My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11

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My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11

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windows 11 comes from the same guys of 9-11....
a controlled demolition of privacy.

Stay away of 11/10 and have fun with older OS.

If you are forced to use 11 for any reason ... just use a single computer for that task... but do not use it as daily driver

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My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11

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I like xp, vista, 7
8 is a kinda start of spying and telemetry, first os with microsoft trash tho
10/11 is a spying shit which also bloats ur pc with they shit, and now they want to control u...
Windows Vista isnt that bad, sp2 fixed all rtm issues.

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@kast: Windows XP had lots of spying as well. That activation process was also quite invasive, requiring an internet connection or the activation by phone. And if too many hardwares components got swapped, uh, must be a new computer! Activate again!

Check the network traffic on a standard Windows XP install, such a chatty little nasty piece of ...

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My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11

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You can decode all the activation requests and responses, and there's no personal info in it. Also, most of XP's network traffic is either looking for local network services, or looking for updates from servers that have long gone.
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teknixstuff wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 06:57 there's no personal info in it
Bird wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 05:53 Windows XP had lots of spying as well.
Win10 *CAN* be made bloat-free!
It's just that today's "userbase" doesn't feel like they should spend the time.
It definitely gets harder and harder with each new release of Win10 and then Win11 on top of that.
I personally use a *2016* version of Win10.

The "userbase" just forgets (over, and over, and over again), then forgets again (over, and over, and over again) that it took them TWENTY YEARS to get XP to "where they like it". Okay, maybe not twenty years. But it took a LONG TIME to get XP to where we think of XP. We (the userbase) kept tinkering and tinkering and tinkering until all of us were "happy" with XP.

How many people running XP don't at least run XP-AntiSpy?

But to be honest, while some of us do tinker and tweak, I personally feel that most of us just like to biatch and whine and complain.
ie, complain about telemetry and privacy rights when it comes to Microsoft, but turn a blind eye to their social media platforms violating every privacy right in every country but hide behind legal loopholes on all of the "data" they collect.

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The-10-Pen wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 09:15...but turn a blind eye to their social media platforms violating every privacy right in every country but hide behind legal loopholes on all of the "data" they collect...
I agree which is why I avoid all social media now.
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The-10-Pen wrote: 08 Jun 2025, 09:15...How many people running XP don't at least run XP-AntiSpy?...
I do use that along with safe xp.

https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/safe_xp.html
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My theory as to why Microsoft is attempting to force TPM 2.0 as a requirement for Windows 11

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Never heard of XP-AntiSpy or Safe XP.

When it comes to Windows 11, I'm more curious what they were changing in its DirectMusic implementation after all these years. It broke some music playback in Drakan: Order of the Flame, something about the (mis)handling of empty RIFF chunks.

And what happened to implementation of Win9x heap manager that functioned well since WinXP days (living as compatibility shim EmulateHeap for buggy apps with certain kind of memory management bugs).

If I center window on one screen, send it to other screen, why window manager no longer sets its relative position like it was on previous screen? Intentional or not?

What about old builds of Half-Life cause DWM to constantly hog one CPU core?

I also found an odd temporary way to prevent screen off and eventually sleep to kick. Set taskbar to auto hide, click the desktop. Desktop is set to now show icons and background changes periodically. Though this is on Win11 23H2 with ExplorerPatcher etc.

I imagine with all possible combinations of hardware and 3rd party software, actually supporting Windows must be a nightmare.

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