Profile. Unfortunately, for example, when I open a link in Thunderbird, my profile is not opened but everything points to the newly created profile. I would be grateful for any advice or instructions on how to correctly integrate r3dfox with the desired profile.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 23 Mar 2026 12:02:18 +0000

Why are you using the PORTABLE version?
Switching to the NON-PORTABLE solves your issue.

Nothing "for or against", per se.
It just seems to me that the simple WANTING of a DEFAULT BROWSER runs *AGAINST* the true INTENTIONS of *PORTABLE* because the mere act of setting a "default" requires registry entries and folder structures COUNTER-INTUITIVE to the very nature of what "portable" strives to achieve.

If you are going to take a "portable" but then re-create what the portable removed (ie, permanent registry entries, for example), then you really should just use the "real" version and not the "portable" version.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by lundegart

no_email@example.com (lundegart) — Mon, 23 Mar 2026 17:20:21 +0000

I work with several operating systems installed in parallel and would like to be able to access the same browser from each. With Firefox Portable, it has never been a problem for many years to integrate it into several operating systems in parallel as the standard browser. Since a few of these operating systems are Windows 7, I think it would be good to continue what worked with Firefox portable with the r3dfox portable and would like to know whether and how that is possible. It behaves differently than Firefox.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Mon, 23 Mar 2026 20:08:34 +0000

Portable Registrator might do what you want:
https://github.com/SiL3NC3/PortableRegistrator

I haven't tried it. Make backups of everything (system, registry, profiles, folders, etc) before using it so you can easily go back in case of troubles. You have been warned.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 23 Mar 2026 21:45:19 +0000

I personally think we need to dig deeper than a third-party tool.
If the claim is true that r3dfox "behaves differently than Firefox" in this regard, then I think it is a FAIR QUESTION to find out WHY.
Not to be misread, r3dfox is SUPPOSED TO "behave differently" in SOME aspects, but I would submit that this is PROBABLY not one of them.

Now then, having said that, I still DISAGREE with the HACK-ATTACK to turn a PORTABLE into something that is NO LONGER PORTABLE.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 23 Mar 2026 22:08:10 +0000

On second thought, I have to disagree with myself on one MISLEADING aspect presented by the OP.
He is comparing r3dfrox portable to Firefox Portable.

MOZILLA DOES NOT OFFICIALLY RELEASE A PORTABLE FIREFOX.
Unless I missed it...

So just what are we comparing here? PortableApps.com's Firefox? winPenPack's Firefox? Something found on GitHub?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Mon, 23 Mar 2026 22:05:57 +0000

lundegart wrote: ↑23 Mar 2026, 07:52 I always opened the browser via r3dfoxPortable.exe in the \r3dfoxPortable folder (base folder).

BTW are you talking about the version from PortableApps.com ?

You should also try the official portable versions:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by lundegart

no_email@example.com (lundegart) — Tue, 24 Mar 2026 10:48:06 +0000

@ Duke: Thanks for the tip, I downloaded the version from your link and found that this “official version” has a completely different folder structure. This means that what I want works well, no more problems.
Question: I can't remember exactly, but I previously downloaded the version from PortableApps.com. Is PortableApps.com actually trustworthy and why are there so many differences from github? So thank you very much and best regards!

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Tue, 24 Mar 2026 15:42:39 +0000

lundegart wrote: ↑24 Mar 2026, 10:48 Is PortableApps.com actually trustworthy

Yes, it is.

lundegart wrote: ↑24 Mar 2026, 10:48 and why are there so many differences from github?

They are making their own builds of various portable programs using their own launcher. The binary files themselves shouldn't be different but the way the whole thing works is different. With browsers they are using both 32-bit and 64-bit versions, if availble, so the whole package is really fully portable on any Windows version.
But I don't know more about how it works, sorry.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox as default browser :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Tue, 24 Mar 2026 16:38:47 +0000

PortableApps.com apps (PAA) create their own temporary registries.
They are designed to work WITH EACH OTHER (but one of the apps has to be running).
I myself have HUNDREDS (not an exaggeration) of PAA's.
I put office-related programs on one flash drive, audio/video on another flash drive, etc.

I have to ASSUME that the OP is using a PAA THUNDERBIRD and it was designed (by way of its temporary registry) to work *with* PAA's FIREFOX *as-is*.
Only because PAA Thunderbird was RUNNING was the OP's PAA Firefox launched with a click of an email link.

These are actually quite easy to "trace".
View your registry *before* launching Thunderbird.
Then view the temporary registry entries that are created WHILE Thunderbird is running.
All of these registry entries delete themselves from the OS Registry when Thunderbird is closed.
They are stored in a folder/file within the portable Thunderbird's file structure to get "re-added" to the OS Registry at next run.
Then removed again when Thunderbird is closed.
Rinse... Repeat...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox build guide :: Reply by the_r3dacted

no_email@example.com (the_r3dacted) — Thu, 26 Mar 2026 15:00:08 +0000

Not sure where to post this. I don't think this is useful for current r3dfox, but may help with versions that end up being slightly out of support. Don't think this would work for something like building Firefox 91 though.
https://codeberg.org/librewolf/source/src/branch/main/patches/always-fetch-latest-toolchain-artifact.patch

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox build guide :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sat, 28 Mar 2026 16:11:45 +0000

Is there a way to reduce how much RAM is needed to build so it would be buildable on 6 GB of RAM?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox build guide :: Reply by the_r3dacted

no_email@example.com (the_r3dacted) — Sat, 28 Mar 2026 21:47:23 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑28 Mar 2026, 16:11 Is there a way to reduce how much RAM is needed to build so it would be buildable on 6 GB of RAM?

Don't think so. When compiling most applications, they do parallel compiling, which is building multiple components at the same time. Usually this is one job per processor thread or gigabyte of RAM, whichever is lower. This number should get automatically determined, however I just force it to 16 in the mozconfig in my case. (I should add this to the guide now that I think about it.)

Now you might think that's good and all, but confused why I said don't think so? Reason being is Firefox uses Rust and it spends like 20 minutes compiling a single Rust component, gkrust, with a single core. On top of that, it uses an absurd amount of memory to build this single part. This is where the memory requirement comes from.

Although you should be able to get away with just making a big page file and it should* just work. Will probably take a while longer to build, or maybe not idk.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox build guide :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sun, 29 Mar 2026 00:37:34 +0000

I backed out due to HDD grinding that seemingly took forever that didn't get anywhere and being worried about prolonged mechanical stress.

I thought maybe there's some tweak to reduce how much stuff is built in parallel, but yeah, seems single RUST thing wants 12+ GB RAM, so no go.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by gabriel0

no_email@example.com (gabriel0) — Tue, 24 Mar 2026 12:19:55 +0000

Hello.
I'm using win 7 with r3dfox (actual 148.0 (64-bit) because discord added some encrypted voice (E2EE ? ) calls and desktop app cant use calls anymore.
I can call, i can see mac and probably android streams, but i cant see video stream from windows (error 2012) but i can hear the sound.
Also nobody see my streams.
Checked also on another totally different pc with win7
I also tested supermium and there everything works fine. I'm feeling so bad using chrome based browser... Thats why i'm here and saying about all this stuff.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Tue, 24 Mar 2026 15:45:01 +0000

gabriel0 wrote: ↑24 Mar 2026, 12:19 Discord
I can call, i can see mac and probably android streams, but i cant see video stream from windows (error 2012) but i can hear the sound.
Also nobody see my streams.
I also tested supermium and there everything works fine. I'm feeling so bad using chrome based browser

There is a (closed) issue about that:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/135

Hopefully it will be fixed in the upcoming version 149 ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Taiclaw

no_email@example.com (Taiclaw) — Thu, 26 Mar 2026 05:44:02 +0000

LibreWolf bsys6 Release v149.0-1 exists ...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Fri, 27 Mar 2026 17:50:48 +0000

R3dfox b149.0 BETA:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/b149.0

Bear in mind it's a BETA version. So backup at least your profile, or more, before you update to b149.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sat, 28 Mar 2026 06:30:12 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑27 Mar 2026, 17:50 R3dfox b149.0 BETA:

About v149, according to this article:
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-148-149-new-features/

Version 149 is supposed to have a free built-in VPN:

A free built-in VPN is coming to Firefox.
Users will have 50 gigabytes of data monthly in the U.S., France, Germany and U.K. to start. Available in Firefox 149 starting March 24.

But I don't see it anywhere in the settings. Is it intentional ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 28 Mar 2026 16:10:59 +0000

Ugh !!!
I HATE these types of forced-upon "new features" !!!

Absolutely hate, hate, hate !!!

Tell me, is this feature able to be turned OFF ???
What happens a mere THREE TO FIVE DAYS into every "month" that my daily video streaming pushes me over the "monthly limit" ???

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

no_email@example.com (the_r3dacted) — Sat, 28 Mar 2026 21:56:06 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑28 Mar 2026, 06:30 Version 149 is supposed to have a free built-in VPN:
A free built-in VPN is coming to Firefox.
Users will have 50 gigabytes of data monthly in the U.S., France, Germany and U.K. to start. Available in Firefox 149 starting March 24.
But I don't see it anywhere in the settings. Is it intentional ?

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑28 Mar 2026, 16:10 Tell me, is this feature able to be turned OFF ???

Modern r3dfox follows most Librewolf changes, and from Librewolf, I remember disabling one or two preferences related to a Mozilla VPN, so this should just be disabled by default.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sun, 29 Mar 2026 10:41:19 +0000

Personally, speaking solely for myself and my own "safe hexing" practices that have kept me virus-free and malware-free for FORTY YEARS and the last thirty of which was outright AGAINST bottle-knecking anti-virus and anti-malware real-time scanning CRAP slowing down my machine (but have voluntarily installed them over those thirty years and discussed their performance-killing aspects on forums like this, lol, sure, there are some good ones, but few and far between and uninstalling them becomes such a nightmare at times that you are better off with a format/reinstall which is the same result you would have had if you were infected with what it was to safeguard against) and even AGAINST *self-induced* *man-in-the-middle* Tor Network EXIT POINTS, I would NEVER "trust" a VPN that is "IN BED WITH" Mozilla and all of its on-by-default telemetry and data collection mechanisms (which Chrome has also, but the end user in one versus the other has always boiled down to making yourself a needle in the haystack 2-miles high or a needle in the haystack 70-miles high).

This is nothing more than a DESPERATE play on "VPN Myths" and getting Firefox users to PAY FOR their "free" web browser.

There is no "logging or selling" of data, any Firefox user that "enables" this feature is simply HANDING OVER the data that Firefox by itself doesn't collect but WILL collect through its VPN.

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sun, 29 Mar 2026 14:48:17 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 10:41 getting Firefox users to PAY FOR their "free" web browser.

No, you don't have to pay for the browser itself but only for the full version of the Mozilla VPN.
The free version of the VPN remains free but it's limited to 50 GB a month and it requires a Mozilla account.

What is the source page of your screenshots ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sun, 29 Mar 2026 17:42:18 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 14:48 What is the source page of your screenshots ?

I didn't bookmark and I have no plans to hunt them down for you.
Perform some searches and you can find them just as easily.
Likely even believe them more because you found them yourself.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Nobody

no_email@example.com (Nobody) — Sun, 29 Mar 2026 22:47:15 +0000

But I don't see it anywhere in the settings. Is it intentional ?

You can activate the feature manually by setting via about:config the option browser.ipProtection.enabled to true .

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 00:05:18 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 17:42 I didn't bookmark and I have no plans to hunt them down for you.
Perform some searches and you can find them just as easily.

I didn't find this page
Don't you remember if it was an official Mozilla page or some other random site ?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 00:06:13 +0000

Nobody wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 22:47 You can activate the feature manually by setting via about:config the option browser.ipProtection.enabled to true .

Nice find, thanks

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 08:47:02 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 00:05 I didn't find this page

Not really my problem. Believe the content or don't believe the content. Again, not really my problem.

It was never intended to be a Doctorate Thesis where every one paragraph has six footnote references.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 16:44:59 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 08:47 Believe the content or don't believe the content.

I just want to know if it's an official source or not.
Nothing else.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 17:18:04 +0000

Yes, OFFICIAL!

DOZENS of links to "Mozilla Support". Next time I try to be helpful, I'll *FLOOD* the SHIT out of the website and screencRap all *dozens* of "Mozilla Support" snippets and footnote the Hell Out Of It.

I'm done... Stick a fork in me...

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Wed, 01 Apr 2026 20:28:27 +0000

About this issue report: https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/145

Considering Librewolf sets trr to 5, that's probably just the best course of action anyways though.

Differences between network.trr.mode values:

0 - Off (default). use standard native resolving only (don't use TRR at all)
1 - Reserved (used to be Race mode)
2 - First. Use TRR first, and only if the name resolve fails use the native resolver as a fallback.
3 - Only. Only use TRR, never use the native resolver.
4 - Reserved (used to be Shadow mode)
5 - Off by choice. This is the same as 0 but marks it as done by choice and not done by default.

Source page:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Trusted_Recursive_Resolver

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Wed, 01 Apr 2026 20:31:55 +0000

About this issue report: https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/146

FYI Windows_NT 5.2 3790 is Windows Server 2003, not XP:
https://betawiki.net/wiki/Windows_Server_2003_build_3790

Almost the same from the R3dfox point of view anyway.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Tue, 07 Apr 2026 00:20:01 +0000

R3dfox v149.0.2 has been released:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v149.0.2

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Tue, 07 Apr 2026 20:58:59 +0000

R3dfox v149.0.2: hardware acceleration option is gone ?

It should be like this:

R3dfox-HardwareAcceleration.png

But it's missing with v149.0.2 on Windows 8.1 x64:

R3dfox-NoHardwareAcceleration.png

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

no_email@example.com (the_r3dacted) — Wed, 08 Apr 2026 03:06:27 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑07 Apr 2026, 20:58 R3dfox v149.0.2: hardware acceleration option is gone ?

It should be like this:

R3dfox-HardwareAcceleration.png

But it's missing with v149.0.2 on Windows 8.1 x64:

R3dfox-NoHardwareAcceleration.png

You get the hardware acceleration tickbox if you disable use recommended settings. That's how it's worked for ages.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Wed, 08 Apr 2026 10:13:02 +0000

the_r3dacted wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 03:06 You get the hardware acceleration tickbox if you disable use recommended settings. That's how it's worked for ages.

OK, my bad.
However, I've noticed that some settings have been changed after updating from v149 beta to v149.0.2 like the warning before opening about:config, network.captive-portal-service.enabled or Safe Browsing.
Very annoying.

I don't like that at all and I wonder which other settings have been forced to a change

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Wed, 08 Apr 2026 13:32:26 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 10:13 I've noticed that some settings have been changed after updating from v149 beta to v149.0.2 like the warning before opening about:config, network.captive-portal-service.enabled or Safe Browsing.
Very annoying.

On top of that I've just noticed that R3dfox keeps on connecting to detectportal.firefox.com every time I open a new window (Ctrl+N) even though network.captive-portal-service.enabled is set to false.
This never ever happened with previous versions, not even with v149 beta

Correction:
It was there in v149 beta but not in v148.0.2 and previous versions.
I always backup before updating and I've just checked all of these versions.

Update:
Even worse, I have removed the http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html URL from captivedetect.canonicalURL setting and it still connects to detectportal.firefox.com !
WTH is going on ?

R3dfox-CaptivePortal.png

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Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by eclstedt

no_email@example.com (eclstedt) — Wed, 08 Apr 2026 18:41:45 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑07 Apr 2026, 00:20 R3dfox v149.0.2 has been released:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v149.0.2

Thanks! Waiting for an ESR release. Will there be updated ESR releases?

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Wed, 08 Apr 2026 19:15:31 +0000

eclstedt wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 18:41 Waiting for an ESR release. Will there be updated ESR releases?

the_r3dacted said: "Maybe". There:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/150#issuecomment-4203476476

I don't know what I'm going to do. Maybe I'll work on 140.9 ESR which will mirror a lot of changes from 149.0.2 since I'm rebuilding it.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Thu, 09 Apr 2026 19:40:33 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 13:32
Duke wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 10:13 I've noticed that some settings have been changed after updating from v149 beta to v149.0.2 like the warning before opening about:config, network.captive-portal-service.enabled or Safe Browsing.
Very annoying.
On top of that I've just noticed that R3dfox keeps on connecting to detectportal.firefox.com every time I open a new window (Ctrl+N) even though network.captive-portal-service.enabled is set to false.
This never ever happened with previous versions, not even with v149 beta

Correction:
It was there in v149 beta but not in v148.0.2 and previous versions.
I always backup before updating and I've just checked all of these versions.

Update:
Even worse, I have removed the http://detectportal.firefox.com/canonical.html URL from captivedetect.canonicalURL setting and it still connects to detectportal.firefox.com !
WTH is going on ?

I had to set network.connectivity-service.enabled to false.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by GoodConscience

no_email@example.com (GoodConscience) — Thu, 09 Apr 2026 20:41:38 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑09 Apr 2026, 19:40 I had to set network.connectivity-service.enabled to false.

https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/networking/connectivity_checking.html

The NetworkConnectivityService will periodically connect to the same URL we use for captive portal detection, but will restrict its preferences to either IPv4 or IPv6.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Nobody

no_email@example.com (Nobody) — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 23:30:29 +0000

Hello
Here is information about an error that has not occurred before.
On Windows 7, 32-bit, I tried to update from version 147.0.1 to 149.0.2. It didn't work. I got the error message:
"r3dfox has stopped working. A problem prevented this program from running correctly. Close the program."
The cause of the error was the following setting in user.js: "dom.enable_resource_timing", false.
After removing this entry, the update was successful.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 21:07:37 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 19:15
eclstedt wrote: ↑08 Apr 2026, 18:41 Waiting for an ESR release. Will there be updated ESR releases?
the_r3dacted said: "Maybe". There:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/150#issuecomment-4203476476

I don't know what I'm going to do. Maybe I'll work on 140.9 ESR which will mirror a lot of changes from 149.0.2 since I'm rebuilding it.

Well, it looks like there won't be a v140.9 ESR but a v140.10 ESR:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/issues/150#issuecomment-4252984990

the-r3dacted wrote:I think I'm just going to skip 140.9. Running into issues with the patches. Will just wait for 140.10 patches.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 10:32:19 +0000

R3dfox 150.0BETA10:
https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v150.0b10

Bear in mind it's a BETA version. So backup at least your profile, or more, before you update to v150 beta.

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by jassenna

no_email@example.com (jassenna) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 18:41:40 +0000

Duke said:
| 2. about:profiles should work, pay attention to the destination folder path.
| -Profile "profile name" can work too.

the_r3dacted said:
| Since you're using the portable version, it basically just passes
| -profile Profile to the exe and therefore makes a "Profile" folder
| in the portable browser directory with your profile.
| If about:profiles is broken here, it's because it's being overridden here.
| If you go into (r3dfox folder)\browser, you'll find a pmundprt.mod file,
| and this controls that behavior.
| Deleting it will revert it to stock operation with a profile in Appdata.

1) Is it possible set the profiles folder r3dfox folder ?
I am using the portable version, and would like to have all of r3dfox in
one folder.
2) Is it possible to set a profile folder in the r3dfox folder as default ?
I want to be able to start r3dfox without using a command line, with the
profiles in the r3dfox folder.
I am not asking for a bespoke build of r3dfox; I want to know whether I can
configure r3dfox this way.
Thanks

Eclipse r3dfox browser :: r3dfox, a modern Firefox based web browser for Windows Vista, 7, and 8! :: Reply by the_r3dacted

no_email@example.com (the_r3dacted) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 18:58:43 +0000

jassenna wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 18:41 1) Is it possible set the profiles folder r3dfox folder ?
I am using the portable version, and would like to have all of r3dfox in
one folder.
2) Is it possible to set a profile folder in the r3dfox folder as default ?
I want to be able to start r3dfox without using a command line, with the
profiles in the r3dfox folder.
I am not asking for a bespoke build of r3dfox; I want to know whether I can
configure r3dfox this way.
Thanks

I'm pretty sure the portable mode already works like that.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent UXP 2026 icon too small :: Author cicyyang

no_email@example.com (cicyyang) — Wed, 25 Mar 2026 02:17:27 +0000

basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260314-3219d2d-uxp-5b447a5fd9-xpmod
The icon in the top-right corner of the software is too small, making it very inconvenient to use.

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RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent UXP 2026 icon too small :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Wed, 25 Mar 2026 14:07:34 +0000

I cannot replicate on "normal" versions of XP, 7, and 10.
Are you using any kind of "theme hacks" not *officially* part of your OS (which you didn't even mention "is", btw)?

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent 52 / 55 Language Pack (Portuguese Brazil) :: Author BAVBR

no_email@example.com (BAVBR) — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 01:42:24 +0000

I've known about the Roytam1 project for years and it always bothered me that both the official Basilisk and Serpent 52/ 55 browsers don't have a language pack.

Thanks to the project of developer Enobarbous, who managed to create a Russian language package for the official Basilisk, I decided to build on it and create a version for my native language, Brazilian Portuguese, and the result can be seen in this link [url]https://github.com/bav-br/basilisk-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/2026.01.23[/url].

Based on this, I decided to adapt the package to also work on Serpent 52, which already had a translation released on this forum by user cicyyang but bothered me because it was very invasive and had to update with each new release. And, for those who want to download for use or adapt to your language, click here: [url]https://github.com/bav-br/basilisk-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/2026.04.10[/url].

Similarly, I'm also making a package available for Serpent 55, which can be accessed here: [url]https://github.com/bav-br/basilisk-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/2026.04.03[/url].

Please note: If you have any problems after installing the language pack, please let me know. The amount of work involved in reconciling the lines was great, and although extensive and strenuous revision (file by file) was performed, errors may have been made somewhere.

Extra: Based on the fixes indicated by user Astroskeeper[url]https://msfn.org/board/topic/183923-extensions-and-custom-buttons-for-uxp-browsers-corrections-modifications-adjustments-and-special-recommendations/#comment-1226244[/url], I reviewed the New Moon 28 PT-BR language pack (originally posted by developer JustOff) and can be accessed by clicking here: [url]https://www.4shared.com/file/SjcESZ-qku/pt-BR_28100_RC7.html?[/url].

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent 52 / 55 Language Pack (Portuguese Brazil) :: Reply by Iffy-chan

no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 07:00:09 +0000

Nice job creating a localisation! Out of curiosity, is the localisation system of the UXP-based browser engine at all similar to earlier versions of Firefox's (key versions to look at would be 24, 38 and 52 as PM team based their code on these versions at some point or another in time), or are there significant differences that would make it nontrivial to port the localisation of one to the other?

[/url], I reviewed the New Moon 28 PT-BR language pack (originally posted by developer JustOff) and can be accessed by clicking here: https://www.4shared.com/file/SjcESZ-qku/pt-BR_28100_RC7.html?.

Would you mind using a different file host? If I recall, 4Shared enforces logging in, which is counterproductive to the values of this message board.

Also, don't be afraid to include a translation of your first post in Portuguese-BR - in this specific case, I'm fairly certain it should be okay to bypass the English-language rules of the forum. (It'll help local search engine results pick up this post/thread for what it's worth.)

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent 52 / 55 Language Pack (Portuguese Brazil) :: Reply by BAVBR

no_email@example.com (BAVBR) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 23:39:27 +0000

Iffy-chan wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 07:00 Nice job creating a localisation! Out of curiosity, is the localisation system of the UXP-based browser engine at all similar to earlier versions of Firefox's (key versions to look at would be 24, 38 and 52 as PM team based their code on these versions at some point or another in time), or are there significant differences that would make it nontrivial to port the localisation of one to the other?

[/url], I reviewed the New Moon 28 PT-BR language pack (originally posted by developer JustOff) and can be accessed by clicking here: https://www.4shared.com/file/SjcESZ-qku/pt-BR_28100_RC7.html?.
Would you mind using a different file host? If I recall, 4Shared enforces logging in, which is counterproductive to the values of this message board.

Also, don't be afraid to include a translation of your first post in Portuguese-BR - in this specific case, I'm fairly certain it should be okay to bypass the English-language rules of the forum. (It'll help local search engine results pick up this post/thread for what it's worth.)

In fact, in the case of Basilisk and Serpent 52, it is very similar to Firefox 52, just with removed features and some specific additions, such as exclusive features and tags, however it can still be difficult to translate directly from the Firefox language pack; then I recommend using what I did as a base, especially for Serpent 55, which is a mix of Firefox 52 / 55 with Pale Moon, which made it particularly challenging and required many hours of work, as I did a thorough analysis, file by file (which can be difficult, in addition to many tests and corrections until reaching the final version).

As I didn't follow programming best practices and did everything manually, I am unable to point out what changed in detail, as my objective was to complete the translation and I know that this does not help much for anyone who wants to do this work; Before I had tried to automate with Claude Code but the free plan is limited and it didn't work, but whoever can automate it is a better way than what I did and could reduce the approximately 8 net hours for each package to about 30 minutes.

About New Moon, I created a release in the Basilisk repository itself: https://github.com/bav-br/basilisk-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/2024.10.06

I'm just an enthusiast, I'm learning english yet and I don't consider myself a developer, although I have a degree in systems analysis and I intend to make a post in Brazilian Portuguese on my blog.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Serpent 52 / 55 Language Pack (Portuguese Brazil) :: Reply by Iffy-chan

no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 02:16:16 +0000

BAVBR wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 23:39
Iffy-chan wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 07:00 Nice job creating a localisation! Out of curiosity, is the localisation system of the UXP-based browser engine at all similar to earlier versions of Firefox's (key versions to look at would be 24, 38 and 52 as PM team based their code on these versions at some point or another in time), or are there significant differences that would make it nontrivial to port the localisation of one to the other?

[/url], I reviewed the New Moon 28 PT-BR language pack (originally posted by developer JustOff) and can be accessed by clicking here: https://www.4shared.com/file/SjcESZ-qku/pt-BR_28100_RC7.html?.
Would you mind using a different file host? If I recall, 4Shared enforces logging in, which is counterproductive to the values of this message board.

Also, don't be afraid to include a translation of your first post in Portuguese-BR - in this specific case, I'm fairly certain it should be okay to bypass the English-language rules of the forum. (It'll help local search engine results pick up this post/thread for what it's worth.)
In fact, in the case of Basilisk and Serpent 52, it is very similar to Firefox 52, just with removed features and some specific additions, such as exclusive features and tags, however it can still be difficult to translate directly from the Firefox language pack; then I recommend using what I did as a base, especially for Serpent 55, which is a mix of Firefox 52 / 55 with Pale Moon, which made it particularly challenging and required many hours of work, as I did a thorough analysis, file by file (which can be difficult, in addition to many tests and corrections until reaching the final version).

As I didn't follow programming best practices and did everything manually, I am unable to point out what changed in detail, as my objective was to complete the translation and I know that this does not help much for anyone who wants to do this work; Before I had tried to automate with Claude Code but the free plan is limited and it didn't work, but whoever can automate it is a better way than what I did and could reduce the approximately 8 net hours for each package to about 30 minutes.

About New Moon, I created a release in the Basilisk repository itself: https://github.com/bav-br/basilisk-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/2024.10.06

Thank you for the rundown, I appreciate it. Very interesting.

It's not a problem that you can't point to everything that was changed/removed/added, it's helpful enough to know that it's not going to be an especially 'quick-and-dirty copy-paste' job, but there are indeed many similarities with these builds of FF/PM/Basilisk

BAVBR wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 23:39 I'm just an enthusiast, I'm learning english yet and I don't consider myself a developer, although I have a degree in systems analysis and I intend to make a post in Brazilian Portuguese on my blog.

There's a few small mistakes in your writing, but nothing that really stuck out to me as particularly annoying. I'd say you tend to overuse conjunctions where a full stop would probably be more appropriate, which makes some of it a bit difficult to follow at times.

Also, appropriate music to post for this thread, even if it's from a mobile game.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 20 Mar 2026 22:48:05 +0000

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260321-3219d2d-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260321-3219d2d-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260321-3219d2d-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260321-d849524bd-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260321-d849524bd-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260321-d849524bd-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260321-d849524bd-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260321-d849524bd-uxp-e1ab6d5746-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2987 - Part 1: Add `AnalyserNode` constructor. (f372f32492)
- Issue #2987 - Part 2: Add `AudioBufferSourceNode` constructor. (0cbf609b3f)
- Issue #2987 - Part 3: Add `GainNode` constructor. (c4fa2c5c6f)
- Issue #2987 - Part 4: Add `DelayNode` constructor. (778db35c34)
- Issue #2987 - Part 5: Add `BiQuadFilterNode` constructor. (5b7efa6c93)
- Issue #2987 - Part 6: Add `IIRFilterNode` constructor. (37f7e56e78)
- Issue #2987 - Part 7: Add `WaveShaperNode` constructor. (5c1996d7f2)
- Issue #2987 - Part 8: Add `PannerNode` constructor. (dc27c4a81d)
- Issue #2987 - Part 9: Add `StereoPannerNode` constructor. (5803d8b571)
- Issue #2987 - Part 10: Add `ConvolverNode` constructor. (a11a979b3b)
- Issue #2987 - Part 11: Add `ChannelSplitterNode` constructor. (6894c6849a)
- Issue #2987 - Part 12: Add `ChannelMergerNode` constructor. (abd12bc195)
- Issue #2987 - Part 13: Add `DynamicsCompressorNode` constructor. (f07c3b501e)
- Issue #2987 - Part 14: Add `OscillatorNode` constructor. (304f413c06)
- Issue #2987 - Part 15: Add `PeriodicWave` constructor. (b097097e28)
- Issue #2987 - Part 16: Add `AudioBuffer` constructor. (c86e080a0c)
- Issue #2987 - Part 17: Add `MediaElementAudioSourceNode` constructor. (e9474a5dc0)
- Issue #2987 - Part 18: Add `MediaStreamAudioSourceNode` constructor. (6456244887)
- Issue #2987 - Part 19: Add `MediaStreamAudioDestinationNode` constructor. (5cb44135d1)
- Issue #2997 - Update expat source to 2.7.4 and apply local patches. (c31f629aee)
- Issue #2862 - Initial attempt at a css lowering (ce4b9975db)
- Issue #2862 - add initial nested css test file (fc09c7cb34)
- Issue #2862 - Modify the css lowerer so that the lowering pass now recognizes bare type-selector nested rules and combinator-led cases (34f9837649)
- Issue #2862 - Fix a few nested selectors (d37e667f9a)
- Issue #2862 - Split the css lowering functionality out to a separate file for easier maintenance (d9b66581ac)
- Issue #2862 - more tests files for nested css (3f299e8f2b)
- Issue #2862 - handle more edge cases in css lowering (6d9547c688)
- Issue #2862 - Change code references from CSS lowering to CSS flattening (a6356fff88)
- Issue #2862 - Change tests from lowering to flattening (ac4c7bca08)
- Issue #2862 - Remove unused vars in CSS flattener (72cb599848)
- Issue #2862 - css nesting pref true by default (ea86d15635)
- Issue #3001 - Restore table reference frame call. (e5e86a8124)
- Issue #2229 - Follow-up: Don't attempt on-stack replacement for TLA modules (11b0b680e1)
- Issue #2551 - implement array.prototype.with (d5566bbb0f)
- Issue #2551 - implement array.prototype.toSpliced (7209aaa021)
- Issue #2897 followup - Do not hardcode jemalloc page size on LoongArch (2aec1ada9e)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 20 Mar 2026 22:48:13 +0000

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260321-40a79c75-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260321-40a79c75-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260321-id-656ea98-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260321-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-e1ab6d5746-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

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no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 20 Mar 2026 22:48:21 +0000

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no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 27 Mar 2026 23:06:49 +0000

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260328-3219d2d-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260328-3219d2d-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260328-3219d2d-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260328-d849524bd-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260328-d849524bd-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260328-d849524bd-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260328-d849524bd-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260328-d849524bd-uxp-956cd0a5cc-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Cloudflare Image Resizing fix (c8460ae3e7)
- Issue #3016 - allow url.CanParse to use custom-scheme bases to match current spec (a704425358)
- Issue #2551 - implement TypedArray.prototype.with (3d131186be)
- Issue #3011 - Part 1: Add As{Text|Html}Editor() and AsEditorBase() (2f20100059)
- Issue #3011 - Part 2: Switch spellchecker root to Shadow DOM. (e701dad7ef)
- Issue #3011 - Part 3: Handle edge case for spellchecking. (964a72079a)
- Issue #3020 - document.currentScript should be null in modules (94ffd74cab)
- Issue #3020 - Update `currentScript` when dealing with shadow DOM. (eee99b32cc)
- Issue #3020 - Clear currentScript after running microtasks (fdee9737a8)
- Issue #2548 - Part 1 - Implement MathML DOM and pre-requisites. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1571487 Introduce interface mixins. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1414372 Switch XPathEvaluator to using IDL mixins and remaining users of IDL "implements" over to mixin syntax. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1574195 Introduce GlobalEventHandlers/DocumentAndElementEventHandlers/ElementCSSInlineStyle mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579457 Introduce DocumentAndElementEventHandlers to more closely align with the HTML spec. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1330457 Remove the use of IsCallerChrome in FetchRequest. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1335368 (85600c7378)
- Issue #2548 - Part 2 - Collection of WebIDL parsing updates in an attempt to fix partial interface mixin error. We should ensure, at build-time, that partial interfaces are defined in the same file as the interface they extend. Since our build system doesn't really support correct dep builds if they're placed in a different file. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1333117 WebIDL: Better error message for trying to inherit from a mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575384 Fix webidl identifier conflicts involving typedefs to produce saner exceptions. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1531623 Disallow nullable types for WebIDL constants. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1535647 Add support for extended attributes on types in Web IDL https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1359269 Allow LenientFloat to be only in a specific overload https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1020975 (81b4f0c352)
- Issue #2548 - Part 3 - Fix some MathML issues encountered since WebIDL works. Add an nsContentUtils API for getting the CallerType of a JSContext. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1316616 Also added a Fetch() change that was not in the Mozilla patch. (20354b672f)
- Issue #2548 - Part 4 - Fix some missed changes for ElementCSSInlineStyle. Introduce GlobalEventHandlers/DocumentAndElementEventHandlers/ElementCSSInlineStyle mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579457 (502c704770)
- Issue #2548 - Part 5 - Implement the HTMLOrForeignElement mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577660 Add 'preventScroll' option to HTMLElement's, SVGElement's and XULElement's 'focus' method. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1374045 (3febe21f99)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

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no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 27 Mar 2026 23:06:58 +0000

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260328-40a79c75-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260328-40a79c75-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260328-id-656ea98-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260328-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-956cd0a5cc-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

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no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 27 Mar 2026 23:07:08 +0000

New build of post-deprecated Serpent/moebius for XP!
* Notice: This repo will not be built on regular schedule, and changes are experimental as usual.
** Current moebius patch level should be on par with 52.9, but some security patches can not be applied/ported due to source milestone differences between versions.

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win32-git-20260328-eb31645dc-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk55-win64-git-20260328-eb31645dc-xpmod.7z

repo: https://github.com/roytam1/basilisk55

Repo changes:
- ported from UXP: Cloudflare Image Resizing fix (c8460ae3) (2d69b6c88)
- ported from UXP: Issue #3016 - allow url.CanParse to use custom-scheme bases to match current spec (a7044253) (0fd3dc434)
- ported from UXP: Issue #2551 - implement TypedArray.prototype.with (3d131186) (1b04d4b0b)
- ported from UXP: Issue #3011 - Part 1: Add As{Text|Html}Editor() and AsEditorBase() (2f201000) (76bf4dc35)
- ported from UXP: Issue #3011 - Part 2: Switch spellchecker root to Shadow DOM. (e701dad7) (984b6e3c3)
- import from UXP: Issue #3011 - Part 3: Handle edge case for spellchecking. (964a7207) (bbe59f5fe)
- import from UXP: Issue #3020 - document.currentScript should be null in modules (94ffd74c) (fc00851a7)
- import from UXP: Issue #3020 - Update `currentScript` when dealing with shadow DOM. (eee99b32) (0db6bb4b5)
- import from UXP: Issue #3020 - Clear currentScript after running microtasks (fdee9737) (c7997448b)
- ported from UXP:
- Issue #2548 - Part 1 - Implement MathML DOM and pre-requisites. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1571487 Introduce interface mixins. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1414372 Switch XPathEvaluator to using IDL mixins and remaining users of IDL "implements" over to mixin syntax. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1574195 Introduce GlobalEventHandlers/DocumentAndElementEventHandlers/ElementCSSInlineStyle mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1579457 Introduce DocumentAndElementEventHandlers to more closely align with the HTML spec. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1330457 Remove the use of IsCallerChrome in FetchRequest. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1335368 (85600c73)
- Issue #2548 - Part 2 - Collection of WebIDL parsing updates in an attempt to fix partial interface mixin error. We should ensure, at build-time, that partial interfaces are defined in the same file as the interface they extend. Since our build system doesn't really support correct dep builds if they're placed in a different file. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1333117 WebIDL: Better error message for trying to inherit from a mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1575384 Fix webidl identifier conflicts involving typedefs to produce saner exceptions. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1531623 Disallow nullable types for WebIDL constants. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1535647 Add support for extended attributes on types in Web IDL https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1359269 Allow LenientFloat to be only in a specific overload https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1020975 (81b4f0c3)
- Issue #2548 - Part 3 - Fix some MathML issues encountered since WebIDL works. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1316616 Also added a Fetch() change that was not in the Mozilla patch. (20354b67)
- Issue #2548 - Part 4 - Fix some missed changes for ElementCSSInlineStyle. Introduce GlobalEventHandlers/DocumentAndElementEventHandlers/ElementCSSInlineStyle mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157945 (502c7047)
- Issue #2548 - Part 5 - Implement the HTMLOrForeignElement mixin. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577660 Add 'preventScroll' option to HTMLElement's, SVGElement's and XULElement's 'focus' method. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1374045 (3febe21f) (eb31645dc)

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no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:51:05 +0000

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260404-3219d2d-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260404-3219d2d-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260404-3219d2d-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260404-d849524bd-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260404-d849524bd-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260404-d849524bd-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260404-d849524bd-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260404-d849524bd-uxp-4d6414cfd0-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #2551 - implement TypedArray.prototype.toSorted (393d890730)
- No issue - Add 10.4 and 26.* SDK versions to KNOWN_SDK_VERSIONS (45ae2d89ff)
- No issue - Add convolver sanity check (09c0393640)
- [XPCOM] Add more validation to SnappyUncompressInputStream (d323fc3012)
- [gfx] Use local statics for harfbuzz callback pointers (b96505c0e3)
- [network] Ignore non-compliant http server header. (0a5af25d60)
- [NSS] Update NSS (custom) (61c6b4c1aa)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:51:10 +0000

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260404-40a79c75-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260404-40a79c75-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260404-id-656ea98-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260404-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-4d6414cfd0-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

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no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:51:15 +0000

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 22:39:29 +0000

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260411-3219d2d-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260411-3219d2d-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260411-3219d2d-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260411-d849524bd-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260411-d849524bd-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260411-d849524bd-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260411-d849524bd-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260411-d849524bd-uxp-c8f7030b13-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #3027 - modify nsGIOService to call libdbus directly instead of using dbus-glib (c97bc33a87)
- Issue #3027 - remove all uses of dbus-glib from widget/ (6ce1b9a8c0)
- Issue #3042 - Add canvas WebGL context `powerPreference` (546e0075dd)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 22:39:36 +0000

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260411-40a79c75-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260411-40a79c75-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260411-id-656ea98-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260411-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-c8f7030b13-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

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no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 22:39:40 +0000

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 23:08:14 +0000

New build of Serpent/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260418-3219d2d-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win64-git-20260418-3219d2d-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/custom

IA32 Win32 https://o.rthost.win/basilisk/basilisk52-g4.8.win32-git-20260418-3219d2d-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod-ia32.7z

source code that is comparable to my current working tree is available here: https://github.com/roytam1/UXP/commits/ia32

NM28XP build:
Win32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260418-d849524bd-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod.7z
Win32 IA32 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260418-d849524bd-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod-ia32.7z
Win32 SSE https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win32-git-20260418-d849524bd-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod-sse.7z
Win64 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260418-d849524bd-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod.7z
Win7+ x64 AVX2 https://o.rthost.win/palemoon/palemoon-28.10.7a1.win64-git-20260418-d849524bd-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-w7plus-avx2.7z

Official UXP changes picked since my last build:
- Issue #3003 prerequisite - Split non-sRGB CSS color helpers out of nsCSSParser (c249eee4d1)
- Issue #3003 - Add CSS lch() color parsing support (576265905a)
- Issue #3043 - Fix stack OOB write in nsLocaleService::GetLocaleFromAcceptLanguage bounds checks (3c7ab8a384)
- Issue #3045 - backport of bug 1350760 - atomization fast-path improvements (b44216a883)
- Issue #3047 - Added a null-argument guard in uriloader/exthandler/nsExternalHelperAppService (3836a57d47)

No official Pale-Moon changes picked since my last build.

No official Basilisk changes picked since my last build.

My changes since my last build:
- [Basilisk] update UAO from Dactyloidae fork (a4db612fb8)
- Spoof to Firefox 128 for WebExtensions (ae7c40d461)

Update Notice:
- You may delete file named icudt*.dat and icu63.dll inside program folder when updating from old releases.

* Notice: From now on, UXP rev will point to `custom` branch of my UXP repo instead of MCP UXP repo, while "official UXP changes" shows only `tracking` branch changes.

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 23:08:18 +0000

New build of BOC/UXP for XP!

Test binary:
MailNews Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/mailnews.win32-20260418-40a79c75-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod.7z
BNavigator Win32 https://o.rthost.win/boc-uxp/bnavigator.win32-20260418-40a79c75-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP): https://github.com/roytam1/boc-uxp/tree/custom

* Notice: the profile prefix (i.e. parent folder names) are also changed since 2020-08-15 build, you may rename their names before using new binaries when updating from builds before 2020-08-15.

--

New build of HBL-UXP for XP!

Test binary:
IceDove-UXP(mail) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/icedove.win32-20260418-id-656ea98-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod.7z
IceApe-UXP(suite) https://o.rthost.win/hbl-uxp/iceape.win32-20260418-id-656ea98-ia-c642e3c-uxp-d4c4c1f6ec-xpmod.7z

source repo (excluding UXP):
https://github.com/roytam1/icedove-uxp/tree/winbuild
https://github.com/roytam1/iceape-uxp/tree/winbuild

RT1 Browser Platform :: Browsers release notes :: Reply by roytam1

no_email@example.com (roytam1) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 23:08:22 +0000

Mypal Browser :: New Mypal68 :: Reply by BAVBR

no_email@example.com (BAVBR) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 16:58:21 +0000

I I made a translation package for MyPal 78 in Brazilian Portuguese: https://github.com/bav-br/Mypal68-pt-br-langpack/releases/tag/v78.0.2

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Author demaxxander04

no_email@example.com (demaxxander04) — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 12:01:04 +0000

What is Windows 11 Retrograde?
Windows 11 Retrograde is a Windows modification based on Windows 11 IoT LTSC 2024, which tries to remind Windows XP, if it was made in current times, albeit without bloatware like Copilot, Edge or others.
Features:
• nostalgic vibe of Windows XP
• various vintage games included (featuring classics, such as Solitaire, Pinball, Purble Place and others!)
• no bloatware featured in regular Windows 11 editions
• a slightly better performance than stock Windows 11
• no TPM or Secure Boot requirements
• limited 16-bit support, provided by OTVDM

Version 5.11_4 ISO Download
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BFFCY6NEsqELpxP5QvR0mMC_knWcaJR4/view?usp=sharing

If you encounter an issue with the 0xC0000005 installation error, you have to restart it

Raytek forum post:
https://forum.raytek.cafe/viewtopic.php?t=76

Can I run this on real machine?
Yes you can, but I must recommend to install on VM first and then if you are comfy enough to use it as daily drive OS, you can use it on your host

What are system requirements for this mod?
This modification of the operating system has the same requirements as Windows 11 IoT LTSC 2024, which can be checked at Microsoft’s website.
The OS doesn’t require TPM 2.0 nor Secure Boot to work, due to its base.

Is Windows pre-activated?
For legal reasons, Windows is not activated. You need to activate Windows yourself.

How do get store on this mod?
Use this command on powershell as administrator:

Code: Select all

wsreset -i

If it doesn't work, you can try this: https://github.com/minihub/LTSC-Add-MicrosoftStore

Do games work on this mod?
Yes! but for UWP games (Forza Horizon series for example) require Xbox dependencies to run:

AppInstaller, Xbox Identity Provider, Xbox GameBar, Xbox app

For more information about this modification: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13qO60P6LSIITO2f4inOlHzPaWXYHZbEj/view?usp=sharing

Other Screenshots:
- Setup (Rectify11 2.5 modified):

- Multicolor Variant:

- Light Theme:

- Paranoid Theme:

- Luna Theme (Beta):

- Windows 11 (Bloom):

- Shutdown prompt:

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 14:19:22 +0000

demaxxander04 wrote: ↑10 Apr 2026, 12:01 albeit without bloatware like Copilot, Edge or others.

I haven't allowed it internet access, but it looks like Edge is included and attempts to update at every boot.

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Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by enmanuel

no_email@example.com (enmanuel) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 00:15:37 +0000

Interesting mod, i quite like the themes.

One important thing i must ask: Does it have support for Windows Update and Windows Defender? It's basically what i look for in a custom Windows 11 ISO.

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 04:55:31 +0000

Yes it does.

But... GOOD LUCK WITH THAT !!! Those are the first things I want ***REMOVED*** in a custom 11 (or even 10) !!! !!! !!!

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by demaxxander04

no_email@example.com (demaxxander04) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 10:33:01 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑10 Apr 2026, 14:19
demaxxander04 wrote: ↑10 Apr 2026, 12:01 albeit without bloatware like Copilot, Edge or others.
I haven't allowed it internet access, but it looks like Edge is included and attempts to update at every boot.

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I don't think it will ever install or run Edge even if the update service still exists and I think that's normal, I used this script to remove it: https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6

I used it for so long and still didn't got Edge!

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by demaxxander04

no_email@example.com (demaxxander04) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 10:33:21 +0000

enmanuel wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 00:15 Interesting mod, i quite like the themes.

One important thing i must ask: Does it have support for Windows Update and Windows Defender? It's basically what i look for in a custom Windows 11 ISO.

Yes it does have support

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by demaxxander04

no_email@example.com (demaxxander04) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 10:38:20 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 04:55 Yes it does.

But... GOOD LUCK WITH THAT !!! Those are the first things I want ***REMOVED*** in a custom 11 (or even 10) !!! !!! !!!

If you want Windows Update disabled, you can actually use this script (C:\Windows\windows-update-disabler-main) pre-included in this mod, even says in the readme documents!
For Defender, you can download Defender Control to disable it but you have to turn off Real Time Protection before using it!

I recommend doing system restore backup before doing anything!

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 10:48:46 +0000

demaxxander04 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 10:33 I don't think it will ever install or run Edge even if the update service still exists and I think that's normal, I used this script to remove it: https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6

I used it for so long and still didn't got Edge!

I for one don't like the word "think", but I can look past that (for now).

Also, I would prefer an ENTIRE LIST of scripts that were used, no matter how big or small that ENTIRE LIST is.

Also, what the H#LL is "everything.exe", "flow.launcher", etc. Seems this build has a TON of stuff ADDED.
TRUST is gained by providing that LIST upfront also!
I can *NOT* "trust" a build like this, no way, no how! But a LIST of what was ADDED would go a *VERY LONG WAY* towards 'gaining that trust'.

ie, I already have scripts that remove EDGE. And I don't have any Edge Updater running in the background! Nor that gigantic folder wasting space.
And I'm one of those old-schooler's still using QUICKEN for my checking account!
IT REQUIRES WEBVIEW RUNTIME, so no, that Edge Updater is not needed.

ps - sure, a great project!
BUT... folks that share things like this have to have the "skin" to be able to listen to both "positive" *AND* "negative" feedback...
I'm just saying that from what I have seen, I CAN NOT "TRUST" THIS BUILD.
And that is BEFORE allowing it internet access and logging any "activity" that this build does that a "normal" 11 does not do!
Or, preferrably, logging any "activity" that this build does NOT do that a "normal" 11 DOES do!

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by demaxxander04

no_email@example.com (demaxxander04) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 11:11:56 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 10:48
demaxxander04 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 10:33 I don't think it will ever install or run Edge even if the update service still exists and I think that's normal, I used this script to remove it: https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6

I used it for so long and still didn't got Edge!
I for one don't like the word "think", but I can look past that (for now).

Also, I would prefer an ENTIRE LIST of scripts that were used, no matter how big or small that ENTIRE LIST is.

Also, what the H#LL is "everything.exe", "flow.launcher", etc. Seems this build has a TON of stuff ADDED.
TRUST is gained by providing that LIST upfront also!
I can *NOT* "trust" a build like this, no way, no how! But a LIST of what was ADDED would go a *VERY LONG WAY* towards 'gaining that trust'.

ie, I already have scripts that remove EDGE. And I don't have any Edge Updater running in the background! Nor that gigantic folder wasting space.
And I'm one of those old-schooler's still using QUICKEN for my checking account!
IT REQUIRES WEBVIEW RUNTIME, so no, that Edge Updater is not needed.

ps - sure, a great project!
BUT... folks that share things like this have to have the "skin" to be able to listen to both "positive" *AND* "negative" feedback...
I'm just saying that from what I have seen, I CAN NOT "TRUST" THIS BUILD.
And that is BEFORE allowing it internet access and logging any "activity" that this build does that a "normal" 11 does not do!
Or, preferrably, logging any "activity" that this build does NOT do that a "normal" 11 DOES do!

everything.exe is for the Everything App and I also included Flow Launcher which it comes with Everything index plugin, if you open Search in start menu, it will redirect to Flow Launcher search!

Everything index does better job at searching files compared to Windows, this is why I included both of these and there's nothing suspicious about them!

as for the scripts:

Edge: https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6
WIndows Update: https://github.com/tsgrgo/windows-update-disabler

that's what I used for now.. I don't remember what else I used, if I do, I will let you know!

and like I told you, it does not install or re-enable Edge itself! If it was doing, then I might work on that, no problem!

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by demaxxander04

no_email@example.com (demaxxander04) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 11:23:04 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 10:48
demaxxander04 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 10:33 I don't think it will ever install or run Edge even if the update service still exists and I think that's normal, I used this script to remove it: https://gist.github.com/ave9858/c3451d9f452389ac7607c99d45edecc6

I used it for so long and still didn't got Edge!
I for one don't like the word "think", but I can look past that (for now).

Also, I would prefer an ENTIRE LIST of scripts that were used, no matter how big or small that ENTIRE LIST is.

Also, what the H#LL is "everything.exe", "flow.launcher", etc. Seems this build has a TON of stuff ADDED.
TRUST is gained by providing that LIST upfront also!
I can *NOT* "trust" a build like this, no way, no how! But a LIST of what was ADDED would go a *VERY LONG WAY* towards 'gaining that trust'.

ie, I already have scripts that remove EDGE. And I don't have any Edge Updater running in the background! Nor that gigantic folder wasting space.
And I'm one of those old-schooler's still using QUICKEN for my checking account!
IT REQUIRES WEBVIEW RUNTIME, so no, that Edge Updater is not needed.

ps - sure, a great project!
BUT... folks that share things like this have to have the "skin" to be able to listen to both "positive" *AND* "negative" feedback...
I'm just saying that from what I have seen, I CAN NOT "TRUST" THIS BUILD.
And that is BEFORE allowing it internet access and logging any "activity" that this build does that a "normal" 11 does not do!
Or, preferrably, logging any "activity" that this build does NOT do that a "normal" 11 DOES do!

"The Microsoft Edge Update service might remain, this is normal as it is required for updating WebView2."

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 12:06:07 +0000

demaxxander04 wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 11:11 Everything index does better job at searching files compared to Windows, this is why I included both of these and there's nothing suspicious about them!

"To each their own", as the saying goes.

We have OPPOSITE VIEWS on "searching files".
I disable/remove Windows' own "indexers" and I have NO USE in REPLACING it with something else.

Again, "to each their own".

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 18:56:26 +0000

You should replace Nocturne with r3dfox.

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 19:17:52 +0000

OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑11 Apr 2026, 18:56 You should replace Nocturne with r3dfox.

I prefer Nocturne (if I had to choose between just the two).
Admittedly, I wouldn't have even TRIED IT had it not been mentioned.
It should also be noted, per its repository, it's not a Firefox fork but rather it is a r3dfox fork (ie, "improved upon").

But everyone is going to have their own PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 05:25:07 +0000

Improved upon what? Only difference I can see between the two browsers are the branding.

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 11:33:32 +0000

OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑12 Apr 2026, 05:25 Improved upon what? Only difference I can see between the two browsers are the branding.

I'll have to take your word for it.
To me, Nocturne just *FEELS* more like a *STANDARDIZED* interface.
To me, r3dfox is HEAVILY THEMED for the DARK MODE USER (of which *I AM NOT*) [to each their own!].
Yeah, I can revert the STUPID dark-sh#t to FOLLOW MY OS SETTINGS, but the trapezoid tabs and title bar color just don't look STANDARD to me.

To me, it technically doesn't really matter.
Neither is my default browser, just something sitting in the background of VMs only and as a HOBBY BROWSER, never as something I use daily.
"To each their own."

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 14:41:41 +0000

Also you're using Imgur to host your images, I can't see them unless I am using a VPN. Please fix if you can

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by ThatRandomToast

no_email@example.com (ThatRandomToast) — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 14:46:02 +0000

OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑12 Apr 2026, 14:41 Also you're using Imgur to host your images, I can't see them unless I am using a VPN. Please fix if you can

Does ImgBB work in the UK (at least for now)?

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 14:46:36 +0000

ThatRandomToast wrote: ↑12 Apr 2026, 14:46 Does ImgBB work in the UK (at least for now)?

Yeah that works from what I can tell

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 18:53:29 +0000

No need of a third party hosting site, just use the attachments feature of the forum like this:

Click on the "Full Editor & Preview" button:

Eclipse-FullEditor.png

Then Attachments → Add files → Place inline

Eclipse-Attachments.png

Like I did in this post

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Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by Iffy-chan

no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 23:46:08 +0000

ThatRandomToast wrote: ↑12 Apr 2026, 14:46
OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑12 Apr 2026, 14:41 Also you're using Imgur to host your images, I can't see them unless I am using a VPN. Please fix if you can
Does ImgBB work in the UK (at least for now)?

Imgur was taken down in the UK not because of 'inappropriate content' but because of some other reason, if I remember rightly.

Something to do with data retention issues if I'm not mistaken, there was already a pending case against them from before the age-verification stuff got rolled out.

They didn't want to comply, so off they went.
(Funny how whenever it's the EU doing the exact same fucking shit it's a completely different ballpark and the reaction becomes far less mocking from individuals...)

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by enmanuel

no_email@example.com (enmanuel) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:20:26 +0000

Iffy-chan wrote: ↑16 Apr 2026, 23:46 (Funny how whenever it's the EU doing the exact same fucking shit it's a completely different ballpark and the reaction becomes far less mocking from individuals...)

The UK has just 4 countries with a total population of 60 million people, while the EU has 27 countries with a total population of over 200 450 million people. It's riskier to not comply with the EU than the UK.

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 02:34:37 +0000

enmanuel wrote: ↑17 Apr 2026, 01:06 the EU has 27 countries with a total population of over 200 million people.

More like about 450 million people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_European_Union

Community ISOs :: Windows 11 Retrograde :: Reply by enmanuel

no_email@example.com (enmanuel) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 18:19:40 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑17 Apr 2026, 02:34 More like about 450 million people:

Oh right, I looked at a wikipedia page that didn't list the total population.

Community Projects :: WindowsVersionTroll (Compatibility Tool) :: Reply by ibay770

no_email@example.com (ibay770) — Sun, 22 Mar 2026 09:03:00 +0000

for context menu :https://github.com/ibay613/windowstroll/blob/main/README.md

Community Projects :: Legacy RootCertificate And SHA-2 Update Pack For Older Windows (Created By Me In 2022 And Reuploaded) :: Reply by ibay770

no_email@example.com (ibay770) — Sun, 22 Mar 2026 09:05:54 +0000

link is down. Found this though.

https://github.com/user-attachments/files/23815017/Rootcertupdater.zip

Community Projects :: Legacy RootCertificate And SHA-2 Update Pack For Older Windows (Created By Me In 2022 And Reuploaded) :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sun, 22 Mar 2026 17:48:45 +0000

Thanks

I still have the files from the OP though, I've attached the smallest one to this post and I'll post the other one on some hosting site because it's too large for an attachment.

Attachments

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Community Projects :: Legacy RootCertificate And SHA-2 Update Pack For Older Windows (Created By Me In 2022 And Reuploaded) :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sun, 22 Mar 2026 23:26:04 +0000

XP-8.x SHA2 updates.zip:
https://upload.disroot.org/r/q6ZMamFJ#n85nTXzGfMxlSrwJnuY5ffmxhw4Oanu6i7XhCHupWjs=

Expiration: Tuesday, April 7, 2026 at 00:21 CET

I've also found this, which is supposed to work on any Windows version since XP:
https://github.com/asheroto/UpdateRootCertificates

But I've not tried it and there are warnings on VirusTotal:
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/77898603ecb62cd3399ccb2c346b83629c6edc70724c647322967e67bb5865a0

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Sun, 29 Mar 2026 12:14:35 +0000

OFFICIALLY THE FASTEST XUL BROWSER
DACTYLOIDAE 13 "WARP" OUT NOW
https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae/UXP/releases/tag/13.0

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sun, 29 Mar 2026 17:01:35 +0000

OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 12:14 OFFICIALLY THE FASTEST XUL BROWSER

Please post a screencap or two that backs up this. Thanks.

ie, I **AA BB AA NN DD OO NN EE DD** XUL a year or two ago because of how DAMN SLOW they are/were.

I kinda have no plans to even try another XUL without some sort of "reason" and speed would be a reason.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sun, 29 Mar 2026 22:03:49 +0000

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Sun, 29 Mar 2026 22:50:57 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 17:01
OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 12:14 OFFICIALLY THE FASTEST XUL BROWSER
Please post a screencap or two that backs up this. Thanks.

I kinda have no plans to even try another XUL without some sort of "reason" and speed would be a reason.

SPEEDOMETER 2.1
Pale Moon 34.1.0 AVX2 - 22.3
Dactyloidae 13.0-pre1.1 SSE2 - 33.7

This is also the first XUL browser to get e10s stable and enabled *by default*, which is also another major pain point, so now one page freezes instead of the whole browser.

YT Polymer loads 3x faster, crashes are less common, etc. Most of these changes will be backported to Eclipse Hydra/Lun3r first, then upstream UXP.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 08:53:21 +0000

OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 22:50 SPEEDOMETER 2.1
Pale Moon 34.1.0 AVX2 - 22.3
Dactyloidae 13.0-pre1.1 SSE2 - 33.7

Thanks !!!

Can you also please share the CPU and RAM of the test PC?
And were these tests performed on true hardware? Or a VM?

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 10:01:43 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 08:53
OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑29 Mar 2026, 22:50 SPEEDOMETER 2.1
Pale Moon 34.1.0 AVX2 - 22.3
Dactyloidae 13.0-pre1.1 SSE2 - 33.7
Thanks !!!

Can you also please share the CPU and RAM of the test PC?
And were these tests performed on true hardware? Or a VM?

ThinkPad T480 - 32GB DDR4, i5 8350U
Real hardware.

Another user tested it on a AMD Athlon 64 X2 (?) and got similar results

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 10:28:11 +0000

I'm afraid that isn't going to be "fast enough" for my usage.

My real hardware is slower and older but scores more than twice as fast on a "competing browser".
The redacted tab is just to hide my email address being shown on that tab.

Slower by 18% or 48% depending on how you count it.
On an e10s browser, it's that 48% that's technically more important, not the "single thread rating" of 18%.

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 10:37:21 +0000

ps - that is not to undermine the endeavor, looks like GREAT WORK and FINALLY somebody coming along that seeks to improve true PERFORMANCE !!!
Just saying that *I* don't gain anything from it on *my* hardware and *my* OS.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 10:40:11 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 10:28 I'm afraid that isn't going to be "fast enough" for my usage.

Slower by 18% or 48% depending on how you count it.
On an e10s browser, it's that 48% that's technically more important, not the "single thread rating" of 18%.

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I'm doing more work to optimise the browser engine even further, I think the only pain points in Speedometer for me is jQuery and React

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 10:54:09 +0000

Keep up the great work!
ps - my Speedometer 2.1 score of 71.0 is *WITH* several extensions also loaded.
My "baseline" (just the browser and some flags/settings changes, no extensions) is close to FOUR-AND-A-HALF times faster.
On a laptop that is older and slower than your test machine. And also 8GB RAM to your 32GB RAM.

Again, GREAT WORK and somebody finally came along to improve PERFORMANCE.
Just that I, as the end user, really has to use what is best for me and my OS.

I was still on XP just a year or two ago.
There comes a point in time where the end user has to ADMIT that they (myself included !!!) is lying to themselves when they (myself included !!!) shout from rooftops on how much "better" (have to include "air quotes") their (myself included !!!) "legacy OS" 'is'. Not to be misread. 10 and 11 *sucks*. But they **CAN** be modified into truly awesome (but don't hold your breath expecting Microsoft to do that for you, lol).

Baseline without any extensions:

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Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 11:10:54 +0000

OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 10:40 I'm doing more work to optimise the browser engine even further, I think the only pain points in Speedometer for me is jQuery and React

I can obtain Speedometer 2.1 scores on my older and slower laptop.
But at this stage, I think I'll delay until further optimizations are in place.

If I remember correctly, the "other" UXP browsers that I ran on this older-and-slower only scored in the SINGLE DIGITS.
But I'm not 100% sure on that from memory. That could be the even older and even slower computer used out in the garage.

Community Projects :: Dactyloidae Browser (yet another UXP, what a surprise) :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:54:53 +0000

HELP NEEDED!
Trying to get a macOS build going, and I am stuck.
https://repo.dactyloidae.xyz/Dactyloidae/UXP/issues/5

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no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Mon, 13 Apr 2026 19:04:59 +0000

Aside from performance-wise issues (I will fix that in 13.2 trust), what else would you like to see in Dactyloidae 13.2?

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 13 Apr 2026 19:17:54 +0000

OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑13 Apr 2026, 19:04 Aside from performance-wise issues (I will fix that in 13.2 trust), what else would you like to see in Dactyloidae 13.2?

Is Widevine L1 support possible?

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no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Mon, 13 Apr 2026 22:54:18 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑13 Apr 2026, 19:17
OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑13 Apr 2026, 19:04 Aside from performance-wise issues (I will fix that in 13.2 trust), what else would you like to see in Dactyloidae 13.2?
Is Widevine L1 support possible?

That'll be expensive as fuck, I wish I could add Winevine support fr

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no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 05:34:57 +0000

Windows XP x64 SP2
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ with 4GB RAM/1TB HGST SSD on nForce 630a

My benchmark scores are awful especially compared to what I saw above... Tested with a default profile. Chrome 49 scored more than twice as well, which is from over a decade ago at this point. The actual processor is from December 2006, so pretty much time-relevant to XP itself, I suppose.

I'll be honest, even the latest Firefox versions are not great to use on modern OSes, purely because SpiderMonkey is just not suited for the modern web's 'run everything as a JavaScript app and reimplement everything in it' philosophy (and for other reasons, like the fact Firefox is Chrome for people who think they're fighting The System, but it's actually funded by The System). (Interestingly, the author of that particular page I linked uses Pale Moon on Slackware, which amuses me considering Moonchild is actively hostile to Slackware users...)

For older, pre-2015 websites that didn't decide to jump on this bandwagon (yet), I guess I can see this being useful, but then again, literally any browser would do for those sites as long as it supports the relevant certificates. Not to mention that the amount of UXP forks is beginning to make the whole Pale Moon scenario look like this... actually, isn't that just the Windows Legacy communities in general?

The Edge-mimic theme is actually quite nice and really close to how I remember the original MS Edge looking, which IMO was a pretty underappreciated browser back then, however, though the menu bar being enabled by default on XP is probably not a good idea (and it shouldn't overlap the top bar like that, either).

Also, I'm really struggling to pronounce the name consistently. Maybe it's just me.

Don't let any of this put you off, however. It's not my fault web developers have an intellect that would make Nep look like a genius.

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no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 07:48:46 +0000

Iffy-chan wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 05:34 Windows XP x64 SP2
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ with 4GB RAM/1TB HGST SSD on nForce 630a

My benchmark scores are awful especially compared to what I saw above... Tested with a default profile. Chrome 49 scored more than twice as well, which is from over a decade ago at this point. The actual processor is from December 2006, so pretty much time-relevant to XP itself, I suppose.

I'll be honest, even the latest Firefox versions are not great to use on modern OSes, purely because SpiderMonkey is just not suited for the modern web's 'run everything as a JavaScript app and reimplement everything in it' philosophy (and for other reasons, like the fact Firefox is Chrome for people who think they're fighting The System, but it's actually funded by The System). (Interestingly, the author of that particular page I linked uses Pale Moon on Slackware, which amuses me considering Moonchild is actively hostile to Slackware users...)

For older, pre-2015 websites that didn't decide to jump on this bandwagon (yet), I guess I can see this being useful, but then again, literally any browser would do for those sites as long as it supports the relevant certificates. Not to mention that the amount of UXP forks is beginning to make the whole Pale Moon scenario look like this... actually, isn't that just the Windows Legacy communities in general?

The Edge-mimic theme is actually quite nice and really close to how I remember the original MS Edge looking, which IMO was a pretty underappreciated browser back then, however, though the menu bar being enabled by default on XP is probably not a good idea (and it shouldn't overlap the top bar like that, either).

Also, I'm really struggling to pronounce the name consistently. Maybe it's just me.

Don't let any of this put you off, however. It's not my fault web developers have an intellect that would make Nep look like a genius.

I will fix all these issues (except for the name considering I already bought the damn domain lol). The menu-bar being enabled by default on XP was probably a leftover from when I forked Eclipse Hydra (which itself is a fork of Serpent, which ITSELF is a fork of Basilisk).

I want to attempt to try and get the JS engine and other noticable nit-picks of UXP optimised, and I've already did the first half of that with adding e10s for realsies (I think I am the only UXP browser to have such enabled by default)

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 10:37:04 +0000

I feel that ICECAT was the BEST 'fox-based browser out there. BY FAR !!!

It is the ONLY (and I do mean ***OONNLLYY***) 'fox-based I've ever seen without all of the DAMN BACKGROUND CONNECTION B&LLSH#T.

Any way to bring in that LACK OF BACKGROUND CONNECTION B&LLSH#T to Dact-Ae ???

Also, I really really REALLY HATE that uBO is "included by default" !!!

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no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 11:45:48 +0000

OwnedByWuigi wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 07:48

It seems to be a bug in almost every Firefox-based browser for many, many years. It's even worse in Vista/7 where the text is usually unreadable, the only one who ever fixed this issue was K4sum1 and even he had to basically brute force the fix through his custom theming engine...

Good luck, you're looking at a 10+ year old codebase that was already insanely outdated and falling over a year behind Chrome at the time it was relevant. This is in part due to Mozilla forcing the rapid release schedule and a business-like attitude on a codebase that was never intended to be developed in that way, which broke add-on development. (Who can guess why, it's related to the link I posted earlier.)

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 10:37

LibreWolf?

On a note, read this page. OCSP queries and captive portals aren't blocked by IceCat, though a few other things are.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 11:54:18 +0000

Iffy-chan wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 11:45 LibreWolf?

H#LL NO !!!

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no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 12:01:11 +0000

There was no need for the big capital letters, I wasn't being snappy towards you. I've not kept up with recent affairs so I don't know what is current.

That screenshot is disappointing, though reading the digdeeper page a little more thoroughly this time, somehow not surprising. There doesn't really seem to be an option outside grabbing a custom user.js file.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 12:23:03 +0000

That screenshot actually GREW when I clicked the refresh button a few minutes after screencapping.
LibreWolf (to me!) has always been somewhat of a MISGUIDED FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY to those that "believe their HYPE".
No browser is perfect. NONE!

Don't misread, I'm not one of those overly-paranoid folks.
But come on, 20+ connections each and every time you open your browser?
Icecat has ZERO. Ungoogled Chromium has ZERO. But I can't Netflix in either of them!

I used to publicly tweak/modify a browser called 360Chrome and it too had ZERO (I actually still use it, but only for email and SMS).
But don't ever use the untweaked/unmodified !!! I never allowed it any internet connection !!!
But I also didn't "need to" be able to run Netflix back in the day and age I used 360Chrome.
Did it work with Netflix? Don't know, to be honest. I was also on XP at that time and my life has changed since.

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no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 15:58:29 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 10:37 I feel that ICECAT was the BEST 'fox-based browser out there. BY FAR !!!

It is the ONLY (and I do mean ***OONNLLYY***) 'fox-based I've ever seen without all of the DAMN BACKGROUND CONNECTION B&LLSH#T.

Any way to bring in that LACK OF BACKGROUND CONNECTION B&LLSH#T to Dact-Ae ???

I’ll see what IceCat does to stop background connection and add it as a preference in Dactyloidae. I feel like it’ll break some stuff though with extensions such as SponsorBlock which genuinely needs background connections.

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no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Tue, 14 Apr 2026 23:54:34 +0000

holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 01:24:45 +0000

wuggy wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 23:54 holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?

Dact-ae is *VERY* tame considering THIS is what Official (I used PortableApps, the results are the same!) Firefox looks like on its VERY FIRST LAUNCH.
Fresh OS install, very first install-and-launch of Firefox.
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox *with* an internet connection active.
Install with internet DISABLED COMPLETELY, jump through about six hundred and sixty six "hoops" to CONFIGURE IT, et cetera.
So that at least FUTURE launches don't reach out to OVER TWO HUNDRED connections !!!

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no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 01:37:42 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 01:24 One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox

FTFY

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 02:09:03 +0000

1) that snippet is only part of my original, ie, OUT OF CONTEXT

2) I really have no clue what "FTFY" stands for. F..k That F..k You ???

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no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 02:20:41 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 01:24
wuggy wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 23:54 holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?
Dact-ae is *VERY* tame considering THIS is what Official (I used PortableApps, the results are the same!) Firefox looks like on its VERY FIRST LAUNCH.
Fresh OS install, very first install-and-launch of Firefox.
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox *with* an internet connection active.

Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 02:32:01 +0000

wuggy wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 02:20 Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1

That doesn't look correct.
For one, you would have had to disable Dact-ae's default schemery of installing uBO without asking you if you want uBO.

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no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 02:42:17 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 02:32
wuggy wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 02:20 Here it is on Dactyloidae 13.1
That doesn't look correct.
For one, you would have had to disable Dact-ae's default schemery of installing uBO without asking you if you want uBO.

I never got the uBO bundling to work for me, even on a fresh profile.

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no_email@example.com (Duke) — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 04:30:51 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 01:24 jump through about six hundred and sixty six "hoops" to CONFIGURE IT, et cetera.
So that at least FUTURE launches don't reach out to OVER TWO HUNDRED connections !!!

Once again you are talking about DNS queries and not established connections. We already had this discussion:
https://board.eclipse.cx/viewtopic.php?p=7151#p7151

If you want to see active connections then use TCPView: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/tcpview
or NetworkTrafficView if you want to use another tool from NirSoft: https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/network_traffic_view.html

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 21:32:32 +0000

You're basically the ONLY person I've heard that basically claims to IGNORE dns queries.
I'm not going to IGNORE them - THEY SHOULD NOT EXIST, you don't need a dns query unless you need to USE IT.
I've done the TCP log route also - and FIREFOX and FORKS really do make a sh#tTon of connections - until you jump through hoops.
Which is "more important" still seems a bit of "to may toe, to mah toe" to me.

You really do not need a "dns lookup" unless you need to USE IT, *they should not exist* and I view it as *biased* to think otherwise.
Sorry, just do.

BOTH of them are CONNECTIONS to the OUTSIDE WORLD.
NEITHER should exist unless the USER opts to connect to anywhere within that outside world.
NO browser should EVER have to connect to the OUTSIDE WORLD just because it was OPENED and the user hasn't even told it WHERE TO GO yet.

That really is a BIG DEAL to me. NO OUTSIDE WORLD CONNECTIONS just because I opened a d@mn web browser!

ps - reading or posting here lately is a bit of a NIGHTMARE... spinning circles for SEVERAL minutes... Ugh...

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no_email@example.com (enmanuel) — Wed, 15 Apr 2026 23:19:00 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 10:37 Also, I really really REALLY HATE that uBO is "included by default" !!!

Well, why? I really like uBO for content blocking. And even if you did hate it, can't you just uninstall? I didn't get the uBO bundle when i upgraded from 13.0 to 13.1 so sorry for any mistakes

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no_email@example.com (Duke) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:02:58 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 21:32 BOTH of them are CONNECTIONS to the OUTSIDE WORLD.

No.
One and only DNS server is not the whole outside world.
Plus you are not sending data, telemetry or whatever else information to a DNS server but only the resolution request of a domain name to an IP number.
Nothing else.

Not to mention that many things on your computer are connecting to the outside world once you simply boot it. The video driver is one example but many parts of the OS are also making connections to the outside world.

If you don't want connections that you can't control then don't even connect your computer to the internet.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:11:41 +0000

True. But that doesn't mean I "need" those BS 'requests'. I don't like them happening and so I use browsers that do not have them.

And you keep overlooking, it's not simply about the DNS because TCPs *also occur*.
I personally think DNSs are easier to track because I always have to do *DOZENS* (plural!) of IP Address Lookups when parsing a TCP log. So yeah, I prefer the DNS logs because they don't require that tedious task.

To Each Their Own.
None of my browsers ping a DNS server just because I open it.

Your computer, your rules.
My computer, my rules.

NOTHING ELSE.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:15:23 +0000

enmanuel wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 23:19 I really like uBO for content blocking.

As do I !!! !!! !!!
But I intentionally use an OLDER version and I have personally HEAVILY modified it.
Something I do not want to do each and every time a USELESS update is rolled out.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 22:15:02 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑15 Apr 2026, 01:24
wuggy wrote: ↑14 Apr 2026, 23:54 holy shit the background connections are baddd on ae (for some reason its background connecting to both palemoon.org and basilisk-browser.org aswell as PayPal?
Dact-ae is *VERY* tame considering THIS is what Official (I used PortableApps, the results are the same!) Firefox looks like on its VERY FIRST LAUNCH.
Fresh OS install, very first install-and-launch of Firefox.
One should really *NEVER* "install" Firefox *with* an internet connection active.
Install with internet DISABLED COMPLETELY, jump through about six hundred and sixty six "hoops" to CONFIGURE IT, et cetera.
So that at least FUTURE launches don't reach out to OVER TWO HUNDRED connections !!!

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Here it is on 13.2 (mind you, this is still in early ALPHA), quite a bit more tame compared to 13.1.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 22:55:12 +0000

wuggy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2026, 22:15 Here it is on 13.2 (mind you, this is still in early ALPHA), quite a bit more tame compared to 13.1.

Awesome!
VERY GREATFUL that somebody is taking "trivial" connections SERIOUSLY !!! KUDOS!
I'm not biased. I'm really not. Just been "doing this" for a very long time, never believe "marketing" claims, it's really that simple.
I have no browsing habits that need "hidden" or anything, I just believe in PRIVACY RIGHTS and "telemetry" of any kind P*SS#S ME OFF !!!

I do (kind of) admit that Firefox/LibreWolf P*SS#S ME OFF THE MOST because they GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to "market" themselves towards 'privacy'.
But yeah, MAYBE we have BEATEN THAT DEAD HORSE enough. I said *MAYBE*

Source: https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/browser-connected-domains-telemetry-test-2025-by-sizeofcat/26866

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no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 22:58:15 +0000

Also a small thing which somehow wasn't done by anyone else but now, Dactyloidae is now XDG compliant (on Linux and BSDs)

What that means is the browser's configuration and stuff will be under the .config folder in /home/ instead of it's own folder in /home/ (why??)

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no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 03:38:21 +0000

FYI this is the official page about Firefox automatic connections:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections

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no_email@example.com (BAVBR) — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 00:38:08 +0000

I'm trying to finalize a Dactyloidae language pack for Brazilian Portuguese, based on what I did for Serpent 52, aware that it is still under development and receiving modifications, but my progress has stalled with errors in about:home, History and Favorites.

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I checked the source code and made all the changes to the files that were modified, but I still haven't been successful; I tried to extract the omni.ja files, but the parts relating to the language are not being extracted and I am unable to review them.

Anyway, I'll leave the preview version for anyone who wants to test it: https://send.now/i2sg33lugahg

PS.: I tested the Linux version on BigLinux Based in Manjaro 26.0.3 (kernel 6.12.77 and Mesa 26..0.1) and noticed some glitches in the interface and webextensions but it is working without any major problems.

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no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Sat, 18 Apr 2026 23:20:20 +0000

wuggy wrote: ↑17 Apr 2026, 22:58 Also a small thing which somehow wasn't done by anyone else but now, Dactyloidae is now XDG compliant (on Linux and BSDs)

What that means is the browser's configuration and stuff will be under the .config folder in /home/ instead of it's own folder in /home/ (why??)

Oh, neat. Even current iterations of Firefox make a .mozilla folder, if I'm not mistaken.

Also, consider making Mojeek the default search engine, if you read their blog you'll see what I mean. It's actually privacy-friendly, and uses its own crawler, unlike most other 'smaller' search engines. https://www.mojeek.com/

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no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 02:17:15 +0000

Iffy-chan wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 23:20 Also, consider making Mojeek the default search engine, if you read their blog you'll see what I mean. It's actually privacy-friendly, and uses its own crawler, unlike most other 'smaller' search engines. https://www.mojeek.com/

I’m only using DuckDuckGo because it helps support the Pale Moon developers financially (their deal with DDG is their primary source of income).

I’ll make Mojeek an option though.

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no_email@example.com (Iffy-chan) — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 06:57:01 +0000

wuggy wrote: ↑19 Apr 2026, 02:17
Iffy-chan wrote: ↑18 Apr 2026, 23:20 Also, consider making Mojeek the default search engine, if you read their blog you'll see what I mean. It's actually privacy-friendly, and uses its own crawler, unlike most other 'smaller' search engines. https://www.mojeek.com/
I’m only using DuckDuckGo because it helps support the Pale Moon developers financially (their deal with DDG is their primary source of income).

I’ll make Mojeek an option though.

Thank you! DDG/Bing is better for non-English results, anyhow.

As it stands, by the way, the default bookmarks bar also not only lacks a link to Eclipse and/or the Pale Moon website, but the repository link is outdated and I can't even find 'bookmarks' in the [...] dropdown menu for some reason? Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, lol.

There's a typo in this text: "No notification will be shown until you restart Dactyloidae", it should be 'notifications'.
Not sure about 'alternate' engines in the description about search bars. I'm pretty sure alternate is a verb and alternative is the adjective, though apparently it's an Americanism to use 'alternate' everywhere...

(Also, please readd the option to set the new tab page, that was removed in Firefox 48? It seems like it was only ever removed because Chrome did it...)

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no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Thu, 02 Apr 2026 14:00:36 +0000

From Betanews!

https://betanews.com/article/ad-trackers-now-account-for-over-10-percent-of-global-internet-traffic/

AdGuard has released its latest Ad Trackers Report, an annual look at how advertising and tracking systems affect internet traffic worldwide. The report shows that ad trackers accounted for 10.22 percent of global internet traffic in 2025, marking a clear increase compared to the 7.84 percent recorded in 2024.

The figures reflect what the company describes as "raw requests", meaning the initial connections made when a page loads. These requests are often invisible to users but are triggered alongside normal website content.

SEE ALSO: The rise of AI search is creating 'invisible visits' across the web

A single ad-related request can also trigger additional background calls to other services. AdGuard estimates that blocking one primary request prevents an average of 4.17 additional requests from taking place, showing how quickly traffic can multiply behind the scenes.

North and Central America recorded widespread increases across most countries included in the dataset. The United States rose from 6.61 percent to 10.25 percent, while Mexico climbed from 7.49 percent to 11.61 percent during the same period.

South America showed similarly steady growth, with several countries moving from mid-single-digit levels into double digits. Peru increased from 6.60 percent to 12.51 percent, while Colombia and Ecuador also recorded jumps into the 11 percent range.

Europe presented a more uneven pattern, with faster growth concentrated in Eastern and Southeastern countries. Belarus rose from 7.61 percent to 13.20 percent, while Greece and Serbia also moved into double-digit levels.

Western and Northern Europe showed slower changes overall. Countries including Spain, Italy, and France recorded moderate increases, while Germany and the Netherlands continued to post lower figures compared to much of Eastern Europe.

Asia displayed mixed results depending on location. Countries such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia crossed into double digits, while India saw a slight drop from 12.48 percent to 11.12 percent despite remaining at relatively high levels.

Africa recorded some of the biggest increases overall. South Africa rose from 7.80 percent to 13.69 percent, with Nigeria, Egypt, and Morocco also entering double-digit territory.

Across all regions, the report shows a consistent upward trend rather than isolated spikes.

You can view the full report here.

General Chat :: Ad trackers now account for over 10 percent of global internet traffic :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Thu, 02 Apr 2026 18:07:25 +0000

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 14:00 You can view the full report here.

Here is there:
https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-ad-tracker-report-2025.html

General Chat :: Ad trackers now account for over 10 percent of global internet traffic :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 02 Apr 2026 18:47:18 +0000

It's always a punch-in-the-gut re-awakening whenever I have to turn my adblockers off for a "trusted" website (that has no ads to begin with!).
But then forget to turn the adblockers back ON when navigating away from that trusted website.
A gigantic, "Holy Crap! I forgot that the web was this plastered with ads!"

General Chat :: Ad trackers now account for over 10 percent of global internet traffic :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Thu, 02 Apr 2026 19:01:55 +0000

I think I read somewhere that AI accounts for *THIRTY* percent.
We should be more concerned with that.
Granted, the ad traffic is an EYESORE and the AI traffic is "out of sight, out of mind".

General Chat :: Which TV shows are you watching? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:30:27 +0000

Travelers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelers_(TV_series)
https://travelers.fandom.com/wiki/Travelers_Wiki
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5651844

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by wuggy

no_email@example.com (wuggy) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 08:28:41 +0000

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 10:39:18 +0000

Hey, it is what I am listening to for a project later today.
Nobody said I had to be listening to music, lol.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Tue, 24 Mar 2026 23:07:44 +0000

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Tue, 31 Mar 2026 21:44:16 +0000

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 20:17:32 +0000

At workplace, there's a radio in the office set to this one station that loops same songs over and over. Maybe they change them every once in a while. Just realized the song above is one of those they have.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 21:03:26 +0000

^Yeah, I like it but, I know, they radio tends to wear out a good song playing it over-and-over.

General Chat :: what are you listening to? :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sun, 05 Apr 2026 12:44:27 +0000

I don't listen to much stuff anyway, rarely find something new. So when I do listen to something, it's the same old over and over again.

Hell is repetition.

General Chat :: Earthlight and Eclipse :: Author Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Tue, 07 Apr 2026 20:40:09 +0000

Captured from Orion spacecraft:
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e000192/art002e000192~orig.jpg
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e009287/art002e009287~orig.jpg
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e009288/art002e009288~orig.jpg
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e009288/art002e009288~orig.jpg

And Eclipse!
https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e009301/art002e009301~orig.jpg

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Dustman0192

no_email@example.com (Dustman0192) — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 16:44:22 +0000

Hi all! Good to be here I found out about Eclipse.cx when I found r3dfox to install on my Windows 7 gaming rig. Saw you guys had a forum and decided to join up I'd like to help contribute in some way as well, just haven't had the time to really dig in and see where I'd be a good fit to help!

General Chat :: Introduce yourselves here! :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 20:09:31 +0000

Hi and welcome to the forums!

General Chat :: Various videos :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 20:12:43 +0000

A Nutella Odyssey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6FwPOb_Q_M

General Chat :: Today's Pet Peeve :: Author The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:05:11 +0000

A pet peeve thread.

I've never really been a fan of drug companies advertising their drugs on tv commercials.
To make matters worse, my tv provider, and even many of my streaming web sites, tend to play commercials BACK-TO-BACK.
Literally the same exact commercial played back-to-back with nothing between.

Today's Pet Peeve:
Just had to watch some stupid drug commercial, back-to-back.
Didn't catch the name of the drug, just some skin condition drug.
Didn't even catch if it was an ointment or a pill.

30 second commercial.
ENTIRE commercial (on mute, I always mute commercials) was nothing but a red rash being scratched to scabs!
An entire 30 seconds of watching somebody scratch themselves raw!

Doesn't wanna make me go out and ask a doctor for the ointment or pill, makes me wanna grab a bottle of Pepto-Bismol and drink the entire bottle.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Wed, 25 Mar 2026 16:59:54 +0000

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Wed, 25 Mar 2026 17:10:54 +0000

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by Possum98

no_email@example.com (Possum98) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 16:46:19 +0000

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 17:07:00 +0000

^I have all those except for the eating disorder and the Bipolar ... 'is what it is' or so they say. Good to see you btw

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by Possum98

no_email@example.com (Possum98) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 17:11:30 +0000

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 17:07 ^I have all those except for the eating disorder and the Bipolar ... 'is what it is' or so they say. Good to see you btw

hi yes I'm still here but my main account is gone now (by my request not a ban) I will keep this account for visiting only i also use macos more it's been incredible

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 17:23:20 +0000

Possum98 wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 17:11 i also use macos more it's been incredible

What is "macos" ? Some kind of taco made out of macaroni?

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 17:24:36 +0000

Oh, wait, partial blush moment... Did you mean macOS ???

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by Possum98

no_email@example.com (Possum98) — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 17:43:10 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 17:24 Oh, wait, partial blush moment... Did you mean macOS ???

yes macos 10.15 catalina on an old 2012 macbook pro

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Wed, 01 Apr 2026 22:45:53 +0000

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sun, 05 Apr 2026 16:31:19 +0000

xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 17:07 ^I have all those except for the eating disorder and the Bipolar ... 'is what it is' or so they say.

How do you still manage? And for how long have you been in this hell?

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Sun, 05 Apr 2026 23:21:37 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑05 Apr 2026, 16:31
xperceniol_sal wrote: ↑30 Mar 2026, 17:07 ^I have all those except for the eating disorder and the Bipolar ... 'is what it is' or so they say.
How do you still manage? And for how long have you been in this hell?

I wouldn't say I manage all that well most of the time tbh but sometimes I OK I guess and have some good days. I've been dealing with mental health issues for 54 years (my birthday was 5 days ago) and I've always struggled for as long as I can recall. Yeah, when will I be able to gain acceptance (rq)....

How are you doing?

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Mon, 06 Apr 2026 08:59:03 +0000

At the risk of not saying this the "right way" (communication skills), I'll go ahead and give it a try nonetheless...

Sometimes, just sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes I think you both (no offense!) just like to play the "victim card".
All of the NEGATIVITY is just where DOWNWARD SPIRALS begin. The World Sucks, blah blah blah!
FORGIVE ME if I am misreading.

Listen, please, I get it! OCD, ADHD, *ON THE SPECTRUM* [Asperger's / High-Functioning (and I *prefer* the days when they used to call it that, but they no longer do)], *extremely* HYPER, communication skills that *require* the LISTENER to have the proper UNDERSTANDING on how to even LISTEN to me, et cetera. Again, I get it!

Listen, I'm in the same boat! I really am! Everyone on the planet has "something", that's my view! Everyone! To some degree!

I'm in the same boat! But HOW is having OTHERS read the NEGATIVITY supposed to help ANYONE? Serious question! No need to "answer".
You're sitting at a computer, maybe type all of that NEGATIVITY into Notepad or Word. Save or delete after typing, your choice.
You got it "off your shoulder" by typing it! But making others read the NEGATIVITY? That part I really do not understand!
I think of it as a psychologist or counselor, all of the NEGATIVITY that goes into his/her notes IS NOT POSTED FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION.

SORRY! I just don't. And I'll say it again, I'm in the same boat. Always makes me think of EEYORE (Winnie-the-Pooh character).
Cool read on mental disorders and POOH CHARACTERS - https://blog.earkick.com/winnie-the-pooh-mental-illness-and-10-characters-explained/

I call it "steering into the skid".
Take control of the situation *NOT* by telling HR "I am disabled, my coworkers are making me uncomfortable" (paraphrasing).
I went that route once. FMLA through HR, this only made situations with coworkers *WORSE*, not better, so I *no longer* go that route!
Granted, was VERY FUN! Throw "I'm taking an FMLA Day" every time somebody stress-induced anxieties into shaking hands.
They would stand there like a deer in the headlights, "What the heck just happened? So now this isn't getting done until he comes back from FMLA?"
Rather, I don't like the group setting and do not function within it, so I've worked every Saturday for THIRTY-PLUS years.
ONLY person in the entire building! And so FOCUSED that I get done in ONE DAY what my coworkers get done in THREE DAYS.
EVERY boss over the years has "noticed". It has worked well for me. Job titles based on what I can 'do', zero college degree.
Other department boss's, "I can't give that project to him, my team feels he does not respect them and he doesn't attend group meetings."
My boss, "You have to trust me, he is the only one that WILL meet your timeline, he WILL communicate with Excel charts and graphs, it works!"

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Tue, 07 Apr 2026 16:47:04 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑06 Apr 2026, 08:59Listen, please, I get it! OCD, ADHD, *ON THE SPECTRUM* [Asperger's / High-Functioning (and I *prefer* the days when they used to call it that, but they no longer do)], *extremely* HYPER, communication skills that *require* the LISTENER to have the proper UNDERSTANDING on how to even LISTEN to me, et cetera. Again, I get it!

Thank you for getting it ... I would say compare to others where I reside I'm also High-Functioning. I can shower and dress myself without assistance compare to others here. I don't cook and need permission to use the stove but I can use the microwave on my own. I'm the ONLY one that has their own computers; the other guys (and 1 girl) here only use their phones, which is sometimes a pain in the ass when others need to print something. I have to hover over their shoulder when somebody else uses my computer and I don't like it at all and they know that. I'm not hyper though but I see others and I can talk (speak) to anybody with special needs and I just skip over what I don't get. Most people here get me by now as I've lived here for quite some time and most everybody knows I'm autistic. You and I would be able to talk to each other without any issues.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Thu, 09 Apr 2026 20:17:35 +0000

We're all victims of birth and various other (un)fortunate circumstances. I ramble and shout at the clouds as it often feels like the only thing I can do. And ignoring the Matrix, there simply isn't much to this whole existence.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 16:29:59 +0000

André Linoge wrote:You don't like knowing, do you?

Mike Anderson wrote:Not your brand of it, no.

André Linoge wrote:Perhaps you don't believe me.

Mike Anderson wrote:I believe you, but the thing of it is you see only the bad, none of the good.

André Linoge wrote:By and large Constable the good's an illusion. Little fables folks tell themselves so they can get through their days without screaming too much.

Mike Anderson wrote:I don't believe that.

André Linoge wrote:I know. A good boy to the last. But I think you'll find yourself at the short end this time. Your town if full of adulterers, pedophiles, thieves, gluttons, murderers, bullies, scoundrels and covertous morons and I know every last one of them.

Born in lust, turn to dust. Born in sin, come on in.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 18:38:55 +0000

Is the glass half empty or half full ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_the_glass_half_empty_or_half_full%3F

Your choice

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Sun, 12 Apr 2026 18:42:01 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑12 Apr 2026, 18:38 Is the glass half empty or half full ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_the_glass_half_empty_or_half_full%3F

Your choice

NEITHER !!!

I've always preferred "You need a different size of glass."

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 06:11:23 +0000

In Storm of the Century, Mike was decent, the rest were traitors.

General Chat :: Be Humble Be Forgiving Be Open Be Kind (Depression Detox Thread) :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:09:19 +0000

Never heard of it. It's on Hulu/Disney+ so I may catch it at some point.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_of_the_Century
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/storm_of_the_century

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sat, 21 Mar 2026 22:20:26 +0000

In similar boat when it comes to being mute in these types of situations. I wish I could navigate them better.

Regarding desktop computer, guess I'll see what still works or not next week. The laptop also got a new problem in recent months that upper and lower portion of the screen blinks in white for short periods, most often when it's turned on, seems it's triggered by lid movement.

Elections are tomorrow. No idea what to vote for. Does it even matter? For all I know, the end of the world is coming.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Tue, 24 Mar 2026 23:04:08 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2026, 22:20...
Regarding desktop computer, guess I'll see what still works or not next week. The laptop also got a new problem in recent months that upper and lower portion of the screen blinks in white for short periods, most often when it's turned on, seems it's triggered by lid movement...

Any luck? Gosh, two computers on the fritz ... I hope you get things working. Good luck.

UCyborg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2026, 22:20...For all I know, the end of the world is coming...

It does feel that way nowadays.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by Duke

no_email@example.com (Duke) — Wed, 25 Mar 2026 11:11:21 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑21 Mar 2026, 22:20 For all I know, the end of the world is coming.

The end of our civilization as we know it for 2000 years, maybe.
The end of human kind, surely. Sooner or later.
But the end of the world, no. The world, our planet, has about 4 billions years to go so it will have time to try many things before being eaten by the dying sun. We, humans, are not the world, despite of what we think.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Thu, 26 Mar 2026 05:51:45 +0000

I installed new PSU on Monday and things seem to be back to normal.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Thu, 02 Apr 2026 19:44:27 +0000

Computer still works, sooo, going for another 17 years?

Things already feel surreal today...

Windows went a bit loco yesterday. When I opened Explorer's save dialog through Thorium, got notifications about the number of file associations being reset. Who knows what's got into it.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 05:43:06 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 19:44 Computer still works, sooo, going for another 17 years?

Don't Do It !!! I'm being dead serious! Do Not Throw More Money At That Computer!

I'm speaking from a "been there, done that" perspective.
Because I too used to throw money at computers in order to own them for TWENTY-PLUS YEARS.

I did this for THREE different computers over the span of thirty years, give or take.
Overlapping ownership, I'm not 80+ years old with the first at age 20 or late teens, lol.
Brought on through a realization from my "decade of decadence" (Motley Crue reference) of owning computers for 2.5 to 5 years before replacing.
ps - listening to this as I write the remainder of my post --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQpXUD1FCTc

So I went from the "lifestyle" of replacing a computer every 2.5 to 5 years to throwing money at them but replacing only after 20+ years.
Again, I did this on three different computers. Making a computer last 20+ years is very very VERY easy easy EASY.
It is *NOT* some "wear it on your sleeve" rite of passage into some form of Ageless Wisdom. Rather, it is the OPPOSITE.
It does 'require' THROWING MONEY AT THEM. RAM here, PSU there, CPU here, motherboard there, another round of RAM, et cetera.

In a nutshell, DON'T THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD MONEY.
You don't (though many do!) spend $1000 on tires JUST TO SELL the vehicle and the new tires got you an extra $100 on the sale price.
You're still IN THE HOLE $900.

LAW OF DIMINISHING RETURNS !!!
Hint: You already passed it by buying a new PSU instead of replacing a capacitor in the old one!
A *few* dollars for a capacitor and firing up your own soldering iron and your own labor versus spending 130-TIMES to 500-TIMES for the new PSU!

I'm not going to go as far as to say it was the "biggest mistake I ever made", it was *NOT*.
BUT... There is a point of diminishing returns. And again, you passed it by spending money for a new PSU.
I applaud the goal on one hand. Again, been there, done that.
But the other hand KNOWS FROM EXPERIENCE that 12 to 17 years is one thing!
But 20+ is something entirely different (and becomes borderline insane, again, "been there, done that").

It reminds me of a project dad had me do on a Commodore 64 in the late 80s.
He had me do an "amortization table" on his 30yr mortgage on the house we moved into when I was in my early teens.
He retired a decade or so later and another decade or so after that, he came to me with that old C64 printout (and some grade-school drawings).

It was a moment of pride for him, "Look, I bought a house for $34k in 1982 and I just sold it for $112k".
After originally listing it at $135k and taking over six months to sell !!!

It was a moment of pride for me. I handed it back to him and proudly proclaimed, "YOU LOST MONEY! You have to account for the mortgage interest, the new siding, the new furnace, the new roof, and the pool and deck you added but only used that last half-summer of ownership. Every "investment" has to account for deposits and withdrawals before you can call it a gain or a loss based solely on first number versus last number. Inflation ALONE puts you over $105k, YOU LOST MONEY."

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 20:14:28 +0000

I thought about the issue with some capacitor. Might open the old PSU some day to see if anything stands out (me and electronics, though). I just wanted a quick fix, this computer's been with me for so long that it's hard to just let go.

Money always finds the way to slip out off one's pocket. I threw more of it at dumber shit at times, even if I'm considered more of a saving type. My brother always says better spend it to have something rather than save it and have nothing.

The point of diminishing returns definitely stands. About the money part, you'd also have to get something used rather than new to save it. It's not much different from cars, huh?

In any case, I do appreciate your thoughts.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:25:01 +0000

My newest laptop is a screamer and it came from a PAWN SHOP.
Still in the original box, still had all of the plastic stretch-wrap, battery was still in a separate box.
Literally all but BRAND NEW, never used, battery never inserted.
But technically ONE YEAR OLD (okay, 10 months!).

Got it for HALF what it sells for per "MSRP".
Sure, a large bit of "right place, right time".
But it turned me into somebody that now visits PAWN SHOPS ***OFTEN*** just to look at the new arrivals.
They only take laptops and not desktops and only take one year old or younger and MUST HAVE ORIGINAL BOX.
Turns out, the PAWN SHOP works with several local BUSINESSES and basically buys their "surplus".

If your town doesn't have any PAWN SHOPS, it's WELL WORTH IT to drive the hour or two to the nearest "big city".

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by The-10-Pen

no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 23:39:14 +0000

And I totally get the money bit. More so than anyone else on the planet.
That's not bragging, that's just lessons learned the hard way!

During my college years, I had ***TWENTY SIX*** credit cards !!!
They would set up tables at the cafeteria and hand out applications like Tic Tacs.

I had a credit card debt over THREE TIMES my annual income!
NEVER late on ANY payment, NEVER late on rent! No real DIME to my name!
My dad told me to file bankruptcy and it INFURIATED ME.
I asked for "help" and he told me to file bankruptcy, saying I'd never pay all that debt.

I DID PAY IT ALL BACK !!!
*ZERO* handouts from anybody, *ZERO* debt-reduction "services".
I PAID EVERY D@MN PENNY BACK - then showed dad my statements and said TOLD YOU SO.

Truth be told and in full honesty, IT WAS BECAUSE OF 9/11 THAT I WAS ABLE TO DIG MYSELF OUT OF THAT HOLE !!!
Everything went to ZERO PERCENT balance transfer promos.
I had TWENTY SIX credit cards. All I had to do is transfer every balance to another card's ZERO PERCENT promo.
Then transfer again 6, 9, 12 months later.
NEVER late on ANY payments. I was able to keep transfering for ZERO PERCENT until that entire mountain was paid off.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by xperceniol_sal

no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Sat, 04 Apr 2026 00:01:01 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 20:14...this computer's been with me for so long that it's hard to just let go...

I feel the same about my computer, but I refuse to throw money at it (I couldn't afford to anyway) and when it goes (giving me lots of trouble) I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

Good you got it working again, though.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by Possum98

no_email@example.com (Possum98) — Sun, 05 Apr 2026 13:17:22 +0000

happy easter to all who celebrate today and if not hope you have a good day

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sun, 05 Apr 2026 14:51:03 +0000

It's just like the rest of 364 days for me.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 16:37:10 +0000

Here comes the crap with the bank again. They're cancelling the old app. So I figured it might be the time activate the new one on the new phone. They send me the codes and of course it doesn't go through, app telling me they're wrong.

Then the morons write to me to delete the app and call them to get new codes. As if deleting the app ever solved anything.

General Chat :: Then dust yourself off and try again :: Reply by UCyborg

no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:25:55 +0000

Pretty sure I saw some posts here that aren't there anymore. I hope it's not another case of censorship. Feels like no matter where you go, there is censorship.

Ended up activating the bank app on a stock Samsung tablet, it doesn't like modifications on my phone. Modding has really become a hurdle. Now the thing even lies about the cause and makes you think you put in wrong codes.

Oppression...starts the day you come out of the womb. You could win the lottery and still be a slave. That's the only obvious conclusion I have come to about the state of things.

I just realized today that I tripped again yesterday on clunkiness of merging code in SVN (Subversion) with TortoiseSVN. If you have conflicts, you must not miss that damn Continue merging button. If that was the problem, at least it was previous time it happened. If you don't, some changes just won't be there. And no warning or anything before commiting. It even makes you think it was done since it composes the message that the particular commit was included.

You cannot just miss things with Tortoise(Git). If only it could be taught to update svn:mergeinfo property on SVN properly. But it's broken for some cases, so can't use Git for merges directly. Maybe by doing merge with Git and copying files over to the repo folder checked out with SVN, but then you're back at the clunkiness. Bleh, why is SVN still a thing? Considering I'm one of the few normal people at that rotten company, it doesn't look like it's going anywhere until old generations die out. But considering the way younger generations today are...

On normal, so OK, one internal tool is screwed up and doesn't put out nicely formatted files. Is it so hard to make few clicks before commiting instead of committing the unreadable mess?

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no_email@example.com (Duke) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 08:52:10 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑17 Apr 2026, 07:25 Pretty sure I saw some posts here that aren't there anymore. I hope it's not another case of censorship. Feels like no matter where you go, there is censorship.

xperceniol_sal has deleted several of his own posts for some reason.
IMO users shouldn't be able to edit/delete their posts after 24 hours to avoid butchering threads like it just happened

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 12:31:16 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑17 Apr 2026, 07:25 You could win the lottery and still be a slave.

I knew a lottery winner in the late 90s.
Family of 3. Single mom plus two kids.
A welfare family, mom would never "elevate her status" because she did not want to lose her food stamps!

I never knew the story about their dad other than they all called him a "deadbeat".
Mom won *MILLIONS* (plural!) and split it equally with her two kids.
I worked with both of the kids, one was older than me and the other was younger than me.
Oldest [living on his own] was 22/23 at the time, youngest [still living with mom] (my girlfriend's best friend) was 18/19 at the time.

First thing the oldest did was buy a "monster truck", a huge gigantic truck with tires as high as my stomach.
Both him and his sister continued working and I worked with them both for another six months or so.
They did finally leave their job, but only on account of TERRIBLE work ethics and both were FIRED.

They kept up with many of us throughout the years.
Always throwing big parties for those that were friends before they 'hit it big'.
So I literally watched them live from "rags to riches", as the saying goes.

*MILLIONS* !!! PLURAL !!!

BOTH of the two kids were BANKRUPT within a DECADE-AND-A-HALF !!!
BOTH of the two kids were HOMELESS, cars repossessed, and living on food stamps by the Covid Years.

Point is, if you don't know how to handle money before winning the lottery, you don't learn to handle money just because you win the lottery.
Sometimes in life, like it or not, a "loser is a loser", regardless of "winning" the lottery.

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 11:43:59 +0000

Duke wrote: ↑17 Apr 2026, 08:52
UCyborg wrote: ↑17 Apr 2026, 07:25 Pretty sure I saw some posts here that aren't there anymore. I hope it's not another case of censorship. Feels like no matter where you go, there is censorship.
xperceniol_sal has deleted several of his own posts for some reason.
IMO users shouldn't be able to edit/delete their posts after 24 hours to avoid butchering threads like it just happened

That may be true in THIS CASE.
But I know for a FACT that "OT" discussions [that likely go against admin "politics" (my opinion, no proof)] have been deleted.
I myself had a 2hr research-session involving crime rates and political voting patterns of large population cities DELETED.
Deleted instead of moved. Yeah, that's a case of censorchip. But it "is what it is". It was "OT".

"Is what it is." "Id quod est." "Sic est."

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no_email@example.com (xperceniol_sal) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 17:51:34 +0000

I'm sorry if I caused any confusion. I just simply deleted only 3 postings because they were too fucking depressing and I decided not to drag others down. I just haven't been doing well. I might take a break from all forums for months to recover. Thank you for understanding.

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no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 20:34:51 +0000

^I don't think they were, maybe for happy go-lucky type of people, which is the luxury that isn't applicable in my case.

Jackpot, that'd be something. How do you just run out of money with those sums?

Not that I'll ever have to worry about that, I'm nothing (not even human) and have (almost) nothing. But what if...

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no_email@example.com (The-10-Pen) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 21:10:55 +0000

UCyborg wrote: ↑17 Apr 2026, 20:34 Jackpot, that'd be something. How do you just run out of money with those sums?

Happens to EVERY walk of life.
If you don't know how to handle money, you won't miraculously learn just by getting money.
Whether we all like it or not, where you are in life at age 25 to 28 or so pretty much DEFINES your ENTIRE existence.

I like to think that "rehab" works. But my cousin is a probation officer. It does NOT work WAY more often than it does work.

If you don't know how to manage debt (and savings) at a young age, you won't know how to manage it later in life.
Sad, I suppose. But generally true.

Exceptions to every rule, of course.

But h#ll yeah, millionaires go bankrupt all the time.
MC Hammer
Mike Tyson
Michael Jackson
Toni Braxton
Kim Basinger
Cyndi Lauper
Burt Reynolds
Gary Coleman

If you don't know how to handle money, the simple notion of "having" money does not change that.

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no_email@example.com (UCyborg) — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 22:27:56 +0000

The-10-Pen wrote: ↑17 Apr 2026, 21:10 Whether we all like it or not, where you are in life at age 25 to 28 or so pretty much DEFINES your ENTIRE existence.

I feel that.

Just the money thing is a bit of alien in my context considering I'm not much of a spender. Though I'm aware of the phenomenon how some hit it big then spend every last cent.